| Hard to say as in my country it doesn't seem to be that large to be even considered as counter or even dominant culture, due to accessibility to Anime and stuff related to it, it isn't that easy to watch anime [although from what I heard we might have here a better access to manga than even Western Europe, not sure just heard stuff like this cause I don't read manga I ain't visiting stores with Manga so I can't tell personally] In the internet it isn't as large as I would like, the only time when I realise that there are people who enjoy watching anime/reading manga in Poland is whenever I go to Pyrkon cause the amount of people cosplaying and participating in Anime/Manga related sections and stuff reminds me that it isn't that small as I see it but still I don't think it is as large to be even compared to other sub-cultures/cultures/popcultures existing there. Nonetheless I think it begins to change as anime rarely appears in cinemas aswell as in Netflix aswell as Japanese bands begin to appear in Pyrkon for concerts, Mili and Luna Haruna were in this year [This was Mili's first time in Europe btw] and next year there will be Burnout Syndromes so maybe with concerts and some cinema screening it will grow up into a larger culture. [Just to make sure Pyrkon is the multigenre convention so it is not only dedicated to anime/games but for literally almost everything I'd say] [I wasn't interested in Luna's concert so no idea how it went, at Mili it was a fire unfortunately the recordings will not show you the strength of the audio and basses as I was in 7th row from the stage very close, some of the basses felt like a bullet to crush my organs and ears but it was worth] |
| Certainly, if you have any respect for Elon Musk whatsoever, you have nothing to do with any counterculture. But there are still plenty of anime fans who are interested in the cultural products of other nations in a xenophilic way. There's a segment of fans who are highly reactionary, you know, the kind who complain about "wokeness" and "censorship" and so forth, there are also more casual viewers, but the traditional kind of fans have definitely not gone away |
| I think it's still kind of underground, outside of mainstream shows, but that has always been the case, even way back in the 90s. I think the more deeper aspects of it are still inherently underground. Like I can't see it ever being dominant culture to get a dakimakura, or something like that. |
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| I feel bad writing a short text here, but well even if when the "otaku" have a lot of members around the world, the people still finding that like something ashaming, so in my opinion we cant say otaku culture is dominant. |
| Depends on the context. Now in Japan, the word otaku has actually come to mean a fan of something. But speaking of otaku as geeks is still a tongue-in-cheek term at best. |
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| It's been mainstreamized alright, but geek culture isn't dead. It's skin is worn by the casuals, while it's soul thrives in websites like this (although some of the posts I see here make me wonder if that's a good thing lol). @logopolis I don't see what's wrong with complaining about censorship. The woke complaints are dumb, but censorship can fuck off. |
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| Bodypillows and tentacle rape are still seen with disgust, which is a good thing, you freaks should not be accepted |
Say-My-Name said: @logopolis I don't see what's wrong with complaining about censorship. The woke complaints are dumb, but censorship can fuck off. Nothing wrong with complaining about censorship. If an artist wants to do things one way, but is forced to do them another way because of the interference of some more powerful entity, that's generally bad. It's complaining about artistic decisions by misdescribing them as 'censorship' which is the problem. Which they do a lot. |
Sylpheline said: MrPro06 said: Dont i'm just horribly over talkative on stuff on my topics of interests. Yeah that kind of what makes me asked that found mainstream newpapers claiming otaku is dominant culture now while insulting even the most mainstream part of it every second with some sociologist caution which seemed to knew nothing of his subject and was just plain disdainful and i was like wait how is it dominant if members of dominant culture like university teachers and journalists can shit still (and be that clueless willingly about it with how long its been a thing here) on it so hard wtf? I feel bad writing a short text here, but well even if when the "otaku" have a lot of members around the world, the people still finding that like something ashaming, so in my opinion we cant say otaku culture is dominant. Thanks for your compression. Actually the social media is the main part where the "otaku" word comes out by users who dont know the actual meaning of the word. Meanwhile the people (a minority now) tend to bully because some people like one thing different than the usual. But I think with the time the term "otaku" will be more normal and more known, no? |
Sylpheline said: MrPro06 said: Well probably more and more as people get use to it but its still have kind of a negative connotation after decades of being there so debatable. Also debatable if its worth losing it as it would probably mean oversanitization.Thanks for your compression. Actually the social media is the main part where the "otaku" word comes out by users who dont know the actual meaning of the word. Meanwhile the people (a minority now) tend to bully because some people like one thing different than the usual. But I think with the time the term "otaku" will be more normal and more known, no? Wise words tbh, that term cant dissapear because some good things will dissapear if that happens, clearly |
| Antis are not part of otaku culture though, they are against it. |
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Sylpheline said: traed said: Antis? Antis who are against what? Sorry didnt understood. Antis are not part of otaku culture though, they are against it. An anti is just a broad term meaning someone that focuses their energy into being against something. In the context of anime an anti are the people that watch anime but constantly complain about common things in anime and want to make anime no longer be anime but just something more sterile |
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Sylpheline said: traed said: Ok i'm not english native speaker so sometime stuff escapes me in slang. Still not really get what exactly this very broad group complain about in anime that so common and so what anime is to its core that without it that wouldnt be anime anymore that said...well anime has a lot of inner variety...what they have all in common beside being japanese animated tv shows with often geeky plot (and even that one is far from always)? An anti is just a broad term meaning someone that focuses their energy into being against something. In the context of anime an anti are the people that watch anime but constantly complain about common things in anime and want to make anime no longer be anime but just something more sterile Im saying most people claiming to be anime fans are only into highly popular stuff that is completely non controversial and doesnt do anything that is in line with otaku culture which is how it becomes so popular to begin with and these are the same kind of people who will insult and trash talk otaku. So they are not part of otaku culture. Elon Musk is just one guy and that doesnt really show something being mainstream. |
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| @Sylpheline Id say it's more a self identification thing and level of activity in a community that determines if someone is an otaku. Otaku dont only like "otaku" shows, those just tend to be things with heavy references to other anime and manga often with lots of fanservice (which i should add fanservice has lost it's meaning among people here fanservice isnt necessarily something sexual). There is some other points I could add. Many Westerners dont do cosplay right. They think cosplay is merely wearing a costume even if you look and act noting like a character. They dont understand cosplay is about embodying a character either trying to look or act very much like the character. So even what small amount of people cosplaying many arent even cosplaying just wearing a costume. |
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| Otaku hardcore culture for sure still a counter culture imo. But wider anime culture is kind of drifting to being dominant i feel like. |
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| i think zoomer culture slowly becoming dominant brought with itself a culture of post-cringe, which is basically social permissiveness to an even larger extent, thus making things that millennials did in secret, and accused eachother of, and got bullied on the internet for, acceptable and im glad that society is going that way, we're simply more free to express ourselves i wouldnt say that otaku culture itself is part of the dominant culture, for some reason it feels a little bit too strong of a statement, id rephrase it and say that it became normalized to enjoy otaku culture related things - is it the same? i dont know, it sounds better to me, as otaku culture as it relates to its historical context seems kinda insular and more clearly defined, like the boundries of otakuness were clearer, and now there are no clear boundries to being an otaku, u know what i mean? does that make sense? also i think that because the boundries between cultures are being blurred more and more, some of the "magic" is gone, since this is no longer a more closed off space, but at the same time it is like totally normal and safe to be public about it, unlike in the past so i get why somebody might think its sad, but it inherently results in less social ostracization, and i kind of enjoy being myself in public, and talking about it to anybody without fear or judgement, and that was not the case before, right? |
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| culture war is a meme it is simply the cultural recuperation cycle. its how we get oxysemen |
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| I feel like it's not really neither in Finland at least. There's an audience for otaku culture but it mostly keeps within itself but I don't see it really countering anything either. I think it has kept some of that uniqueness while becoming more socially acceptable which I can't really view as a negative. Maybe I'm a part of this problem? Amityblight said: Sylpheline said: Yes pretty much that normies and casuals coming to anime and video game wouldnt be so much of a problem if for video game example hardcore gamers and casuals would be both well desserve but when mainstream normie casual video games so easy its boring became the majority and hardcore gamer stuff is harder and harder to find well i wont complain because i became more casual myself with video games while ago but that was at the time the tendency that got me quit and its seems to only have gone worse over time so i feel you on that one. I have no problem with casual gaming I enjoy some casual games. Why make hard games easy? The skill levels was gate keeping you not the players. Don't ruin my experience because just to bring in crowds who will play it for a month and stop. I'm pretty done with main stream games just indie games. I thought they had difficulty settings in video games for this exact reason, the passionate gamers go for extreme and the casual goes for easy/normal. Did they stop doing that with modern games? |
Say-My-Name said: I agree, I worked at a college during the covid pandemic and I talked to a few of the students wearing demon slayer pins and stuff, and many of them discovered anime on Netflix during covid and since they were in the "binge watch" culture they just binge watched any "Anime" that happened to be there, a few of them got crunchyroll since it was reccomended on their smart tvs and then watched all the top trending anime, but thats just it, beyond watching it and discussing it while high and such they don't engage in the fandom its like going to the movie theater. A FEW people have actually followed the bread crumbs, may god have mercy on their poor loss souls. It's been mainstreamized alright, but geek culture isn't dead. It's skin is worn by the casuals, while it's soul thrives in websites like this (although some of the posts I see here make me wonder if that's a good thing lol). |
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StarfireDragon said: I agree with this. Anime otaku culture makes me think not just of anime but also manga, visual novels, dakimakura, doujinshi, etc. The average Joe who watches a little anime on Netflix occasionally probably won't go any further than that. I think it's still kind of underground, outside of mainstream shows, but that has always been the case, even way back in the 90s. I think the more deeper aspects of it are still inherently underground. Like I can't see it ever being dominant culture to get a dakimakura, or something like that. |
ShmubmJun 25, 2023 8:30 AM
| I would argue that yes, anime is mainstream (at least in the US) but otaku culture isn't, not even in Japan nowadays. Sure, tons of young people like Demon Slayer and Naruto, and liking a mainstream shonen title won't be met with derision and scorn in highschool these days, but the more niche aspects of anime and anime-adjacent media are met with derision or discust (which is understandable in some cases, I must admit) by most members of the general population aka normies, that is if they even understand what you're talking about. |
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