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radiantfire said: Vegard_Aune said: Oh yes, how DARE they cut off a 2 minutes and 10 seconds long tune after 2 minutes and 10 seconds?! And really? You're complaining about them "replacing" the music in a scene that DIDN'T EXIST IN THE ORIGINAL CONTINUITY? I think you're being pretty immature. To each his or her own. The user you quoted was merely expressing his or her dislike with the music change. There's nothing wrong with that. Well, here's the thing; The only "music change" he mentioned was the Unit 03-scene. The other two scenes were in fact completely new, so they couldn't have changed the music in the first place. And they DID play The Beast II in its entirety, (or, techincally the Rebuild-version is called Sin From Genesis, but whatever) so it doesn't really make sense to claim that they just cut it off. Besides, if it were to keep playing over the entire Third Impact-sequence, it would have to play uninterrupted for 7 minutes. It just wouldn't work. |
| SPOILER AHEAD! (original series and rebuild) Just watched. What I have to say? |
MeadosJun 8, 2010 2:20 PM
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Meados said: SPOILER AHEAD! (original series and rebuild) Just watched. What I have to say? Uh where you even watching the movie? This isn't just an update we don't people get this at all? This is a re-imagining it's not suppose to be like the original, If you want it to be like the original watch the original. |
JigeroJun 8, 2010 4:17 PM
| It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die. |
| "Uh where you even watching the movie? This isn't just an update we don't people get this at all? " I got that. That surely don't forbid me to give my opinion and make comparisons. |
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| im a fan of the original Evangelion but i like the new Rebuild Movies more and i think this is not just a re-imaginig but also a sequel just observed the words of kawaru his phrase like "third impact AGAIN?" and "THIS TIME ill make you truly happy shinji" the Rebuild Movies are more awesome to me its streamlined version of the series with new twists and its easy to follow even to those who havent seen the old Eva tv series and End of Evangelion movies thats my opinion also whats great above this Rebuild movies is i think you can view it as a re-imaging a standalone experience to the Eva world or can viewed as sequel for people to be curious to watch the TV series and End of Evangelion movie |
| Possibly the best movie ever, thought it was going to just be a rehash of the anime but I was pleasantly surprised. |
radiantfire said: Remember that philosophy is subjective, both in explicating one's ideas and in interpreting another's. You are right. |
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| I'm a huge fan of the original and I love Eva 2.22. Some people are just too picky. See, the old series isn't going to vanish, if you want the old stuff you have it. The visuals have held up incredibly well in the original and it still feels a lot darker. The new series is a re-imagining as said, if you want the same thing again, you're just being silly. What 2.22 gave fans is more intense fights, Asuka, an interesting new story, or even take on the story and a whole new character. The old characters have been given more likable personalities such as Shinji fighting instead of crying (Still, whether hes sad or angry, he'll destroy the world). I can't complain, nostalgia is an enemy and if you're affected by it then its hard to take opinions seriously. |
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Psychodrake said: I'm a huge fan of the original and I love Eva 2.22. Some people are just too picky. See, the old series isn't going to vanish, if you want the old stuff you have it. The visuals have held up incredibly well in the original and it still feels a lot darker. The new series is a re-imagining as said, if you want the same thing again, you're just being silly. What 2.22 gave fans is more intense fights, Asuka, an interesting new story, or even take on the story and a whole new character. The old characters have been given more likable personalities such as Shinji fighting instead of crying (Still, whether hes sad or angry, he'll destroy the world). I can't complain, nostalgia is an enemy and if you're affected by it then its hard to take opinions seriously. Or the original could be better, doesn't require nostalgia to feel that way |
martin03345 said: Psychodrake said: I'm a huge fan of the original and I love Eva 2.22. Some people are just too picky. See, the old series isn't going to vanish, if you want the old stuff you have it. The visuals have held up incredibly well in the original and it still feels a lot darker. The new series is a re-imagining as said, if you want the same thing again, you're just being silly. What 2.22 gave fans is more intense fights, Asuka, an interesting new story, or even take on the story and a whole new character. The old characters have been given more likable personalities such as Shinji fighting instead of crying (Still, whether hes sad or angry, he'll destroy the world). I can't complain, nostalgia is an enemy and if you're affected by it then its hard to take opinions seriously. Or the original could be better, doesn't require nostalgia to feel that way Who is to say what is better? The ratings on MAL tell me that 2.22 is better, yet my own consciousness tells me that the original is better. This argument is fairly void. |
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Psychodrake said: martin03345 said: Psychodrake said: I'm a huge fan of the original and I love Eva 2.22. Some people are just too picky. See, the old series isn't going to vanish, if you want the old stuff you have it. The visuals have held up incredibly well in the original and it still feels a lot darker. The new series is a re-imagining as said, if you want the same thing again, you're just being silly. What 2.22 gave fans is more intense fights, Asuka, an interesting new story, or even take on the story and a whole new character. The old characters have been given more likable personalities such as Shinji fighting instead of crying (Still, whether hes sad or angry, he'll destroy the world). I can't complain, nostalgia is an enemy and if you're affected by it then its hard to take opinions seriously. Or the original could be better, doesn't require nostalgia to feel that way Who is to say what is better? The ratings on MAL tell me that 2.22 is better, yet my own consciousness tells me that the original is better. This argument is fairly void. You are implying that anyone who thought this movie is either bad or not as good as the series would be basing it simply on nostalgia. That is a completely false statement. And if I read that statement wrong, then that's my bad but the rest after this I stand by And not this whole who can say what is better, opinions are opinions argument again. I swear it appears on this site like the bubonic plague. If this would always be the case then there would be no point in having discussions on the anime in question. If someone can say why they either liked, disliked or thought the anime was mediocre and use actual thoughts and ideas to convey that sentiment, then the opinion has more standing and is worth more than what most posters here do which is the utterly stupid, "Epic" or "Epic movie is epic" or "Crap" And no one here should take the MAL ratings seriously, especially seeing as some shows get trolled |
martin03345Jun 9, 2010 11:31 AM
martin03345 said: Psychodrake said: martin03345 said: Psychodrake said: I'm a huge fan of the original and I love Eva 2.22. Some people are just too picky. See, the old series isn't going to vanish, if you want the old stuff you have it. The visuals have held up incredibly well in the original and it still feels a lot darker. The new series is a re-imagining as said, if you want the same thing again, you're just being silly. What 2.22 gave fans is more intense fights, Asuka, an interesting new story, or even take on the story and a whole new character. The old characters have been given more likable personalities such as Shinji fighting instead of crying (Still, whether hes sad or angry, he'll destroy the world). I can't complain, nostalgia is an enemy and if you're affected by it then its hard to take opinions seriously. Or the original could be better, doesn't require nostalgia to feel that way Who is to say what is better? The ratings on MAL tell me that 2.22 is better, yet my own consciousness tells me that the original is better. This argument is fairly void. You are implying that anyone who thought this movie is either bad or not as good as the series would be basing it simply on nostalgia. That is a completely false statement. And if I read that statement wrong, then that's my bad but the rest after this I stand by And not this whole who can say what is better, opinions are opinions argument again. I swear it appears on this site like the bubonic plague. If this would always be the case then there would be no point in having discussions on the anime in question. If someone can say why they either liked, disliked or thought the anime was mediocre and use actual thoughts and ideas to convey that sentiment, then the opinion has more standing and is worth more than what most posters here do which is the utterly stupid, "Epic" or "Epic movie is epic" or "Crap" And no one here should take the MAL ratings seriously, especially seeing as some shows get trolled I'm not trying to imply that people who find the original better are all being nostalgic, I even pretty much said I prefer the original series. It may have come off like that at first, but the point I was trying to make is that people who think 2.22 should be exactly like the original are being nostalgic. I've never taken MAL ratings seriously. Again you have misinterpreted my post in which I'm actually saying the ratings mean nothing. I can understand the confusion because of my choice of wording but I can't disagree with you for the most part because you're pretty much telling me what I'm trying to say. Of course opinions are opinions, of course we can argue and converse about it here. We couldn't do that if it weren't for opinions. Opinions partly made the top 10. You can't deny this really. |
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Lab-Member-000Jun 9, 2010 6:51 PM
Psychodrake said: martin03345 said: Psychodrake said: martin03345 said: Psychodrake said: I'm a huge fan of the original and I love Eva 2.22. Some people are just too picky. See, the old series isn't going to vanish, if you want the old stuff you have it. The visuals have held up incredibly well in the original and it still feels a lot darker. The new series is a re-imagining as said, if you want the same thing again, you're just being silly. What 2.22 gave fans is more intense fights, Asuka, an interesting new story, or even take on the story and a whole new character. The old characters have been given more likable personalities such as Shinji fighting instead of crying (Still, whether hes sad or angry, he'll destroy the world). I can't complain, nostalgia is an enemy and if you're affected by it then its hard to take opinions seriously. Or the original could be better, doesn't require nostalgia to feel that way Who is to say what is better? The ratings on MAL tell me that 2.22 is better, yet my own consciousness tells me that the original is better. This argument is fairly void. You are implying that anyone who thought this movie is either bad or not as good as the series would be basing it simply on nostalgia. That is a completely false statement. And if I read that statement wrong, then that's my bad but the rest after this I stand by And not this whole who can say what is better, opinions are opinions argument again. I swear it appears on this site like the bubonic plague. If this would always be the case then there would be no point in having discussions on the anime in question. If someone can say why they either liked, disliked or thought the anime was mediocre and use actual thoughts and ideas to convey that sentiment, then the opinion has more standing and is worth more than what most posters here do which is the utterly stupid, "Epic" or "Epic movie is epic" or "Crap" And no one here should take the MAL ratings seriously, especially seeing as some shows get trolled I'm not trying to imply that people who find the original better are all being nostalgic, I even pretty much said I prefer the original series. It may have come off like that at first, but the point I was trying to make is that people who think 2.22 should be exactly like the original are being nostalgic. I've never taken MAL ratings seriously. Again you have misinterpreted my post in which I'm actually saying the ratings mean nothing. I can understand the confusion because of my choice of wording but I can't disagree with you for the most part because you're pretty much telling me what I'm trying to say. Of course opinions are opinions, of course we can argue and converse about it here. We couldn't do that if it weren't for opinions. Opinions partly made the top 10. You can't deny this really. Well if what I said is what you intended but you couldn't say it in a more comprehensible manner, should I be your voice then LOL. I kid but well, at least we're on the same page. I do agree with you on the whole rehashing of the show here would be idiotic but I still see this re-envisioning/sequel/whatever you want to call it as a cash in by Anno who I still say is the George Lucas of anime |
| I have to say that I was very pleased with this movie. The first was sort of meh due to re-used footage but this one was yay because it's 99% new as well as the ok pacing of the new-ish storyline. I thought Asuka was out for good. From the preview, it seems like she'll be back in pirate form. |
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StudioJC said: The first was sort of meh due to re-used footage... Actually, the first movie was 100% new animation as well. Yes, it was clearly based off the old storyboards, meaning that several shots looked more or less the same as their TV-series equivalents, but none of the footage was actually recycled from the TV-series. |
| Sum jerbs were tooked. |
| OH MY GOD. THAT WAS FUCKING AMAZING! i think this remake was fantastic. i loved the tv series, but this one was on another level. it was definitely better than the first previeous one imo. i liked how the reinvented the characters somehow, especcially with Asuka and Ayanami. i mean, they were not the stereotypical characters from 10 years ago, and somehow, with this remake, they matured a little bit too: Rei was more human like (something i've only seen in doujinshin XD), and Asuka was less tsundere-ish and stubborn than her old self from the tv series. if they'd kept this rhythm with the series, i bet it'd have turned into a harem anime sooner or later XD. oh yeah, the new character Marii also deserve some mention. mmmh, it's too soon to judge her character imao. we need more background information about her. in the meanwhile, one word: SADOMASOCHIST :D and again, they changed some angels' design. i don't mind, actually. the new angels were cool. the most memorable fighting was surely the last one. it was sooooo GURRENLAGANN-ish. the "new" Shinji is welcome. i've always hated his complexes in the series >_> it's sad i gotta wait another year to see the next one. T_T 11/10 |
| Incredible Movie. The action amazing, and I love the characters even more now! Mari Illustrious Makinami is just awesome as well, love her character, shes pretty crazy in an EVA XD. The new angel designs were more intense, as well as the fights, loved that. The main characters seemed to be more.. close to each other. Mood is more lightening and that just made me happy =D 10+/10 |
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| Just watched it and loved it. I LOVE the re-telling of this and can't wait for the next one. But man, world is ending? But the preview says otherwise. All I know is some serious shit is gonna go down! I also really like how the characters' personalities have been tweaked to make them more likeable, Shinji is more heroic, Rei more human and Asuka less of a bitch. All welcome changes in my books. I'm curious how the next movie is going to portray Kaworu, it seems that in 3.0 is when he is going to have a bigger more important role. All I gotta do now is wait for the greatness to come. x3 |
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| Holy shitdamn, this was fucking awesome. 10/10 without a doubt. |
| Just finished watching it. Awesome movie. 9/10 for me |
| Gainax made a awesome work in this movie! Liked a lot (i hope in the future they give this animation qualify for gurren lagann too) |
| That was simply masterpiece. It's just an alternative story, something like another cycle. Aa... just 1000/10 :) |
| OMG THAT WAS SO AWESOME :O <3 <3 <3 |
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Dj_bereta said: Gainax made a awesome work in this movie! Liked a lot (i hope in the future they give this animation qualify for gurren lagann too) Studio Khara handled the entire production, including the animation. Gainax were barely involved. |
| I liked it a lot but I think this film ruins Asuka, that and the story changes are starting to make me sad. It's nice to make it a bit less dark but I think that darkness is what made the story flow the way it did. I really miss the scene where Shinji thought about kissing Asuka, the way they reinserted that made me ill. I miss her old personality and her flaws, I just don't feel them in this one at all. But oh well its nice to see some freedom with the story but its hit and miss. ----------------------------- Upon re-watching this again, the new story changes were actually a lot of fun. Some of the character elements still bother me but then again I could be acting like a bitch about this. |
JumblyNutsJun 20, 2010 2:44 AM
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| This was the most amazing anime movie I've ever seen, it blew my mind away. From the characters, to the quality of the animation and the soundtrack, to the over the top action, it was all perfect. I don't know if I like this new aproach to the story better than the original Evangelion (for instance: the scene where Eva 01 goes berserk on Eva 03 felt a little more disturbing in the series, but in the movie it is superb nevertheless, in a different way), I just know that if I ignore the original events, this new direction is simply out of this world and totally worth the revamp. For me the greatest improvements so far are the work they have done with Shinji and Rei (and I never cared much about Asuka and her personality, in fact I like her better in this movie), it's really developing into something beautiful, and then the work they have done with the angels, truly otherwordly and mystical entities that really make you feel it's an impossible struggle. I really liked the way they ignored the angel in the magma and brought us a much more fearsome and unique beast of a 10th angel. In short, I'm not saying it's better or worse than the original Evangelion, just that it's too good, whether you compare it to the TV series or not. |
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| OMG... I have no words... It's just fucking amazing! 2 hours of perfect animation and beautiful sound in BD quality blew my mind away. Also second rebuild had some surprises for me. Asuka. Yay, tsundere as always ^^. My favorite character in TV, and now I like her in rebuild too) But I expected more interactions with Shinji, because I like this couple~ BTW I had a strong nosebleed when she was in test suit <3 Mari. Wow... Really didn't expect that meganekko will be so badass. Beast mode is very nice. I don't compare original TV and rebuild. 11/10 for me. And waiting for Asuka in Quickening ^^ |
StudioJC said: I have to say that I was very pleased with this movie. The first was sort of meh due to re-used footage but this one was yay because it's 99% new as well as the ok pacing of the new-ish storyline. I thought Asuka was out for good. From the preview, it seems like she'll be back in pirate form. If they killed Asuka, I would seriously lose my shit. I thought that too when that happened to her I was like FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU. I raged for a little while after and then ate some cupcakes to subside the pain. |
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| just something i noticed. the guy at the end in the 4th eva. i forgot his name because i haven't seen the original series in forever. he said "THIS TIME i will make you happy". THIS TIME!!!!!! is this referring back to the original series??? i think it is. the next movie is going to be awesome. cant wait!!!!!!! |
KazukiUchiha said: just something i noticed. the guy at the end in the 4th eva. i forgot his name because i haven't seen the original series in forever. he said "THIS TIME i will make you happy". THIS TIME!!!!!! is this referring back to the original series??? i think it is. the next movie is going to be awesome. cant wait!!!!!!! Well... this occurred to me, sure this is a different story with some basis on the series, however, could it be that it's still in the same universe, but in a different timeline/dimension? I mean the kid angel could have some sort of power that allows him to manipulate space/time. |
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| It was a great remake of the TV series (although that is still better), and the ending was brilliant, but it still felt rushed. There is little character development in this, especially between Shinji and Asuka. And while I could be wrong here, but im sure that at this point in the TV series, we're 3/4 of the way through. And theres still two movies left! Overall: Very good but some people give me the impression that the spectacular ending leaves them with the same reflection on the whole movie, so you could call it over-rated up until the end, as the ending is the only thing that the movie improves on thoroughly than the series. *awaits flame :/* |
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| I've watched it for the 4th time tongiht, and it's till as awesome as the first time I saw it one year ago. I'm extremely impressed by this movie. |
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| I really hope you're joking saikou. Shiro Sagisu did the music of the original TV series and End of Evangelion. Of course he'd be doing the music in the Rebuild movies. |
saikou said: I love it!!.... ...BUT who messed up with Shiro Sagisu?!?!?! I was having that AWFUL BLEACH feeling with some of the music...THE NEW ONES! Specially the one with the kids (who change his mind to create something like that!?!? Give him baaack T-T hahaha) and the ones for the fights...it was...too Bleach...But I know there would be many that would like it, but in my individual case...GIVE HIM BACK! It was a 5 stars and because of that it wasn't perfect score for me T-T bau. ahhaha (You can realize I'm a BIG Shiro Sagisu fan...je!) Yeah Shiro Sagisu did do the music for the movie, don't really know what you mean. All they did was remake all of the old songs and add some new ones. I think the use of music was perfect considering the pacing, gives off the same vibes as Komme Susser Todd. |
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| Anyone take notice to the song at the end? Somehow, it sounds a loooot like a certain song from K-ON!................"Tsubasa Wo Kudasai" anyone? |
| Well, the Eva 2nd movie's ratings have given me hope that it will be made with more ideas than just a compilation of several pieces from different episodes with a little bit of novelty in its plot, but what I saw had washed my hope away. Maybe there are some knew plot branches, but: 1) There is no "old" atmosphere. All that was epic became bombastic, and fights are too fast. 2) Rushed type of storytelling. It seems that there are many clipped scenes and the author wanted to insert as mush as possible in this work. 3) The new art style looks good, but modern "soft" picture can't give the feeling of rough, sharp surfaces or colossal buildings. All seems kinda toy, even Evas are like f*cking Transformers or smth. |
| So your qualm with the first movie was that it was just a compilation movie for the most part, and it you wanted it to be different. Your qualm with the second movie was that it was too different from the original series and lost the old atmosphere, due partly to the new art style and rushed (and NEW!) storytelling. I must say. You are insatiable. |
kyragnar said: Anyone take notice to the song at the end? Somehow, it sounds a loooot like a certain song from K-ON!................"Tsubasa Wo Kudasai" anyone? That song isn't from K-On. It's a Japanese folk's song from the 70s, and it just so happens that both Anno and KyoAni decided to use it in their anime. Incidentally, this is also the case with the other insert song they used when Unit 01 destroyed Unit 03. |
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