Am I the only one who fucking hates panty shots?

@Tropisch I'm not offended, I'm disturbed. You're like 30 years old defending why panty shots in anime with HIGH SCHOOLERS are fine, you're the prime example of what I'm talking about. Weirdo. And oh, the irony of you attacking me for "being offended" when my comment offended you too. Strange.

I think somebody is dealing with some heavy-duty repression here.

@rsc-pl

Forcefully gatekept lol.
Now tell me how you want to achieve that.

It's also so funny how people like this act like it's only the woke and feminists online, who are disgusted by lot of anime, and it's not the majority of the population, who thinks anime consist of sexualized teenagers... or at least anime that do are awful.
My boss and other people I knew hated the idea of anime until I showed him Pluto, Ghost in the Shell and Attack on Titan, because guess what, most people with mid 20s, 30s + neither want to nor have the time to look at a drawn child's ass in their freetime, and people's ideas of what they find attractive usually grow with them as they age themselves.

Btw I'm very open about loving (some) anime, because I just love to talk what I'm into and how else could I show them otherwise that there are lot of others that are not stereotypical anime.

The word I used is "innate" not "inane", though "benign" is closer to my intent of phrasing. It isn't in every case meant to be sexually suggestive. Complete nudity wouldn't inherently be sexual either. It all depends on context and intent and the view of the viewer. It doesn't matter what you think because it doesn't change the fact if someone doesn't have something be a major detriment to their life that thing isn't counted toward diagnostic of mental illness. No one here is saying "loving anime panty shots is ruining my life". Just stop watching shows where there obviously will be any sexuality if it bothers you so much.

@traed Describing ecchi content as "innate" to the medium is like saying that movies being black and white is "innate" to all old films. You are assigning objectivity to a highly subjective thing. You have to realise that, although you think of anime as a quirky hobby you occasionally rub your cock to, it is a contemporary form of art. Sexually explicit material is not inherent to that form of art. This is also not to mention that there's hundreds of examples of anime that don't contain such things, and they're far better off for it. You're essentially implying that it's not real anime if it has no suggestive elements within it (I understand that's not what you're saying explicitly but that would be the ultimate result of your poorly thought out view).

Also, describing it as "benign" is laughable. Just recently we had people encouraging a teenager to watch a pretty sexually explicit show on this hellhole. Do you seriously think that's not harmful to a developing psyche? Not to mention that being teased by something that resembles a woman, be it for "comedy" (which is often not funny and even awkward for most that are not used to constantly being exposed to moaning anime girls) or some other less-than-innocent purpose has a damaging effect on you also, whether you realise it or not. As I've mentioned in my reply to the other cave-dweller, ecchi is derivative of porn which is an inherently harmful piece of media. Just because something is not exactly its own source material doesn't mean that suddenly all of the qualities the source itself possessed (degenerative, regressive, exploitative, etc) are not present within the derivation itself, or that they've somehow been entirely inverted.

Also, please remember that you're not the only person on this Earth. What you consume and do with yourself can either be an active benefit or an active detriment to all communities and environments you find yourself in. Acting as if the consumption of such things is entirely private and isolated from the rest of the world is incredibly immature, not to mention ignorant and egotistical.

I agree that not all instances of, for example, nudity are sexually suggestive. I only have qualms with the instances in which it is. In some cases it or adjacent things even leak into stuff that is not presented as such nor is it meant to be that at all. It's a little stupid to think that all things that contain suggestive material within them will either advertise themselves as such or will have a notice regarding that somewhere within their description or reputation.

Also, no, it doesn't depend on the "view of the viewer". Ass in your face is ass in your face, whether you're a coomer buried in his gooncave or a nun. It is clear what the intent of showing it and adjacent things is. Trying to dodge that fact with "well everything is subjective and nothing actually means anything" is just cope to make your own failures as a human being more palatable to your poor ego.

What counts towards the diagnostic of a mental illness is the degenerative force and stupidity that it takes to arrive at the point which you have found yourself in. You seriously lack self-awareness.

@Kamikaze_404 uhhhh... are you vegan? I think the anime culture is just not for you. No need to force yourself.

@Kamikaze_404 uhhhh... are you vegan? I think the anime culture is just not for you. No need to force yourself.

I think a deranged religious zealot would more accurately describe someone who wishes to purge all forms of sexuality from media entertainment. As in anyone who has some idea what is acceptable or what not and tries to make it like their opinions and beliefs matters more than others for the sake of trying to hold firm on some higher moral ground when it's obvious they are on a crusade without a cause.

Calling out this Users as a "Vegan" would be an insult to all Vegans.

I think a deranged religious zealot would more accurately describe someone who wishes to purge all forms of sexuality from media entertainment. As in anyone who has some idea what is acceptable or what not and tries to make it like their opinions and beliefs matters more than others for the sake of trying to hold firm on some higher moral ground when it's obvious they are on a crusade without a cause.

Calling out this Users as a "Vegan" would be an insult to all Vegans.

@ColourWheel Never said all sexuality should be purged from media, just degenerate representations of it. Imagine getting branded a religious nut for not liking porn... What a world.

@ColourWheel She'd have more money for bulls.

@Kamikaze_404

The fact now you are now resorting to personally attacking my real life Wife, only shows how immature you really are and why no one should take you seriously.

@ColourWheel I'm not attacking your wife, I'm attacking you.
Not to mention, I'm sure the law and faceless organisations are the best things to use to make your point. Morality isn't determined by age ratings nor are age ratings and the brainlets behind them a good way to deboonk anything that I've said. I hope you can see how stupid that is and how it's not really worth addressing properly.

@Kamikaze_404 uhhhh... are you vegan? I think the anime culture is just not for you. No need to force yourself.

@Kamikaze_404

Personally attacking anyone is immature in itself. If you are wanting to be taken seriously in any form of debate it should be a given to refrain from such behavior.

If you want to talk about morality, no one gives a shit about your personal moral standards. Cultural and social norms are not universal. What one deems immoral to one person could be seen as completely normal to another.

All you have been doing here is whining and bitching about stuff that quite frankly you can easily avoid if you wanted to. The world doesn't revolve around you or your personal beliefs.

@ColourWheel I don't really take you seriously, I don't see why I should actually care about your view of me lol.

Also, morality is objective whether you like it or not. Although small things like what gesture you use to show something to someone are arbitrary, recognizing degenerative forces and such draws from an objective moral standard that would exist even without us as observers in this world.

Cry.