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What do you think the pioneer of the Isekai genre is?

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Aug 15, 2024 8:21 PM
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Nothing compares to Inuyasha’s take on the genre, but I’m curious to know what other anime viewers think, especially since Isekai is being newly rediscovered by modern anime fans.
Aug 15, 2024 8:24 PM
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JR Tolkien would probably be the founder of most Isekai anime...

Overtime, Isekais added their own unqiue traits, such as these:


  • Saving slave girls
  • Getting a harem
  • Elf sex slaves
  • Everyone but the main character is female
  • Red hair girl which is strong
  • Not going against slavery, poverty, or woman rights, with the exception of that one person that they just bumped into.
Aug 15, 2024 8:26 PM
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The Magic Treehouse was pretty huge, ngl
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Aug 15, 2024 8:34 PM
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Leda: The Fantastic Adventure of Yohko I think of it some said it's pionner of Iskeai anime of the 80s
Aug 15, 2024 8:36 PM
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The Magic Treehouse was pretty huge, ngl
@Timeline_man I hope kids today still read those books fr
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Aug 15, 2024 8:39 PM
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The modern isekai genre is largely inspired by sao in terms of anime. Most isekai love using game terminology with harems, and a boarderline cheat mc.
Ironically enough SAO does a few things different that I prefer
- MC is actually loyal to his wife
- MC actually does not have a grudge against reality to never return from fantasy world.
- Actually has a real job he plans to pursue
Aug 15, 2024 8:44 PM
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I kind of hate to be "that guy" (but not really), but to open up the battle wounds on the age-old, neverending debate, Inuyasha really isn't an isekai anymore than, say, Steins;Gate is. It's a time travel story taking Kagome to the same exact location in the past as her family's shrine property, with even some of the same landmarks (Goshinboku) still there. And MAL's tags are incorrect at least by omission frequently enough to not want to defer to them as a final authority, but I think at least in this case they got it right in not including the isekai theme tag on Inuyasha's page in the database for that reason.

But I get in that a lot of people assuming it was one or thinking about it in such terms still could have influenced the isekai subgenre at a time when entries into it were more sparse and it was considered relatively new territory (at least for anime).

I always hear Escaflowne mentioned in the same breath and while I personally haven't seen it myself, that was released even earlier, coming out in 1996, so could be seen as more of the progenitor of late 20th century isekai which took us into the wave of 21st century isekai. That and maybe its even slightly earlier released cousin, Fushigi Yugi, which came out in 1995.

Even though the substance and actual mechanisms at play concerning what happens in Inuyasha is different, I do think it shares some thematic overlap with what I know of those and other earlier isekai though which is a marked contrast from the post-2012/Sword Art Online wave of isekai we've seen many of the past 12 years or so. Just having a female protagonist is already a radical enough deviation. And then there's the fact that the female protagonist typically wanted to go home, or at least, wasn't using the new world they stumbled into as an escape from a life they considered bleak and depressing back home.

I personally wonder what that says about the changing culture and how it's influenced art on this topic. Whether someone is reincarnated from birth as a newborn baby, transported/teleported in their exact same body in one piece to the new universe, or their consciousness takes over another already older living person in the new universe (I saw this variant at least in Isekai Yakkyoku), it's almost taken as a given in these modern isekai that home and life on Earth isn't a place worth going back to. It's not just about the novelty of an exotic place and exciting adventure, but more like liberation from a dreary imprisonment.


Aug 15, 2024 9:14 PM
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It bit mix of series in my opinion. We won't talk about the old ones because modern isekai concept format as we know right now was not really found on these series. Isekai concept was also never really popular back then. In short, back then before SAO, there is no fixed formula as we found in modern isekai in those old isekai. That why they're felt so unique now if we watched it again through modern lens.

I tried to strech few of them :

  1. The bland black haired design MC that we usually found in isekais is inspired by SAO MC, Kirito. I believe people generally agreed with this. Also the whole 'game concept and/or term' in isekai as general as well.
  2. The OBVIOUSLY MC with broken abilitiy since the beginning without notable effort. I personally believed that was from Isekai Cheat Magician, but it's absolutely debatable. Feel free to argue.
  3. The 'trapped in otome game' concept. I believe Hamefura popularized it on anime media, kinda big turned point for Shoujo series in general in my opinion.
  4. Lastly, the 'Demon King and Hero' concept. This concept is pretty classy. They're usually appear in all form of media, especially in classic JRPG series. So i believe there is no anime series title directly responsible for this.

Aug 15, 2024 9:39 PM
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"What do you think the pioneer of the Isekai genre is?"

Digimon.
Aug 15, 2024 10:53 PM

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I imagine SAO is one of the first ones, and probably the most influential of the early 2010s in any case.
Aug 15, 2024 11:09 PM

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The Familiar of Zero and The Vision of Escaflowne are the First Popular Isekai.. Spirited Away is One of the First Major Films With Isekai concept..
Others I think are The Twelve Kingdoms, Magic Knight Rayearth and Tsubasa Chronicle by clamp
Aug 16, 2024 12:41 AM

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Don't know about older isekai but Zero no Tsukaima was the pioneer of modern isekai, there's an article about how it all started

Also Inuyasha is time travel, not isekai
Aug 16, 2024 1:11 AM
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"What do you think the pioneer of the Isekai genre is?"

Digimon.
@Serafos fully agree! And it is still the best!
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OMG, what don't y'all understand. JK Tolkien, Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit, is one of the main founders of Isekai. This is because every Isekai is set in a JK Tolkien world!!
Aug 16, 2024 1:43 AM
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OMG, what don't y'all understand. JK Tolkien, Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit, is one of the main founders of Isekai. This is because every Isekai is set in a JK Tolkien world!!
@Hiimoohiii his name is JRR Tolkien, but other than that kind of? Isekai is based on rpg that is based on JRR Tolkien's work, but saying that they are in that specific world requires the stories to work with the mythology of the story, which just isn't true
Aug 16, 2024 3:35 AM
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Aura Battler Dunbine is the first anime isekai.
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El Hazard needs a mention, it was quite formative in pointing towards latter day trends.
Aug 16, 2024 8:20 PM
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El Hazard needs a mention, it was quite formative in pointing towards latter day trends.
@logopolis This one right here. Not only that, but the Pioneer OVA was bloody gorgeous to watch. It made you realize these kids & the Coach are actually in another World, with exotic flying animals & flowers.
Also, Windaria No Escaflowne of course. One of the founders.
As for the trapped in the Game subset, .Hack was WAY before SAO, in the very early days of MMOS for that matter.
Aug 16, 2024 8:25 PM
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The Magic Treehouse was pretty huge, ngl
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oh my god i never thought of how magic treehouse is technically an isekai. wow.
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oh my god i never thought of how magic treehouse is technically an isekai. wow.
@Kenzolo-folk A lot of classic literature are just "technically isekai". Narnia, Alice in Wonderland, for examples. Isekai is the most literal use of the "new world" part of the Hero's Journey.
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I have no idea, my first isekai movie is probably the neverending story, my first isekai anime is probably the vision of Escaflowne. My first isekai book could be the divine comedy. As a cartoon maybe Alice in wonderland. "The father" of such stuff can go back from the beginning of human history, the epic of Gilgamesh one of the oldest known narrative literature has a lot of isekai elements in it.
The greeks loved to mix myth with reality and many works like the odyssey and the iliad have a lot of isekai elements with mysterious and magical places but here the key element is the journey through the unknown land, unknown seas, and not other planets and dimensions of the universe, simply their imagination was limited to the knowledge of that time just like now.
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The Magic Treehouse was pretty huge, ngl
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I was going to say that's not isekai, until I remembered it has a few volumes set in fictional lands like Camelot.
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