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May 21, 2023 5:46 PM
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This is going to get a little technical as I have studied animation. I feel the animation in the show has started to decline since season 2. The errors are starting to pile up and the inbetweening hasn't been very good. The CGI is...just not very polished it looks like models that pop out of a PS2 game still in beta. I say this as someone who is very pro CGI too. I love stuff like Beastars and Trigun Stampede for example. The use of it just seems them avoiding drawing and animating complex things. There is more use of gloom to cover up errors than trying to balance out the colors more. The storyboard seems to be just having everyone run into each other a couple of times. The use of rule of cool has been very bizarre and questionable at times. It's not poorly animated but I'm starting to wonder does this team know what they want to do and do they understand how to properly storyboard out a fight. The good thing is there is still a good sense of weight in all of the actions and you can feel the impact. The movements of everything feels different and unique. Though, I feel this is just pockets of good animation and not effective overall animation. I don't wanna say they are being rush but I feel they are taking far too many shortcuts and they know if they just add enough pretty effects Twitter would be happy.

Some things I would suggest.

-Fully storyboard out of the fight.
-Try and do more than just having everyone run straight. Everyone seems to be fighting the same and, no, just because Genayu has a fucking gun doesn't mean he is fighting that different.
-Stop relying on CGI so much or at least try and polish it further.(They really could have clean up Emmu's attack in Mugen Train more. That shit was bad.)
-Have much more inbetweening so everything isn't super fast and is much smoother.

Overall the strongest aspect of this show has started to become of one of its issues which is strong now it is just okay. Maybe next time the founder pays his taxes.
MasterHavikJun 22, 2023 9:26 PM
I got a Masters degree. I don't have to worry bout school anymore.
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May 21, 2023 6:12 PM
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how dare you critizie the animation of the best "fantasy" anime ever Made I'm writing a letter to epic games say good bye to your fortnite account (even though I agree with you)
May 21, 2023 6:14 PM
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Well according to leakers and inside sources, from here on the quality gets way better. We shall see if that’s true, but they dropped a key visual and if you remember last time….
May 21, 2023 6:19 PM
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Lol, Lot of people act like they have bachelor degree in Animation.
May 21, 2023 6:19 PM
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I feel the same. I imagine ufotable have lost interest in the quality of the show and are just trying to pump out the anime as fast as they can so viewers don’t lose interest. We can see from the ‘to the sword smith village’ movie that production quality is beginning to fall off, they couldn’t even be bothered to edit the episodes together, instead we had to sit through the opening and ending credits 3 times.
I feel like they’re just in it for the money now.
May 21, 2023 6:21 PM
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throw_ger said:
how dare you critizie the animation of the best "fantasy" anime ever Made I'm writing a letter to epic games say good bye to your fortnite account (even though I agree with you)

why are you writing letter to epic games?? ๐Ÿ˜‚ lol
May 21, 2023 6:28 PM
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It's interesting how you wanted to talk about the animation and hardly mentioned it, while you "studied animation". Like I said in the other thread, you are a troll.

Like here 2 out of 4 suggestions have nothing to do with animation. And even one of the other 2 is actually about an earlier season fight.
So even if I don't try to point out while you are wrong, these illogical points prove perfectly that you are trolling here.

Btw, I also studied animation and you are wrong. So how can you prove that that you are right? You have the same credibility as I have.
May 21, 2023 6:30 PM
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I agree on everything you mentioned BUT the inbetweening. They seem to have figured out some interpolation technique that makes everything look 10x smoother than in previous seasons, especially for the slow-motion bits. Those look spectacular.

But I don't think anything else stands out from all the previous seasons; this approach of having pockets of amazing animation is what gave everyone the impression that the overall quality of the series was leagues above everything else in the first place. The 3D and compositing look just about the same, only more prominent and it still is among the best in the industry (that last sequence of Tanjiro sliding down the dragon tree in this week's episode made me drop my jaw). If anything, I think it is the non-action sequences that could do with better layouts during the storyboarding process as anything that isn't a fight scene is boring as hell visual-wise.

Looking back, it was never the "camera work" nor the editing (both related to the storyboards) that looked good, but just the actual post-processing powerhouse they run in top of it that made this series look as top-grade as it does.


EDIT: I feel ignored...
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May 21, 2023 6:46 PM
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rikom285 said:
Lol, Lot of people act like they have bachelor degree in Animation.
I mean I did actually study it in school and now how to animate myself. I didn't major in it but I think many could back this up.
I got a Masters degree. I don't have to worry bout school anymore.
May 21, 2023 6:48 PM

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ktg said:
It's interesting how you wanted to talk about the animation and hardly mentioned it, while you "studied animation". Like I said in the other thread, you are a troll.

Like here 2 out of 4 suggestions have nothing to do with animation. And even one of the other 2 is actually about an earlier season fight.
So even if I don't try to point out while you are wrong, these illogical points prove perfectly that you are trolling here.

Btw, I also studied animation and you are wrong. So how can you prove that that you are right? You have the same credibility as I have.
I mean I did study it but...I didn't want to flex my education on the matter as that's childish. Do you have anything to add to discussion besides call anyone who doesn't like Demon Slayer a fanboy? also, you said you have studied animation but  got zero idea what I'm fucking talking about as you haven't addressed my points. Calls me a troll but I think you're a fanboy with a troll kungfu grip.
MasterHavikMay 22, 2023 2:07 AM
I got a Masters degree. I don't have to worry bout school anymore.
May 21, 2023 7:37 PM
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I personally also didn’t like the CGI however I’m just gonna keep trying to enjoy this season ๐Ÿ™
May 21, 2023 7:46 PM
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Ridiculous post , basic hater
May 21, 2023 7:57 PM

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The longer a show goes on the cheaper it will get. Cuz they already have an audience so they don't need to make everything look really good to sell it, unlike the first season. This happens to every show eventually, MHA being a good example.
Also, CGI bitching at this point in the series, smh.
DarkLeafNinjaMay 21, 2023 8:01 PM
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May 21, 2023 8:06 PM
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Ufotable is well know for high quality animation (which the large majority of this show, including this season, is) and is well known for having a massive budget for DS. If we are really complaining about some CGI here and there and about the quality of animation from UFOTABLE, then you’ll literally never be satisfied with the animation of anything. There really isn’t much bad to point to here.
May 21, 2023 8:07 PM
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i dont think animation is the issue for here. the biggest issue the show faces is lackluster and boring direction. i believe Ufotable as a studio is nearly unmatched in potential. but they are held back by subpar episode directors
May 21, 2023 8:34 PM
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GOAT Piece fans celebrating the awesome animation of GOAT-ro vs King while Mid Slayer fans in the mud rn, lol๐Ÿคฃ
May 21, 2023 8:36 PM
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throw_ger said:
how dare you critizie the animation of the best "fantasy" anime ever Made I'm writing a letter to epic games say good bye to your fortnite account (even though I agree with you)

best fantasy?๐Ÿ˜‚ are you talking about Crunchyroll awards? then you should say that 'best fantasy anime in 2022 nominated by Crunchyroll'
May 21, 2023 8:45 PM
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repeated threads like these in not just the kny forums but everywhere makes me wonder do people nowadays actually watch an anime for the story or all do they care bout is "pretty animation"
May 21, 2023 9:55 PM

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KanataX said:
repeated threads like these in not just the kny forums but everywhere makes me wonder do people nowadays actually watch an anime for the story or all do they care bout is "pretty animation"

the selling point of this anime is it's breathtaking visuals and animation. The story is too simple and predictable to even care about.
May 21, 2023 10:21 PM
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V1P3R0P said:
KanataX said:
repeated threads like these in not just the kny forums but everywhere makes me wonder do people nowadays actually watch an anime for the story or all do they care bout is "pretty animation"

the selling point of this anime is it's breathtaking visuals and animation. The story is too simple and predictable to even care about.

so uh animation alone is enough for you to keep watching a show in it's 3rd season that has a story that you seemingly don't care bout?
oh well thanks for answering
May 21, 2023 10:34 PM

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As a manga reader, I consider this arc as one of the weaker ones and ufotable seem to share that opinion, so animation is slightly worse when compared to what we had before. That doesn't mean it's bad by any mean. I'm pretty sure they'll grace us with some quality sakuga once Mitsuri takes on Zohakuten.
But CG is still way better than tentacles from Mugen Train.
May 21, 2023 10:39 PM

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KanataX said:
V1P3R0P said:

the selling point of this anime is it's breathtaking visuals and animation. The story is too simple and predictable to even care about.

so uh animation alone is enough for you to keep watching a show in it's 3rd season that has a story that you seemingly don't care bout?
oh well thanks for answering

Yes, Because I already have read the manga and I am only watching this for the animation and the fights. Based on that, I'm credible enough to tell, the animations are what makes this show the best. You are welcome.
May 21, 2023 10:59 PM

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They can't do much when the source material is so crap. The characters think out every action they take or see, causing the action to be stretched thin. There are lot of moments where they have to use slow motion to give the characters time to think out their entire backstories.

One other reason is the flat choreography of the fights where it's just quick simple moves, like has Tanjiro ever used a water breathing technique this season? On top of it, they fight in nondescript locations and there is little sense of depth or dimensionality in them.

The CGI is simply horrendous in anime in general. The smooth CGI movement doesn't mesh well with the snappy 2D movement. Also an overuse of CGI models.
May 21, 2023 11:36 PM
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Just drop it then, why bothered to write a useless thread if u don't like the animation then don't watch no studio give a f about MAL reviews Just read the manga or completely drop the anime, no one cares
May 21, 2023 11:37 PM
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There were only a few standout cuts this season imo and the pacing has been very slow, almost intentionally stretched out. Especially this moment https://twitter.com/Pekuga_Pr/status/1660373043435192320
May 21, 2023 11:39 PM
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Agreed hope it gets better next season
May 22, 2023 12:13 AM
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The more you talk about it, the complex it gets, first of all those who says CGI this CGI that don't know a thing about CGI.
If you don't want to watch drop it, but as there are some comments people watching it for a SPARKLY ANIME FIGHT that's enough for action lover. Who cares about anybody's opinion.
May 22, 2023 12:15 AM
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I SWEAR YOU GUYS COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING IDK WHY!
ANIMATION IS PERFECTLY FINE AND I DONT FEEL ANYTHING OFF WITH IT YOU GUYS HAVE NOT SEEN WORSE??!
A LOT OF ANIME HAS BEEN RUINED BY BAD ANIMATION BUT KNY HAS HAD GOOD ANIMATION SINCE SEASON 1
May 22, 2023 12:17 AM
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rikom285 said:
Lol, Lot of people act like they have bachelor degree in Animation.

yeah man same I had watch all the 7 ep I just enjoyed it when I go to Twitter there are lots of people complaining about animation my reaction is what
May 22, 2023 12:26 AM
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Guys. This season had a worst animation then season one, guys. Please guys.
May 22, 2023 12:28 AM
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ngl there were 2 eps, maybe 3 i wasnt particularly impressed with this season, but that was simply because im comparing it to demon slayers peaks form, its still as good if not better than most shows
May 22, 2023 3:02 AM
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Yo what is wrong with you all people?
May 22, 2023 3:32 AM
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they don't care enough about this shitshow anymore apparently, and it's a good thing imo, can't wait for the studio's next projects
May 22, 2023 3:36 AM

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bro really compared kny's 5 minutes cgi to a full 12-episode, 3d cgi fully-focused animes (beastars and trigun stampede), made by a 3d cgi-focused studio (orange)
May 22, 2023 3:58 AM
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Mark my Words

3d Animation will kill Anime
May 22, 2023 4:58 AM
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You need to rewatch last 2 seasons, they used a lot of unnecessary CGI compared to this season.
May 22, 2023 5:19 AM
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MasterHavik said:
ktg said:
It's interesting how you wanted to talk about the animation and hardly mentioned it, while you "studied animation". Like I said in the other thread, you are a troll.

Like here 2 out of 4 suggestions have nothing to do with animation. And even one of the other 2 is actually about an earlier season fight.
So even if I don't try to point out while you are wrong, these illogical points prove perfectly that you are trolling here.

Btw, I also studied animation and you are wrong. So how can you prove that that you are right? You have the same credibility as I have.
I mean I did study it but...I didn't want to flex my education on the matter as that's childish. Do you have anything to add to discussion besides call anyone who doesn't like Demon Slayer a fanboy? also, you said you have studied animation but  got zero idea what I'm fucking talking about as you haven't addressed my points. Calls me a troll but I think you're a fanboy with a troll kungfu grip.
You should re-read your comments before sending it: "call anyone who doesn't like Demon Slayer a fanboy"
And what discussion are we talking about? You had zero objective points. That's why I didn't address them, but ok, I'll go through them.

1) Storyboard has nothing to do with the quality of the animation and you originally said that the animation quality dropped. Storyboard is more about directing.
Second, you don't know anything about their storyboard, which means you are just guessing as an idiot.
Third, what you are complaining about is actually how many vs many fights should look like. While shows like Naruto did many one vs one fights next to each other, which looks stupid af, ufotable actually choreographed it pretty well and tries to show us this is a chaotic thing.
2) It's also not about the animation and also not true. For example you are talking about how every one just running, while no one ran during the first like 3-4 episodes. After that started a search/chase where yes, you should obviously run. They are pretty distinctive fighting-wise too. Even if we talk about only Tanjiro and Genya, you can clearly see how reckless Genya is compared to Tanjiro, because Genya can heal himself.
3) This is the first point about animation and you gave us an example that's not even in this season and also not true. The CGI moments are actually pretty clean and fluid. The reason because some think it looks bad, because it should look like something that a demon would use. Unique compared to the real things, scary as a monster and should move and act like a monsterlike thing. You can't really find any problem with these CGI things because ufotable did a really great job. Just because you can tell it's CGI that won't make it bad.
4) And this is the only point that's about this season, but also false. Like a couple days/weeks ago there was a thread about there are too many slow moments in the show. This proves that it's not as fast and works perfectly.

Overall, you lied in your points and proved that your knowledge about animation is non-existent, because there were threads where people even said that the opposite was true.
May 22, 2023 6:07 AM
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Naah that's something I will never agree for.
It's ufotable after all.
May 22, 2023 8:45 AM
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PenguinOp said:
Yo what is wrong with you all people?
We call these people "elitists". 
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May 22, 2023 10:31 AM
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probably the best cgi ive seen in any anime and the animation is still better than most anime too i really don’t see a problem
May 22, 2023 12:42 PM

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have it cross your mind how quickly this season been made compared to the previous ones ? well no shit there will be errors you seem to really taken the "Ufotable Animators aren't human" meme too seriously, well hate to break it you no matter how much crack they smoke to Animate faster there is no way you'll get the same quality of previous seasons in such a short time.

May 22, 2023 1:26 PM

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As a guy who hasn't been to animation school I can pretty much say that the animation is nowhere near a downgrade this season so far. I don't know what all these complains are about. They have been doing a wonderful job at adapting the manga so far. Its just that this fight isn't as flashy from the start unlike the previous season. 

Besides even the previous season picked up in fights after episode 6 and especially ep 7 when gyutaro finally arrived. Same might be the case for this season. They will drop one absolutely banger episode and that would be more then enough to satisfy most of the anime community.
If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time.

May 22, 2023 1:55 PM

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They are probably too busy drowning in Chinese money if you ask me. I cant blame them.
May 22, 2023 2:12 PM
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Doesn't matter. After the season ends everyone is gonna forget bout the smol details and wont talk about anything but the smoking hot final battle.
May 22, 2023 8:00 PM
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You should send ufotable your resume
May 22, 2023 11:05 PM
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If it's true then it's a W lol they can quickly finish this mediocre shitfuck show
May 23, 2023 1:11 AM
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PenguinOp said:
Yo what is wrong with you all people?
just gets annoying honestly lmao
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May 24, 2023 9:16 AM
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Sounds like a you problem
May 24, 2023 10:19 AM
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Izuella said:
I personally also didn’t like the CGI however I’m just gonna keep trying to enjoy this season ๐Ÿ™

same i am trying to enjoy too
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