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Dec 20, 2009 12:56 AM
#101
"Avatar" is not only the best movie I've seen in years, but it combines an original and compelling story with revolutionary visuals, a surprisingly good romance, and great action. "Avatar" may give you your fill of an unoriginal colonialism plot-line, but understand that this is completely irrelevant to the enjoyment of the film. It may strike a chord as being "done before," but due to the fact that Cameron has created a world completely devoid of any third-party input, nullifies that gripe. Something I wasn't expecting myself to find when I stepped into the theater this Friday night, was a love story that's been done better than some (hell, most) romantic comedies this year, if not for many years' previous. It's hard to explain exactly "Why" it had such a great effect on me, but it probably boils down to the fact that this story might have been a love story in disguise. It might sound ludicrous, but each time our hero "plugs in" (especially during the latter portions of the film) he remembers what a life he has within his synthetic body; he's reminded of thoughts of the main heroine (I can not, for the life of me, remember her name). It may be the overly-simplistic or matter-of-fact way that the natives treat the ordeal, but it almost becomes like that of a forbidden love. And unrequited love is the most engrossing and interesting love to watch as a movie-goer; love that has a change of failing. The visuals were nothing short of:________ Unbelievable. You can really tell that five years went into making this film, and it has now become a measuring stick that other sci-fi or other visually-oriented films will have to compare themselves to. Too bad for them. I heard myself, as well as the friends and patrons around me inexplicably mutter "Wow" at certain parts within the film. People may argue that this is just another pretty face compared to all the other films that are so rich and deep, but I say that Cameron has found the ideal combination of both; a feat rarely seen in film: something gorgeous to look at, but not something you're gonna regret waking up with the next day. My review that I submitted to Rotten Tomatoes. |
Dec 20, 2009 3:23 AM
#102
got a little bit last samurai style. but i have to say it has been a long time since i watched a movie with such an potential. |
Dec 20, 2009 7:33 AM
#103
mezec said: The major plot hole with the ending. Humans wanting something that bad will be back with bigger guns. Where did Norm go/how did he survive? He was killed yes, but he was ejected from the pod into their movable lab. That later got smashed. No puma clan :( That's not a plot hole, that's a sequel waiting to happen, lol. As for your second question: Norm survived by either ejecting himself from his own avatar or because his avatar was killed, I don't know which. I think I read somewhere that the avatars in this film don't work the same way as in The Matrix, so if your avatar dies then you just wake up. But I'm not sure if that makes sense. Either way Norm doesn't die, you see him at the end carting the remaining humans off the planet. |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
Dec 20, 2009 7:39 AM
#104
Neodym said: got a little bit last samurai style. but i have to say it has been a long time since i watched a movie with such an potential. Well the whole "foreign soldier sent to destroy a culture but instead becomes engrossed in the culture" plot is pretty dated and nothing new. Dances with Wolves, Ferngully, and Pocahontas, The Last Samurai, and Avatar are all movies with that cookie cutter plot. But that's not why you're watching Avatar, thats not what Cameron intended back in 1994 when the screenplay was first drafted. His goal is the same as always, stunning visuals and incredible characterization. And in those aspects he delivered, again. But this time around he managed to help the film industry reach new heights in terms of CG Imagery. What with him funding CGI technology for years with his Titanic funds and all just for this movie. |
Dec 20, 2009 8:12 AM
#105
DoctorForHire said: Neodym said: got a little bit last samurai style. but i have to say it has been a long time since i watched a movie with such an potential. Well the whole "foreign soldier sent to destroy a culture but instead becomes engrossed in the culture" plot is pretty dated and nothing new. Dances with Wolves, Ferngully, and Pocahontas, The Last Samurai, and Avatar are all movies with that cookie cutter plot. But that's not why you're watching Avatar, thats not what Cameron intended back in 1994 when the screenplay was first drafted. His goal is the same as always, stunning visuals and incredible characterization. And in those aspects he delivered, again. But this time around he managed to help the film industry reach new heights in terms of CG Imagery. What with him funding CGI technology for years with his Titanic funds and all just for this movie. well spoken :) that last samurai stuff was just a annotation. as i said a movie with great potential. but i really have watched the movie cause of the story and not cause of the CGI effects :) i haven't seen any trailer and didn't read any critics. |
Dec 20, 2009 9:28 AM
#106
Beatnik said: As for your second question: Norm survived by either ejecting himself from his own avatar or because his avatar was killed, I don't know which. I think I read somewhere that the avatars in this film don't work the same way as in The Matrix, so if your avatar dies then you just wake up. But I'm not sure if that makes sense. Either way Norm doesn't die, you see him at the end carting the remaining humans off the planet. Yeah but... I know his "Avatar" dies. But weren't all three in the pods in the small movable research lab in the mountains. You know the one that got a window smashed open and the princess saved Jake with the mask. Where was he the whole time? |
Dec 20, 2009 9:32 AM
#107
mezec said: I know his "Avatar" dies. But weren't all three in the pods in the small movable research lab in the mountains. You know the one that got a window smashed open and the princess saved Jake with the mask. Where was he the whole time? Basically when he woke up in his human body again, in the mobile lab in the forest, we see him panting and shit. Then we cut to other action scenes, and then later we get another scene of him with his mask on, leaving the mobile lab with a machine gun. So remember in the last action scene, the bad guy smashes a pod and it's empty? Norm was already out blowing shit up in human form. |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
Dec 20, 2009 10:02 AM
#108
OH I FORGOT to express my opinions on Avatar. HNGGGGGGGG!! Loved it to bits. It had everything I could ever want in a movie! The graphics were outstanding, that whole world was breathtaking and I loooove the character's<3 Anyway I cried, laughed, pretty much felt almost every emotion and I want to see it again! It really impressed me, and the length didn't even bother me because I pretty much enjoyed every scene. The only thing I could say bad, would be the story was predictable and such but I mean everything else made up for it and made the movie fantastic anyway. I liked that everything happened the way it did. I really can't get over how PRETTY AND GORGEOUS IT WAS. GOODNESS! BUT CHYEA, LOVED IT 10/10. Oh, and I watched it in 3D and loved the effect too. I really like that style, gave it a lot more depth and it wasn't the 'IN YOUR FACE' type so I hope that's used more, it was just beautiful! |
Dec 20, 2009 11:44 AM
#109
Beatnik said: Basically when he woke up in his human body again, in the mobile lab in the forest, we see him panting and shit. Then we cut to other action scenes, and then later we get another scene of him with his mask on, leaving the mobile lab with a machine gun. So remember in the last action scene, the bad guy smashes a pod and it's empty? Norm was already out blowing shit up in human form. I see. I forgot about him deciding to be human Rambo then. Now I want to watch it again. |
Dec 20, 2009 12:01 PM
#110
mezec said: I see. I forgot about him deciding to be human Rambo then. Now I want to watch it again. His avatar had such a dopey face, lol. Kittenia said: OH I FORGOT to express my opinions on Avatar. HNGGGGGGGG! Glad you liked the movie kittenperson. It's pretty hard to cry with 3D glasses on though, huh? |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
Dec 20, 2009 2:00 PM
#111
I saw this movie today and it was oustanding! The movie I've seen in a very long while. Sure it don't have the most original story, but the movie made me care more about the characters, environment and action rather than a story. I hope there will be a sequel, perhaps which will include some blue baby aliens. |
Dec 20, 2009 4:25 PM
#112
Sasu-neko said: I saw this movie today and it was oustanding! The movie I've seen in a very long while. Sure it don't have the most original story, but the movie made me care more about the characters, environment and action rather than a story. I hope there will be a sequel, perhaps which will include some blue baby aliens. I don't think there's gonna be a sequel. This was more of a one-hit-wonder. But, hell, a sequel wouldn't be so bad to one of the best sci-fi flicks made, right? Lol. |
Dec 20, 2009 4:29 PM
#113
It's well on it's way to making a profit, so therefore profit = sequel. Cameron said so himself in interviews. The only question is when will it be released, but seeing as no script has been written, I'd say in three years time minimum. This is going to be Cameron's Star Wars basically, he's going to do the whole 'expanded universe' thing and everything. Expect lots of blue girls next Halloween. |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
Dec 20, 2009 4:43 PM
#114
Beatnik said: It's well on it's way to making a profit, so therefore profit = sequel. Cameron said so himself in interviews. The only question is when will it be released, but seeing as no script has been written, I'd say in three years time minimum. This is going to be Cameron's Star Wars basically, he's going to do the whole 'expanded universe' thing and everything. Expect lots of blue girls next Halloween. Cool! I gotta find that interview! |
Dec 20, 2009 5:14 PM
#115
HALLOWEEN! I jokingly said I wanted to paint myself blue and etc, rofl & actually it wasn't that hard to cry under the glasses except the occasional wipe away moved the screen. I hope that in the future glasses won't be needed for 3D movies, and it can be a pill we take or already some kind of aroma in the room that will affect our eyes! :D |
Dec 20, 2009 6:14 PM
#116
Jigero said: Looks like another multi million dollar flop to me, I think the blue people look comical at best and there is suppose to be some kinda love story going on, With these characters trying to be serious it's probably gonna look stupid. And when ever Cameron talks about it, I really just go, yea I could care fucking less. But the mechs are sweet how can you hate on them. ------------------------------------ And really I thought it was a bad ass movie? Why are there so many people ripping on it. |
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Dec 20, 2009 6:19 PM
#117
Jigero said: Looks like another multi million dollar flop to me Yeaaah, that kinda didn't happen. $232,180,000 after four days, and it hasn't even opened in countries like Japan, Germany, etc. You just cant doubt Cameron man, he always rakes the money in his whole career. Kittenia said: I hope that in the future glasses won't be needed for 3D movies, and it can be a pill we take or already some kind of aroma in the room that will affect our eyes! :D Ok, that sounds like a drug den Kitten, you're worrying me. You'd have to be committed to become full Avatard on Halloween or conventions, all that blue paint...tails... |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
Dec 20, 2009 9:10 PM
#118
I saw Avatar today and loved it. I also saw it for free since the theater ran out of 3D glasses... Meaning that they got me first in line for the next showing with a full refund of my ticket. :D The 3D was great, though a little awkward because I had to wear 3D glasses over my prescription glasses, but that didn't detour much from my overall enjoyment of the film. 10/10 |
Dec 20, 2009 9:15 PM
#119
Gin-iro said: I saw Avatar today and loved it. I also saw it for free since the theater ran out of 3D glasses... Meaning that they got me first in line for the next showing with a full refund of my ticket. :D The 3D was great, though a little awkward because I had to wear 3D glasses over my prescription glasses, but that didn't detour much from my overall enjoyment of the film. 10/10 ahaha. I had to wear glasses on glasses too, pretty weird man. It's a glorious movie though, even if my nose did get kinda itchy on both occasions. |
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Dec 20, 2009 10:09 PM
#120
I just saw it today, and loved it ... although, I have to say, James Cameron was a bit heavy handed on the tree hugging message. But other then that ... I loved it. also did anyone noticed that the Na'vi had african accents? |
The universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent. --- Carl Sagan |
Dec 21, 2009 1:06 AM
#121
i just saw it........and it was awesome way to go james.. i salute you XD this movie is in a different "league" |
Dec 21, 2009 6:35 AM
#122
JH said: also did anyone noticed that the Na'vi had african accents? The Na'vi were just a mishmash of every culture that's been colonised I guess. You had Africa, native American, Aussie Aboriginal, etc. The actors playing the roles were African Americans and also awesome actors like: Wes Studi. So yeah, very clichéd and meant for us to relate to. District 9 proves you don't have to physically relate to aliens for the movie to be compelling. Shit, E.T. proved it years ago and he's the ugliest alien of them all. |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
Dec 21, 2009 9:36 AM
#123
Beatnik said: District 9 proves you don't have to physically relate to aliens for the movie to be compelling. Shit, E.T. proved it years ago and he's the ugliest alien of them all. Hell! you can say that again! As for the Na'vi being a mishmash ... I didn't get that .... oh well. I had my christmas treat for the year. I'll just have to wait until it comes back at the dollar theater or on DVD because seriously at $15.00 a pop, and then theaters fucking you with outrageous prices at the popcorn stands ... I don't think I will be back at that price! It's not you, Mr. Cameron. You were wonderful ... it's the recession! v.v |
The universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent. --- Carl Sagan |
Dec 21, 2009 5:19 PM
#124
I actually know a few people on a friend level who helped animate the movie. I intend to see it asap. Few of my bros from Full Sail Universtiy swear by it, obviously as they worked on it. |
Dec 21, 2009 7:10 PM
#125
I really loved this movie! I will definitely try and see it in 3D. |
Dec 21, 2009 9:54 PM
#126
Meh, it was a good watch but a long one. The cinema's airconditioning almost put me to sleep if not for the loud sounds of "BAM!-ng" from the movie. Although, to be honest, I expected more. |
Dec 23, 2009 1:08 PM
#127
Just saw it. Not impressed, the plot was meh, the CGI was good, sure, but after the fifty millionth "running though undergrowth" I got a bit over it. And I'm a mech fan, so I normally have a very long willing suspension of disbelief, but I just didn't buy this movie. Unobtainium? Seriously? (that's not the big thing that broke disbelief, rather it was a lot of little things, but I can't be bothered writing them all) |
Dec 23, 2009 2:09 PM
#128
saw this movie last friday. It was a beautiful sight to behold. I didn't care so much for the story since it was predictable... |
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Dec 23, 2009 10:17 PM
#130
Dec 23, 2009 10:19 PM
#131
Haven't watched it. |
Dec 24, 2009 1:55 AM
#132
I saw Avatar yesterday morning (10:30 A.M.) with my friend and his little brother. We all enjoyed the movie very much, and thought it was kick ass awesome :). NOTE: We saw the normal 2-D w/e version, not the Real 3-D or Imax 3-D version. |
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Dec 24, 2009 8:48 AM
#133
I saw the Real 3-D movie the other day and i was very impressed with it. Thought this movie was amazing. I went to see the movie just for the visuals and action and got blown away with a compelling story and some very good characters. The plot may have had it's own cliche's in it and may have been predictable but it was overall a really good and engaging one at that. The thing that impressed me most about this film(Outside it's amazing visuals) was the fact that it kept me into the entire movie despite being three hours long. |
Dec 24, 2009 11:34 AM
#134
Dec 24, 2009 11:40 AM
#135
Ok, lets get some SPOILER TALK ALL UP IN THIS THREAD. What were your favourite moments? Favourite moment of the whole film: Stephen Lang's SHOULDER ON FIRE. Dude just ignored it like it was nothing. Yes, his role is so black and white, but he nails it completely. Every single thing he did in the movie cracked me up. I loved how excited he is in the final battle in the airship. "That's it! Light her up! Get him!" Another favourite moment is when Jake turns up with the BIG ASS RED DRAGON BIRD THING. Then he's like "I need you help bro" and the other dude is like "wtf", everyone's looking at him, there's a gigantic fucking red dragon behind Jake, the man who incidentally stole his woman, so what other option does he have? "I...I will fly with you..." LOL. |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
Dec 27, 2009 2:31 PM
#137
Dec 27, 2009 2:46 PM
#138
Dec 27, 2009 3:06 PM
#139
ukonkivi said: I can't take the blue people seriously~. Actually, everything that can be imagined already exists.. even if this is just a parallel reality, or bunch of them. :) And, wans one of the best ones from the many movies that I have seen. (as a consciousness changing stuff category). But even more lucky are those that can see it on IMAX 3D screens :D |
Dec 27, 2009 3:10 PM
#140
I'm going to see it this week. Seems nice ;d I saw trailer and I already like it ! <3 |
Dec 27, 2009 3:13 PM
#142
Well actually I waited for this movie.. and the first day it came of.. I was planing on watching it at the very evening... and even at such time that as it is length of three hours, it would be ending a half an hour after the midnight... and the other day were my exam... and I was thinking what to do.. anyways I gave my ticket to father so he would watch it, and felt not myself.. that I weren't there to watch it. And anyway, the very next day - I saw it after the exam :D hehe So by that I mean - I can't much understand ppl who are saying like "oh I will watch it this week".. come on... I would go there watch it as soon as I can :DDD |
Dec 27, 2009 3:15 PM
#143
This might actually end up as the most useless thread in the whole site. |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
Dec 27, 2009 5:48 PM
#144
Beatnik said: This might actually end up as the most useless thread in the whole site. Yup, most likely.. To be honest, Avatar can only be enjoyed to the maximum if you watch it in 3D at IMAX... |
" ... carpenters fashion wood; wise people fashion themselves" - Buddhism |
Dec 27, 2009 5:53 PM
#145
JessIsEpic said: Beatnik said: This might actually end up as the most useless thread in the whole site. Yup, most likely.. To be honest, Avatar can only be enjoyed to the maximum if you watch it in 3D at IMAX... But what I meant was that NOBODY IS ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THE MOVIE. I tried starting a discussion on the previous page but people are just going "yeah, I saw it here" or "no, I'm not gonna see it" or "i'm gonna see it next week!" MEH. |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
Dec 27, 2009 6:09 PM
#146
Yeah! Talk about how amazing it was! And how much you ADORED IT KSFG';LLKD!! Oh, and rumor or so has it that there is a plan on sequels? I think if the same quality and attention that Avatar got is also put into any kind of sequel, it would be equally as amazing! I wouldn't mind at all, because I miss Pandora already. |
Dec 27, 2009 6:16 PM
#147
Kitten to the rescue. Cameron said he's got ideas for a trilogy, and considering they've already animated so much, they'll have less work to do for sequels. I reealllly hope we get some. He also said we might explore other moons in that system, so that would be really cool too. Maybe the two moons can battle each other and we can get some space battles. What was your favourite moment of the film, Kitten? |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
Dec 27, 2009 6:28 PM
#148
OHH! So that's how it works, I thought maybe we would have to wait a few more years for a sequel since this one took so long! That makes a lot of sense, but that's really good news! I hope they do make a lot of money, and so far reviews seem just about right! My favorite, I think was definitely any part in Pandora. Like : When Jake had to get his "Ucraine" I think it was called? The bird dragon like creatures, the whole flying sequence was breath taking! I also loved when Neytri (?) and Jake started getting it on!! My eyes were so watery, the little flowy white things were everywhere and it was too pretty! Oh and destroying the big tree almost made me cry too, stupid evil man. Then the battle sequence! When everyone was fighting and things were getting so intense, I loved it. What was yours beat of Nick!? |
Dec 27, 2009 6:33 PM
#149
Kittenia said: My favorite, I think was definitely any part in Pandora. Like : When Jake had to get his "Ucraine" I think it was called? The bird dragon like creatures, the whole flying sequence was breath taking! I liked when he turned up with the red one, and that other alien dude had no choice but to follow the Holy White Man. "I will fly with you Jake...GODDAMN YOU." I also loved when Neytri (?) and Jake started getting it on!! My eyes were so watery, the little flowy white things were everywhere and it was too pretty! LOL. Everyone at my cinema started squirming, and some parents covered their kids eyes. Alien sex is still taboo! I liked when she kicked that other alien dude off Jake, pulled out a knife and hissed. I wish I had a woman like that! Oh and destroying the big tree almost made me cry too, stupid evil man. I loved every scene with that evil man, LOVED IT. But, when that tree fell, the emotion in the aliens' faces was amazing, basically the best CGI ever. EVER. What was yours beat of Nick!? The evil dude. His shoulder on fire. Everything he said. Everything he did. He's so sexy and cool. |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
Dec 27, 2009 6:48 PM
#150
You know what, I'm not gunna lie. That evil man was the perfect evil man. He was what every bad guy should be, the bad guys I grew up knowing. I thought maybe he would show the slightest emotion when he destroyed the tree, but nope. That showed me that maybe I shouldn't cry when he died, at that moment. When the movie started I kept my eye on him! I knew I shouldn't trust him too much or even I'd get hurt in the end! LOL, IT'S A TABOO! In my theater a few people squirmed but mainly there were some whispered "awhs" including mine, I want a woman like that too. Well I'm a girl so I guess a man version ya know? OHH YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE WAS AMAZING? Remember right before Jake showed up with the big papa Ucraine thing, the Na'vi people were all hooked in arms and moving in circles around the sacred tree? That looked so fun to do! They did it again later, but I kept moving in my seat because it was so mesmerizing!! And the CGI was outstanding of course! I really want to re-watch it soon! |
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