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It's far from being the best anime ever made in the history of humanity, but it was a very beautiful journey to follow, the story is good, the characters are great and the production was impeccable from beginning to end, simply fantastic! |
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| Been watching seasonal anime since 2018, this is by far the best one i've watched. it has got everything going on for it, i'm impressed with what has been able to be achieved here. I just wish there were more episodes, seeing as the manga has more than 100 chapters out, the adaptation could've had more episodes. Can't wait for the second season. (if there's gonna be one) 10/10 |
| Good all around. I especially like how the last arc played out. The contrast between the 1st and 2nd exams. The 1st was one where there was a decent chance of passing, but also the risk of death. The examiner isn't harsh with quantity of people able to pass his exam, but is harsh with allowing promising mages to die, potentially even from bad luck. Ubel (who eventually got through all 3 rounds) could have died if Wirbel felt slightly different. He insists First Class Mages need both skill and luck. Then the 2nd exam with Sense. She's a "pacifist", who will do whatever possibly to avoid anyone dying in her exam. But then her exams historically have a much lower pass rate. The contrast of easier exam but you could die vs harder exam where extra precaution is taken for your safety is so interesting, I can't think of anything like it I've seen. Usually, difficulty is associated with danger. The examinees were "scared" when they were notified Sense would be in charge of the 2nd exam, not for their life but simply for the high chance of failure. I also liked the teamwork used to get through it. More interesting to me than the Naruto version of beating clones which was just "fight your own clone and improve second on second to surpass them". Then all this flowed into the "anticlimactic" 3rd exam where Serie basically had to clean up the mess Sense created. I was wondering how they would deal with the fact clearly weaker mages were carried through by the nature of the team event. Serie just giving them a vibe check was a funny solution, but her words also do carry weight given her station. I didn't even expect this anime to have an exam arc and it's probably the best one in any anime I've seen. |
| Either Ubel really wants that spell or she really wants that MAN .. perhaps both but girl's persistent either way |
| I started this series by chance, and I can say that it was the most beautiful coincidence that has ever happened to me. |
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| It can be boring for some of you but as an iyashikei fan, i am glad i watched this. Beautifully directed and written bittersweet story. My only complain was comedy parts. They felt like studio didn't put the required amount of effort to these scenes. Other than that i enjoyed every second of this anime. |
Muito bom namoral vai se fuder |
| One of my most beautiful experiences |
| Please watch Sword Art Online Progressive, it's the peak of SAO. |
| Finally here at the end, took about 2 and a half weeks which for me is pretty good for a show this long, it feels like yesterday I was all like “as it ends for everyone else, I’m just now getting to it” but now I’m part the same club lol. This final episode wasn’t the best of the show but it was a great one for the finale, we got to see Serie interview the mages that were a cut above the ones she immediately failed before, and while I am kinda mad for those she failed as the test was simply flawed, I do get why they weren’t allowed to pass. That being said I was surprised to see her pass all of the other mages, I liked each scene which was unique to each character, Methode was kinda funny in how she passed but I kinda get it because I get Yoda vibes from Serie’s design lol, but you also had Land’s scene which was honestly galaxy brain on his part, the man was never even there from the start lmao, he’s the smartest person in the show up to this point. My only fear for Land tho, is that Übel may have used her privilege to get a spell to find where he actually is, as much as I like to think she’s too dumb to realize I also think we aren’t that lucky lol, perhaps if there’s ever another season we’ll find out. Besides the Serie stuff tho, I liked both scenes which showed how the hero’s party heavily influenced two of the mages, being Denken and Wirbel, I’m glad we got backstory for both as I liked both of them a lot. That bit with Lernen was good too, I had a feeling he was there to fight when that first shot of him appeared, I’m just glad he listened to reason with Frieren instead of being unhinged, I guess Serie’s tsundere-ness is hurting those around her lol. And Fern ended up picking a spell that makes clothes clean, a very fitting choice for her and honestly very smart as that will save lots of time, and after a quick farewell from Kanne and Lawine we got one last Himmel flashback with a very nice quote to end on, “it would be embarrassing when we meet again”, I like that. And now I am left with no more Frieren like everyone who watched it weekly, it feels kinda good being here too lol, I can say I watched Frieren although I missed it as part of my Fall 2023 and Winter 2024 anime seasons, I know this would have been a banger weekly watch and I’m kinda mad at myself for not making time for this, but at least I still watched it, I can say that lol. I can easily see why this was so popular now, it may not be a 10/10 for me personally but I can certainly see why one would want to give it that score, it was a banger show, super well made by Madhouse and the story has been great from what we’ve seen of it, I can say I loved both the chill SoL parts of the show as well as the intense shonen-like parts, I really liked it all. And it really was made by the characters, there were so many good ones in this show, not just Frieren and her party but the side characters too, especially here in this last arc where we got to know some of them. And comparing the OPs, I think I do like the 2nd OP more but both were awesome, YAOSOBI may be a bit overrated but they know how to make a good jam, and both ED versions were great too, although they were the same song I think I preferred the 2nd ED more as I liked the visuals more and that verse of the song was very triumphant and fitting for the 2nd half of the show. And just so this essay doesn’t get any longer I’ll end it there, I’d like a Season 2 for this 100% but I could easily see this being another great show that deserved one but never got one, I hope we get it someday tho as maybe then I’ll be there weekly, I’d like to be part of that hype lol. |
| @Garrett_Dark Very nice writeup. I think the question if Fern is a Mary Sue deserves its own thread. Would be a very interesting discussion. Generally, I agree with you, she is very Mary Sue-ish. Also she is getting more annoying. But at the same time neither these are completely out of character. Here are some of my thoughs: Fern's annoying personality: Fern clearly displays strong personality issues from the very start. Refusing training when Heiter collapses is a very strong early hint that she is not "normal" emotionally. In the tomb Sense's first comment is how wierd Fern is personality wise. And Fern admits to Sense that she lost her "passion" when Heiter died - which points to a major personality issue as well. Plus consider the MANY years of emotional abuse Frieren inflicted on Fern since they traveled together. Searching for a flower for 6months, being irresponsible, not caring about other's time, etc. Fern voices many of these frustrations early on too. To me Fern's wierd personality is actually something that is VERY consistent from the very start. It is annoying yes, but it has been there from the start. I also do not see the anime forcing the romance angle with Stark. Their interactions are consistently "abusive" from the first day Fern and Stark meets. And most of their early interactions are also quite in line. I agree some of the later episode "abuse" stuff is less funny then the early ones, but strictly speaking, Fern is messed up from the very start, and Stark picks up on this also from the very start and is on the defensive since the moment they meet. On the plus side, Fern's dynamic with Stark produced a LOT of memes! And meme's are life! :D Fern being a Mary Sue: This can be explained more through a lookback approach. We learn mid anime that Frieren explained to Heiter her mana suppression strategy and its clear that Heiter taught that to Fern as a child, cause by the time Frieren shows up, Fern's control over mana, and mana suppression/hiding is highly advanced. She also trains with autistic determination, even refusing to stop when Heiter collapses. And Frieren comments she learned 10yrs worth of stuff in 4 years. So there is a nice explanation for Fern being strong from the start. But possibly an even bigger hint is when Sense in the tomb comments that Fern is the most talented young mage she ever saw and that Fern must have gone through "many trainings". So maybe in Frieren's world - the magic training's quality (how good the master is) - is way more important then born talent. Serie also hints at this when she says "so Frieren coached you". Flamme being Serie's apprentice and becoming legendary also points to having a very strong master to teach you must matter a lot. Same with Lernen/Ehre. Also, when Lugner is blindsided by Fern four times: First with the "human mage evading Linie's detection" then the "demon killing magic Zoltarak", then Fern's speed of casting comment "how did you teach this girl Frieren" and finally mana surpression "so Frieren does the same". We see Lugner attributing Fern's skill to Frieren's teaching repeatedly. Then we get the comment during Fern/Ehre fight about "my master only wants me to use ordinary offensive magic" which also points to teaching strategy being important. So yes, Fern is very Mary Sue-ish, but I personally enjoyed most of Fern's Mary Sue moments, as they pointed to how well / wierdly Frieren was teaching Fern. So it felt like Fern's enemies are actually fighting Frieren and that always made me chuckle, and I also felt the show was reinforcing that feeling through the inner voice of Fern's enemies. |
| This might be a tired opinion but Frieren was very much another Violet Evergarden to me. Not just in the superficial 'mute girl on medieval journey' way but in the sense that it was visually a masterpiece while being marginally less impactful narrative wise I'm not trying to say the show lacks substance, there's plenty of 'substance' scattered here and there, though I think the main message it tried to convey got slightly repetitive by the end. I did feel considerably less artistic stimulation from the character dynamics and plotlines compared to other shows I loved though. Ultimately I did like the characters enough to ship them, which is more than what I can say for VE so in that aspect this was better. I maintain the slight disdain towards the battle arc, I appreciate that they took the time to justify it in-universe but it still felt rather forced to include hype mage fights in the story. Having said that some of the fights were absolutely insane to watch so perhaps it was worth it 8-9/10 overall |
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This might be a tired opinion but Frieren was very much another Violet Evergarden to me. Not just in the superficial 'mute girl on medieval journey' way but in the sense that it was visually a masterpiece while being marginally less impactful narrative wise
I'm not trying to say the show lacks substance, there's plenty of 'substance' scattered here and there, though I think the main message it tried to convey got slightly repetitive by the end. I did feel considerably less artistic stimulation from the character dynamics and plotlines compared to other shows I loved though. Ultimately I did like the characters enough to ship them, which is more than what I can say for VE so in that aspect this was better.
I maintain the slight disdain towards the battle arc, I appreciate that they took the time to justify it in-universe but it still felt rather forced to include hype mage fights in the story. Having said that some of the fights were absolutely insane to watch so perhaps it was worth it
8-9/10 overall
I'm not trying to say the show lacks substance, there's plenty of 'substance' scattered here and there, though I think the main message it tried to convey got slightly repetitive by the end. I did feel considerably less artistic stimulation from the character dynamics and plotlines compared to other shows I loved though. Ultimately I did like the characters enough to ship them, which is more than what I can say for VE so in that aspect this was better.
I maintain the slight disdain towards the battle arc, I appreciate that they took the time to justify it in-universe but it still felt rather forced to include hype mage fights in the story. Having said that some of the fights were absolutely insane to watch so perhaps it was worth it
8-9/10 overall
| I have a love/hate relationship with the mage exam arc too. But the parts I love were really worth it. Serie's character is slowly revealed through the exam, and I loved it how it evolved from Richter's initial explanation of this "evil" ancient super-elf making mages fight to the death for a spell of their wish, to what she really was by the end of the exam. Also throughout the arc there were the usual superb Frieren moments, like when Frieren turns to stone on the shore of the lake or when she took back the Stille with some ice-cold domination, or Denken going fist fighting, Stark and the old man, etc. etc. And I cannot deny that throughout the mage exam cycle the cliff hangers were always painfully effective, and the episodes felt like they were over in 10min. So I am willing to "forgive" a lot of the hype mage fights, and Fern's pouting. :) |
| So, anyone have an explanation how exactly Land's clone magic did not fail the moment the clones entered the magic barrier during stage 1 of the test? I would think that the barrier would block magic as well as matter from the both sides. |
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So, anyone have an explanation how exactly Land's clone magic did not fail the moment the clones entered the magic barrier during stage 1 of the test? I would think that the barrier would block magic as well as matter from the both sides.
| @rmcold Genau at the start of the first mage exam says "if anyone leaves the test area" their party fails. So the barrier doesn't prevent mages from entering/exiting. On the flip side we clearly see the barrier is blocking Denken's magic. I would speculate (anime only) that: 1. Land uses the same type of magic as Spiegel - the tomb boss demon. So outside control while inside the barrier might not be required, as the Land clones inside the barrier are just as capable as Land himself. 2. Land's clones could be capable of chaining - so a clone can spawn/control a sub-clone. But if 1 above is true that is not even required. |
| It was really good, almost perfect. I really enjoyed the ending song and how both the 1st and 2nd song where linked. |
| manifesting season 2 energy please. |
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