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May 8, 2023 7:35 PM

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There's now a whole thread dedicated to this, you're kidding me. I never even considered this to be a big deal when I first read the manga until now with all these complains from anime onlies. Wow.
May 8, 2023 7:44 PM
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Would have been tonal whiplash. To have such a happy moment next to such a brutal scene. It’s not in the manga from memory to
May 8, 2023 9:32 PM

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I have to agree, after all that build up... just nothing? not even a small happy moment where one of them says "let's talk about that later... blah blah blah"?



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Elucid said:
There's now a whole thread dedicated to this, you're kidding me. I never even considered this to be a big deal when I first read the manga until now with all these complains from anime onlies. Wow.

it's something we have been waiting for from pretty much the very start of the series.... why are you surprised?

maybe it wouldn't have worked as a huge moment in this plot line, but even a small scene where they go "let's do the wholesome reunion talk later" would have been great.

you are just lying to yourself, you wanted to see it to. it's not a huge complaint, but it's something that all of us wanted to see.
May 8, 2023 9:37 PM

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24846 said:
Would have been tonal whiplash. To have such a happy moment next to such a brutal scene. It’s not in the manga from memory to

why?

a scene of them being happy in reunion, that breaks back into the mood once someone tells thorfinn about what happened.
May 8, 2023 9:43 PM
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The big man has spoken.

Something came up!
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Reading this thread and I'm like "Wait, did they met?!" A 10 seconds dialogue for their reunion wouldn't hurt, you know.
May 8, 2023 10:02 PM
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It is a bit underwhelming. But I feel like you can’t go from, a woman getting beat senseless with a stick. To, oh hey it’s been like 10 years how have you been kinda thing. Would have ruined the whole mood of the episode.
May 8, 2023 10:08 PM

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It is a bit underwhelming. But I feel like you can’t go from, a woman getting beat senseless with a stick. To, oh hey it’s been like 10 years how have you been kinda thing. Would have ruined the whole mood of the episode.

a wholesome reunion wasn't needed
even a 30 second clip of Leif going to thorfinn saying ur friend just got beat up let's go would have been enough


May 8, 2023 10:12 PM

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Apolygon2 said:
Elucid said:
There's now a whole thread dedicated to this, you're kidding me. I never even considered this to be a big deal when I first read the manga until now with all these complains from anime onlies. Wow.

it's something we have been waiting for from pretty much the very start of the series.... why are you surprised?

maybe it wouldn't have worked as a huge moment in this plot line, but even a small scene where they go "let's do the wholesome reunion talk later" would have been great.

you are just lying to yourself, you wanted to see it to. it's not a huge complaint, but it's something that all of us wanted to see.

Yeah you're right, I probably just underestimated how much the anime community wanted a reunion scene between Thorfinn and Leif even if this episode was extremely rough.
May 8, 2023 10:15 PM

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Homura24 said:
In the latest episode after all that buildup, Thorfinn and Leif finally met
but it was all off screen 
I would have loved to see their reactions to meeting each other after so long
especially seeing as how Leif has been actively searching for Thorfinn and after so many failed attempts he finally met him
just a minor nit-pick

does anyone else feel the same way

Edit:- I'm not saying we wanted a wholesome reunion but even a 1 min scene where Leif goes to thorfinn says something bad has happened to his friend and then they go to the shed where her wounds are being tended to would have been enough instead of just seeing them together in the next scene

Sensei himself answered the question as to why he didn't draw a reunion scene in the manga

But maybe we may get an anime original
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May 8, 2023 10:21 PM

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AdamAvacado said:
Homura24 said:
In the latest episode after all that buildup, Thorfinn and Leif finally met
but it was all off screen 
I would have loved to see their reactions to meeting each other after so long
especially seeing as how Leif has been actively searching for Thorfinn and after so many failed attempts he finally met him
just a minor nit-pick

does anyone else feel the same way

Edit:- I'm not saying we wanted a wholesome reunion but even a 1 min scene where Leif goes to thorfinn says something bad has happened to his friend and then they go to the shed where her wounds are being tended to would have been enough instead of just seeing them together in the next scene

Sensei himself answered the question as to why he didn't draw a reunion scene in the manga

But maybe we may get an anime original

So there's our answer, this kind of makes sense if you think about it. Thorfinn at this moment was more concerned for Arnheid than with Leif.
That's not gonna stop people from being dissatisfied though
May 8, 2023 10:44 PM
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Yep totally agree with you. I was hoping for a small scene, but it was missing and just made it jarring when it cut to Thorfinn and Leif standing side by side.
May 8, 2023 11:12 PM
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You just watched a pregnant woman get the shit beat out of her with a stick, and the characters themselves can't even comprehend what just happened. I don't think you understand what 'tonal whiplash'  is 
May 8, 2023 11:38 PM

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Homura24 said:
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Seeing arnhied like that you wanted thorfin to express his joy while meeting leif?💀

that was a big moment yes I do agree
but so is leif finally meeting thorfinn again
like I said he has been searching for thorfinn for the last 4 years and finally met him
and we as the audience have also been waiting for them to meet for the last 17 eps

we'll likely get it next episode dw
May 8, 2023 11:44 PM

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xZabuzax said:
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why would it matter when they've already their reunion? 
That was in season 1 mate, this is season 2 and yeah, I wanted another reunion here since they were building this up in this season, they don't even need to say anything, just a simple hug before they go to see the beaten girl would suffice I guess.

no that would genuinely suck. I think you don't understand priorities here
May 8, 2023 11:47 PM

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8823Kam said:
The big man has spoken.

Something came up!

make a thread to stop anymore tomfoolery
May 9, 2023 12:33 AM
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CreepHazard said:
xZabuzax said:
That was in season 1 mate, this is season 2 and yeah, I wanted another reunion here since they were building this up in this season, they don't even need to say anything, just a simple hug before they go to see the beaten girl would suffice I guess.

no that would genuinely suck. I think you don't understand priorities here
Then don't have Leif showing up at all and make the goddamn reunion in another episode.

You know what sucked? what happened in this episode, stop kissing the mangaka's ass, they are not perfect either.
May 9, 2023 1:06 AM

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It didnt bother me much since the focus this episode is Arnheid, Im sure theyll show it in the next episode. Actually I didnt notice that they were in the same place since Arnheid's scene was so painful
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May 9, 2023 2:44 AM

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xZabuzax said:
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no that would genuinely suck. I think you don't understand priorities here
Then don't have Leif showing up at all and make the goddamn reunion in another episode.

You know what sucked? what happened in this episode, stop kissing the mangaka's ass, they are not perfect either.

maybe your unbelievably small brain still can't process that fact that you can't really have a heart touching reunion while a good friend of yours, who was pregnant, was beaten half to death. It literally wasn't the focus of the episode.

You can't expect stuff to proceed smoothly. After Thorfinn and gang messed things up this bad, it's obvious they're gonna have to face the consequences.

Nobody's kissing the mangaka's ass, it's just that you seem to lack common sense. Your fault you expected shit to go the smooth way, and your fault for not understanding why it wasn't shown, and your fault for assuming we won't get it next episode.

You just chose to be the retard in this thread, and that's your fault too.
May 9, 2023 2:49 AM
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Homura24 said:
In the latest episode after all that buildup, Thorfinn and Leif finally met
but it was all off screen 
I would have loved to see their reactions to meeting each other after so long
especially seeing as how Leif has been actively searching for Thorfinn and after so many failed attempts he finally met him
just a minor nit-pick

does anyone else feel the same way

Edit:- I'm not saying we wanted a wholesome reunion but even a 1 min scene where Leif goes to thorfinn says something bad has happened to his friend and then they go to the shed where her wounds are being tended to would have been enough instead of just seeing them together in the next scene
ikr I felt the same way ....lief for all these years searched for thorfinn and finally found him ( ik they met once before) it could've been such a beautiful reunion, the author could've put the arnheid scene after the reunion of something 😭


I hope we get a beautiful heart to heart talk between Leif and thorfinn next ep.
May 9, 2023 2:54 AM
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xZabuzax said:
ogking31 said:
why would it matter when they've already their reunion? 
That was in season 1 mate, this is season 2 and yeah, I wanted another reunion here since they were building this up in this season, they don't even need to say anything, just a simple hug before they go to see the beaten girl would suffice I guess.
ask yourself and answer... why would they hug in a middle of a serious circumstance that wasn't meant to happen? That's not how good writing works, this is not your normal anime who you want to be happy and all. this is realistic of a narrative to have
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ogking31 said:
xZabuzax said:
That was in season 1 mate, this is season 2 and yeah, I wanted another reunion here since they were building this up in this season, they don't even need to say anything, just a simple hug before they go to see the beaten girl would suffice I guess.
ask yourself and answer... why would they hug in a middle of a serious circumstance that wasn't meant to happen? That's not how good writing works, this is not your normal anime who you want to be happy and all. this is realistic of a narrative to have

Mate, there are happy hugs and sad hugs, I'm talking about sad hugs here, you know, when their faces are all sad and shit, yeah, that type of hug, it won't ruin the serious moments.

Anyway, I rather have the reunion happen in another episode and not this one.
May 9, 2023 3:09 AM
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CreepHazard said:
xZabuzax said:
Then don't have Leif showing up at all and make the goddamn reunion in another episode.

You know what sucked? what happened in this episode, stop kissing the mangaka's ass, they are not perfect either.

maybe your unbelievably small brain still can't process that fact that you can't really have a heart touching reunion while a good friend of yours, who was pregnant, was beaten half to death. It literally wasn't the focus of the episode.

You can't expect stuff to proceed smoothly. After Thorfinn and gang messed things up this bad, it's obvious they're gonna have to face the consequences.

Nobody's kissing the mangaka's ass, it's just that you seem to lack common sense. Your fault you expected shit to go the smooth way, and your fault for not understanding why it wasn't shown, and your fault for assuming we won't get it next episode.

You just chose to be the retard in this thread, and that's your fault too.

Actually, not only are you a retard but you are an ass-kisser, almost everyone here is complaining about the same shit. You are happy with the way shit turned out here, good for you, we are not happy about it, deal with it and stop kissing the mangaka's ass.
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xZabuzax said:
CreepHazard said:

maybe your unbelievably small brain still can't process that fact that you can't really have a heart touching reunion while a good friend of yours, who was pregnant, was beaten half to death. It literally wasn't the focus of the episode.

You can't expect stuff to proceed smoothly. After Thorfinn and gang messed things up this bad, it's obvious they're gonna have to face the consequences.

Nobody's kissing the mangaka's ass, it's just that you seem to lack common sense. Your fault you expected shit to go the smooth way, and your fault for not understanding why it wasn't shown, and your fault for assuming we won't get it next episode.

You just chose to be the retard in this thread, and that's your fault too.

Actually, not only are you a retard but you are an ass-kisser, almost everyone here is complaining about the same shit. You are happy with the way shit turned out here, good for you, we are not happy about it, deal with it and stop kissing the mangaka's ass.

That's called "difference in opinion" not "mangaka-ass kissing"
Wow look at that, you are a retard
May 9, 2023 3:21 AM
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CreepHazard said:
xZabuzax said:

Actually, not only are you a retard but you are an ass-kisser, almost everyone here is complaining about the same shit. You are happy with the way shit turned out here, good for you, we are not happy about it, deal with it and stop kissing the mangaka's ass.

That's called "difference in opinion" not "mangaka-ass kissing"
Wow look at that, you are a retard

Keep kissing it and stop pestering me.
May 9, 2023 3:24 AM

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xZabuzax said:
CreepHazard said:

That's called "difference in opinion" not "mangaka-ass kissing"
Wow look at that, you are a retard

Keep kissing it and stop pestering me.
Nobody's kissing anything, but sure I'm not looking for a fight atm
May 9, 2023 3:24 AM
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ogking31 said:
ask yourself and answer... why would they hug in a middle of a serious circumstance that wasn't meant to happen? That's not how good writing works, this is not your normal anime who you want to be happy and all. this is realistic of a narrative to have

Mate, there are happy hugs and sad hugs, I'm talking about sad hugs here, you know, when their faces are all sad and shit, yeah, that type of hug, it won't ruin the serious moments.

Anyway, I rather have the reunion happen in another episode and not this one.

Sad about what? Thorfinn is in fact not sad but in distraught, leif has no clue on what's happening and if we use headcanon, leif met him and told him what happened and Thorfinn had no time to be hugging Leif when his friend was abused. Thorfinn's MIND tells you that there should no one that should be hurt. 

Actually it would ruin the episode when Thorfinn is clearly the guy that doesn't wanna see violence being committed on anyone. I get you want light hearted moments but this is not it. 
May 9, 2023 3:32 AM
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What do you mean offscreen? It didn’t happen yet

when they watched arnheid strongly injured, they were already met
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Oh wait is he talking about his adopted son Thorfinn?
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Yea, I was expecting at least some sort of minor reunion scene, kinda felt weird too see them together like that 

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ogking31 said:
xZabuzax said:

Mate, there are happy hugs and sad hugs, I'm talking about sad hugs here, you know, when their faces are all sad and shit, yeah, that type of hug, it won't ruin the serious moments.

Anyway, I rather have the reunion happen in another episode and not this one.

Sad about what? Thorfinn is in fact not sad but in distraught, leif has no clue on what's happening and if we use headcanon, leif met him and told him what happened and Thorfinn had no time to be hugging Leif when his friend was abused. Thorfinn's MIND tells you that there should no one that should be hurt. 

Actually it would ruin the episode when Thorfinn is clearly the guy that doesn't wanna see violence being committed on anyone. I get you want light hearted moments but this is not it. 

Mate, I rather see the reunion having a sad hugging moment in this episode, at least it would have been better than the off-screen crap I got here because this was bad and I'm not the only one complaining about it, almost everyone in this thread thinks the same so yeah, there was something off here. It won't ruin it if the hug is displayed in a sad way, like Leif realizing that he was a slave or whatever and they are having a sad reunion that won't collide with the serious tone of the episode, you know, the "show don't tell" type of thing, anything could have worked here but don't off screen it, that was simply lame.

I still rather have Leif not show up at all and get the reunion in another episode.
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xZabuzax said:
Mate, I rather see the reunion having a sad hugging moment in this episode, at least it would have been better than the off-screen crap I got here because this was bad and I'm not the only one thinking it, almost everyone in this thread thinks the same so yeah, there was something off here. It won't ruin it if the hug is displayed in a sad way, like Leif realizing that he was a slave or whatever and they are having a sad reunion that won't collide with the serious tone of the episode, you know, the "show don't tell" type of thing, anything could have worked here but don't off screen it, that was simply lame.

I still rather have Leif not show up at all and get the reunion in another episode.
I asked u again, why would there be a sad way? Leif has no connection to arnheid, but thorfinn does. Leif already knew he was enslave, and kept looking for him and made a mistake and bought Bug Eyes as a mistake. What do you not understnad when it comes to writing perspective? I've given you thorfinn's perspective in which he's not looking for leif and Leif already had his reunion in season 1 and was only slipped away. Show don't tell type of thing doesn't work in this scene when Characters have different tones of emotion. 
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ogking31 said:
xZabuzax said:
Mate, I rather see the reunion having a sad hugging moment in this episode, at least it would have been better than the off-screen crap I got here because this was bad and I'm not the only one thinking it, almost everyone in this thread thinks the same so yeah, there was something off here. It won't ruin it if the hug is displayed in a sad way, like Leif realizing that he was a slave or whatever and they are having a sad reunion that won't collide with the serious tone of the episode, you know, the "show don't tell" type of thing, anything could have worked here but don't off screen it, that was simply lame.

I still rather have Leif not show up at all and get the reunion in another episode.
I asked u again, why would there be a sad way? Leif has no connection to arnheid, but thorfinn does. Leif already knew he was enslave, and kept looking for him and made a mistake and bought Bug Eyes as a mistake. What do you not understnad when it comes to writing perspective? I've given you thorfinn's perspective in which he's not looking for leif and Leif already had his reunion in season 1 and was only slipped away. Show don't tell type of thing doesn't work in this scene when Characters have different tones of emotion. 

Fuck it, I'm not wasting my time with this shit since we aren't getting anywhere here.

You liked it, good for you, most of us on this thread didn't, we believe this was lame, bad, weird, whatever, nothing you say will change our opinion about it. I believe the mangaka fucked it up, now, for our sake, let's not waste more time with this pointless conversation.
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xZabuzax said:
You liked it, good for you, most of us on this thread didn't, we believe this was lame, bad, weird, whatever, nothing you say will change our opinion about it. I believe the mangaka fucked it up, now, for our sake, let's not waste more time with this pointless conversation.
I'm telling an objective writing stand point... why would Thorfinn have a relieved moment OR sad moment to see leif? Thorfinn never thought of being rescued by leif, or was he even sad or him. He's sad for Arnheid and wants to come to her and see her condition. 

I am questioning you from a standpoint of thorfinn and leif (knew arnheid's beating first). It tells you that thorfinn doesn't prioritize Leif rescuing him but focuses on the more serious matter which is Arnheid. This would ruin the episode. 
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ogking31 said:
xZabuzax said:
You liked it, good for you, most of us on this thread didn't, we believe this was lame, bad, weird, whatever, nothing you say will change our opinion about it. I believe the mangaka fucked it up, now, for our sake, let's not waste more time with this pointless conversation.
I'm telling an objective writing stand point... why would Thorfinn have a relieved moment OR sad moment to see leif? Thorfinn never thought of being rescued by leif, or was he even sad or him. He's sad for Arnheid and wants to come to her and see her condition. 

I am questioning you from a standpoint of thorfinn and leif (knew arnheid's beating first). It tells you that thorfinn doesn't prioritize Leif rescuing him but focuses on the more serious matter which is Arnheid. This would ruin the episode. 

It also undermines the perceived build up, what with Leif travelling simply to find Thorfinn. Naturally, readers would expect at least 1 scene dedicated to their reunion. Whilst undoubtedly, slotting it right after Arnheid’s beating may be a drastic tonal change, the absence of a scene at all is underwhelming. Not to mention, why couldn’t the reunion have taken place prior to the beating, since it’s apparently inappropriate to do so afterwards? I can’t help but feel like the mangaka realised he’d forgotten to give Leif & Thorfinn a scene, but realised the tonal shift would be too dramatic to fit it in now.
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24846 said:
Would have been tonal whiplash. To have such a happy moment next to such a brutal scene. It’s not in the manga from memory to

why?

a scene of them being happy in reunion, that breaks back into the mood once someone tells thorfinn about what happened.

That’s just tonal whiplash. The author said it himself too
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i cant say i dislike anything about vinland saga. this episode was already so good. i think the director's doing a pretty great job
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Oremonogatari said:
It also undermines the perceived build up, what with Leif travelling simply to find Thorfinn. Naturally, readers would expect at least 1 scene dedicated to their reunion. Whilst undoubtedly, slotting it right after Arnheid’s beating may be a drastic tonal change, the absence of a scene at all is underwhelming. Not to mention, why couldn’t the reunion have taken place prior to the beating, since it’s apparently inappropriate to do so afterwards? I can’t help but feel like the mangaka realised he’d forgotten to give Leif & Thorfinn a scene, but realised the tonal shift would be too dramatic to fit it in now.
prior to the beating Snake was literally permitted them to go near him? and in fact they even show you snake going to the stable along with leif and RIGHT after that thorfinn and einar went to the house where Arnheid was laying down. There's no prior to this and it would ruin and overshadowed by Arnheid
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24846 said:
Apolygon2 said:

why?

a scene of them being happy in reunion, that breaks back into the mood once someone tells thorfinn about what happened.

That’s just tonal whiplash. The author said it himself too

we could have just moved some scenes around though...


hear me out:

reunion happens, happy scene

someone asks about, or talks about Arnheid

the people who know what happened turn silent

we cut back to ketil, and we now see what happened for the first time

then we cut back to them visiting her




explain why that wouldn't work perfectly?

I guess it would take away some shock factor since we know something bad is coming, but I think that sacrifice would have been more than worth it.
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yeah fuck their reunion and one of the major plotlines from S1&2 we need a moral lecture about how slavery is bad.......this season sucks ass. it deserves the pink eye it gets!
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It wasn't an atmosphere for an emotional reunion tbh. Even realistically speaking, I believe this outcome would have been the most obvious one. Still, they will get their time together in the next episode once things have calmed down.
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