| Texas Senate Bill 20, also known as the Texas Anime Ban, will be going into effect tomorrow, September 1. The bill will ban almost every anime and manga, from battle shonen such as Naruto and Bleach, to BL and GL, to anything with LGBT characters, to GB such as Onimai and Ranma, and to all ecchi and hentai. Bills similar to this may be coming in other states in the future. Any state could be next. What do you recommend that anime fans in Texas and similar places do in response to these bans? I would recommend every anime fan in Texas get a VPN to start. |
ForgotEyeWasHereYesterday, 5:03 PM
| Excuse my lack of knowledge in American politics, but why does this guy want to do that? |
"Nobody could laugh at someone who's trying their hardest" -Machio- |
| australia and some other shitholes did the same thing, sometimes I wonder whether it's virtue signalling or if these people are so insane they believe a drawing on paper is actually a child being victimized you should always be using a VPN anyway |
On the bright side, I doubt they will enforce it for anything fictional, but I could be wrong. You never really know in current year. I heard someonein europe got arrested for lewd art of anime girls. |
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On the bright side, I doubt they will enforce it for anything fictional, but I could be wrong. You never really know in current year. I heard someonein europe got arrested for lewd art of anime girls.
| @rohan121 They will definitely enforce it for fictional stuff. The language in the bill was left intentionally vague so they could arrest as many people as possible, including for fictional content. |
| Just because the wording in legislation could be extended to something, doesn't mean that it will be enforced to such an extent. It's still concerning that this was written in such a way, but until we see something actually happen, I'd stop short of telling every anime fan to leave the state of Texas. |
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On the bright side, I doubt they will enforce it for anything fictional, but I could be wrong. You never really know in current year. I heard someonein europe got arrested for lewd art of anime girls.
| @rohan121 The police don't have to enforce it themselves. Companies, businessmen, people in power, etc will enforce it all on their own. https://x.com/jastusa/status/1961855148655042739 |
| @ComeInReiAsuka It is indeed Christian nationalist politicians that are pushing this ban in another attempt to force their religion on everyone. Many culture warrior tourists like Rev Says Desu and his wife Strawb are supporting this Texas Anime Ban, and using their religion and political affiliation as justification for it. And yes, they are Christians. Mod Edit: Removed quote of deleted post. |
CCYesterday, 6:39 PM
| Just another reason to never go to Texas if indeed true. Not that I needed another reason. Next time there's talk about the state wanting to secede, I say let them go. They can take the sweaty floppy wiener that is Florida with them. The country gets to keep Disney World in the divorce though. |
FanofActionYesterday, 6:36 PM
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 Another hero? Oh, please! You're a god-damn philistine. |
| The bill is HIGHLY concerning, but to my knowledge it is not a ban? Let's wait to see if something ever gets brought to court. If so, we do have older cases that SHOULD rule in favor of someone being caught with something one could interpret as ban worthy that they should be fine. |
ForgotEyeWasHere said: It is indeed Christian nationalist politicians that are pushing this ban in another attempt to force their religion on everyone. Many culture warrior tourists like Rev Says Desu and his wife Strawb are supporting this Texas Anime Ban, and using their religion and political affiliation as justification for it. And yes, they are Christians. But when I looked at the vid saying he supported it he did not think it could be applied to anime saying he thinks it is just for AI generated images that use data of actual minors because it extends on another law. This is questionable though because the phrasing does say drawings not simply digital renderings so it depends how the law is interpreted. |
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| This is misinformation. Anime is not being banned in Texas. The law is aimed at real depictions of children, not fictional works. The law is written vaguely enough that some theorize that it could potentially be used to target anime but there is no indication or reason to believe that it will be. |
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ForgotEyeWasHere said:
It is indeed Christian nationalist politicians that are pushing this ban in another attempt to force their religion on everyone. Many culture warrior tourists like Rev Says Desu and his wife Strawb are supporting this Texas Anime Ban, and using their religion and political affiliation as justification for it. And yes, they are Christians.
It is indeed Christian nationalist politicians that are pushing this ban in another attempt to force their religion on everyone. Many culture warrior tourists like Rev Says Desu and his wife Strawb are supporting this Texas Anime Ban, and using their religion and political affiliation as justification for it. And yes, they are Christians.
But when I looked at the vid saying he supported it he did not think it could be applied to anime saying he thinks it is just for AI generated images that use data of actual minors because it extends on another law. This is questionable though because the phrasing does say drawings not simply digital renderings so it depends how the law is interpreted.
| @traed The way it is worded, it absolutely could be applied to anime. Rev Says Desu defended this law because his party is in office, and they're the ones who made this law. This bill will definitely ban anime, and Rev is supportive of it. He intentionally left out several details regarding this. So yes, Rev not only downplayed the Texas Anime Ban, but also praised and defended it. Rev Says Desu has proven himself to be a grifter and a culture warrior tourist who only opposes censorship when it's convenient for his political side. His channel doesn't even talk about anime anymore, just politics. Most of his recent videos are just him complaining about Hasan Piker. |
ForgotEyeWasHereYesterday, 7:41 PM
| I'm pretty sure the bill doesn't actually 'ban' those anime but just provides a very vague framework under which those anime could potentially be banned. |
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@FanofAction This is ironic considering a huge portion of licensed anime is done IN Texas.
| @the1gairon Not anymore if there actually is some sort of ban. |
| Futile ban, it doesn't seem sufficiently enforceable, I would simply ignore it if I lived there. |
deg said: im not sure left wing leaders will ban things this bad Horseshoe theory says extremists on either side end up meeting, doing the same insane things for different reasons. I wish there was a strong moderate/center political party. That would probably be the least insane one. But they'd have to ban all religions, sects and political interest groups (like some NGOs), since those are the breeding grounds/echo chambers that create these insane people and I don't know how to prevent them from creating insane people without outright banning them. If you let the insane people run around they will eventually infiltrate and warp your cool moderate/center party. Also less government would be good. It's not like government has accomplished anything positive this century. On the other hand, they did a bunch of really stupid stuff. Having less of them makes it so they can do less harm. |
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@TransferUser political scientists consensus says horseshoe theory is false and that they believe in fishhook theory instead when it comes to oversimplication of politacal spectrum
not sure a small government is good when megacorporations are becoming more and more powerful as well as dictators with world domination goals are still a big problem globally
not sure a small government is good when megacorporations are becoming more and more powerful as well as dictators with world domination goals are still a big problem globally
| @deg It's not like big government does anything about megacorporations and dictators. In fact, it kinda helps them... https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=fishhook%20theory&title=Special%3ASearch "victory over the powers which hold mankind in bondage: sin, death, and the devil."[4] According to Pugh, "Ever since [Aulén's] time, we call these patristic ideas the Christus Victor way of seeing the cross."[5] It is sometimes known as the fishhook theory I don't get it.But horseshoe theory has held up well over the years. |
| I hate living in the US more and more every day |
Texas Senate Bill 20 (S.B. 20), also known as the "Stopping AI-Generated Child Pornography Act" This is the first time I'm looking into this, and the name of the bill itself already indicates that this law is not really about anime. Calling it an "anime ban" makes even less sense to me. Vague wording is a common problem in all kinds of laws. I think it's a little premature to assume that this is going to be applied and actually enforced to "ban anime"... But any excuse to start screaming we're being persecuted and pick up the pitchforks, I guess. |
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Texas Senate Bill 20 (S.B. 20), also known as the "Stopping AI-Generated Child Pornography Act"
This is the first time I'm looking into this, and the name of the bill itself already indicates that this law is not really about anime. Calling it an "anime ban" makes even less sense to me.
Vague wording is a common problem in all kinds of laws. I think it's a little premature to assume that this is going to be applied and actually enforced to "ban anime"...
But any excuse to start screaming we're being persecuted and pick up the pitchforks, I guess.
| @perseii The Texas bill is going to be used to ban anime. They left it intentionally vague with the wording so they can ban as much stuff as possible, including anime and manga. |
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@perseii The Texas bill is going to be used to ban anime. They left it intentionally vague with the wording so they can ban as much stuff as possible, including anime and manga.
| @ForgotEyeWasHere And what makes you say that? Is there some context? Like, have there been politicians/groups who have stated that they are going to use this bill for that purpose? Has there been some criminal case or legal battle in the past that directly motivated this bill? Or is that an educated guess on your part? Or based on some YouTube commentary? |
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@ForgotEyeWasHere And what makes you say that?
Is there some context? Like, have there been politicians/groups who have stated that they are going to use this bill for that purpose? Has there been some criminal case or legal battle in the past that directly motivated this bill?
Or is that an educated guess on your part? Or based on some YouTube commentary?
Is there some context? Like, have there been politicians/groups who have stated that they are going to use this bill for that purpose? Has there been some criminal case or legal battle in the past that directly motivated this bill?
Or is that an educated guess on your part? Or based on some YouTube commentary?
| @perseii I think he's trying to say that anime and manga has a child porn problem. |
| Anything but catching actual predators and deviants. |
| "Chimp in state of nature never jerks off, but in captivity he does, wat does this mean? In state of nature he’s too busy, to put plainly. He is concerned with mastering space: solving problem of life in and under trees, mastering what tools he can, mastering social relations in the jockeying for power and status. Deprived of this drive to development and self-increase he devolves to pointless masturbation, in captivity, where he senses he is in owned space and therefore the futility of all his efforts and all his actions." |
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