Vinland Saga
| I'm anime only, so have no knowledge of anything that happens after S2, but whenever I see comments elsewhere on the web, it seems like the general consensus is that Thors was physically stronger than Thorkell? Is this just based on Thors knocking him out with one punch? I would argue that's mainly to do with Thors fighting smart and knowing about a weak point, not overwhelming strength (which he still obviously has, mind you). Or is there stuff that happens later in the manga? All the feats of strength I've really seen so far, point to Thorkell being the strongest. Or are they really just saying Thors > Thorkel in terms of just who would win in a fight? I would have liked to have seen a rematch myself, with Thorkel more aware of his weak jaw (if he already was?) |
paparoski02 said: I would have thought that as well initially, until I started reading more and more comments online. Even this poll is pretty divided so far. Does Thors have like a massive cult following or something? Has he reached mythical status? When someone says that Thors is stronger than Thorkell, they mainly mean in a fight. Thorkell is physically stronger. |
Pyxyty said: That could obviously be interpreted as stronger in a fight, instead of simply taking it at face value. It's as simple as this: even Thorkell thinks Thors is stronger ("the only man in the world stronger than myself"), so who cares what people online think if the actual character says that Thors is stronger, eh? I wonder if the author has said anything before? Maybe I should have started there... |
Chilli_ said: Thorkell is stronger but weaker than Thor’s in a fight. That's what I thought too, but apparently opinion is very divided. Ah well, nothing too important, just wanted to see if the general consensus was similar here as well. |
| Thorkel admitted, with words, that "Thors was the only man in the world strongee than him", so it is pretty much it. |
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Piromysl said: Folks must be either too young or acting intentionally obtuse, if that's the only thing you can deduct from that statement. Thorkel admitted, with words, that "Thors was the only man in the world strongee than him", so it is pretty much it. |
GakutoDeathGlare said: Piromysl said: Folks must be either too young or acting intentionally obtuse, if that's the only thing you can deduct from that statement. Thorkel admitted, with words, that "Thors was the only man in the world strongee than him", so it is pretty much it. You are overthinking this thing. The entire point of True Warrior ideology is that brute strength is not eat what matters. |
PiromyslJun 17, 2023 11:13 PM
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Piromysl said: I'm not talking about that at all though, this ideology or whatnot. That's fine and all, but what I'm talking about is far more simple. Simple physical strength. How surprised I was to see the majority take Thors over Thorkell. GakutoDeathGlare said: Folks must be either too young or acting intentionally obtuse, if that's the only thing you can deduct from that statement. You are overthinking this thing. The entire point of True Warrior ideology is that brute strength is not eat what matters. 63-40 so far, fairly even, but still in favor of Thors. |
GakutoDeathGlareJun 17, 2023 11:25 PM
GakutoDeathGlare said: Piromysl said: I'm not talking about that at all though, this ideology or whatnot. That's fine and all, but what I'm talking about is far more simple. Simple physical strength. How surprised I was to see the majority take Thors over Thorkell. You are overthinking this thing. The entire point of True Warrior ideology is that brute strength is not eat what matters. 63-40 so far, fairly even, but still in favor of Thors. That's the question we'll probably never get the answer for, because obviously Thors is dead and we never got to see what is the full extent of what Thors is truly capable of. All we can do is to assume. Obviously, Thorfinn defeating Thorkel in a fight doesn't mean Thorfinn is physically stronger, so Thorkel not applying any technique, strategy or battle sense in combat, just relying on his brute strength might debilitated him to some extent. |
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| This sort of reminds me of a tennis analogy, yes, Federer's serve has supreme placement, precision and consistency, but sometimes you just wanna watch in awe, as you see Roddick bomb down a 150 mph serve down the Tee. |
Piromysl said: GakutoDeathGlare said: I'm not talking about that at all though, this ideology or whatnot. That's fine and all, but what I'm talking about is far more simple. Simple physical strength. How surprised I was to see the majority take Thors over Thorkell. 63-40 so far, fairly even, but still in favor of Thors. That's the question we'll probably never get the answer for, because obviously Thors is dead and we never got to see what is the full extent of what Thors is truly capable of. All we can do is to assume. Obviously, Thorfinn defeating Thorkel in a fight doesn't mean Thorfinn is physically stronger, so Thorkel not applying any technique, strategy or battle sense in combat, just relying on his brute strength might debilitated him to some extent. "Obviously, Thorfinn defeating Thorkel", is this a reference to their last fight in S1 (where he gets his eye gouged) or just a typical example? |
GakutoDeathGlare said: Piromysl said: That's the question we'll probably never get the answer for, because obviously Thors is dead and we never got to see what is the full extent of what Thors is truly capable of. All we can do is to assume. Obviously, Thorfinn defeating Thorkel in a fight doesn't mean Thorfinn is physically stronger, so Thorkel not applying any technique, strategy or battle sense in combat, just relying on his brute strength might debilitated him to some extent. "Obviously, Thorfinn defeating Thorkel", is this a reference to their last fight in S1 (where he gets his eye gouged) or just a typical example? Yes, a typical example of David vs Goliath fight. Which kinda humbled Thorkel, by the way. |
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24846 said: It did happen, but your conclusion is rather a hasty generalization, but I suppose all we can do is generalize and assume like Piromysl says. Didn’t thors stop thorkells swing of his axe with just his hand. How could thors not be stronger |
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