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Nov 14, 2022 11:50 PM

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David Productions, however, has obviously the most experience with Jojo. They are really good at adapting the parts, with Mappa, there's a possibility they may not be able to give off the same feel

Nov 15, 2022 12:03 AM

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This is not entirely David Production's fault, remember that Netflix is one of the producers for Stone Ocean. The fact that Netflix was involved in the production process (such as the budget and release schedule of the anime) definitely has an impact on the quality of the anime.

I meant, MAPPA's Titan CGI looks "bad" because they were rushed to chasing the target that was ordered by the producer.

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Nov 15, 2022 12:08 AM

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maybe I'm werid but I didn't even know there was CGI for the frogs. I only noticed there was CGI on white snake like once.

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Nov 15, 2022 12:40 AM

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if steel ball run ends up like berserk I'll genuinely go assassinate all of the animators myself

Nov 15, 2022 2:01 AM

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DoppiosFrog said:
maybe I'm werid but I didn't even know there was CGI for the frogs. I only noticed there was CGI on white snake like once.

Yo me too if I'm being honest

Nov 15, 2022 2:35 AM

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ZeemoXD said:

DoppiosFrog said:
maybe I'm werid but I didn't even know there was CGI for the frogs. I only noticed there was CGI on white snake like once.

Yo me too if I'm being honest

I was so surprised to discover people were complaining about the CGI.

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Nov 15, 2022 2:46 AM

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DoppiosFrog said:

ZeemoXD said:

Yo me too if I'm being honest

I was so surprised to discover people were complaining about the CGI.

I mean it wasn't amazing for sure but it wasn't even that noticeable at first glance. I don't know why they used CGI on White Snake, i understand it with Chainsaw Man for example cuz the chainsaws are difficult to animate, but why for white snake?

Nov 15, 2022 3:28 AM

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nah man, David Production is good enough. They have an originality

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Nov 15, 2022 3:41 AM

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I literally can't see David Productions dropped Jojo tbh

Nov 15, 2022 4:15 AM

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kArtCam said:
If they reaaaalllyy need to make a lot of use of CGI because of the horses and other things, or at least collaborate with them, I mean, I love the work that David Productions has done with Jojo's all the way but man, there are two things that bothers me a lot:

1st: Why can't the anime be little more dynamic, like idk the 90s adaptation but 10 times more faithful to the manga, the studio is able to do amazing works like Fire Force but Jojo's, at least this season is just static af, unlike some scenes like Ermes defeating Sports Max (or Doppio vs Risotto from part 5) that i love, but man i almost couldn't take seriously the Jolyne vs Pucci battle where he starts the green baby ritual, the movments, the stands' attacks (like two frames repeating again and again), even the grass, everything just didn't look good imo.
2nd: Jojo's CGI isn't the best, and the CGI for this current season is horrendous, i mean, the frogs, the grass, manhattan transfer, white snake, the backgrounds, everything looks terrible imo, and well, i sugger Mappa to do it only because of that reason.

I just want, if the cgi is really necessary, to be good CGI and not Berserk-like CGI, the other option is give the animators horse anatomy lessons :"

It depends on time and budjet. JoJo is very appreciated anime especially the part 7 of jojo so i don't think they are going to rush it. They want to make it as good as possible and that's why david productions is the right choise over mappa in case of JoJo.

Nov 15, 2022 5:00 AM

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The director literally sad they don't want to use CGI for part 7 why are they worried. They also have their sugar Daddy Netflix so they'll be fine on budget

Nov 15, 2022 5:12 AM

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squeekeez said:
The director literally sad they don't want to use CGI for part 7 why are they worried. They also have their sugar Daddy Netflix so they'll be fine on budget

netflix doesnt provide budget, warner bros does that.
netflix only releases the episodes, and the director did not say that about CGI in SBR

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Nov 15, 2022 10:44 AM

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Dp aren't gonna give it to mappa, rhey have stated before that they want to faithfully adapt all of JoJo and i dont think mappa would do a good job of adapting it

Nov 16, 2022 8:27 AM

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Please god no, not MAPPA. JoJo's animation is perfectly fine, it has to be static, cuz the artstyle is so detailed. However, I agree that Stone Ocean took it to the next level, but it's mainly because the main staff from DP is working on other anime. If Steel Ball Run gets the same treatment it will be very disappointing, but I still think they will do better job than fucking MAPPA. With their scheduling we would wait 10 years for a complete adaption of SBR.

Nov 16, 2022 12:34 PM

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It will take mappa llike 10 years to do SBR because the chances of them doing a full 50 episode series and airing that weekly is ZERO
unless you really want 12 episode seasons every 2 years

Nov 17, 2022 11:08 AM

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NikNob said:

kArtCam said:
If they reaaaalllyy need to make a lot of use of CGI because of the horses and other things, or at least collaborate with them, I mean, I love the work that David Productions has done with Jojo's all the way but man, there are two things that bothers me a lot:

1st: Why can't the anime be little more dynamic, like idk the 90s adaptation but 10 times more faithful to the manga, the studio is able to do amazing works like Fire Force but Jojo's, at least this season is just static af, unlike some scenes like Ermes defeating Sports Max (or Doppio vs Risotto from part 5) that i love, but man i almost couldn't take seriously the Jolyne vs Pucci battle where he starts the green baby ritual, the movments, the stands' attacks (like two frames repeating again and again), even the grass, everything just didn't look good imo.
2nd: Jojo's CGI isn't the best, and the CGI for this current season is horrendous, i mean, the frogs, the grass, manhattan transfer, white snake, the backgrounds, everything looks terrible imo, and well, i sugger Mappa to do it only because of that reason.

I just want, if the cgi is really necessary, to be good CGI and not Berserk-like CGI, the other option is give the animators horse anatomy lessons :"

It depends on time and budjet. JoJo is very appreciated anime especially the part 7 of jojo so i don't think they are going to rush it. They want to make it as good as possible and that's why david productions is the right choise over mappa in case of JoJo.

Who said that SBR is Appreciated ? It’s literally one of least popular parts in Japan with stone ocean

Nov 17, 2022 11:15 AM

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Yes!! Finally someone said it pucci vs jolyne was painful to watch i did expect it to be one of the best animated episodes in this batch but david kept disappointing us with every batch, and with repeated frames with emporio in epi 23-24 in literally in every scene dissolved and changing character’s design with Jolyne and miu miu in every minute but the first 6 episodes of 2nd batch were fine with some problems

Nov 19, 2022 2:25 AM

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mappa can't animate 2 naked guys throwing 4 punches for 15 seconds and you want them to animate jojo part 7 instead of the studio who animated hundreds of action episodes?
makes perfect sense

Nov 20, 2022 3:21 AM

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David pro is a good studio for jojo.
Their cgi was good most of the time in stone ocean, plus jojo anime won't be the same without their bizarre sound effects.

Nov 24, 2022 2:46 PM

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TomboyTamer said:
This is not entirely David Production's fault, remember that Netflix is one of the producers for Stone Ocean. The fact that Netflix was involved in the production process (such as the budget and release schedule of the anime) definitely has an impact on the quality of the anime.

I meant, MAPPA's Titan CGI looks "bad" because they were rushed to chasing the target that was ordered by the producer.

Netflix is just the licensor. The producer is Warner mainly.

Nov 28, 2022 6:00 AM

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if you are worried about cgi, and think part 7 needs it, wouldn't it make a 100x more sense to want orange to adapt it?

or better yet, for david to do a collab with orange?

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Nov 28, 2022 8:44 AM

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mappa adds too much unnecessary stuff in and cut some stuff out so i rather dp does the adaptation
and also if i'm not mistaken there are a lot of anime when they come out have problems like bad cgi or inconstancy with faces and etc, so they fix them up in the bluray release

Nov 29, 2022 4:38 AM

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PurPuleT said:
mappa adds too much unnecessary stuff in and cut some stuff out so i rather dp does the adaptation
and also if i'm not mistaken there are a lot of anime when they come out have problems like bad cgi or inconstancy with faces and etc, so they fix them up in the bluray release

But they didn't fix it in BD of SO.

Nov 29, 2022 7:13 AM

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I think DP alone could handle SBR given enough time and resources. To be honest the CGI isn't avoidable in the next part
DP's CGI isn't the best but it's also not horrendous, they can try collaborating with other studios though

Nov 29, 2022 9:37 AM

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Heavendominiom said:

PurPuleT said:
mappa adds too much unnecessary stuff in and cut some stuff out so i rather dp does the adaptation
and also if i'm not mistaken there are a lot of anime when they come out have problems like bad cgi or inconstancy with faces and etc, so they fix them up in the bluray release

But they didn't fix it in BD of SO.

ok now that's disappointing

Dec 1, 2022 12:39 AM

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Mappa is one of the most garbage studios to ever work, they are horrible

Dec 1, 2022 8:24 AM

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NEVER....I wouldn't let Mappa, Ufotable, BONES or even KyoAni(yes) touch SBR. DavidPro all the way. It just requires enough attention(like the one given for Golden Wind). NETFLIX should be completely out.... THAT'S IT

Dec 1, 2022 3:54 PM

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Why is Mappa in the mouth of every anime fan these days

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Dec 1, 2022 4:16 PM

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ZeemoXD said:

DoppiosFrog said:

I was so surprised to discover people were complaining about the CGI.

I mean it wasn't amazing for sure but it wasn't even that noticeable at first glance. I don't know why they used CGI on White Snake, i understand it with Chainsaw Man for example cuz the chainsaws are difficult to animate, but why for white snake?

Because of the pattern on White Snake. Animating that pattern moving around is super difficult.

Dec 1, 2022 5:18 PM

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they need to pull a hellsing ultimate and give us an ep every 6 months or smth

no

Dec 1, 2022 5:45 PM

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akiramado19 said:
Why is Mappa in the mouth of every anime fan these days

Because it is the McDonals of anime, well, McDonalds would be A-1 Pictures, MAPPA is more like the Burger King.

Dec 1, 2022 5:47 PM

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They should get the people who animated the horses in attack on titan to animate theme in sbr

Dec 1, 2022 5:47 PM

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Hey all Imma say is, I'm never trusting Netflix with Jojo again.

Dec 1, 2022 6:05 PM

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If the horses are so hard to animate, David Productions should just do what the folks at Monty Python did lmao.

Dec 2, 2022 5:05 AM

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SBR just needs to get Golden Wind treatment, this season had a lot of production problems and even this last batch was not entirely done by DavidPro, it was outsourced to a smaller studio

Dec 2, 2022 5:25 AM

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mappa would just use a bunch of of cgi

Dec 3, 2022 6:32 AM

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I think wit studio can do it, because they are really good with animating horses like this one https://youtu.be/kRWX9HLElRY

Dec 3, 2022 8:43 AM

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If David production drops the show, I doubt anyone else will be willing to do it. Even if mappa picks it, it's not coming before next 5 years.

Dec 3, 2022 8:46 AM

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misaka-9982 said:
mappa would just use a bunch of of cgi

Yes, the best cgi that anime industry has ever seen.

Dec 3, 2022 8:52 AM

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TomboyTamer said:
This is not entirely David Production's fault, remember that Netflix is one of the producers for Stone Ocean. The fact that Netflix was involved in the production process (such as the budget and release schedule of the anime) definitely has an impact on the quality of the anime.

I meant, MAPPA's Titan CGI looks "bad" because they were rushed to chasing the target that was ordered by the producer.

Titan cgi in pt 2 doesn't look bad at all. If you think this is bad then you don't really know how horrible cgi can actually look. It is some of the best looking cgi in the animation industry. Most of my friends who only watch mainstream anime shows did not even realize the difference between hand drawn and 3d, that's how good aot cgi is.

Dec 3, 2022 8:55 AM

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Nik03178 said:

TomboyTamer said:
This is not entirely David Production's fault, remember that Netflix is one of the producers for Stone Ocean. The fact that Netflix was involved in the production process (such as the budget and release schedule of the anime) definitely has an impact on the quality of the anime.

I meant, MAPPA's Titan CGI looks "bad" because they were rushed to chasing the target that was ordered by the producer.

Titan cgi in pt 2 doesn't look bad at all. If you think this is bad then you don't really know how horrible cgi can actually look. It is some of the best looking cgi in the animation industry. Most of my friends who only watch mainstream anime shows did not even realize the difference between hand drawn and 3d, that's how good aot cgi is.

Dude I'm not even watching nor have any interest towards AoT. I'm just quoting the 'bad' part since the CGI of Titan is a subjective things to say, some may say it looks awful, some may say it looks great.

Dec 3, 2022 10:02 AM

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kArtCam said:
If they reaaaalllyy need to make a lot of use of CGI because of the horses and other things, or at least collaborate with them, I mean, I love the work that David Productions has done with Jojo's all the way but man, there are two things that bothers me a lot:

1st: Why can't the anime be little more dynamic, like idk the 90s adaptation but 10 times more faithful to the manga, the studio is able to do amazing works like Fire Force but Jojo's, at least this season is just static af, unlike some scenes like Ermes defeating Sports Max (or Doppio vs Risotto from part 5) that i love, but man i almost couldn't take seriously the Jolyne vs Pucci battle where he starts the green baby ritual, the movments, the stands' attacks (like two frames repeating again and again), even the grass, everything just didn't look good imo.
2nd: Jojo's CGI isn't the best, and the CGI for this current season is horrendous, i mean, the frogs, the grass, manhattan transfer, white snake, the backgrounds, everything looks terrible imo, and well, i sugger Mappa to do it only because of that reason.

I just want, if the cgi is really necessary, to be good CGI and not Berserk-like CGI, the other option is give the animators horse anatomy lessons :"

u dont know what u talk about.

Dec 7, 2022 8:15 AM

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Stop asking MAPPA to adapt something, they already have too much project on their hand, i'd actually ask them to drop some project if its possible to let the other studio work some of them so that i can watch them with a sooner schedule

Dec 28, 2022 6:38 AM

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Nono no no no no no, i like mappa and all, but i dont want their grimy hands touching jojo. Jojo is not jojo without david production.

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