| Well, even if we compare him as he is now to any other isekai protagonist, he is still above average in terms of mortality. |
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Saimatsu_Fan said: Piromysl said: Well, even if we compare him as he is now to any other isekai protagonist, he is still above average in terms of mortality. i mean compared to whom exactly ? Cid, Kazuma, Michio, etc. |
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| Ahahaha © me, all rights reserved. Perhaps you should remove the jokey Redo of Healer example to make it more believable. |
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Saimatsu_Fan said: eh, a fair response tho many people already hate Kazuma and no one takes Cid seriously, and michio is the MC of an anime 99% of people don't even know I don't really see people hating on Kazuma at all. I also like him, but the double standard among community is obvious. While Michio's anime is niche, he is easily the most vile and rotten scumbag protagonist in all anime, not only isekai. |
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| We don't "attack" Rudeus because we hate the anime, we "attack" him because he has done quite some fucked up things and he still occasionally does. Yeah, he did good things and he is trying to be a better person but that doesn't mean we can just ignore the shit he did and consider him a nice person. |
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| many of them because they have to hang onto something to make the show look inferior some of them because they are simple minded. some of them because they are sensitive to the issues he presents. some because they cannot view fiction as fiction and feel every MC need to follow a set of morals, and be punished by the script for not following it. a few because they like his character writing but not the character himself. |
| "All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo |
Zarutaku said: Ahahaha © me, all rights reserved. Perhaps you should remove the jokey Redo of Healer example to make it more believable. Seems like he is trying to defend creeps/pedos/rapists. |
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| Maybe because his bad attributes and actions far outweigh and overshadow his good actions. |
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| Because he's flawed and he's horny, people hate flawed, horny characters. |
| Me personally I just don't like him. Sometimes you meet people in real life you don't click with. Same for characters. Even though I do see improvements in his character I still can't seem to want to give him any compliments besides he's slowly growing into a more respectable person. but it takes way too damn long if you ask me. They have also written him as a horndog in a creepy, rapist kind of way. I absolutely hate that. So in the end whoever wrote his character was purposefully trying to make him easy to hate or has some questionable morals themselves. I don't vibe with either. |
Rhae said: Because he's flawed and he's horny, people hate flawed, horny characters. Bruh. Flawed protagonist is literally the best thing you can have in any fictional story. |
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Rhae said:
Because he's flawed and he's horny, people hate flawed, horny characters.
Because he's flawed and he's horny, people hate flawed, horny characters.
Bruh. Flawed protagonist is literally the best thing you can have in any fictional story.
| @Piromysl Well, of course, but Rudeus haters be hating. |
SenshadouOtaku said: Bro we literally got the same brain dead thread not even a week ago And it was made by the same person. |
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| They attack Rudeus to undermine the show's success and impact on the medium. People are salty an anime featuring a non -generic, dull, power fantasy type MC is getting more recognition than their run-of-the-mill battle shonen. |
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Who is this Michio guy? I have read xxxx number of isekai but I have not heard of Michio. :/ Don’t understand why people are comparing Cid and Rudeus. Cid is a stupid chunni while Rudeus is trying to become a better person because he is a useless bum in previous life. Cannot speak on Kazuma, I dropped it at the first volume. As far as I remember, there are only 2 isekai protagonists that have more character development than Rudeus. Not going to compare them with Rudeus because one of them has a female protagonist (useless bum in previous life but not a perverted creep) while the other is sci-fi (a scumbag before isekai’d, not a useless bum). |
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Who is this Michio guy? I have read xxxx number of isekai but I have not heard of Michio. :/
Don’t understand why people are comparing Cid and Rudeus. Cid is a stupid chunni while Rudeus is trying to become a better person because he is a useless bum in previous life.
Cannot speak on Kazuma, I dropped it at the first volume.
As far as I remember, there are only 2 isekai protagonists that have more character development than Rudeus.
Not going to compare them with Rudeus because one of them has a female protagonist (useless bum in previous life but not a perverted creep) while the other is sci-fi (a scumbag before isekai’d, not a useless bum).
| @NewestPersonHere I'm talking about Michio from Isekai Labirynh Harem or something like that. Dude is honestly reprehensible and makes Rudeus look like an angel in comparison. No hate on Cid, but his antics like terrorism or gaslighting and manipulating people just for fun are textbook sociopath behaviour and arguably much worse than what Rudeus has ever done, which is why Rudeus getting hate for something he did in the past and never again is an obvious double standard. And out of curiosity, please name those two you speak of. |
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X5452 said:
Me personally I just don't like him. Sometimes you meet people in real life you don't click with. Same for characters. Even though I do see improvements in his character I still can't seem to want to give him any compliments besides he's slowly growing into a more respectable person. but it takes way too damn long if you ask me. They have also written him as a horndog in a creepy, rapist kind of way. I absolutely hate that. So in the end whoever wrote his character was purposefully trying to make him easy to hate or has some questionable morals themselves. I don't vibe with either.
Me personally I just don't like him. Sometimes you meet people in real life you don't click with. Same for characters. Even though I do see improvements in his character I still can't seem to want to give him any compliments besides he's slowly growing into a more respectable person. but it takes way too damn long if you ask me. They have also written him as a horndog in a creepy, rapist kind of way. I absolutely hate that. So in the end whoever wrote his character was purposefully trying to make him easy to hate or has some questionable morals themselves. I don't vibe with either.
people doesn't change overnight
| @0m3gA_o3 What kind of stupid reply is this? The timeline of the shows has been YEARS! Not a night. Also use proper grammar. |
| Why even mention redo of healer in your argument, now its worthless and cope ๐ญ๐ญ rudeus is deliberately written flawed and thats a good thing, debating the morality and legality of his actions is completely pointless when you understand its a completely different world but defending him when he does questionable shit is retarded aswell just stop fucking talking |
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Kitsune_089 said: Why even mention redo of healer in your argument, now its worthless and cope ๐ญ๐ญ rudeus is deliberately written flawed and thats a good thing, debating the morality and legality of his actions is completely pointless when you understand its a completely different world but defending him when he does questionable shit is retarded aswell just stop fucking talking It's not the first time OP does this. He made almost exact same thread like 2 weeks ago trying to only focus on the good things Rudeus did while completely pretending the messed up stuff he did either didn't exist or it's fine cuz now he does some good deeds. Also him mentioning Redo of a Healer's mc being not bad is just... |
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| Honestly, many immature and/or fragile people took this anime too seriously and projecting bad things into Rudeus just in order to hate the show, because, what a surprise, they took too much seriously a show about starting harem, with jokes here and there and with lightweight atmosphere and good story. (I noticed this a lot on MAL.) Which is not something many people are used to as such pieces have tendency to fail into average category or even worse. My advice? You shouldn't care about opinion of other people as much as they don't have to care about yours. This entire attacking/defending anime or character in order to spread pure hate towards somebody is just waste of time. Some people just like one show, one character, some people like something different. You won't convince them about your POV and they won't convince you about their POV. Pure inevitable fact is that anime is successful and it's nice, with good characters, story, jokes, animation and music. Whether somebody hates it or not, won't obviously affect it in any way, as those people are in minority. It's just a personal opinion and if it's something that can influence your POV on the anime, you probably should stop reading such things, if you are sensitive to them. So, that's it, I guess... |
GoatPieceLuffy said: I don't understand why people, when praise is made about Rudeus who does morally right things despite his tragic past, tend to attack him with pathetic accusations just because they hate the show, that is, Rudeus, despite considering himself a bad person, really does a lot of things very honorable (such as saving Sylphie from bullies, preventing his family from falling apart, leading Eris on the right track, helping Ruijerd to restore the honor of the Superds, relieving his father of his misery, freeing Lilia & Aisha, saving Sara's life, taking good care of his sisters) and it is right that he is praised about this, even if it is annoying how the story tries to portray Rudeus as a bad person when in reality he is not, such as Keyaru from Redo of Healer. However it seems that praise cannot be made about him because the haters will attack him to the hilt, even though the praises are legitimate and reasonable and that's what I can't understand. The haters are really so susceptible that they don't even see the reality of the facts anymore? What do you think about it? ^^^ Courtesy of @Zarutaku Rudeus is a goat. We're living in an age where Cancel Culture is the norm, so things like redemption and forgiveness are frowned upon, ignored and even discouraged. People today love to use past mistakes and moments of weakness as leverage to those they dislike regardless of how much they've literally and figuratively changed to atone for what they've done. You'd be surprised how much people despise each other for asinine, immature, and trivial reasons when all it takes is to spend some time to know the person to see where they're coming from to better understand where they're going. |
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GoatPieceLuffy said: @Kitsune_089 The "Redo of Healer" example was a joke But of course, you & @GTRaijin lack reading comprehension. ah yes schrodingers sarcasm (/douchebag) you can fuck right off |
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Piromysl said: @NewestPersonHere I'm talking about Michio from Isekai Labirynh Harem or something like that. Dude is honestly reprehensible and makes Rudeus look like an angel in comparison. No hate on Cid, but his antics like terrorism or gaslighting and manipulating people just for fun are textbook sociopath behaviour and arguably much worse than what Rudeus has ever done, which is why Rudeus getting hate for something he did in the past and never again is an obvious double standard. And out of curiosity, please name those two you speak of. Never heard of that Isekai Labrythm Harem title? :/ Cid does care about his subordinates though, such as going great lengths for Rose, Akane, Alexia, etc. Cid is just too dumb to notice the nonsense he made up is real and is running out doing this chunni activities, such as killing evil people for fun. >_> I have seen more worse isekai protagonist. The most cruel isekai protagonist I can think of is Rene from Rose Princess Of Hellrage. She murders an entire city to raise a city of zombies to overthrow a kingdom. >_> Regarding the two isekai protagonists that have more character development than Rudeus? They are Rozemyne and Shirogane Takeru. Both have a longer and tougher journey than Rudeus, especially Takeru. Rozemyne is weak, naive, etc but she grows as the series progresses such as experiencing family warmth and becoming a more responsible person. Not going to go in depth into Takeru. Although Takeru has more character development than both Rozemyne and Rudeus, hard to compare them as he is isekai’d into a sci-fi world as horrible as hell. >_> I don’t see the reason to randomly compare isekai protagonists unless there are a ton of similarities such as Smartphone and Death March. LN readers are still debating which one is the worst isekai. >_> Mushoku Tensei is one of the two redemption isekai I have seen. The other being Seirei Gensouki. Not going to compare them as their approach to redemption is different. :/ |
GoatPieceLuffy said: @Kitsune_089 The "Redo of Healer" example was a joke But of course, you & @GTRaijin lack reading comprehension. Ah yes, so now it is just a joke. When you don't know how to get out of the mess you got into yourself, you just say it was a joke and call it a day. Same energy as "it's just a prank, bro." |
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GoatPieceLuffy said: @GTRaijin I honestly don't understand why you participate in these forums if you hate the show so damn much? In which part I have mentioned that I hate the anime? Please don't make these threads if you can't even understand what other people are saying and you cannot agree with any other opinions besides your own. |
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GTRaijin said: Ah yes, so now it is just a joke. When you don't know how to get out of the mess you got into yourself, you just say it was a joke and call it a day. Same energy as "it's just a prank, bro." I can confirm it's a joke, I got mentioned above because the text is a copypasta funpost (with some truth to it) that I replied to the OP of the original topic and the jokey Redo of Healer example should make it more obvious (apparently not enough). GoatPieceLuffy probably wants to discuss the true parts but didn't bother to change the text, hence I suggested to remove the jokey example. |
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