Vinland Saga
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May 2, 2023 5:35 AM
#51
what an incredibly braindead thread. then you have the comment about the baby to top it off, sasuga. |
May 2, 2023 5:40 AM
#52
JerryB3RRY said: The plot doesn't progress for a long time after Thorfinn gets "adopted" by Askeladd. They just roam around, fight a ton and pillage villages.Sylverthas said: People are way too fixated on the "x chapters per episode" thing. What if one chapter can be expanded on in an anime to make it more impactful? Exactly what they did with episode 17. Also people forget how bad the pacing in season 1 was. Probably because they got distracted by Thorfinn's Naruto run and flashy fights. I didn't think the pacing of season 1 was bad, only the second half. Yet I didn't think it was that bad. Why do you think so? Further: The whole season only has one compelling character in Askeladd, everyone else was underdeveloped (Thorfinn has to be one of the most bland main characters around). Maybe Knut, but he was also a non-presence in 90% of the show and only got rushed development near the end. Actually, his development was so fast you wonder if the whole fucking around for so many episodes was poor planning on the studio's part. I won't defend the beginning of season 2, it is slow. What it achieves, what season 1 never did: It builds up an array of interesting characters in the first half of the season and now in the second half the payoff hits. Season 2 has a lot to say, especially with regards to the events in season 1, for people that are interested to pick up on themes. |
SylverthasMay 2, 2023 6:04 AM
May 2, 2023 6:07 AM
#53
To even put Vinland saga pacing and one piece pacing in the same thought is absurd |
May 2, 2023 6:41 AM
#54
JerryB3RRY said: I know the pacing isn't as bad as One piece. But, it feels like there should be a lot more content in those episodes. It was worse at episode 2-3. And at this recent episode, I already went through the 5 stages of grief during Gardar's montage. I stopped giving a shit a long time ago. Just kidding, I never gave a shit. What do y'all think? Are y'all fine with the pacing? Also, the baby looked ugly as hell For me the pacing of this season has been fantastic. However, this latest episode was the first time I kind of got annoyed of the choice to dedicate half an episode to a character that we really never had a chance to get super attached to. To me it just seemed like they were really stretching the run time out as long as possible. I understand it has to go along with the theme of the show of showing that war and fighting is not worth it, but imo it didn’t need more than half an episode with an under cooked character. |
May 2, 2023 6:50 AM
#55
In some places it might feel a Lil bit slow but overall it is amazing |
May 2, 2023 8:05 AM
#56
Apolygon2 said: except it was rated by minuscule 800 members which means nothing. You need to have atleast 10k votes to say majority of them liked the eps, not just fans spamming 10.JerryB3RRY said: I know the pacing isn't as bad as One piece. But, it feels like there should be a lot more content in those episodes. It was worse at episode 2-3. And at this recent episode, I already went through the 5 stages of grief during Gardar's montage. I stopped giving a shit a long time ago. Just kidding, I never gave a shit. What do y'all think? Are y'all fine with the pacing? Also, the baby looked ugly as hell have you ever seen a real baby? if anything the baby was stunning by bay standards, other anime baby's just set unrealistic standards for baby looks!!! anyways, check the imdb, the episode you're complaining about is one of the highest rated episodes in the entire series. The episode was good but at this point I cannot defend the pacing. They dragged 5pages contentworth for 15min, guess they didn't have any good stopping point so they extended it |
May 2, 2023 8:15 AM
#57
JerryB3RRY said: I do feel that the pacing is a bit slow, but that does not prevent me from enjoying the story to the fullest. Slow pacing is welcome as long as it pays off well in the story, and in my personal opinion it has worked really well, from first developing Thorfinn, Einar, and Canute and now developing Arnheid and Gardar. While some may feel that Arnheid and Gardar's story feel like filler, I feel that it's a seemingly detached story from main plot which isn't really detached. It's kind of like Durarara, where first all the different characters have detached stories, but then everything combines up to become something grander. I feel Ketil's and Canute's arrival in the next episodes and the upcoming battle is going to somehow merge with Arnheid's situation leading to Thorfinn and Einar's development. I have not read the manga so I do not know the story, but that is what I speculate. I know the pacing isn't as bad as One piece. But, it feels like there should be a lot more content in those episodes. It was worse at episode 2-3. And at this recent episode, I already went through the 5 stages of grief during Gardar's montage. I stopped giving a shit a long time ago. Just kidding, I never gave a shit. What do y'all think? Are y'all fine with the pacing? Also, the baby looked ugly as hell |
May 2, 2023 8:18 AM
#58
JerryB3RRY said: I know the pacing isn't as bad as One piece. But, it feels like there should be a lot more content in those episodes. It was worse at episode 2-3. And at this recent episode, I already went through the 5 stages of grief during Gardar's montage. I stopped giving a shit a long time ago. Just kidding, I never gave a shit. What do y'all think? Are y'all fine with the pacing? Also, the baby looked ugly as hell pacing is fine no , I would say its the best dk why you guys are even talking about |
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May 2, 2023 8:27 AM
#59
Sagenaker11 said: Apolygon2 said: except it was rated by minuscule 800 members which means nothing. You need to have atleast 10k votes to say majority of them liked the eps, not just fans spamming 10.JerryB3RRY said: I know the pacing isn't as bad as One piece. But, it feels like there should be a lot more content in those episodes. It was worse at episode 2-3. And at this recent episode, I already went through the 5 stages of grief during Gardar's montage. I stopped giving a shit a long time ago. Just kidding, I never gave a shit. What do y'all think? Are y'all fine with the pacing? Also, the baby looked ugly as hell have you ever seen a real baby? if anything the baby was stunning by bay standards, other anime baby's just set unrealistic standards for baby looks!!! anyways, check the imdb, the episode you're complaining about is one of the highest rated episodes in the entire series. The episode was good but at this point I cannot defend the pacing. They dragged 5pages contentworth for 15min, guess they didn't have any good stopping point so they extended it there is also 83% 5/5s in the mal's episode discussion, which is the highest percentage of 5/5s this season. and reading the replies, the vast majority of them are praising the hell out of it, with a handful of others not liking the episode or being mixed on it. also do you not realize how little sense it makes to say it doesn't count before it reaches 10,000 votes? at this very moment, this show has a total of 2. fucking 2, episodes in it's entire run time season 1 included, that have more than 3 thousand votes. and out of those 2. only end of prologue, which is one of the highest rated episodes on all of imdb with a score of 9.9 has more than 10,000 votes. it being above 10,000 would have been basically impossible, unless it was almost unanimously agreed to be the best episode of the show, an even then it would have taken months if not years. and listen. this is all irrelevant anyways, because all of season 2 episodes were rated by similar number of people. this one is slightly lower since it just came out, but all the episodes are rated by the same general crowd. even if they were all super fans, it would make 0 sense for the weak episode to be rated higher than the good episodes. there is a reason I said highest rated in the season, and not just "highly rated". it's high in comparison to the other episodes, which makes the "because it's rated by fans" argument complete nonsense. the only episode this season with more than 2,000 votes is oath, this despite being super new doesn't even have that much less ratings than the other episodes. and to end things off. it was a slow episode. but being slow is not inherently bad. it depends on the affect it will have on the show. and turning 5 panels, into one of the best episodes in the show according to most people, is a pretty big positive that came from that slow pace. |
APolygons2May 2, 2023 8:33 AM
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May 2, 2023 8:46 AM
#60
Apolygon2 said: you wrote 3 long ass para to just prove my point lol. You yourself said all eps were rated by SIMILAR number of people, so all the casuals didn't even bother rating the episode.Sagenaker11 said: Apolygon2 said: JerryB3RRY said: I know the pacing isn't as bad as One piece. But, it feels like there should be a lot more content in those episodes. It was worse at episode 2-3. And at this recent episode, I already went through the 5 stages of grief during Gardar's montage. I stopped giving a shit a long time ago. Just kidding, I never gave a shit. What do y'all think? Are y'all fine with the pacing? Also, the baby looked ugly as hell have you ever seen a real baby? if anything the baby was stunning by bay standards, other anime baby's just set unrealistic standards for baby looks!!! anyways, check the imdb, the episode you're complaining about is one of the highest rated episodes in the entire series. The episode was good but at this point I cannot defend the pacing. They dragged 5pages contentworth for 15min, guess they didn't have any good stopping point so they extended it there is also 83% 5/5s in the mal's episode discussion, which is the highest percentage of 5/5s this season. and reading the replies, the vast majority of them are praising the hell out of it, with a handful of others not liking the episode or being mixed on it. also do you not realize how little sense it makes to say it doesn't count before it reaches 10,000 votes? at this very moment, this show has a total of 2. fucking 2, episodes in it's entire run time season 1 included, that have more than 3 thousand votes. and out of those 2. only end of prologue, which is one of the highest rated episodes on all of imdb with a score of 9.9 has more than 10,000 votes. it being above 10,000 would have been basically impossible, unless it was almost unanimously agreed to be the best episode of the show, an even then it would have taken months if not years. and listen. this is all irrelevant anyways, because all of season 2 episodes were rated by similar number of people. this one is slightly lower since it just came out, but all the episodes are rated by the same general crowd. even if they were all super fans, it would make 0 sense for the weak episode to be rated higher than the good episodes. there is a reason I said highest rated in the season, and not just "highly rated". it's high in comparison to the other episodes, which makes the "because it's rated by fans" argument complete nonsense. the only episode this season with more than 2,000 votes is oath, this despite being doesn't even have that much less ratings than the other episodes. It's like out of 100 people,10 people spam 10 but rest 90 doesn't even bother rating, hence the score remains high. Why do you think end of prologue has over 10000 votes while rest of the eps in s1 itself doesn't cross over 2000? Its because it's the only eps where both the fans and the CASUALS agreed it was a banger ep but for other eps casuals didnt even bother rating the episode. The only anime where we can take episode scores seriously is aot because most of it's good eps are rated by close to 50k people on average |
May 2, 2023 8:54 AM
#61
I think the pacing is alright. Some episodes do feel shorter than they are but that may be do ti my attention span. Also, that baby did look like a goblin, you ain’t wrong. |
May 2, 2023 9:04 AM
#62
Sagenaker11 said: Apolygon2 said: you wrote 3 long ass para to just prove my point lol. You yourself said all eps were rated by SIMILAR number of people, so all the casuals didn't even bother rating the episode.Sagenaker11 said: Apolygon2 said: except it was rated by minuscule 800 members which means nothing. You need to have atleast 10k votes to say majority of them liked the eps, not just fans spamming 10.JerryB3RRY said: I know the pacing isn't as bad as One piece. But, it feels like there should be a lot more content in those episodes. It was worse at episode 2-3. And at this recent episode, I already went through the 5 stages of grief during Gardar's montage. I stopped giving a shit a long time ago. Just kidding, I never gave a shit. What do y'all think? Are y'all fine with the pacing? Also, the baby looked ugly as hell have you ever seen a real baby? if anything the baby was stunning by bay standards, other anime baby's just set unrealistic standards for baby looks!!! anyways, check the imdb, the episode you're complaining about is one of the highest rated episodes in the entire series. The episode was good but at this point I cannot defend the pacing. They dragged 5pages contentworth for 15min, guess they didn't have any good stopping point so they extended it there is also 83% 5/5s in the mal's episode discussion, which is the highest percentage of 5/5s this season. and reading the replies, the vast majority of them are praising the hell out of it, with a handful of others not liking the episode or being mixed on it. also do you not realize how little sense it makes to say it doesn't count before it reaches 10,000 votes? at this very moment, this show has a total of 2. fucking 2, episodes in it's entire run time season 1 included, that have more than 3 thousand votes. and out of those 2. only end of prologue, which is one of the highest rated episodes on all of imdb with a score of 9.9 has more than 10,000 votes. it being above 10,000 would have been basically impossible, unless it was almost unanimously agreed to be the best episode of the show, an even then it would have taken months if not years. and listen. this is all irrelevant anyways, because all of season 2 episodes were rated by similar number of people. this one is slightly lower since it just came out, but all the episodes are rated by the same general crowd. even if they were all super fans, it would make 0 sense for the weak episode to be rated higher than the good episodes. there is a reason I said highest rated in the season, and not just "highly rated". it's high in comparison to the other episodes, which makes the "because it's rated by fans" argument complete nonsense. the only episode this season with more than 2,000 votes is oath, this despite being doesn't even have that much less ratings than the other episodes. It's like out of 100 people,10 people spam 10 but rest 90 doesn't even bother rating, hence the score remains high. Why do you think end of prologue has over 10000 votes while rest of the eps in s1 itself doesn't cross over 2000? Its because it's the only eps where both the fans and the CASUALS agreed it was a banger ep but for other eps casuals didnt even bother rating the episode. The only anime where we can take episode scores seriously is aot because most of it's good eps are rated by close to 50k people on average yes undeniably end of prologue is the agreed upon best episode in the entire series as of this moment, how the fuck does that prove anything? and I know you're talking nonsense, because anyone who has been on imdb for long enough knows your logic is completely flawed. the best episodes on shows always get the most ratings. in aots case, yeah a lot of episodes have 20,000 plus rating, but only hero is 101,000. that's the case for the highest rated episodes on imdb no matter how big or small the audience size is. look at off taxi, look at 86, look at id invaded, these aren't super popular shows yet their highest rated episode is always the one with the most votes. that's not because the other ratings aren't valid. it's because more people bother to rate something they feel strongly about be it positive or negative. it has nothing to do with casuals or fans. look at the promised neverland season 2 and how the episode with the most votes, is by far the lowest rated one. and again, you can look at my anime list to, where another 1,700 people have contributed to it being a 83% 5/5. |
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May 2, 2023 9:16 AM
#63
Apolygon2 said: thank you for proving my point. Glad to know you understood the importance of casual fans rating the showSagenaker11 said: Apolygon2 said: Sagenaker11 said: Apolygon2 said: except it was rated by minuscule 800 members which means nothing. You need to have atleast 10k votes to say majority of them liked the eps, not just fans spamming 10.JerryB3RRY said: I know the pacing isn't as bad as One piece. But, it feels like there should be a lot more content in those episodes. It was worse at episode 2-3. And at this recent episode, I already went through the 5 stages of grief during Gardar's montage. I stopped giving a shit a long time ago. Just kidding, I never gave a shit. What do y'all think? Are y'all fine with the pacing? Also, the baby looked ugly as hell have you ever seen a real baby? if anything the baby was stunning by bay standards, other anime baby's just set unrealistic standards for baby looks!!! anyways, check the imdb, the episode you're complaining about is one of the highest rated episodes in the entire series. The episode was good but at this point I cannot defend the pacing. They dragged 5pages contentworth for 15min, guess they didn't have any good stopping point so they extended it there is also 83% 5/5s in the mal's episode discussion, which is the highest percentage of 5/5s this season. and reading the replies, the vast majority of them are praising the hell out of it, with a handful of others not liking the episode or being mixed on it. also do you not realize how little sense it makes to say it doesn't count before it reaches 10,000 votes? at this very moment, this show has a total of 2. fucking 2, episodes in it's entire run time season 1 included, that have more than 3 thousand votes. and out of those 2. only end of prologue, which is one of the highest rated episodes on all of imdb with a score of 9.9 has more than 10,000 votes. it being above 10,000 would have been basically impossible, unless it was almost unanimously agreed to be the best episode of the show, an even then it would have taken months if not years. and listen. this is all irrelevant anyways, because all of season 2 episodes were rated by similar number of people. this one is slightly lower since it just came out, but all the episodes are rated by the same general crowd. even if they were all super fans, it would make 0 sense for the weak episode to be rated higher than the good episodes. there is a reason I said highest rated in the season, and not just "highly rated". it's high in comparison to the other episodes, which makes the "because it's rated by fans" argument complete nonsense. the only episode this season with more than 2,000 votes is oath, this despite being doesn't even have that much less ratings than the other episodes. It's like out of 100 people,10 people spam 10 but rest 90 doesn't even bother rating, hence the score remains high. Why do you think end of prologue has over 10000 votes while rest of the eps in s1 itself doesn't cross over 2000? Its because it's the only eps where both the fans and the CASUALS agreed it was a banger ep but for other eps casuals didnt even bother rating the episode. The only anime where we can take episode scores seriously is aot because most of it's good eps are rated by close to 50k people on average it's because more people bother to rate something they feel strongly about be it positive or negative |
May 2, 2023 9:22 AM
#64
Sagenaker11 said: are you being stupid on purpose? how does that have anything to do with being casual?Apolygon2 said: thank you for proving my point. Glad to know you understood the importance of casual fans rating the showSagenaker11 said: Apolygon2 said: you wrote 3 long ass para to just prove my point lol. You yourself said all eps were rated by SIMILAR number of people, so all the casuals didn't even bother rating the episode.Sagenaker11 said: Apolygon2 said: except it was rated by minuscule 800 members which means nothing. You need to have atleast 10k votes to say majority of them liked the eps, not just fans spamming 10.JerryB3RRY said: I know the pacing isn't as bad as One piece. But, it feels like there should be a lot more content in those episodes. It was worse at episode 2-3. And at this recent episode, I already went through the 5 stages of grief during Gardar's montage. I stopped giving a shit a long time ago. Just kidding, I never gave a shit. What do y'all think? Are y'all fine with the pacing? Also, the baby looked ugly as hell have you ever seen a real baby? if anything the baby was stunning by bay standards, other anime baby's just set unrealistic standards for baby looks!!! anyways, check the imdb, the episode you're complaining about is one of the highest rated episodes in the entire series. The episode was good but at this point I cannot defend the pacing. They dragged 5pages contentworth for 15min, guess they didn't have any good stopping point so they extended it there is also 83% 5/5s in the mal's episode discussion, which is the highest percentage of 5/5s this season. and reading the replies, the vast majority of them are praising the hell out of it, with a handful of others not liking the episode or being mixed on it. also do you not realize how little sense it makes to say it doesn't count before it reaches 10,000 votes? at this very moment, this show has a total of 2. fucking 2, episodes in it's entire run time season 1 included, that have more than 3 thousand votes. and out of those 2. only end of prologue, which is one of the highest rated episodes on all of imdb with a score of 9.9 has more than 10,000 votes. it being above 10,000 would have been basically impossible, unless it was almost unanimously agreed to be the best episode of the show, an even then it would have taken months if not years. and listen. this is all irrelevant anyways, because all of season 2 episodes were rated by similar number of people. this one is slightly lower since it just came out, but all the episodes are rated by the same general crowd. even if they were all super fans, it would make 0 sense for the weak episode to be rated higher than the good episodes. there is a reason I said highest rated in the season, and not just "highly rated". it's high in comparison to the other episodes, which makes the "because it's rated by fans" argument complete nonsense. the only episode this season with more than 2,000 votes is oath, this despite being doesn't even have that much less ratings than the other episodes. It's like out of 100 people,10 people spam 10 but rest 90 doesn't even bother rating, hence the score remains high. Why do you think end of prologue has over 10000 votes while rest of the eps in s1 itself doesn't cross over 2000? Its because it's the only eps where both the fans and the CASUALS agreed it was a banger ep but for other eps casuals didnt even bother rating the episode. The only anime where we can take episode scores seriously is aot because most of it's good eps are rated by close to 50k people on average it's because more people bother to rate something they feel strongly about be it positive or negative |
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May 2, 2023 9:27 AM
#65
Apolygon2 said: looks like you and your profic pic char share the same mental capacitySagenaker11 said: are you being stupid on purpose? how does that have anything to do with being casual?Apolygon2 said: Sagenaker11 said: Apolygon2 said: you wrote 3 long ass para to just prove my point lol. You yourself said all eps were rated by SIMILAR number of people, so all the casuals didn't even bother rating the episode.Sagenaker11 said: Apolygon2 said: except it was rated by minuscule 800 members which means nothing. You need to have atleast 10k votes to say majority of them liked the eps, not just fans spamming 10.JerryB3RRY said: I know the pacing isn't as bad as One piece. But, it feels like there should be a lot more content in those episodes. It was worse at episode 2-3. And at this recent episode, I already went through the 5 stages of grief during Gardar's montage. I stopped giving a shit a long time ago. Just kidding, I never gave a shit. What do y'all think? Are y'all fine with the pacing? Also, the baby looked ugly as hell have you ever seen a real baby? if anything the baby was stunning by bay standards, other anime baby's just set unrealistic standards for baby looks!!! anyways, check the imdb, the episode you're complaining about is one of the highest rated episodes in the entire series. The episode was good but at this point I cannot defend the pacing. They dragged 5pages contentworth for 15min, guess they didn't have any good stopping point so they extended it there is also 83% 5/5s in the mal's episode discussion, which is the highest percentage of 5/5s this season. and reading the replies, the vast majority of them are praising the hell out of it, with a handful of others not liking the episode or being mixed on it. also do you not realize how little sense it makes to say it doesn't count before it reaches 10,000 votes? at this very moment, this show has a total of 2. fucking 2, episodes in it's entire run time season 1 included, that have more than 3 thousand votes. and out of those 2. only end of prologue, which is one of the highest rated episodes on all of imdb with a score of 9.9 has more than 10,000 votes. it being above 10,000 would have been basically impossible, unless it was almost unanimously agreed to be the best episode of the show, an even then it would have taken months if not years. and listen. this is all irrelevant anyways, because all of season 2 episodes were rated by similar number of people. this one is slightly lower since it just came out, but all the episodes are rated by the same general crowd. even if they were all super fans, it would make 0 sense for the weak episode to be rated higher than the good episodes. there is a reason I said highest rated in the season, and not just "highly rated". it's high in comparison to the other episodes, which makes the "because it's rated by fans" argument complete nonsense. the only episode this season with more than 2,000 votes is oath, this despite being doesn't even have that much less ratings than the other episodes. It's like out of 100 people,10 people spam 10 but rest 90 doesn't even bother rating, hence the score remains high. Why do you think end of prologue has over 10000 votes while rest of the eps in s1 itself doesn't cross over 2000? Its because it's the only eps where both the fans and the CASUALS agreed it was a banger ep but for other eps casuals didnt even bother rating the episode. The only anime where we can take episode scores seriously is aot because most of it's good eps are rated by close to 50k people on average it's because more people bother to rate something they feel strongly about be it positive or negative |
May 2, 2023 9:27 AM
#66
Apolygon2 said: atomicman209 said: yeah full of shit like:why yall giving it 8-9 starts when this season is just full of shit fantastic writing, great theming, top tier characters, emotional devastating moments, ear orgasmic music, really good animation, and so much more. oh then season 1 must not have been your type and ig you haven't watched a lot of anime cuz after a while you kinda know what gonna happen and a weeks wait for THAT isn't worth it for me atleast |
May 2, 2023 9:36 AM
#67
the baby was ugly fr but i love the pacing in season 2. the anime gives you time to process what happened and lets you think it through. in the latest episode i too felt like gardars last goodbye was too long, but i’m glad the show isn’t hasty and gives you time to breath. we don’t want to see another pacing failure like cyberpunk edgerunners or tokyo ghoul:re do we |
May 2, 2023 9:45 AM
#68
atomicman209 said: Apolygon2 said: atomicman209 said: why yall giving it 8-9 starts when this season is just full of shit fantastic writing, great theming, top tier characters, emotional devastating moments, ear orgasmic music, really good animation, and so much more. oh then season 1 must not have been your type and ig you haven't watched a lot of anime cuz after a while you kinda know what gonna happen and a weeks wait for THAT isn't worth it for me atleast said who? I loved season 1, askeladd is in my top 3 favorite characters in anime. Idk if I like this season more or less yet, it will all depend on the climax. but I adored season 1. it's like a 9.5/10 for me. |
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May 2, 2023 9:49 AM
#69
Sagenaker11 said: just reread our conversation with an open mind, and you will realize how stupid you sound... or you know what? don't.Apolygon2 said: looks like you and your profic pic char share the same mental capacitySagenaker11 said: Apolygon2 said: thank you for proving my point. Glad to know you understood the importance of casual fans rating the showSagenaker11 said: Apolygon2 said: you wrote 3 long ass para to just prove my point lol. You yourself said all eps were rated by SIMILAR number of people, so all the casuals didn't even bother rating the episode.Sagenaker11 said: Apolygon2 said: except it was rated by minuscule 800 members which means nothing. You need to have atleast 10k votes to say majority of them liked the eps, not just fans spamming 10.JerryB3RRY said: I know the pacing isn't as bad as One piece. But, it feels like there should be a lot more content in those episodes. It was worse at episode 2-3. And at this recent episode, I already went through the 5 stages of grief during Gardar's montage. I stopped giving a shit a long time ago. Just kidding, I never gave a shit. What do y'all think? Are y'all fine with the pacing? Also, the baby looked ugly as hell have you ever seen a real baby? if anything the baby was stunning by bay standards, other anime baby's just set unrealistic standards for baby looks!!! anyways, check the imdb, the episode you're complaining about is one of the highest rated episodes in the entire series. The episode was good but at this point I cannot defend the pacing. They dragged 5pages contentworth for 15min, guess they didn't have any good stopping point so they extended it there is also 83% 5/5s in the mal's episode discussion, which is the highest percentage of 5/5s this season. and reading the replies, the vast majority of them are praising the hell out of it, with a handful of others not liking the episode or being mixed on it. also do you not realize how little sense it makes to say it doesn't count before it reaches 10,000 votes? at this very moment, this show has a total of 2. fucking 2, episodes in it's entire run time season 1 included, that have more than 3 thousand votes. and out of those 2. only end of prologue, which is one of the highest rated episodes on all of imdb with a score of 9.9 has more than 10,000 votes. it being above 10,000 would have been basically impossible, unless it was almost unanimously agreed to be the best episode of the show, an even then it would have taken months if not years. and listen. this is all irrelevant anyways, because all of season 2 episodes were rated by similar number of people. this one is slightly lower since it just came out, but all the episodes are rated by the same general crowd. even if they were all super fans, it would make 0 sense for the weak episode to be rated higher than the good episodes. there is a reason I said highest rated in the season, and not just "highly rated". it's high in comparison to the other episodes, which makes the "because it's rated by fans" argument complete nonsense. the only episode this season with more than 2,000 votes is oath, this despite being doesn't even have that much less ratings than the other episodes. It's like out of 100 people,10 people spam 10 but rest 90 doesn't even bother rating, hence the score remains high. Why do you think end of prologue has over 10000 votes while rest of the eps in s1 itself doesn't cross over 2000? Its because it's the only eps where both the fans and the CASUALS agreed it was a banger ep but for other eps casuals didnt even bother rating the episode. The only anime where we can take episode scores seriously is aot because most of it's good eps are rated by close to 50k people on average it's because more people bother to rate something they feel strongly about be it positive or negative go show this exact conversation to your friends and ask them. you don't even need to reply back, I'll just pretend like I got owned if it makes you happy. but do get a second opinion of someone who you trust, and I assure you they will tell you how stupid you sound. |
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May 2, 2023 9:52 AM
#70
certifiedbinger said: It has been flawless to me as far as pacing and direction go. It'd be better than S1 if it met the visual standards tbh. the 10/10 backgrounds are gone though :C and idk if it's just me, but the characters look flat compared to season 1 in the average shots. idk why though. maybe it's the lighting, but if you compare them, something makes the s2 characters feel more.... papery? the directing is just as good if not better, and the soundtrack is even stronger though. so at worst it's a very small downgrade. |
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May 2, 2023 9:59 AM
#71
Apolygon2 said: well I could say the same to you, anyway I'm too old to get animated over this trivial things.see yaSagenaker11 said: just reread our conversation with an open mind, and you will realize how stupid you sound... or you know what? don't.Apolygon2 said: Sagenaker11 said: are you being stupid on purpose? how does that have anything to do with being casual?Apolygon2 said: thank you for proving my point. Glad to know you understood the importance of casual fans rating the showSagenaker11 said: Apolygon2 said: you wrote 3 long ass para to just prove my point lol. You yourself said all eps were rated by SIMILAR number of people, so all the casuals didn't even bother rating the episode.Sagenaker11 said: Apolygon2 said: except it was rated by minuscule 800 members which means nothing. You need to have atleast 10k votes to say majority of them liked the eps, not just fans spamming 10.JerryB3RRY said: I know the pacing isn't as bad as One piece. But, it feels like there should be a lot more content in those episodes. It was worse at episode 2-3. And at this recent episode, I already went through the 5 stages of grief during Gardar's montage. I stopped giving a shit a long time ago. Just kidding, I never gave a shit. What do y'all think? Are y'all fine with the pacing? Also, the baby looked ugly as hell have you ever seen a real baby? if anything the baby was stunning by bay standards, other anime baby's just set unrealistic standards for baby looks!!! anyways, check the imdb, the episode you're complaining about is one of the highest rated episodes in the entire series. The episode was good but at this point I cannot defend the pacing. They dragged 5pages contentworth for 15min, guess they didn't have any good stopping point so they extended it there is also 83% 5/5s in the mal's episode discussion, which is the highest percentage of 5/5s this season. and reading the replies, the vast majority of them are praising the hell out of it, with a handful of others not liking the episode or being mixed on it. also do you not realize how little sense it makes to say it doesn't count before it reaches 10,000 votes? at this very moment, this show has a total of 2. fucking 2, episodes in it's entire run time season 1 included, that have more than 3 thousand votes. and out of those 2. only end of prologue, which is one of the highest rated episodes on all of imdb with a score of 9.9 has more than 10,000 votes. it being above 10,000 would have been basically impossible, unless it was almost unanimously agreed to be the best episode of the show, an even then it would have taken months if not years. and listen. this is all irrelevant anyways, because all of season 2 episodes were rated by similar number of people. this one is slightly lower since it just came out, but all the episodes are rated by the same general crowd. even if they were all super fans, it would make 0 sense for the weak episode to be rated higher than the good episodes. there is a reason I said highest rated in the season, and not just "highly rated". it's high in comparison to the other episodes, which makes the "because it's rated by fans" argument complete nonsense. the only episode this season with more than 2,000 votes is oath, this despite being doesn't even have that much less ratings than the other episodes. It's like out of 100 people,10 people spam 10 but rest 90 doesn't even bother rating, hence the score remains high. Why do you think end of prologue has over 10000 votes while rest of the eps in s1 itself doesn't cross over 2000? Its because it's the only eps where both the fans and the CASUALS agreed it was a banger ep but for other eps casuals didnt even bother rating the episode. The only anime where we can take episode scores seriously is aot because most of it's good eps are rated by close to 50k people on average it's because more people bother to rate something they feel strongly about be it positive or negative go show this exact conversation to your friends and ask them. you don't even need to reply back, I'll just pretend like I got owned if it makes you happy. but do get a second opinion of someone who you trust, and I assure you they will tell you how stupid you sound. |
May 2, 2023 10:37 AM
#72
Apolygon2 said: certifiedbinger said: It has been flawless to me as far as pacing and direction go. It'd be better than S1 if it met the visual standards tbh. the 10/10 backgrounds are gone though :C and idk if it's just me, but the characters look flat compared to season 1 in the average shots. idk why though. maybe it's the lighting, but if you compare them, something makes the s2 characters feel more.... papery? the directing is just as good if not better, and the soundtrack is even stronger though. so at worst it's a very small downgrade. yep, I've seen several manga panels from this arc that were drawn just the same in the anime, but the shading which gave the art a medieval epic feeling was mostly lost. I definitely agree with the soundtrack being better this season. For me personally, I'd rate it the same as S1 so far overall. It could be a 10/10 for me if the visuals measured up because I'm way more invested than I was in S1. |
May 2, 2023 10:43 AM
#73
certifiedbinger said: Apolygon2 said: certifiedbinger said: It has been flawless to me as far as pacing and direction go. It'd be better than S1 if it met the visual standards tbh. the 10/10 backgrounds are gone though :C and idk if it's just me, but the characters look flat compared to season 1 in the average shots. idk why though. maybe it's the lighting, but if you compare them, something makes the s2 characters feel more.... papery? the directing is just as good if not better, and the soundtrack is even stronger though. so at worst it's a very small downgrade. yep, I've seen several manga panels from this arc that were drawn just the same in the anime, but the shading which gave the art a medieval epic feeling was mostly lost. I definitely agree with the soundtrack being better this season. For me personally, I'd rate it the same as S1 so far overall. It could be a 10/10 for me if the visuals measured up because I'm way more invested than I was in S1. true, although if it has an episode that can match end of prologue i might still give it a 10/10. i'l also way more invested in this season. despite the fact that my favorite charactet is a little too dead to be around. |
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May 2, 2023 11:06 AM
#74
JerryB3RRY said: I know the pacing isn't as bad as One piece. But, it feels like there should be a lot more content in those episodes. It was worse at episode 2-3. And at this recent episode, I already went through the 5 stages of grief during Gardar's montage. I stopped giving a shit a long time ago. Just kidding, I never gave a shit. What do y'all think? Are y'all fine with the pacing? Also, the baby looked ugly as hell I was hoping for a season like the first one but got something else. It is hard for me to explain, but it sort of feels like Thorfinn's redemption as a war-ridden character is is our redemption as war-seeking viewers. What it means to be a true warrior was his father's view of a place like Vinland, where peace and slow pace is what you want to aim for. His father couldn't escape war and struggle, but maybe he can. He needs to learn patience and tenderness. This season is a perfect example of the other side of war, the side of slaves, of victims, of strife. If in the first one he learned anger and instinct, in this one he learns self-reflection and responsiblity for himself and for others. That's just my opinion though |
May 2, 2023 12:13 PM
#75
Ye. It's slow paced. So what? |
May 2, 2023 12:38 PM
#76
Weebs when they see newborn babies |
May 2, 2023 2:55 PM
#79
Apolygon2 said: maybe because you're blind... S2 design are far more detailed than it was in season 1. Movements are much better and there's much less clunky CGI involved. and idk if it's just me, but the characters look flat compared to season 1 in the average shots. idk why though. maybe it's the lighting, but if you compare them, something makes the s2 characters feel more.... papery? |
May 2, 2023 3:03 PM
#80
ogking31 said: Apolygon2 said: maybe because you're blind... S2 design are far more detailed than it was in season 1. Movements are much better and there's much less clunky CGI involved. and idk if it's just me, but the characters look flat compared to season 1 in the average shots. idk why though. maybe it's the lighting, but if you compare them, something makes the s2 characters feel more.... papery? idk about the detail, but yes i know the cgi use is lessened, and the cgi that is there is much better... but thats not what i meant. the characters just don't blend in as well as season 1. they stick out like paper. i didn't say they were simple, i said they were flat. it probably has something to do with lighting, but i don't understand lighting well enough to tell you exactly what the problem is. just compare some of the simpler shots of both seasons and you'll get what i mean. |
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May 2, 2023 4:12 PM
#81
Vinland Saga S2 discourse is so terrible. You shonen-tards have a mental illness where you need action in a show or else you can't watch it |
May 2, 2023 5:54 PM
#82
0207xander said: Vinland Saga S2 discourse is so terrible. You shonen-tards have a mental illness where you need action in a show or else you can't watch it Not everyone that criticises a seinen is a shounen fan. I have difficulty finding a good shounen anime. And I expect seinen fans to be a lot more open minded. |
May 2, 2023 7:26 PM
#83
JerryB3RRY said: Damn TC. Ya clickbaited me real good.I know the pacing isn't as bad as One piece. |
Keep scrolling |
May 2, 2023 7:34 PM
#84
I read your commentary before watching yesterday's episode, and I was like "Huh, not that much". After watching it I kinda agree with you, this week's episode was like 3 minutes of Thorfinn vs Snake, and the other rest was just to add some more background on Gardar. As a manga reader I knew this scenes were an extra, and at first I was "Ok, put some more emotion in Gardar's death is ok for me", but as I keep watching I started to feel that the producers of this episode just wanted to me make me cry, like "SEE GARDAR'S DEATH?! HE SUFFERED SO MUCH! CRY! CRY FOR HIM!". I felt pretty sad reading it in the manga, but the, in my opinion, waste of time in putting so much in the anime made me bored, I couldn't really like it. The pace of the manga is good, they should just follow it, but no, they absolutely have to end this season with 24 episodes of just this arc of the manga. |
May 2, 2023 8:55 PM
#85
JerryB3RRY said: 0207xander said: Vinland Saga S2 discourse is so terrible. You shonen-tards have a mental illness where you need action in a show or else you can't watch it Not everyone that criticises a seinen is a shounen fan. I have difficulty finding a good shounen anime. And I expect seinen fans to be a lot more open minded. Fair. I didn’t check your profile to see what shows you like. However there are literally dozens of topics that talk about Vinland Saga S2 and complain about pacing, lack of action, farming, Thorfinn being a beta, etc etc and, until you, every single one of them was a shonen tard who can’t watch a show if there’s no flashing colors twice per episode. Back to the original question, no the pacing isn’t bad, you probably just don’t like how the story is told. Nothing wrong with that, but complaining or saying it’s “bad” is just silly and reductive |
May 2, 2023 8:59 PM
#86
Apolygon2 said: provide example of flat... because the way you talk about production seems like you're not really aware of what you're talking about regards to animation and artstyle. i didn't say they were simple, i said they were flat. it probably has something to do with lighting, but i don't understand lighting well enough to tell you exactly what the problem is. |
May 2, 2023 11:32 PM
#87
I don’t agree with you at all except for the baby being ugly as hell ☠️☠️☠️ |
May 3, 2023 3:07 AM
#88
Slow paced Vinland Saga is still better than fast paced One Piece |
If you want to reply to my posts, come up with valid arguments instead of ad hominem HIGHER LEVEL THINKERS ONLY |
May 3, 2023 4:21 AM
#89
anerbitton said: You are pretty much on point. Season 1 had a superfluous amount of gory violence so that the viewers bask in it and maybe even become desensitized - just like the Normannic people. It didn't exactly glorify it (it was depicted as gruesome), but at the same time it also wanted to be seen as "shounen cool" with stuff like Thorfinn Naruto running or Thorkell throwing trees. JerryB3RRY said: I know the pacing isn't as bad as One piece. But, it feels like there should be a lot more content in those episodes. It was worse at episode 2-3. And at this recent episode, I already went through the 5 stages of grief during Gardar's montage. I stopped giving a shit a long time ago. Just kidding, I never gave a shit. What do y'all think? Are y'all fine with the pacing? Also, the baby looked ugly as hell I was hoping for a season like the first one but got something else. It is hard for me to explain, but it sort of feels like Thorfinn's redemption as a war-ridden character is is our redemption as war-seeking viewers. What it means to be a true warrior was his father's view of a place like Vinland, where peace and slow pace is what you want to aim for. His father couldn't escape war and struggle, but maybe he can. He needs to learn patience and tenderness. This season is a perfect example of the other side of war, the side of slaves, of victims, of strife. If in the first one he learned anger and instinct, in this one he learns self-reflection and responsiblity for himself and for others. That's just my opinion though Season 2 subverts and rejects what Season 1 was. It criticises and confronts the ethos of that period (in particular Normannic) with the glory of war, revenge and what a "strong man" is supposed to be. These ideas are woven through many plots in the 2nd season, most profoundly with Thorfinn but also Ketil and his sons, Knut, Arnheid and Gardar, Snake, etc.. Though it only work as well as it does because Season 1 exists as a counterpoint. |
May 3, 2023 5:58 AM
#90
I think overall the pacing of this season has been great, but I agree, the Gardar montage on ep 17 was waaaay too long; 2-3 minutes would have been more than enough |
May 3, 2023 9:32 AM
#91
ogking31 said: Apolygon2 said: provide example of flat... because the way you talk about production seems like you're not really aware of what you're talking about regards to animation and artstyle. i didn't say they were simple, i said they were flat. it probably has something to do with lighting, but i don't understand lighting well enough to tell you exactly what the problem is. looking at it now I'm pretty sure it's mix of lighting, and the line work being all thinner. |
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May 3, 2023 12:26 PM
#92
I agree that the pace is slow. But I don't think that that's a bad thing. Personally, I'm enjoying getting a chance to delve into the minds of the characters etc. With good writing seemingly mundane scenes have a purpose. If the writing or dialogue were amateurish I'd have had a lot to complain about. |
May 3, 2023 7:18 PM
#93
It’s been doing 2 episodes an episode, sometimes 3. The pacing is great. |
May 3, 2023 8:42 PM
#94
JerryB3RRY said: 0207xander said: Vinland Saga S2 discourse is so terrible. You shonen-tards have a mental illness where you need action in a show or else you can't watch it Not everyone that criticises a seinen is a shounen fan. I have difficulty finding a good shounen anime. And I expect seinen fans to be a lot more open minded. Then drop the bloody show if you don't like where it's heading. Seriously, why do you have to make it such a big deal. And the pacing imo is great, the added Gardar scenes were great too. |
May 3, 2023 8:53 PM
#95
Gomi_C_ said: JerryB3RRY said: 0207xander said: Vinland Saga S2 discourse is so terrible. You shonen-tards have a mental illness where you need action in a show or else you can't watch it Not everyone that criticises a seinen is a shounen fan. I have difficulty finding a good shounen anime. And I expect seinen fans to be a lot more open minded. Then drop the bloody show if you don't like where it's heading. Seriously, why do you have to make it such a big deal. And the pacing imo is great, the added Gardar scenes were great too. Never said anything about where it's heading. Just said it has a slow pacing. I am still invested in this series. |
May 4, 2023 1:14 AM
#96
Elucid said: I find the pacing to be great, it gives each dramatic moment time to breathe. So many anime these days favour faster pacing with the cost of immersion, seeing anime like Vinland Saga is a breath of fresh air. I do not understand why anime fans have such a big deal with slower pacing. It is the TikTok attention span. |
May 5, 2023 1:08 AM
#97
No offense, but I think you should give up on this anime. The pacing could seem slow but it is needed for story development, Vinland Saga is not a generic action based anime/manga that would rapidly reach to it's climax content. It is like a novel one needs to read with patience, observing the details. If you can't feel patient enough while watching this anime, you should drop it. |
May 5, 2023 3:41 AM
#98
Red_sparkling said: No offense, but I think you should give up on this anime. The pacing could seem slow but it is needed for story development, Vinland Saga is not a generic action based anime/manga that would rapidly reach to it's climax content. It is like a novel one needs to read with patience, observing the details. If you can't feel patient enough while watching this anime, you should drop it. Shallow observation |
May 5, 2023 3:53 AM
#99
I love when people feel triggered hearing honest words. Lol. Stay pressed, then. |
May 5, 2023 4:00 AM
#100
Red_sparkling said: I love when people feel triggered hearing honest words. Lol. Stay pressed, then. A bit too immature for seinen |
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