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Reply to LSSJ_Chloe
It is good to criticize problematic and questionable aspects of the media you consume in general. A lot of anime do have issues that should be discussed and addressed instead of ignored as if you discuss and address them, it helps potentially lead to the problems that are showing up to appear less.
| @LSSJ_Gaming Fuck no, what makes anime unique is that it it's creators aren't afraid to make these things you tourists call "problematic". If anime was safe and sterile it'd be boring as fuck. |
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Reply to LSSJ_Chloe
It is good to criticize problematic and questionable aspects of the media you consume in general. A lot of anime do have issues that should be discussed and addressed instead of ignored as if you discuss and address them, it helps potentially lead to the problems that are showing up to appear less.
| @LSSJ_Gaming typical tourist response full of all the right Twitter buzzwords. This response is exactly why gatekeeping still needs to be a thing. |
| F. them all. They should dealing with real issues. Like pedophile circles among some celebrities and other influential people. They pick on anime because it's an easy target and can distract from really important matters. |
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Reply to LSSJ_Chloe
It is good to criticize problematic and questionable aspects of the media you consume in general. A lot of anime do have issues that should be discussed and addressed instead of ignored as if you discuss and address them, it helps potentially lead to the problems that are showing up to appear less.
| @LSSJ_Gaming That's a fair point. Things can't get better if no one points out what hurts a show. Toxic peeps will try and drag the conversations into the mud, but persevering through through their trash has brought progress to many pieces of media over the decades! |
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| Don't care. Is the author a weirdo? Yes. Should we censor our media even more, just because some people are upset? No. Also: Nobody made the decision to "go mainstream" Some things just reach a level of popularity, that even people outside of the bubble watch them. But I think Anime away from Attack on Titan or Demon Slayer is still pretty undisvorered, by most people |
Merve2LoveNov 25, 2023 2:22 PM
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| Far as I can tell there is no Made in Abyss Controversy. I criticized it (the second season) for all the same reasons A YEAR AGO and pointed out the focus on certain gruesome/disgusting aspects as unnecessary, and apart from a couple of triggered fans, have had zero actual conversations about it. I DGAF if some users replied to make a thread popular on reddit. With this as the subject. Don't care, have never cared, about reddit. What else is new? How bout them Packers? |
| What Made in Abyss controversy? Last time I heard about that series people were pointing out blatant pedo shit in its second season, which to be honest made me lose interest in the series altogether despite having enjoyed S1, but that was like, a long time ago? |
| Who are you and why do you show your hostility towards a complete stranger whom you've not once spoken with before. Are you seriously asking to get blocked? Well, if that's what your intent is; to tempt me into throwing hands with someone as lowly and insignificant as you, then i may grant your wish provided you articulate yourself a bit better when trying to spite a person of my wavelength. |
Reply to kratos960203
@LSSJ_Gaming
in this case it's not criticism but full blown attack. I know anime has it's issues so every other medium and talking things out is a great way but in anime or manga case it's always devolves in cease pool of toxicity
LSSJ_Gaming said:
It is good to criticize problematic and questionable aspects of the media you consume in general. A lot of anime do have issues that should be discussed and addressed instead of ignored as if you discuss and address them, it helps potentially lead to the problems that are showing up to appear less.
It is good to criticize problematic and questionable aspects of the media you consume in general. A lot of anime do have issues that should be discussed and addressed instead of ignored as if you discuss and address them, it helps potentially lead to the problems that are showing up to appear less.
in this case it's not criticism but full blown attack. I know anime has it's issues so every other medium and talking things out is a great way but in anime or manga case it's always devolves in cease pool of toxicity
| @kratos960203 I don't know the full context on what is really going on with Made in Abyss so I can't really make an informed judgement on what the controversy is. If its something like "the art isn't 1 to 1 with the source" or "the sky is too blue" that would just be an attack for no reason, but if its some actual issue with the material itself that wouldn't really be an attack |
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Reply to traed
@LSSJ_Gaming
Media doesn't shape people's views as much as it is a reflection of it and reality. Otherwise all the grumpy old people long ago would have been able to prove rock n roll causes violent crime and videogames causes violent crime and rap causes violent crime but evidence shows it can actually work against that in some cases actually due to being an outlet. There were people in the distant past ranting about the existence of books even because why not just use your imagination and memory and have your elders tell you how it is.
On top of that depiction is not the same as narrative encouragement and approval from an author or artist. Often you can equally get something in a polarizing view to how a character sees things so nothing is really inherent unless it is presenting itself as more than just entertainment but something accurately informative when it is anything but that. Also you can separate the creation of someone and that person in themselves as well as those creations and their fans.
Media doesn't shape people's views as much as it is a reflection of it and reality. Otherwise all the grumpy old people long ago would have been able to prove rock n roll causes violent crime and videogames causes violent crime and rap causes violent crime but evidence shows it can actually work against that in some cases actually due to being an outlet. There were people in the distant past ranting about the existence of books even because why not just use your imagination and memory and have your elders tell you how it is.
On top of that depiction is not the same as narrative encouragement and approval from an author or artist. Often you can equally get something in a polarizing view to how a character sees things so nothing is really inherent unless it is presenting itself as more than just entertainment but something accurately informative when it is anything but that. Also you can separate the creation of someone and that person in themselves as well as those creations and their fans.
| @traed It's more framing that is the thing. You can portray a negative thing in a work to strengthen the themes, but you should be careful not to glorify them, or use a bad thing and paint it as a positive. Anime struggles a lot with portraying a lot of sexual assault and sexual depictions of children in a positive way which is....not good for example. You can criticize and call out stuff like that when it is done like that |
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Reply to Merve2Love
Don't care.
Is the author a weirdo? Yes.
Should we censor our media even more, just because some people are upset? No.
Also: Nobody made the decision to "go mainstream"
Some things just reach a level of popularity, that even people outside of the bubble watch them.
But I think Anime away from Attack on Titan or Demon Slayer is still pretty undisvorered, by most people
Is the author a weirdo? Yes.
Should we censor our media even more, just because some people are upset? No.
Also: Nobody made the decision to "go mainstream"
Some things just reach a level of popularity, that even people outside of the bubble watch them.
But I think Anime away from Attack on Titan or Demon Slayer is still pretty undisvorered, by most people
| @Merve2Love Not really there are certain factors that control people outside themselves such as the design of websites and streaming platforms, advertising, algorithms, tampered search engine results, and media coverage. All these are results of decisions. Sometimes it's an unexpected result but other times it can be fully planned. |
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Reply to Tropisch
@LSSJ_Gaming Fuck no, what makes anime unique is that it it's creators aren't afraid to make these things you tourists call "problematic". If anime was safe and sterile it'd be boring as fuck.
| @Tropisch Calling someone a tourist for being critical of media is the most brain dead thing I have ever heard. |
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Reply to traed
@Merve2Love
Not really there are certain factors that control people outside themselves such as the design of websites and streaming platforms, advertising, algorithms, tampered search engine results, and media coverage. All these are results of decisions. Sometimes it's an unexpected result but other times it can be fully planned.
Not really there are certain factors that control people outside themselves such as the design of websites and streaming platforms, advertising, algorithms, tampered search engine results, and media coverage. All these are results of decisions. Sometimes it's an unexpected result but other times it can be fully planned.
| @traed Yes. Anime is a product and therefore it will be advertised and treated as one. But this is not what's making them mainstream. Nobody makes an active decision to better stay underground, for example xD ...Sometimes a Show just takes off, with the help of the people working on it, that's all. |
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Reply to billybub
@LSSJ_Gaming typical tourist response full of all the right Twitter buzzwords. This response is exactly why gatekeeping still needs to be a thing.
| @billybub Calling someone a tourist for being critical of media is stupid, and saying "gatekeeping is good" because you don't agree with someone is so stupid. If you genuinely believe that, you should grow the fuck up. Criticism and being critical of the media you consume is a good thing and if you don't believe that you are genuinely anti-intelluctual and a consumerist who can't accept that the media you like has flaws. |
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Reply to ToumaTachibana
Any Anime controversy is just simply mask-off racism against Japanese people.
| @Nurguburu How the fuck is being critical of a piece of media just because it's from another country racism? |
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Reply to LSSJ_Chloe
@traed
It's more framing that is the thing. You can portray a negative thing in a work to strengthen the themes, but you should be careful not to glorify them, or use a bad thing and paint it as a positive. Anime struggles a lot with portraying a lot of sexual assault and sexual depictions of children in a positive way which is....not good for example. You can criticize and call out stuff like that when it is done like that
It's more framing that is the thing. You can portray a negative thing in a work to strengthen the themes, but you should be careful not to glorify them, or use a bad thing and paint it as a positive. Anime struggles a lot with portraying a lot of sexual assault and sexual depictions of children in a positive way which is....not good for example. You can criticize and call out stuff like that when it is done like that
| @LSSJ_Gaming Usually there is no true framing. The framing is in your own mind in how you take something but art is not inherent in having only one meaning even if there is an intended meaning by it's creator and even if they stated it out flat, some others can still take something entirely different from it. Calling something "problematic" or a "struggle" doesn't make it an objective truth. You should never call to destroy that which you do not understand when it comes to things people just enjoy on their own and really doesnt effect you. Burden of proof rests on you to actually back up your claims something actually causes more problems than it solves instead of spouting rhetoric. One is better off asking for more of something that is like what one likes rather than the elimination of everything one does not like especially if one doesn't understand it. |
traedNov 25, 2023 9:14 PM
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Reply to traed
@LSSJ_Gaming
Usually there is no true framing. The framing is in your own mind in how you take something but art is not inherent in having only one meaning even if there is an intended meaning by it's creator and even if they stated it out flat, some others can still take something entirely different from it. Calling something "problematic" or a "struggle" doesn't make it an objective truth. You should never call to destroy that which you do not understand when it comes to things people just enjoy on their own and really doesnt effect you. Burden of proof rests on you to actually back up your claims something actually causes more problems than it solves instead of spouting rhetoric. One is better off asking for more of something that is like what one likes rather than the elimination of everything one does not like especially if one doesn't understand it.
Usually there is no true framing. The framing is in your own mind in how you take something but art is not inherent in having only one meaning even if there is an intended meaning by it's creator and even if they stated it out flat, some others can still take something entirely different from it. Calling something "problematic" or a "struggle" doesn't make it an objective truth. You should never call to destroy that which you do not understand when it comes to things people just enjoy on their own and really doesnt effect you. Burden of proof rests on you to actually back up your claims something actually causes more problems than it solves instead of spouting rhetoric. One is better off asking for more of something that is like what one likes rather than the elimination of everything one does not like especially if one doesn't understand it.
| @traed Not really. The framing is how a thing is presented in a show. For example, if something has negative consequences in a show, it is framed as a negative action, when if it is framed with no or positive consequences, it is framed as a positive action. That's literally just how art is. Criticizing a show for framing certain toxic and dangerous behaviors as positive is valid criticism. |
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Reply to LSSJ_Chloe
@traed
Not really. The framing is how a thing is presented in a show. For example, if something has negative consequences in a show, it is framed as a negative action, when if it is framed with no or positive consequences, it is framed as a positive action. That's literally just how art is. Criticizing a show for framing certain toxic and dangerous behaviors as positive is valid criticism.
Not really. The framing is how a thing is presented in a show. For example, if something has negative consequences in a show, it is framed as a negative action, when if it is framed with no or positive consequences, it is framed as a positive action. That's literally just how art is. Criticizing a show for framing certain toxic and dangerous behaviors as positive is valid criticism.
| @LSSJ_Gaming Yes it can be framed that way but that doesnt mean the viewer will take from it the same view as the framing is what I meant. Sometimes something is just depicted neutrally too. Just stating an opinion on something is just that an opinion and when it's an opinion that is completely the commonly expressed view there isn't really something being added. It's comparable to putting a thimble of water in a lake during a heavy flood level rains and saying the lake was replenished by the thimble. Do we need to go on about the problematic nature of serial killers because slasher films? Also before you werent just talking about talking about things but literally ending them under the unfounded reasoning it would end i in reality unless I misunderstood from how you phrased it. Take for example how censored American media was decades in the past and every sitcom was this fake perfect family where all their problems get quickly solved, it didnt end crime or make most people into better persons. Things in media can be used as an opening invite to talk about something in society but talking about the media itself reflecting that society instead is completely tone deaf because it doesnt translate to our world because we all know it isnt real. |
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@Tropisch
Calling someone a tourist for being critical of media is the most brain dead thing I have ever heard.
Calling someone a tourist for being critical of media is the most brain dead thing I have ever heard.
| @LSSJ_Gaming Much like all the shit you spout is brain dead, see I can do this too. You're free to stop watching anime if fiction is too much for your sensitive self. |
TropischNov 26, 2023 3:01 PM
| "Well, she's flatter than a pancake" -Mimi Alpacas |
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@billybub
Calling someone a tourist for being critical of media is stupid, and saying "gatekeeping is good" because you don't agree with someone is so stupid. If you genuinely believe that, you should grow the fuck up. Criticism and being critical of the media you consume is a good thing and if you don't believe that you are genuinely anti-intelluctual and a consumerist who can't accept that the media you like has flaws.
Calling someone a tourist for being critical of media is stupid, and saying "gatekeeping is good" because you don't agree with someone is so stupid. If you genuinely believe that, you should grow the fuck up. Criticism and being critical of the media you consume is a good thing and if you don't believe that you are genuinely anti-intelluctual and a consumerist who can't accept that the media you like has flaws.
| @LSSJ_Gaming lol not only are you a tourist, but a raging hypocrite. Let me guess you watched all that loli and shota hentai for "research". |
| I'm not in the loop when it comes to such things, but it's not surprising. I can imagine what kind of "controversies" these are, and I think that calling them stupid is more than justified. The unfortunate side effect of becoming more mainstream indeed. Someone is getting cancelled for mentioning/recommending an "unsafe" anime? Oh wow, it's even more ridiculous than I expected. I have yet to watch Made in Abyss, but I just don't understand why something that could potentially feel shocking/disgusting/traumatizing etc. is a bad thing, and why people are so obsessed with censoring and bullying everything into oblivion. It's just a part of the whole experience! Sometimes I want to suffer and be traumatized, sometimes I want to feel happy and drown in cuteness, sometimes I want to be weirded out and intrigued etc. The colorful palette of emotions, thoughts and impressions is what makes the journey worth it! In any case, what I'm sure about is that I always want authors to create what they genuinely want to create, regardless of whether I'll love it or hate it. I don't want them bullied, controlled or otherwise aggressively influenced by any kind of "thought police" or "moral police", and I'll always be happy to praise or complain about my experiences with said works in return, not to organize a crusade to "fix" something in some medium, anime or otherwise, that wasn't broken to begin with. And who is supposed to determine what needs "fixing" in the first place? Different people have different standards. It can only lead to someone imposing their will on others. If it's not censorship, then I don't know what is. This topic also indirectly reminded me of people who bash or downvote Killing Stalking because someone else perceives it as a love story. They aren't assessing their own personal experiences, they aren't trying to be dispassionate and assess its quality in some way - they just refer to someone else's supposed perception, which has nothing to do with them whatsoever! How does that make any sense? Anyway, I can rant forever, but I'll stop lol it's not like I said anything particularly new or important anyway. |
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@-YaoiBoy- wow what a beautiful response although i have also read killing stalking but didn't know it caught in controversy
| @kratos960203 Thanks for calling it beautiful :) and thank you for creating a wonderful topic (I also like your Kaneki profile picture :p). There was definitely a controversy about it back in the day in general, but I've noticed a certain pattern when it comes to Killing Stalking and how a lot of people comment on it, rate it, review it etc., even here on MAL. It usually starts with something like "Firstly, it's not a BL, but a horrible story full of abuse that the fandom glorifies blah-blah-blah", which is usually followed by some accusatory ranting. Again, almost nothing about their own impressions or thoughts, just "fans horrible" this and "fans annoying" that. It's like they go in with wrong expectations, then they're getting horrified by the psychological horror aspect of it and all the brutality, and then they choose to have a "revenge" on the manhwa itself because they saw someone else making it out to be a love story. It genuinely pisses me off a lot because I think it's simply unfair to blame and trash the work itself into oblivion instead of directing your anger at certain fans if that's where your problem lies. Trash Killing Stalking only if you genuinely hate it for what it is, not because some people have a certain perception of it! That's basically what I'm trying to say :) |
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@-YaoiBoy- thanks for info and yeah if people don't like they should not watch it. btw you should also try slow damage really good vn.
| @kratos960203 Yessss I've been saving it as a New Year present for myself :3 I'm extremely excited to finally play Slow Damage. But thanks for mentioning it anyway! It's always nice to see someone who knows about Nitro+Chiral BL VNs, Slow Damage or otherwise. |
| How do you guys feel about anime controversies? I'm sick of it. |
| I need somebody who can love me at my worst No, I'm not perfect, but I hope you see my worth 'Cause it's only you, nobody new, I put you first And for you, girl, I swear I'll do the worst If you stay forever, let me hold your hand I can fill those places in your heart no else can Let me show you love, oh, I don't pretend, yeah I'll be right here, baby, you know I'll sink or swim |
| What doesn't concern me, doesn't concern me, I try to not stick my head into useless bull like that, NOT consuming negativity makes life far better, just saying. |
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-YaoiBoy- said:
@kratos960203
Yessss I've been saving it as a New Year present for myself :3 I'm extremely excited to finally play Slow Damage. But thanks for mentioning it anyway! It's always nice to see someone who knows about Nitro+Chiral BL VNs, Slow Damage or otherwise.
@kratos960203
Yessss I've been saving it as a New Year present for myself :3 I'm extremely excited to finally play Slow Damage. But thanks for mentioning it anyway! It's always nice to see someone who knows about Nitro+Chiral BL VNs, Slow Damage or otherwise.
yeah i watch all kinds of things regardless of genres and themes and things are different from my comfort zone or usual taste doesn't bother me. I have seen some danmei animation, bl vns and comics. NGL they are really good in their on regard fav piece i would say for me is grandmaster of demonic cultivation and slow damage have a good happy new year
| @kratos960203 Same :) I also like to experience all kinds of things, regardless of whether they conform to my usual preferences or not. I don't think I've heard of Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation, maybe I'll check it out sometime :) Thanks for the wishes! Have a great time as well ^_^ |
| Made in Abyss is my favorite anime, but I think people can and should feel free to criticze the lolis/shotas and the execution of fanservice and themes in the show (even if I don’t agree with it). It’s subjective so everyone is allowed to think what they want of the show. However, being aggressive and calling people pedophiles for liking a show is inexcusable. I would like to just ignore it, but it’s becoming a big issue as anime becomes more mainstream. Even sites like myfigurecollection are becoming overridden with this stance on loli/shota which is a huge part of otaku culture, like it or not. I’d much rather have people just ignore what they don’t like rather than moral crusading others. |
| Couldn't care less about them. No real life baggage is my fiction please. They are separate things. |
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