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Guys I have a question in my mind bothering from many years.
Why the animation of ds is toooo good?? I just saw that episode cost of Jjk is 150k dollar. Ds costs 80k dollar. Then why ds looks 100 times better than Jjk??
Why ufotable animation is better than every studio even 10 years back( fate series)
Don't know how they are doing it .
Why can't every studio make like this??
Animation of some scenes are of movie level.
Is there any series with better animation than ds???
What is actually a good animation?? Is it detailing or just good visual looks???
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Aug 15, 10:18 PM
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Pretty sure ufotable takes their time with production, whereas other studios try to churn out seasonal anime. Correct me if I'm wrong tho.
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I think people put far too much focus on animation, they even diss anime that are actually good because they don’t have perfect animation.

I prefer a well written story and dialogue over perfect animation any day.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Aug 15, 10:26 PM
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Cuz of great pre planning and they take longer time to animate it for frame works
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Kimetsu really only has this good animation and high quality, because the story is low level...
Aug 15, 10:46 PM
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I can agree it has higher production quality but come on 100 times better than jjk? I can appreciate the consistency but I personally prefer the art style and animation of jjk (in s2 not s1)
Aug 15, 10:55 PM
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you gotta sell it somehow
cause other than the production Demon Slayer has nothing going for it
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Yffffhjuub said:
Why the animation of ds is toooo good??


Because it's not just their animation; what really elevated Ufotable is their Digital team, hiding bad animation and complementing the good animation with plenty of effects and intelligent use of CGI. I highly recommend to watch this video.
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Aug 15, 10:59 PM
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coz ufotable didn't let go unlike madhouse did to attack on titan
Aug 15, 11:10 PM
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OK so the MAIN reason is "COMPOSITING". Imagine it like make-up nd cosmetics. Different layers of special effects r added alongside the Different parts of the scene like bg, key animation, colouring, 3DCG being put together. These additional layers make the scene look better. Ufotable makes real good use of special effects. You won't see crazy animation in most parts like character acting. It's mostly present during the fight scenes and so the most prominent Animators they have are focused on these important fight scenes. Ofc many times u may find some details in key animation not being visible cuz of compositing but it's a small price to pay for amazing looking sequences and the scenes that normally would look average r also hidden nd look better overall. From an objective standpoint, studios like Toei or Madhouse have an upper hand in terms of animation while Ufotable is the best in terms of compositing. It has Animators that can rival other studios but a huge portion of their staff is limited (they also do most stuff in-house)
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Subxxxx1 said:
OK so the MAIN reason is "COMPOSITION". Imagine it like make-up nd cosmetics. Different layers of special effects r added alongside the Different parts of the scene like bg, key animation, colouring, 3DCG being put together. These additional layers make the scene look better. Ufotable makes real good use of special effects. You won't see crazy animation in most parts like character acting. It's mostly present during the fight scenes and so the most prominent Animators they have are focused on these important fight scenes. Ofc many times u may find some details in key animation not being visible cuz of composition but it's a small price to pay for amazing looking sequences and the scenes that normally would look average r also hidden nd look better overall. From an objective standpoint, studios like Toei or Madhouse have an upper hand in terms of animation while Ufotable is the best in terms of composition. It has Animators that can rival other studios but a huge portion of their staff is limited (they also do most stuff in-house)

this ^

it mainly looks good because of the composition.

proper use of special effects and color makes anything look pretty. while clean frames after frames have a part in making it look good but special effects and all the colors play a greater part in making it better.

jjk has more like raw animation, less special effects and more clash. And I think true talent lies in the fact when you make it look good even without any kind of flashy special effects. of course using good special effects is a talent, but if you can make it look good without any superior tactics then you know that animator is special.

DS swordsmith village arc absolutely looked average because there wasn't any proper use of special effects. from this you know the animation was mostly elevated due to special effects in other seasons.
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UFOTABLE departments are arranged in a way so it's easy to work together with all teams so I read.
Aug 15, 11:44 PM
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2 main factors affect production quality of anime and that are talent and time

ufotable have good enough talented animators and staff like nozomu abe and yuichi terao (the guy that do compositing or digital photography of all major ufotable works aka instagram effects)

second is enough prouduction time, no matter how good the animators are if they do not been given enough time to draw things good then all is nothing thats why ufotable and kyoto animation only do 2-3 anime each year while other studios like jc staff and mappa do 6 or more anime shows per year
Aug 15, 11:52 PM
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Yffffhjuub said:
I just saw that episode cost of Jjk is 150k dollar. Ds costs 80k dollar


fake news, anime episodes today cost around 300k or more

also high budgeted episode does not mean high quality episode it can also mean production problems piling up like imagine an episode with few talented staff so they have high chance to do a lot of redraws or retakes because of how bad they draw for example and that will increase production time and production cost since more time means more production resources wasted like electricity and papers, etc a prime example of this is dragon ball super while it was airing it has such a big budget per episode just because of how bad the production is going on
Aug 15, 11:59 PM
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because it's demon slayer..
Aug 16, 12:06 AM
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personally i like jjks animation way more
Aug 16, 12:42 AM
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because ufotable isn't like the other studios who treats their animators like shit and rushes projects
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jjk is made by mappa, and mapping firstly makes their animators work to exhaustion they also take up multiple projects and try.to speed run through it. and it's not just mappa, many do the same. the working system of the animation industry is truly toxic.
but from what I've read about ufotable, they take their time. so they aren't that rushed.
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ReMightyRon said:
Kimetsu really only has this good animation and high quality, because the story is low level...

objectively false
if the story wasn't good then ufotable wouldn't care
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That's not because they give lot of money in production that animation will necessarily be good.

They can use money to
1) Pay voice actors
2) Pay managers / directors
3) Pay music artists / sound effects artists
4) Pay a lot of under qualified animators to produce faster rather than better.
5) Pay overtime (if they do, cuz they rarely do)


Quality of animation is bound to talented animators and time put in the work.
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need567 said:
I can agree it has higher production quality but come on 100 times better than jjk? I can appreciate the consistency but I personally prefer the art style and animation of jjk (in s2 not s1)

S1 has objectively better animation than S2 and even S1 isn't close to KnY's level.
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need567 said:
I can agree it has higher production quality but come on 100 times better than jjk? I can appreciate the consistency but I personally prefer the art style and animation of jjk (in s2 not s1)

JJK s2 had such bad scheduling, they basically released incomplete episodes with missing in between animations, bad composition, cheeky animation shortcuts etc.... The Blu Ray edition had crazy amounts of corrections, redraws, scene replacement... I've never seen any anime with 24 episodes season do this.
Aug 16, 1:58 AM
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DS animation boils down to saturated colours and special effects (from what I've seen in the first season) and can't be compared to amazing art direction and hand to hand combat in jjk. Then again, that's just my opinion.

As for the cost, I think this also explains a lot of that. They don't outsource much, from what I've seen, which drives down cost a lot and reuse tools (most of the backgrounds, especially in fighting scenes, look like very similar 3D components). So many of those scenes are close-ups of the face, of the eyes, the sword, etc. Those are so many seconds of the fight, that is already just wind/fire/some other shit whirling around, spent on a still object with some wind effects around it.
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V1P3R0P said:
need567 said:
I can agree it has higher production quality but come on 100 times better than jjk? I can appreciate the consistency but I personally prefer the art style and animation of jjk (in s2 not s1)

JJK s2 had such bad scheduling, they basically released incomplete episodes with missing in between animations, bad composition, cheeky animation shortcuts etc.... The Blu Ray edition had crazy amounts of corrections, redraws, scene replacement... I've never seen any anime with 24 episodes season do this.

I’m not denying that but I’m sayijg I personalyl proffered the style at least and that it’s not thattttt much better than jjk
Aug 16, 2:33 AM
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ejleon said:
I think people put far too much focus on animation, they even diss anime that are actually good because they don’t have perfect animation.

I prefer a well written story and dialogue over perfect animation any day.

I couldn't agree more!!
Aug 16, 2:40 AM
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'cause Demon Slayer is mostly dark. And when the background is dark (when it's night) you can make a better balance between animation and CGI (Computer Generated Images)
But I don't think Demon Slayer has the best animation. It definitly has the flashiest animation but in my opinion, anime like Lord Of The Mysteries, Oshi No Ko and Roshidere look better.
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coz ufotable didn't let go unlike madhouse did to attack on titan
@keykiii what madhouse left aot?? . It's good decision. Wit was perfect for aot
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Why??? Because why not?!
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I think its because they use more time to make animes + Ufotable doesn't make a lot of animes at the same time. Ex: Mappa has to make new seasons of jjk, chainsaw man, hells paradise(thats all i remember now). Ufotable has only fate and ds now according to google.
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mobxmentality said:
you gotta sell it somehow
cause other than the production Demon Slayer has nothing going for it

It's funny how hard people need to try to hate on demon slayer 😂. Spamming one argument over and over, which isn't even true.
Aug 16, 5:25 AM
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apparently you like the art- and animation style.

personally i can definitely acknowledge that demon slayer animation is great, but i prefer others (jjk season 2 for example)
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Because they only work on one or two major projects at a time and their staff is talented and in house.
They know how to compose stuff and they know how to blend 2D with 3D CGI. They excel in both these categories. Mix it up and you have amazing animation.
If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time.

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Mr_Sai said:
ReMightyRon said:
Kimetsu really only has this good animation and high quality, because the story is low level...

objectively false
if the story wasn't good then ufotable wouldn't care

Are you serious? Demon slayer has good Story?? Nice joke bro
Aug 16, 7:00 AM
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Yffffhjuub said:
Guys I have a question in my mind bothering from many years.
Why the animation of ds is toooo good?? I just saw that episode cost of Jjk is 150k dollar. Ds costs 80k dollar. Then why ds looks 100 times better than Jjk??
Why ufotable animation is better than every studio even 10 years back( fate series)
Don't know how they are doing it .
Why can't every studio make like this??
Animation of some scenes are of movie level.
Is there any series with better animation than ds???
What is actually a good animation?? Is it detailing or just good visual looks???

Honestly i think that both anime’s have totally different focuses regarding animation, you can tell that in JJK they’re trying to keep the animation way more smoothly than DS, where the focus instead goes onto detail and such. I get where you’re coming from when you compare the prices, but in terms of Hype also they’re going to spend more on JJK since it’s more popular.

Extra thought here but maybe they have more people employed at Mappa instead of Ufotable, i’m not gonna go over that since i’m not entirely sure however.
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ejleon said:
I think people put far too much focus on animation, they even diss anime that are actually good because they don’t have perfect animation.

I prefer a well written story and dialogue over perfect animation any day.

True, just looking at the main trio of both series, i think JJK has an all round more detailed one. Demon slayer kinda feels like it was aimed towards people 13-15 of age and jjk already higher
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bro said he likes post-processing

but yeah if you're asking why post-production looks better, thats just a tech and workflow answer.

It's kinda like asking why do video game trailers keep 'looking' better.
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FZREMAKE said:
Because they only work on one or two major projects at a time and their staff is talented and in house.
They know how to compose stuff and they know how to blend 2D with 3D CGI. They excel in both these categories. Mix it up and you have amazing animation.

actually I'd partially disagree, s1 in particular suffers from 2d characters looking like stickers on a 3d background.

Which funnily enough, even though they're touted for their excellent post-production process, is a compositing issue (a post-production process).
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Subxxxx1 said:
OK so the MAIN reason is "COMPOSITION". Imagine it like make-up nd cosmetics. Different layers of special effects r added alongside the Different parts of the scene like bg, key animation, colouring, 3DCG being put together. These additional layers make the scene look better. Ufotable makes real good use of special effects. You won't see crazy animation in most parts like character acting. It's mostly present during the fight scenes and so the most prominent Animators they have are focused on these important fight scenes. Ofc many times u may find some details in key animation not being visible cuz of composition but it's a small price to pay for amazing looking sequences and the scenes that normally would look average r also hidden nd look better overall. From an objective standpoint, studios like Toei or Madhouse have an upper hand in terms of animation while Ufotable is the best in terms of composition. It has Animators that can rival other studios but a huge portion of their staff is limited (they also do most stuff in-house)

I think you're looking for the word compositING. Because in terms of cinematography composition, there's nothing special about DS.

Frieren, for instance, has more interesting composition.
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FiviG said:
Subxxxx1 said:
OK so the MAIN reason is "COMPOSITION". Imagine it like make-up nd cosmetics. Different layers of special effects r added alongside the Different parts of the scene like bg, key animation, colouring, 3DCG being put together. These additional layers make the scene look better. Ufotable makes real good use of special effects. You won't see crazy animation in most parts like character acting. It's mostly present during the fight scenes and so the most prominent Animators they have are focused on these important fight scenes. Ofc many times u may find some details in key animation not being visible cuz of composition but it's a small price to pay for amazing looking sequences and the scenes that normally would look average r also hidden nd look better overall. From an objective standpoint, studios like Toei or Madhouse have an upper hand in terms of animation while Ufotable is the best in terms of composition. It has Animators that can rival other studios but a huge portion of their staff is limited (they also do most stuff in-house)

I think you're looking for the word compositING. Because in terms of cinematography composition, there's nothing special about DS.

Frieren, for instance, has more interesting composition.

Oh shi I didn't see that😭 My keyboard auto correct is on...
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Subxxxx1 said:
FiviG said:

I think you're looking for the word compositING. Because in terms of cinematography composition, there's nothing special about DS.

Frieren, for instance, has more interesting composition.

Oh shi I didn't see that😭 My keyboard auto correct is on...

haha it autocorrected mine too 😁 np np
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more fans, more views, more expectations, more hype, more expected revenue, more budget given.

mugen train for example costed 15/16 million dollars to make but had an explosive revenue 508 million dollars.
They know they have a gold mine and that its ending (like literall, the story is ending), so instead of risking with something average or just good theyre not stupid, they inject a crazy budget into KNY while they can and do not rush it, so they can present a real masterpiece at the end and profit fiftyfold their expenses.
now idk how much infinity castle costed, the internet says "rumors say it costed 350 million" but thats a bit unlikely cause that would make it THE most expensive movie ever even above avengers endgame. but anyways great things are expected
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sry yall, deletus
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why is everyone so obsessed with animation, it doesn't make up for the story or characters being average
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V1P3R0P said:
need567 said:
I can agree it has higher production quality but come on 100 times better than jjk? I can appreciate the consistency but I personally prefer the art style and animation of jjk (in s2 not s1)

JJK s2 had such bad scheduling, they basically released incomplete episodes with missing in between animations, bad composition, cheeky animation shortcuts etc.... The Blu Ray edition had crazy amounts of corrections, redraws, scene replacement... I've never seen any anime with 24 episodes season do this.

I’m new to anime, about to start JJK, would I be better off buying the blu ray in this case than watching on crunchy roll?
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Generally with things like this, you can pick at most two of the three: Speed, Quality, Cost; and the project won't have the 3rd. Add to that that animation is only 1 part of producing an anime, the same decision has to be made for every part, and the Cost and Time decisions of one part can affect what's available for another and it's not too hard to see how things can be very different between anime.

That's just the resource part of things even before considering the artistic meric of each decision. A story strongly supported by and known its visuals might invest more time in that compared to a music anime that might focus on the music when push comes to shove.
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ejleon said:
I think people put far too much focus on animation, they even diss anime that are actually good because they don’t have perfect animation.

I prefer a well written story and dialogue over perfect animation any day.

couldn't agree more, one such og anime imo is death note. it's simple yet blows my mind everytime I watch it.
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sry yall, deletus
@Alex_the_reaper tf did you read properly what i quoted? where is mugen train in there? plus mugen train is a movie and not an anime episode
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Because they only work on one or two major projects at a time and their staff is talented and in house.
They know how to compose stuff and they know how to blend 2D with 3D CGI. They excel in both these categories. Mix it up and you have amazing animation.

actually I'd partially disagree, s1 in particular suffers from 2d characters looking like stickers on a 3d background.

Which funnily enough, even though they're touted for their excellent post-production process, is a compositing issue (a post-production process).
@FiviG It did not look like that for me. I absolutely loved the consistency in character design. I guess they did use thick and dark outlines for character design but I actually found it quite different and likeable.
If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time.

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It’s good but some of the CGI scenes are ehh, especially in S1
The right mindset when watching an anime is hoping that it will break your top 10
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more fans, more views, more expectations, more hype, more expected revenue, more budget given.

mugen train for example costed 15/16 million dollars to make but had an explosive revenue 508 million dollars.
They know they have a gold mine and that its ending (like literall, the story is ending), so instead of risking with something average or just good theyre not stupid, they inject a crazy budget into KNY while they can and do not rush it, so they can present a real masterpiece at the end and profit fiftyfold their expenses.
now idk how much infinity castle costed, the internet says "rumors say it costed 350 million" but thats a bit unlikely cause that would make it THE most expensive movie ever even above avengers endgame. but anyways great things are expected
@Alex_the_reaper Yeah there was one such rumor saying that it costed around 390 million or something but that is highly unlikely. The movie does look expensive with all the visuals and marketing that went on with it but a budget over 350 million is most likely false.
If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time.

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