As in the title
| Is this the first time you are seeing a well animated episode ? |
| This is what happens nowadays. Either the Show doesn't look good and/or EXACTLY like the Manga and it get's trashed. Or a Show looks amazing and people start doubting the studio, for using AI ... If the Show looks amazing...then WHY would that even be an issue? xD We live in silly times. |
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| "That's bait" meme aside: Did you watch the first season? The quality in this ep was on par with season 1. I think following eps will be less jam-packed/fast-paced, but they came out the gate with a bang as a love letter to existing fans. Also, @stevejawbs mentioned preexisting tools for smoothing tweens & smudging. Yeah, those tools & programs have exisited for decades, but people *also* have drawn those panels by hand, especially before *those* programs existed. These skills have existed for a very long time & have only become more polished over time. AI is *not* an improvement in the industry - time, budget, & *skill* are. This series has budget & skill in spades & Clover Works is among the better production companies in terms of treating their employees well, so I'm optimistic as to the time taken, as well. |
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Reply to Fart555
ZXEAN said:
Is this the first time you are seeing a well animated episode ?
Is this the first time you are seeing a well animated episode ?
brother do you seriously think this is even close to the average good animated episode??? what world do you live on?
| @Fart555 I just sarcastically asked that question since he was overreacting soo much. Moreover what made you think the animation is below avarage ? Cloverwork as usual really did a phenomenal job in animating this series. |
ZXEANJul 6, 9:58 PM
Do you really think it's AI? |
Reply to ghier
@Pheonixfalconer
Why so confident AI wouldn’t look this good? AI has jumped leaps and bounds when it comes to video. There’s a Wall Street Journal journalist who demonstrated this by making her own content. Quality was ridiculous for a no experience amateur.
Imagine in the hands of professional creators what you could achieve. So little time investment to generate a video that you just need to check over. If it doesn’t look good, oh well. Maybe they just need to change the prompt, and try again?
And I agree those shows were great quality. But this first episode is ridiculous. It needs some explaining
Why so confident AI wouldn’t look this good? AI has jumped leaps and bounds when it comes to video. There’s a Wall Street Journal journalist who demonstrated this by making her own content. Quality was ridiculous for a no experience amateur.
Imagine in the hands of professional creators what you could achieve. So little time investment to generate a video that you just need to check over. If it doesn’t look good, oh well. Maybe they just need to change the prompt, and try again?
And I agree those shows were great quality. But this first episode is ridiculous. It needs some explaining
| @ghier yeah the wall street journalist made an ai video. But like there are also bloopers that she probably didn't show on screen. Who knows how many prompt is attempted just to achieve one good scene. I'm not knowledgable either. But judging from what you write, it seems you mistook prompt generated a.i to be capable of producing a well animated scene. No, they're not. That program is optimized for amateurs to use. It'd take too much effort to optimize it for professional use. You might as well just leave it to the animators rather than just trying to optimize it. Look, i'm not saying it's impossible. But there's no way a microwave meal can be on par with 3 star michelin dish. Even with the best of ingredients and tools at your disposal. |
| I think they used CGI in some scenes, but it's so good that it's hard to spot. But they already did that in the first season and as long as it looks great, I don't care. Even if they use AI to make things look better, great. |
Jakkun said: But like there are also bloopers that she probably didn't show on screen. Who knows how many prompt is attempted just to achieve one good scene. Amateur AI "artist" here - it's nothing for me to run off 500 images just to get one that will be good enough, and that's after I've done some manual editing on it too. Can't do that with video, though, too expensive, but the bloopers aren't quite as noticable as it's not just one static image that you're looking at. Gator said: I think they used CGI in some scenes, but it's so good that it's hard to spot. Even hand-drawn animation is sometimes done entirely in 3D CGI first and then traced (Apothecary Diaries, for instance, was done first in Maya). In S1, though, I'm pretty sure that some cuts of Marin were rotoscoped. |
ThoguhtJul 7, 4:11 AM
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| Considering how polished Season 1 was, the top-tier animation in Season 2’s premiere isn’t exactly surprising. CloverWorks has already proven that when they want to shine, they absolutely can. There’s no obvious reliance on CGI, and if AI or digital tools were used, they were implemented subtly — more as support than a replacement. What we’re seeing here is likely the result of skilled animators, proper scheduling, and focused production efforts. That’s why I voted for “They’re just that good” — because honestly, they are. |
| @ghier Honestly, I think you're picking up on something real — this episode is packed with extra animation detail, fluidity, and stylish touches. But I wouldn’t jump straight to AI as the primary reason. If you go back to Season 1 (released in 2022), you’ll notice many of the same qualities: expressive animation, rich shading, and strong character acting — and back then, AI tools for animation weren’t widely used at all. So what we’re seeing now feels more like the natural result of 4 years of progress, plus a studio that knows how to make a strong premiere. AI might have had a small supporting role (like for cleanup or frame-tweaking), but I’d say this is still mostly the work of skilled animators and proper production planning. CloverWorks has done this before — and when they care, they really deliver. |
Reply to Phoenixfalconer
i can tell you one thing its not AI. why? because ai would not look this good clover-work's and whoever is directing or animation producing this show. has many connections to some of the BEST animators who specialize in these character movements and expressions. you can go on https://sakugabooru.com/post?tags=sono_bisque_doll_wa_koi_wo_suru and look at the page on my dress up darling to see the names of many of the talented animators they have and there previous works. now im not sure if the schedule for this show is good im inclined to think they did not have a very good one because clover-works is known for that and i feel like ive seen few leaks saying they are doing too many anime right now. but still enough time to make it look good with how talented they are. but neither did dress up darling season 1 or boochi the rock two cover-works shows that still look top tier. as for if the rest of the season will go downhill. probably not. with the talent on this they can brute force and bad schdueal if there is one. will it all look as good as episode 1 probably not. but that makes sense. and nor does it all need to. but i expect a baseline of good quality to be kept on this show and it will look good probably all the way through
| @Phoenixfalconer I think this take goes a bit too far in the other direction. While it's true that CloverWorks works with top-tier animators and has strong connections in the industry, it's unrealistic to say with certainty that AI wasn’t used at all. Even major studios like Toei Animation — known for consistently high-quality weekly work like One Piece — have openly stated their intention to integrate AI into their pipeline. That doesn’t mean AI replaces animators, but it does suggest that AI tools are now part of even high-end productions — as assistants for inbetweening, cleanup, or style consistency. Also, I'm not convinced the visual quality will stay consistent all season. One of the biggest reasons My Dress-Up Darling attracted so many fans in the first place was its production value — and if that drops, it will definitely be noticed. Pulling off this level of animation every week is incredibly hard, even with talent — and especially with CloverWorks’ reputation for overloaded schedules. |
| This is no way AI. why don't you do us all a favor and just stop posting? |
ghier said: assignedgengar said: "That's bait" meme aside: Did you watch the first season? The quality in this ep was on par with season 1. I think following eps will be less jam-packed/fast-paced, but they came out the gate with a bang as a love letter to existing fans. Also, @stevejawbs mentioned preexisting tools for smoothing tweens & smudging. Yeah, those tools & programs have exisited for decades, but people *also* have drawn those panels by hand, especially before *those* programs existed. These skills have existed for a very long time & have only become more polished over time. AI is *not* an improvement in the industry - time, budget, & *skill* are. This series has budget & skill in spades & Clover Works is among the better production companies in terms of treating their employees well, so I'm optimistic as to the time taken, as well. Hold up, there’s a crucial point there that I think is fundamentally incorrect. If AI can be used to produce the same level of quality more efficiently; it’s automatically an improvement because it is less resource intensive. At least from the point of view of production. So, yes, it would be an improvement. It's not less resource intensive. That's the thing. Setting aside any questions about quality, skill, integrity, etc, the servers required to power the hardware are huge energy sinks & terrible on the environment. |
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Reply to thehornedrat
Kyoto Animation: Omigosh! So mucho talents, fr fr, the best animations, superb quality. They work their animators really hard and train them well. 100000000000/10.
Cloverworks: AI drivel slop.
Lmao, this community.
At the time of S1, yes, Sono Bisque may look kinda rough, it was made by Cloverworks B team, turns out they misallocated resources, the A team was doing Akebi's Sailor Uniform.
Now their A team doing S2, and looks stellar.
Cloverworks: AI drivel slop.
Lmao, this community.
At the time of S1, yes, Sono Bisque may look kinda rough, it was made by Cloverworks B team, turns out they misallocated resources, the A team was doing Akebi's Sailor Uniform.
Now their A team doing S2, and looks stellar.
thehornedrat said: At the time of S1, yes, Sono Bisque may look kinda rough, it was made by Cloverworks B team, turns out they misallocated resources, the A team was doing Akebi's Sailor Uniform. I don't know where you're getting your sources from, but this is completely wrong. Umehara is one of the best currently active animation producers, with connections to a plethera of excellent animators that specialize in character acting, his production line is by no means a "B team". And this is still being produced under the same line, there was no change. There was only a swapping of roles, with the previous desk Shou Someono taking over as the AniP while Umehara assists him, but the main staff is mostly the same as before. |
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