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Jul 6, 4:07 PM
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Yeah, I’m doubling down on the AI take. There’s so much fluidity in the movement and the shading. I can’t help but think that it would be ridiculously more difficult to create this via traditional frame-by-frame animation.

And outside of just the fluidity; so much “extraness” - for lack of a better word - is in this episode. Like it is completely jam-packed with styling and animation ideas. It feels jarring how much they’ve upped their game here.

Enough of my thoughts though. What do you think is at play here? Am I just out of my mind? Or is something else happening? I’m not an expert at all. I just like anime, so if someone is in the know please explain for me.
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Jul 6, 4:17 PM
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i can tell you one thing its not AI. why? because ai would not look this good clover-work's and whoever is directing or animation producing this show. has many connections to some of the BEST animators who specialize in these character movements and expressions. you can go on https://sakugabooru.com/post?tags=sono_bisque_doll_wa_koi_wo_suru and look at the page on my dress up darling to see the names of many of the talented animators they have and there previous works. now im not sure if the schedule for this show is good im inclined to think they did not have a very good one because clover-works is known for that and i feel like ive seen few leaks saying they are doing too many anime right now. but still enough time to make it look good with how talented they are. but neither did dress up darling season 1 or boochi the rock two cover-works shows that still look top tier. as for if the rest of the season will go downhill. probably not. with the talent on this they can brute force and bad schdueal if there is one. will it all look as good as episode 1 probably not. but that makes sense. and nor does it all need to. but i expect a baseline of good quality to be kept on this show and it will look good probably all the way through
Jul 6, 4:25 PM
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@Pheonixfalconer

Why so confident AI wouldn’t look this good? AI has jumped leaps and bounds when it comes to video. There’s a Wall Street Journal journalist who demonstrated this by making her own content. Quality was ridiculous for a no experience amateur.

Imagine in the hands of professional creators what you could achieve. So little time investment to generate a video that you just need to check over. If it doesn’t look good, oh well. Maybe they just need to change the prompt, and try again?

And I agree those shows were great quality. But this first episode is ridiculous. It needs some explaining
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Is this the first time you are seeing a well animated episode ?
Jul 6, 4:43 PM
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@Pheonixfalconer

Why so confident AI wouldn’t look this good? AI has jumped leaps and bounds when it comes to video. There’s a Wall Street Journal journalist who demonstrated this by making her own content. Quality was ridiculous for a no experience amateur.

Imagine in the hands of professional creators what you could achieve. So little time investment to generate a video that you just need to check over. If it doesn’t look good, oh well. Maybe they just need to change the prompt, and try again?

And I agree those shows were great quality. But this first episode is ridiculous. It needs some explaining
@ghier look man idk. ai could look that good maybe. but thats not the point here. there are other just as good or better animated episodes in other shows that for sure don't use ai. i just don't quite understand why you think this is ai. either way i know for a fact this isnt ai. it just isn't. like i said look at the animators previous work and what they can do. they just can have this level of quality simply due to the staff thats all it is. if you want to believe its ai sure man. but it isn't. the site i gave you clearly attributes a bunch of scenes from this episode to a bunch of different animators that clearly are actually animators and not using ai. some cuts even have links to the early like not finished animation so you can see for yourself
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This is what happens nowadays.


Either the Show doesn't look good and/or EXACTLY like the Manga and it get's trashed.
Or a Show looks amazing and people start doubting the studio, for using AI ...

If the Show looks amazing...then WHY would that even be an issue?


xD We live in silly times.
Jul 6, 5:21 PM
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I can't believe this thread is for real. The problem with the internet is that any dumbass is able to give an opinion.
Go look up the people who worked on this. Stop talking about things you don't know.

It needs some explaining? People know how to draw, and they are the best at it. Thank the people who put the effort, they are all in the credits.
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I just find it funny that people are complaining about AI tools at this level of production.

Like, do you think before the advent of the modern AI tools, people were tweening by hand? Software already did that for the animators for many years before; in this aspect, the modern AI tools are just an evolution of existing tools rather than something new entirely.

Yes, you're out of your mind, and it's clear you're not an expert at all. Why even double down on an opinion if you know nothing about the subject?
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Not reading allat cause I don’t care. Tensura peak. Have a good one tho
Jul 6, 6:55 PM
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I just find it funny that people are complaining about AI tools at this level of production.

Like, do you think before the advent of the modern AI tools, people were tweening by hand? Software already did that for the animators for many years before; in this aspect, the modern AI tools are just an evolution of existing tools rather than something new entirely.

Yes, you're out of your mind, and it's clear you're not an expert at all. Why even double down on an opinion if you know nothing about the subject?

Well, I wasn’t necessarily criticizing the use of AI was I? If it makes the medium higher quality and more efficient I’m all for it.

I was criticizing how jam packed it is though. I think it is a bit much
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I can't believe this thread is for real. The problem with the internet is that any dumbass is able to give an opinion.
Go look up the people who worked on this. Stop talking about things you don't know.

It needs some explaining? People know how to draw, and they are the best at it. Thank the people who put the effort, they are all in the credits.

Well, here’s the thing. People who work with AI would still get credit for the work. I make it sound way more efficient because it would be, but that doesn’t mean the AI tool on its own is enough. That’s why I mention “imagine in the hands of professional creators” in one of my posts.
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This is what happens nowadays.


Either the Show doesn't look good and/or EXACTLY like the Manga and it get's trashed.
Or a Show looks amazing and people start doubting the studio, for using AI ...

If the Show looks amazing...then WHY would that even be an issue?


xD We live in silly times.

Not so much saying AI is the issue. I just felt that was more prevelant to talk about than my opinion.

And my opinion is that they may have gone a bit too wild. There’s so much that I feel overloaded a bit watching the first episode. Still looks amazing of course.
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Talented animators putting in lots of hours. It's as simple as that.
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I can't believe this thread is for real. The problem with the internet is that any dumbass is able to give an opinion.
Go look up the people who worked on this. Stop talking about things you don't know.

It needs some explaining? People know how to draw, and they are the best at it. Thank the people who put the effort, they are all in the credits.

Well, here’s the thing. People who work with AI would still get credit for the work. I make it sound way more efficient because it would be, but that doesn’t mean the AI tool on its own is enough. That’s why I mention “imagine in the hands of professional creators” in one of my posts.
@ghier Professional creators are drawing. There is no AI Prompter credit lol. It baffles me how a team was able to create one of the best episodes of the year with passion and hard work and people call them out for using AI.

As someone already mentioned, go check some credits and try to follow the work of the artists: https://sakugabooru.com/post?page=1&tags=sono_bisque_doll_wa_koi_wo_suru

https://keyframe-staff-list.com/staff/sono-bisque-doll-wa-koi-wo-suru-season-2#01
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@ghier look man idk. ai could look that good maybe. but thats not the point here. there are other just as good or better animated episodes in other shows that for sure don't use ai. i just don't quite understand why you think this is ai. either way i know for a fact this isnt ai. it just isn't. like i said look at the animators previous work and what they can do. they just can have this level of quality simply due to the staff thats all it is. if you want to believe its ai sure man. but it isn't. the site i gave you clearly attributes a bunch of scenes from this episode to a bunch of different animators that clearly are actually animators and not using ai. some cuts even have links to the early like not finished animation so you can see for yourself

I gotcha, well that’s a lot more convincing. I need to look at this.

And to explain the feeling:
To be honest, I’ve had this feeling from some cloverworks scenes before this but kind of brushed it aside because well, only one scene every now and then had the feel of being overly fluid in a way I haven’t seen before. And I’m sure with lot’s of effort you can get that fluidity without the typical chopiness. It kind of just felt overly apparent in this episode to the point where I’m like … how many animators can actually achieve that?

And these aren’t like typical sakura scenes either. A rom-com normally would not need ultra fluid animation to achieve what it needs to achieve in every scene. This is just me trying to step in their shoes here, just a heads up. I don’t actually know. So from a production standpoint, why devote the resources and effort? My thought is, well, if it suddenly becomes more efficient to do so, why not? Of course, it could be it’s just a bunch of all-star animators made it possible, instead of some tool that made the work more efficient. But I have never seen this level of character animation presented so consistently across an anime episode. It’s an outlier for sure; that, I will not concede on.
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@ghier Professional creators are drawing. There is no AI Prompter credit lol. It baffles me how a team was able to create one of the best episodes of the year with passion and hard work and people call them out for using AI.

As someone already mentioned, go check some credits and try to follow the work of the artists: https://sakugabooru.com/post?page=1&tags=sono_bisque_doll_wa_koi_wo_suru

https://keyframe-staff-list.com/staff/sono-bisque-doll-wa-koi-wo-suru-season-2#01

I mean, I wouldn’t say AI would be a bad thing here. So calling them out may be the wrong way to put it. I would applaud an animator that could produce a new bar in animation by making use of AI.

And you wouldn’t necessary need a credit for it. Programmers do their jobs with AI all the time now and the AI doesn’t really get any credit.

But to your point, I do need to look at these sites more. I’ve tried a couple times now after being prompted and couldn’t find how the work transitions from start to finish, just the scene and the credits
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"That's bait" meme aside: Did you watch the first season? The quality in this ep was on par with season 1.

I think following eps will be less jam-packed/fast-paced, but they came out the gate with a bang as a love letter to existing fans.

Also, @stevejawbs mentioned preexisting tools for smoothing tweens & smudging. Yeah, those tools & programs have exisited for decades, but people *also* have drawn those panels by hand, especially before *those* programs existed. These skills have existed for a very long time & have only become more polished over time.

AI is *not* an improvement in the industry - time, budget, & *skill* are. This series has budget & skill in spades & Clover Works is among the better production companies in terms of treating their employees well, so I'm optimistic as to the time taken, as well.
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You really just got used to seeing crap animation to the point where something that's well animated feels unrealistic smfh
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Is this the first time you are seeing a well animated episode ?

brother do you seriously think this is even close to the average good animated episode??? what world do you live on?
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You really just got used to seeing crap animation to the point where something that's well animated feels unrealistic smfh

not even, the animation is just way too insane, that's it
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Is this the first time you are seeing a well animated episode ?

brother do you seriously think this is even close to the average good animated episode??? what world do you live on?
@Fart555 I just sarcastically asked that question since he was overreacting soo much. Moreover what made you think the animation is below avarage ? Cloverwork as usual really did a phenomenal job in animating this series.
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Do you really think it's AI?
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Why so confident AI wouldn’t look this good? AI has jumped leaps and bounds when it comes to video. There’s a Wall Street Journal journalist who demonstrated this by making her own content. Quality was ridiculous for a no experience amateur.

Imagine in the hands of professional creators what you could achieve. So little time investment to generate a video that you just need to check over. If it doesn’t look good, oh well. Maybe they just need to change the prompt, and try again?

And I agree those shows were great quality. But this first episode is ridiculous. It needs some explaining
@ghier yeah the wall street journalist made an ai video. But like there are also bloopers that she probably didn't show on screen. Who knows how many prompt is attempted just to achieve one good scene.

I'm not knowledgable either. But judging from what you write, it seems you mistook prompt generated a.i to be capable of producing a well animated scene. No, they're not. That program is optimized for amateurs to use. It'd take too much effort to optimize it for professional use. You might as well just leave it to the animators rather than just trying to optimize it.

Look, i'm not saying it's impossible. But there's no way a microwave meal can be on par with 3 star michelin dish. Even with the best of ingredients and tools at your disposal.
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They worked hard. Probably really hard.
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I think they used CGI in some scenes, but it's so good that it's hard to spot.
But they already did that in the first season and as long as it looks great, I don't care.
Even if they use AI to make things look better, great.
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Jakkun said:
But like there are also bloopers that she probably didn't show on screen. Who knows how many prompt is attempted just to achieve one good scene.

Amateur AI "artist" here - it's nothing for me to run off 500 images just to get one that will be good enough, and that's after I've done some manual editing on it too. Can't do that with video, though, too expensive, but the bloopers aren't quite as noticable as it's not just one static image that you're looking at.

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I think they used CGI in some scenes, but it's so good that it's hard to spot.

Even hand-drawn animation is sometimes done entirely in 3D CGI first and then traced (Apothecary Diaries, for instance, was done first in Maya). In S1, though, I'm pretty sure that some cuts of Marin were rotoscoped.
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Considering how polished Season 1 was, the top-tier animation in Season 2’s premiere isn’t exactly surprising. CloverWorks has already proven that when they want to shine, they absolutely can.

There’s no obvious reliance on CGI, and if AI or digital tools were used, they were implemented subtly — more as support than a replacement. What we’re seeing here is likely the result of skilled animators, proper scheduling, and focused production efforts.

That’s why I voted for “They’re just that good” — because honestly, they are.
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@ghier

Honestly, I think you're picking up on something real — this episode is packed with extra animation detail, fluidity, and stylish touches. But I wouldn’t jump straight to AI as the primary reason.

If you go back to Season 1 (released in 2022), you’ll notice many of the same qualities: expressive animation, rich shading, and strong character acting — and back then, AI tools for animation weren’t widely used at all. So what we’re seeing now feels more like the natural result of 4 years of progress, plus a studio that knows how to make a strong premiere.

AI might have had a small supporting role (like for cleanup or frame-tweaking), but I’d say this is still mostly the work of skilled animators and proper production planning. CloverWorks has done this before — and when they care, they really deliver.

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i can tell you one thing its not AI. why? because ai would not look this good clover-work's and whoever is directing or animation producing this show. has many connections to some of the BEST animators who specialize in these character movements and expressions. you can go on https://sakugabooru.com/post?tags=sono_bisque_doll_wa_koi_wo_suru and look at the page on my dress up darling to see the names of many of the talented animators they have and there previous works. now im not sure if the schedule for this show is good im inclined to think they did not have a very good one because clover-works is known for that and i feel like ive seen few leaks saying they are doing too many anime right now. but still enough time to make it look good with how talented they are. but neither did dress up darling season 1 or boochi the rock two cover-works shows that still look top tier. as for if the rest of the season will go downhill. probably not. with the talent on this they can brute force and bad schdueal if there is one. will it all look as good as episode 1 probably not. but that makes sense. and nor does it all need to. but i expect a baseline of good quality to be kept on this show and it will look good probably all the way through
@Phoenixfalconer

I think this take goes a bit too far in the other direction. While it's true that CloverWorks works with top-tier animators and has strong connections in the industry, it's unrealistic to say with certainty that AI wasn’t used at all.

Even major studios like Toei Animation — known for consistently high-quality weekly work like One Piece — have openly stated their intention to integrate AI into their pipeline. That doesn’t mean AI replaces animators, but it does suggest that AI tools are now part of even high-end productions — as assistants for inbetweening, cleanup, or style consistency.

Also, I'm not convinced the visual quality will stay consistent all season. One of the biggest reasons My Dress-Up Darling attracted so many fans in the first place was its production value — and if that drops, it will definitely be noticed. Pulling off this level of animation every week is incredibly hard, even with talent — and especially with CloverWorks’ reputation for overloaded schedules.
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for me its was very awesome
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Have you been watching Cloverworks anime recently? Their production quality has been top notch.
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You really just got used to seeing crap animation to the point where something that's well animated feels unrealistic smfh
@eboygamergirl what this person said
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This is no way AI. why don't you do us all a favor and just stop posting?
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Wow, this animation is super well done, it must have been Ai; my honest reaction 😂. @ghier you need to watch more anime.
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You are just confusing what you call "fluidity" with real life referencing.
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No, it is human-made.
That is called human willpower and desire for greatness.
Praise be to such people.
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Actually, I take it mostly back. I just watched a third time and now it doesn’t seem as impressive. The shading is still unnaturally complex for what you’d expect so I’m not sure what’s going on there. But there are also several moments where I noticed them reusing a set of frames for a line of dialogue or repetitive movements.

The scene with the shop employee seems a bit overly complex for 2D. The shading on there clothes is ridiculous. Not limited to that scene, but it was the most noticeable there. Also in lots of the more complex motion with Wakana. Not sure if it’s just brute effort and dedication to draw in or something else.
And the scene with Marin in glasses does seem like CG some of the time as someone mentioned in the episode discussion.
There’s also one weird moment with Marin’s hand swiping through pictures that looks awkwardly fluid. And there are some moments in the bunny girl shoot that seem overly fluid too. Not sure if there’s a trick to this that distinguishes it.

But all I could find really. Maybe not all that much compared to other shows. Idk
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Wow, this animation is super well done, it must have been Ai; my honest reaction 😂. @ghier you need to watch more anime.

Bruh more?! I’m at like 500 lol
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@ghier yeah the wall street journalist made an ai video. But like there are also bloopers that she probably didn't show on screen. Who knows how many prompt is attempted just to achieve one good scene.

I'm not knowledgable either. But judging from what you write, it seems you mistook prompt generated a.i to be capable of producing a well animated scene. No, they're not. That program is optimized for amateurs to use. It'd take too much effort to optimize it for professional use. You might as well just leave it to the animators rather than just trying to optimize it.

Look, i'm not saying it's impossible. But there's no way a microwave meal can be on par with 3 star michelin dish. Even with the best of ingredients and tools at your disposal.

Well, it’s not like I’m saying they’re using the same program. It just seemed a bit unreal how good it was
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"That's bait" meme aside: Did you watch the first season? The quality in this ep was on par with season 1.

I think following eps will be less jam-packed/fast-paced, but they came out the gate with a bang as a love letter to existing fans.

Also, @stevejawbs mentioned preexisting tools for smoothing tweens & smudging. Yeah, those tools & programs have exisited for decades, but people *also* have drawn those panels by hand, especially before *those* programs existed. These skills have existed for a very long time & have only become more polished over time.

AI is *not* an improvement in the industry - time, budget, & *skill* are. This series has budget & skill in spades & Clover Works is among the better production companies in terms of treating their employees well, so I'm optimistic as to the time taken, as well.

Hold up, there’s a crucial point there that I think is fundamentally incorrect. If AI can be used to produce the same level of quality more efficiently; it’s automatically an improvement because it is less resource intensive. At least from the point of view of production.

So, yes, it would be an improvement.
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@ghier

Honestly, I think you're picking up on something real — this episode is packed with extra animation detail, fluidity, and stylish touches. But I wouldn’t jump straight to AI as the primary reason.

If you go back to Season 1 (released in 2022), you’ll notice many of the same qualities: expressive animation, rich shading, and strong character acting — and back then, AI tools for animation weren’t widely used at all. So what we’re seeing now feels more like the natural result of 4 years of progress, plus a studio that knows how to make a strong premiere.

AI might have had a small supporting role (like for cleanup or frame-tweaking), but I’d say this is still mostly the work of skilled animators and proper production planning. CloverWorks has done this before — and when they care, they really deliver.


I think this makes sense. I appreciate the recognition that something is definitely unnaturally impressive. And I also noticed some of these qualities in season 1, so it’s a pretty convincing take.

I honestly had a hard time holding on to that feeling because of the gut reaction I got from other users on here lol.
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Nah, I can assure you that it's simply the result of THOUSANDS of hours put into every detail. I had the opportunity of going to an anniversary exhibition in Space Galleria a couple of years ago, and you could literally SEE the amount of hard work and love that they poured into the entire series, whether it was voice acting, animation, music (composed by my goat Takeshi Nakatsuka), character design, etc.

And EVEN IF they somehow used AI to animate some of the scenes, it still wouldn't take away from the overall level of production and dedicated work put into the series.
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cloverworks usually have great animation producers

remember by default animation producers are task to gather the staff of an anime show and if they can get super animators aka animators that can draw super fast but making less drawing mistakes to make production efficient then that is the dream

the animation producer of this sequel is a newly promoted one but look at his past projects like elusive samurai and fate grand order babylonia all high quality production https://anilist.co/staff/204164/Shou-Someno

but still cloverworks and a1 studio are owned by aniplex and we know how aniplex do mismanagement so im not gonna be surprise if there will be production problems aka recap episodes or episode breaks

plus now a days freelance animators can choose what projects they like to work so if they are a big fan of the source material like manga then you can bet they want to work on the anime project that is how mappa studio usually attracts talented animators they go get the popular manga for example
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Kyoto Animation: Omigosh! So mucho talents, fr fr, the best animations, superb quality. They work their animators really hard and train them well. 100000000000/10.

Cloverworks: AI drivel slop.

Lmao, this community.

At the time of S1, yes, Sono Bisque may look kinda rough, it was made by Cloverworks B team, turns out they misallocated resources, the A team was doing Akebi's Sailor Uniform.

Now their A team doing S2, and looks stellar.
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Kyoto Animation: Omigosh! So mucho talents, fr fr, the best animations, superb quality. They work their animators really hard and train them well. 100000000000/10.

Cloverworks: AI drivel slop.

Lmao, this community.

At the time of S1, yes, Sono Bisque may look kinda rough, it was made by Cloverworks B team, turns out they misallocated resources, the A team was doing Akebi's Sailor Uniform.

Now their A team doing S2, and looks stellar.

Well hold up, never said it was drivel. It looks amazing whatever they’re doing. When I say extraness in my post, I mean to say it’s so jam-packed that it’s overwhelming. I’m critiquing the direction more than their technical ability as animators
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ZXEAN said:
Is this the first time you are seeing a well animated episode ?

Bro I was gonna ask the same question😂
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Some might already said this but i think mostly for those smooth movements they first make 3d model for animation accuracy they later animated in 2d imo this might take more time than usual but make work easy they are that skilled you can't tell apart
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ghier said:
assignedgengar said:
"That's bait" meme aside: Did you watch the first season? The quality in this ep was on par with season 1.

I think following eps will be less jam-packed/fast-paced, but they came out the gate with a bang as a love letter to existing fans.

Also, @stevejawbs mentioned preexisting tools for smoothing tweens & smudging. Yeah, those tools & programs have exisited for decades, but people *also* have drawn those panels by hand, especially before *those* programs existed. These skills have existed for a very long time & have only become more polished over time.

AI is *not* an improvement in the industry - time, budget, & *skill* are. This series has budget & skill in spades & Clover Works is among the better production companies in terms of treating their employees well, so I'm optimistic as to the time taken, as well.

Hold up, there’s a crucial point there that I think is fundamentally incorrect. If AI can be used to produce the same level of quality more efficiently; it’s automatically an improvement because it is less resource intensive. At least from the point of view of production.

So, yes, it would be an improvement.

It's not less resource intensive. That's the thing. Setting aside any questions about quality, skill, integrity, etc, the servers required to power the hardware are huge energy sinks & terrible on the environment.
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My guess is 3D tweening, similar to how ufotable did Fate Stay Night animations and, presumably, Demon Slayer. You get the bodies set, set the next pose, tween it, get the screens, and draw over it. Takes a hell lot out of guesswork of fluid animations.

I don't want to immediately assume AI, since Cloverworks has a ton of anime scenes that has fluid animations like Shadow's House, Runaway Samurai, and FGO, great animated series.

Afaik, Production IG is the only studio that's used AI for Kaiju 8 (feel free to let me know if there's other animes that used AI, I have significantly watched less animes as of late).
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Kyoto Animation: Omigosh! So mucho talents, fr fr, the best animations, superb quality. They work their animators really hard and train them well. 100000000000/10.

Cloverworks: AI drivel slop.

Lmao, this community.

At the time of S1, yes, Sono Bisque may look kinda rough, it was made by Cloverworks B team, turns out they misallocated resources, the A team was doing Akebi's Sailor Uniform.

Now their A team doing S2, and looks stellar.
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At the time of S1, yes, Sono Bisque may look kinda rough, it was made by Cloverworks B team, turns out they misallocated resources, the A team was doing Akebi's Sailor Uniform.


I don't know where you're getting your sources from, but this is completely wrong. Umehara is one of the best currently active animation producers, with connections to a plethera of excellent animators that specialize in character acting, his production line is by no means a "B team".

And this is still being produced under the same line, there was no change. There was only a swapping of roles, with the previous desk Shou Someono taking over as the AniP while Umehara assists him, but the main staff is mostly the same as before.
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