Tensei Kizoku, Kantei Skill de Nariagaru 2nd Season Episode 4 Discussion

First 2 minutes, the army has about 10 guys in it, and their strategy is to "charge!" at a fort with 40 foot walls?

Ok...

Rosell's plan at 6 minutes in is blatantly obvious to anyone, but is portrayed as an S-level plan.

14 minutes in was the perfect time for the show to reveal that Ars' army is more powerful than its numbers would suggest due to Ars' skill allowing perfect use and specialization of his troops. Instead, it again focuses entirely on his tiny group of S-class characters. At this point I've just given up on this show actually having an intelligent MC.

At 15:30, the 10,000 strong enemy army is represented by...3 dudes. Rietz's ambushing forces was maybe a dozen guys. Later there are a handful of scenes that maybe get up to 20 people, but with no motion. Combined with the original army from above where the entire attacking force was maybe 10 people, it really feels like they just cheaped out on animation.

The barrier defeat strategy, first from Rosell and then repeated later by Charlotte was the super-advanced strategy of "what if we attack more than they an defend?" Brilliant.

@amf85

It's even worse than that. I don't know what they were thinking. Strategically:

-Splitting your army into three is the worst thing you can do. As long as time is not a factor, laying siege to individual forts one by one would be the optimal choice, both in terms of defeating the garrisons with less casualties, and to be prepared against encirclement.
- How is having scouts in every direction not Medieval Warfare 101, but an S-class strategy?
- How are immediate frontal assaults the optimal strategy in the first place? Magic can change things, of course, but an initial siege and bombardment phase of the fortifications is a given.

Tactically:

-That scene of swordsmen charging against stone walls had me facepalm as well. They didn't even have ladders or anything. I guess the plan was to hit the stone walls with their swords until the walls' HP ran out, lol.
-How can a force of 2,000 not only hold off 10,000, but DEFEAT and ROUT them? How could their forces return in time to celebrate the downfall of the barrier? The most they could do would be to hold them off for a while in a battle of attrition.
-And how did they "win" when the barrier came down? Send your soldiers in and take the garrison out before starting the celebrations, maybe?

Thematically:

-Making 2,000 of your soldiers hold off a force of 10,000 would lead to much more casualties than a retreat. So Ars-sama chose to spend the lives of hundreds of his troops in the best case scenario for an uncertain victory which could lead to the deaths of everyone involved if they failed. Is he that cold-blooded?

@Zolmir Ah, but you forget the strategic principal of "once the episode ends all the pesky details are forgotten." You know, principals like...OK, the barrier is down, but you still have to actually take the fort, so you're still trapped between a larger enemy and a fortification. Or...OK, you defeated their mage, but why does that suddenly mean that Rietz has won against his overwhelmingly stronger enemy force? And if he could win by himself, why wasn't that just the plan?

Also, I feel like the show is so focused on the group we're watching that we're supposed to forget everything else. If the enemy has massed 10,000 troops to attack Ars, doesn't that mean they've essentially left not only the other two forts, but also the main town completely undefended and guaranteed to lose to the other allied forces? If this wasn't a TV show, the ideal solution would be to just leave Ars to die and take the rest of the region easily and then regroup and take out the 10,000 person army which has left its defenses and is now rolling around outnumbered and open to attack.

The show continues to pretend to be military strategy, but instead focus entirely on winning because of the heroes (of which Ars is NOT, he contributes nothing). The armies are just background fluff.

First 2 minutes, the army has about 10 guys in it, and their strategy is to "charge!" at a fort with 40 foot walls?

Ok...

Rosell's plan at 6 minutes in is blatantly obvious to anyone, but is portrayed as an S-level plan.

14 minutes in was the perfect time for the show to reveal that Ars' army is more powerful than its numbers would suggest due to Ars' skill allowing perfect use and specialization of his troops. Instead, it again focuses entirely on his tiny group of S-class characters. At this point I've just given up on this show actually having an intelligent MC.

At 15:30, the 10,000 strong enemy army is represented by...3 dudes. Rietz's ambushing forces was maybe a dozen guys. Later there are a handful of scenes that maybe get up to 20 people, but with no motion. Combined with the original army from above where the entire attacking force was maybe 10 people, it really feels like they just cheaped out on animation.

The barrier defeat strategy, first from Rosell and then repeated later by Charlotte was the super-advanced strategy of "what if we attack more than they an defend?" Brilliant.

First 2 minutes, the army has about 10 guys in it, and their strategy is to "charge!" at a fort with 40 foot walls?

Ok...

Rosell's plan at 6 minutes in is blatantly obvious to anyone, but is portrayed as an S-level plan.

14 minutes in was the perfect time for the show to reveal that Ars' army is more powerful than its numbers would suggest due to Ars' skill allowing perfect use and specialization of his troops. Instead, it again focuses entirely on his tiny group of S-class characters. At this point I've just given up on this show actually having an intelligent MC.

At 15:30, the 10,000 strong enemy army is represented by...3 dudes. Rietz's ambushing forces was maybe a dozen guys. Later there are a handful of scenes that maybe get up to 20 people, but with no motion. Combined with the original army from above where the entire attacking force was maybe 10 people, it really feels like they just cheaped out on animation.

The barrier defeat strategy, first from Rosell and then repeated later by Charlotte was the super-advanced strategy of "what if we attack more than they an defend?" Brilliant.

@amf85

It's even worse than that. I don't know what they were thinking. Strategically:

-Splitting your army into three is the worst thing you can do. As long as time is not a factor, laying siege to individual forts one by one would be the optimal choice, both in terms of defeating the garrisons with less casualties, and to be prepared against encirclement.
- How is having scouts in every direction not Medieval Warfare 101, but an S-class strategy?
- How are immediate frontal assaults the optimal strategy in the first place? Magic can change things, of course, but an initial siege and bombardment phase of the fortifications is a given.

Tactically:

-That scene of swordsmen charging against stone walls had me facepalm as well. They didn't even have ladders or anything. I guess the plan was to hit the stone walls with their swords until the walls' HP ran out, lol.
-How can a force of 2,000 not only hold off 10,000, but DEFEAT and ROUT them? How could their forces return in time to celebrate the downfall of the barrier? The most they could do would be to hold them off for a while in a battle of attrition.
-And how did they "win" when the barrier came down? Send your soldiers in and take the garrison out before starting the celebrations, maybe?

Thematically:

-Making 2,000 of your soldiers hold off a force of 10,000 would lead to much more casualties than a retreat. So Ars-sama chose to spend the lives of hundreds of his troops in the best case scenario for an uncertain victory which could lead to the deaths of everyone involved if they failed. Is he that cold-blooded?