| music changes and progresses with times to adapt to the themes and trends and demands of its period. |
| You know, every time there is a thread topic like this there is almost inevitably a flurry of replies stating as a matter of fact that the reason can simply be boiled down to nostalgia or rose-tinted glasses for the past, but one reason I'm not buying it is that a lot of people who actively watch anime today were not watching anime in 1997 or 2002 or 2008. So even if the series came out at that time in those years, we didn't watch them when they were airing or newly released to be able to experience it the first time through youthful wonder of a child's perspective and pin it all on nostalgia. For instance, Cowboy Bebop, which the OP mentioned. A classic which many have nostalgia for? Certainly, but for someone like me who didn't even know of either its existence or even anime as a whole's existence back in 1998, didn't start watching anime until 2016, and didn't watch even a single minute of Cowboy Bebop until 2019, there is no nostalgia or "not adapting to new" in that sense for me. It was as new to me in 2019 as it was for someone watching it for the first time all the way back in 1998. And I'm no Cowboy Bebop fanatic; that's just an example. I enjoyed it, but it's just "good" to me, so like a 7/10 (my benchmark of an average good series), far and away from the legendary masterpiece some bill it as. However, one cannot write off the music's contribution and how it even carried a significant part of that series. It's a large part of its more unique aesthetic and imparted it a sense of identity. I agree that not as much from, say, the past five years, in terms of OSTs from series, stands out by comparison to many series from, let's say the late 90s through the 2000s and even include the early 2010s. My favorite OST of all time is from my favorite anime, Inuyasha, but unlike many in the West, I didn't watch this series anywhere close to when it was first airing or even first airing dubbed on Western television, in middle school or high school. I didn't watch it until 2016 when I was already in my 20s. So again, it's not a matter of being taken in by childhood wonderment goggles. And that series was released in 2000. It's also a concerning issue because a stellar - and I don't mean just serviceable or proficient, but absolutely stellar, out of this world, sublime OST which is so in sync with the emotional beats of the world and story, conversations and internal thoughts, and on point episode by episode, scene by scene, is such a large part of what really elevates an anime to a masterpiece and/or favorite, treasured status in my book. The writing and the music are my two big things and sticking points. By far and away the best OST most recently from an anime for me was Mahoutsukai no Yome from 2017. That is the last one which I would say is on par with some of my earlier year favorites as far as capturing and conveying that special feeling and really distinguishing itself. Looking at others, my favorite OSTs are from 2000, 2004, 2006, 2010, another from 2006, 2002, etc. So it's definitely something which hasn't gone unnoticed. |
WatchTillTandavaFeb 5, 2023 3:56 PM
| @TheBlackPlague Like Hans Zimmer hmmm there are soundtracks of shows which are 2010-2023 which already have great tracks lik Zimmers etc. Lemme give you example you might have missed them or ignored them x) Here are examples 2 of each show for which I'll find something + Comments if they remind something popular: I tried to give them in chronological order so the oldest shows are in top while the youngest are in the very bottom aswell as split into 3 spoilers cause well... There are too many good osts. Comments 2010-2015: [Lmao when I was checking osts the 0.7 of Freezing below sounds like a plagiarism of Gladiator Hans Zimmer's ost lmao] - You wanted Hans Zimmer so you have here even a "Nightcore" version of "The Battle" ost from Gladiator. Another one, the Exorcist/Satan/Devil theme [2nd Ao No Exorcist ost] has the 300 touch x). Tokyo Raven's Red Monochrone sounds similar to one of the songs from Nier Automata, it was played I think in 3rd episode [in game it always plays when you enter Ressistance Camp] similar but not that hearable as the previous examples. Black Bullet Crisis Point - Just switch it on, you'd know already who is the composer, yes indeed Shiro Sagisu from Evangelion and Bleach with his famous Choirs, he still does that kind of music after 2010s [Bleach hasn't died yet btw] + The second reminds me of Bleach Invasion/Treachery vibes x) but highly remixed. Mao Testament Sounds like/similar to the NPC Battle theme from Overlord S1 x). Comet Lucifer's ost was literally a reason why I watched it. 2016-2020: Mordred Theme from Fate/Apocrypha [Knight of Rebellion, since I watched it seasonally is one of my top ost till today, I just love it and adore it]. Ultimate Price from Violet Evergarden even after all those years make me cry. Song of Morality/Destruction from Lost Song.... The orchestra from 1:15 when that scene was happening still feeling goosebumps. Akansesasu Shojo Grab My hand beginning sounds like/similar main theme of Goblin Slayer x). Alice Main Theme from Sao Alicization is like SAO x Dark Souls/Elden Ring x). .... Someday from Great Pretender oh boy... it brings flashbacks... Yes I've cried at Cynthia's Flashback it hit me hard. Ya want something catchy? Check out the Hollow Purple from 2:52 from Jujutsu Kaisen. 2021-Now: Vivy Unrivaled that one got me just right after I heard it, it is stuck in my memory especially the momentum from 1:03 which means the best part of fighting scene like Elizabeth vs Vivy, or Matsumoto screaming DIVA! When she was fighting against that one guy who aswell as Matsumoto fought Ophelia. The first battle... I do remember writing to msg to my buddy who was interested in this and I was writing "Ayo, check that vibing quick song from 2nd episode [or maybe 1st I don't remember exactly which episode it was but that was during the rescue missiong as first 2 episodes came out together]. The first ost from Fumetsu below... Oh boy that fight with Bear I've had chills through my whole body while hearing this, Fumetsu's ost just are something else, they crush emotionally your soul and heart at the same time. Star Wars Visions Duel with little background teases of the most famous soundtrack from Phantom Menace <3, vilalge bride which sounds like Star Wars x Nier Automata Chinese children [and that piano in the end reminds me imperial march ending tune] . Cyberpunk Edgerunners.... That's just copium of dead soul within my body. You wanted Bleach? Bleach TYBW 2022 Number One Remix, I guess you've missed a big return this year, cause the ost are also some new some new remixes. If you wonder: Yes when an ost is very good I remember the exact scene when it was played during the show. I might watch for enjoyment but I will not ignore it, so I do remember the scenes with great osts, as I wrote above x). I suppose you should pay more attention to soundtrack of new anime, just take a look how many different shows I can give you by only 2 osts, when they have alot more... alot... |
ZettaikenFeb 5, 2023 4:18 PM
| That's not true... and a lot of peoples favorites don't sound catchy to me, so it's all based on perspective. |
     blooming & blossoming |
| Good soundtracks aren't that common. Good and unique sountracks are even rarer, but not entirely absent in the recent years. This might be yet another thread that compares 30+ years of anime with the last few and then asks "why is X more present in 30 years than in the last 10?". |
| Music-heavy anime nowadays are far more likely to have the characters actually making the music. Compare Cowboy Bebop with Carole and Tuesday, for example. |
| The rule that 90% of everything is trash still applies. It's not that great soundtracks don't exist, it's probably the same# but there's a lot more worthless chaff in the way. The OST for Made in Abyss exists, and is one of the best ones I've ever heard in my life. 2017 You have to remember that good music costs a lot more money than some crappy pop song made by a computer. |
| nostalgia, in 2050 you'd say the music back in the 2020's were better and more memorable |
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