Only thing I don't like about shounen animes

Jun 1, 2022 1:17 AM

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Nen is not average battle system. It requires to be skilled with proper understanding of Nen to defeat any other character. You don't need to be stronger or experience than others to defeat them.

Uvo lost because he was ignorant. He never thought of using Gyo. Kurapika was smart. He analysed all of Uvo's weakness and used them in his fights.

Jun 1, 2022 1:22 AM

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sarthak_dms said:
I just finished watching episode 50 of HxH.
Uvo was a very skilled, powerful and experienced troupe who has already killed a lot of people. Killed 3 of the shadow beasts with ease. Even killua's father also told him to stay away from phantom troupe.
On the other hand it's been only 6 months since kurapica to use nen, had no experience at all in real world battle
Yet when both of them fought guess what kurapica killed uvo and with such ease. Only his left arm broke and uvo died.
So much years uvo spend mastering his skills got killed by a boy who learnt to use nen 6 months ago

Seems like you are sad about uvo's disappointing death but let me tell you that hard works and experience may beat talent but not always.

Kurapika is a prodigy with a really unique talent. Not to mention his conviction towards chain. It doesn't matter whether it real life or anime. Prodigies and Talents are simply hard to beat even more so if they have their own clear conviction and goals.

It's impossible for Gon and Killua, if they didn't drain their whole life for this. I mean Kurapika's emperor time also works in such a way but it's consequence are slow yet sure and irreversable.

Jun 1, 2022 1:24 AM

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kurapika could have easily killed the main leader too and i don't think nen works that way so that how much to train is directly proportional to strength except for inhancer abilities

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Jun 1, 2022 1:25 AM

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He lost because Kurapika had a contract. The contract basically turned him into a god if it weren't for that Kurapika would've gotten his ass handed to him.

Jun 1, 2022 1:28 AM

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Deku_kamado said:
kurapika could have easily killed the main leader too

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Not in a proper fight. Chrollo have some really cool abilities and he use them very well (you will realise if you read the manga).

Jun 1, 2022 1:28 AM

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Kurapika's ability is literally designed for fighting Phantom Troupe members and noone else.
Should he try to use his chains on someone else, he would die immidietly.
If you take this into account, he is quite weak.

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Jun 1, 2022 1:29 AM

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first of all, they didn't show kurapika's actual strength. and then Kurapika's chain jail can be only used on the phantom troupe members

Jun 1, 2022 1:31 AM

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Deku_kamado said:
kurapika could have easily killed the main leader too and i don't think nen works that way so that how much to train is directly proportional to strength except for inhancer abilities

There are so many things to consider while killing people, especially if it's a group with a lot of secrets. Kurapika is smart so he would be aggressive and blunder himself. He is aggressive when he needs to to tho.

Jun 1, 2022 1:31 AM

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flameartdotnet said:
He lost because Kurapika had a contract. The contract basically turned him into a god if it weren't for that Kurapika would've gotten his ass handed to him.

Yeah pretty much, it’s because he has the contract that he’s so easily able to kill the phantom troupe members. If he went head on with someone as strong as Uvo outside of the phantom troupe he’d probably loose.

Jun 1, 2022 1:58 AM

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kizuyomi said:

sarthak_dms said:
I just finished watching episode 50 of HxH.
Uvo was a very skilled, powerful and experienced troupe who has already killed a lot of people. Killed 3 of the shadow beasts with ease. Even killua's father also told him to stay away from phantom troupe.
On the other hand it's been only 6 months since kurapica to use nen, had no experience at all in real world battle
Yet when both of them fought guess what kurapica killed uvo and with such ease. Only his left arm broke and uvo died.
So much years uvo spend mastering his skills got killed by a boy who learnt to use nen 6 months ago

Seems like you are sad about uvo's disappointing death but let me tell you that hard works and experience may beat talent but not always.

Kurapika is a prodigy with a really unique talent. Not to mention his conviction towards chain. It doesn't matter whether it real life or anime. Prodigies and Talents are simply hard to beat even more so if they have their own clear conviction and goals.

It's impossible for Gon and Killua, if they didn't drain their whole life for this. I mean Kurapika's emperor time also works in such a way but it's consequence are slow yet sure and irreversable.

kurapika isn't prodigy but he's more of a genius not in nen though kurapika is much closer to average, not as average as leorio but he isn't a prodigy like gon or killua

Jun 1, 2022 2:00 AM

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kizuyomi said:

sarthak_dms said:
I just finished watching episode 50 of HxH.
Uvo was a very skilled, powerful and experienced troupe who has already killed a lot of people. Killed 3 of the shadow beasts with ease. Even killua's father also told him to stay away from phantom troupe.
On the other hand it's been only 6 months since kurapica to use nen, had no experience at all in real world battle
Yet when both of them fought guess what kurapica killed uvo and with such ease. Only his left arm broke and uvo died.
So much years uvo spend mastering his skills got killed by a boy who learnt to use nen 6 months ago

Seems like you are sad about uvo's disappointing death but let me tell you that hard works and experience may beat talent but not always.

Kurapika is a prodigy with a really unique talent. Not to mention his conviction towards chain. It doesn't matter whether it real life or anime. Prodigies and Talents are simply hard to beat even more so if they have their own clear conviction and goals.

It's impossible for Gon and Killua, if they didn't drain their whole life for this. I mean Kurapika's emperor time also works in such a way but it's consequence are slow yet sure and irreversable.

yeah it was actually very disappointing especially after such buildup and fight with shadow beast

Jun 1, 2022 2:03 AM

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Uvo had already been inflicted damage upon by the shadow beasts. Also Kurapika had the special ability of using his chain against troupe members only. So this gave him an advantage. If he didn't have the chain ability (which he got by making the contract) (ep condition x condition i guess) then he wouldn't have been able to defeat Uvo.

Jun 1, 2022 2:07 AM

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sarthak_dms said:
I just finished watching episode 50 of HxH.
Uvo was a very skilled, powerful and experienced troupe who has already killed a lot of people. Killed 3 of the shadow beasts with ease. Even killua's father also told him to stay away from phantom troupe.
On the other hand it's been only 6 months since kurapica to use nen, had no experience at all in real world battle
Yet when both of them fought guess what kurapica killed uvo and with such ease. Only his left arm broke and uvo died.
So much years uvo spend mastering his skills got killed by a boy who learnt to use nen 6 months ago

i think you're the first person to complain about this taht I've seen, so the only reason kurapika won is because his abilities are designed to take down the troupe plus he's a genius, the reason he won is because of 3 of his abilities taht being emperor time which allowed him to use all types of nen with full proficiency when his eyes are scalet (plus there is another drawback that is told to is very late in the manga), judgement chain, which can only be used against a member of the troupe do realize how much percentage of population that is, it should make cahin jail insanely strong, and on top of that his life is at stake if he ises it on someone else and taht adds to the power, last but not the least judgement chain with which he used to kill uvo, and that can only be used when emperor time is active and emperor time has a massive drawback which if you want i can tell you as it isn't in the anime and it happens after it

Jun 1, 2022 2:21 AM

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Did you forget that Kurapika made a contract with his nen or something like that? The contract basically said he’s a god when fighting the phantom troupe. He can really just one shot all of them. The catch is that the contract is of equivalent exchange. And the exchange for all that power that Kurapika got is that he can only use the power that he gained against the phantom troupe and only them. If he uses that power against someone other than the phantom troop he’ll die.

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Jun 1, 2022 3:11 AM

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Harsh_ahir said:

kizuyomi said:

Seems like you are sad about uvo's disappointing death but let me tell you that hard works and experience may beat talent but not always.

Kurapika is a prodigy with a really unique talent. Not to mention his conviction towards chain. It doesn't matter whether it real life or anime. Prodigies and Talents are simply hard to beat even more so if they have their own clear conviction and goals.

It's impossible for Gon and Killua, if they didn't drain their whole life for this. I mean Kurapika's emperor time also works in such a way but it's consequence are slow yet sure and irreversable.

kurapika isn't prodigy but he's more of a genius not in nen though kurapika is much closer to average, not as average as leorio but he isn't a prodigy like gon or killua

Well he does have talent for Nen with that kind of ability. He was able to keep up with other nen users with just his chains and he did that in 6 months so that means that he is clearly a prodigy. Not to mention his emperor time eyes is a legit special ability. Killua and Gon are one in 100 million but Kurapika is one of the special beings in this world with that kind of ability.

Also he has a lot of conviction towards his chain and he is certainly calm minded and not as aggressive as gon. His true powers can only be shown against phantom troupe but none the less it is an unmatched ability.

Uvogin was so easy to defeat because he was all powers and no brain (atleast compared to killua). Uvogin underestimated him badly and ended dead....

Even if his powers may not have raw strength or speed as compared to gon or killua. It is still an all rounder with insane tricks and his analysing skills and calm mind really helps makes him one of the most talented (or even a prodigy) in the entire story.

Jun 1, 2022 3:16 AM

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In fact this displays how unlike other shonen HxH is.

1. Kurapika is not THE main character yet he defeated the troupe whereas the mains took a backseat
2. Kurapika concentrated his skillset to apply to a group of 13 individuals as opposed to a world of billions. And imposed a death penalty (the 'what')
3. Even that wasn't enough for Togashi, he added a logical way to explain 'how' this came to be, and it was 'to impose zetsu on the enemy'.

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Jun 1, 2022 3:22 AM

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Yeah,and what did it cost him? His ability to fight.
This wasnt just a random powerup,it was reasonable.

Jun 1, 2022 3:24 AM

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kizuyomi said:

Harsh_ahir said:

kurapika isn't prodigy but he's more of a genius not in nen though kurapika is much closer to average, not as average as leorio but he isn't a prodigy like gon or killua

Well he does have talent for Nen with that kind of ability. He was able to keep up with other nen users with just his chains and he did that in 6 months so that means that he is clearly a prodigy. Not to mention his emperor time eyes a legit special ability. Killua and Gon are one in 100 million but Kurapika is one of the special beings in this world with that kind of ability.

Also he has a lot of conviction towards his chain and he is certainly calm minded and not as aggressive as gon. His true powers can only be shown against phantom troupe but none the less it is an unmatched ability.

Uvogin was so easy to defeat because was all powers and no brain (atleast compared to killua). Uvogin underestimated him badly and ended of dead....

Even if his powers may not have raw strength or speed as compared to gon or killua. It is still an all rounder with insane tricks and his analysing skills and calm mind really helps makes him one of the most talented (or even a prodigy) in the entire story.

i think i said the same thing, that kurapika is a genius but not in ne like gon and killua he's more average than kullua and gon, plus he's not liek sasuke as sauske would be considered a genius or someone gifted like gon but kurapika isn't really someone like them though as i said that he's above average, and his eyes don't make him broken it's all the conditions and his conviction that does, scarlet eyes in itself are no sharingan they itself aren't anything special in combat as not everyone would become a specailist or get emperor time, kurapika did taht though not for free as if he did taht without consequences then you could definitely call him a prodigy, even if there wasn't such insane condition but a more light conditions i would still consider him a prodigy but not with these conditions

Jun 1, 2022 3:30 AM

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Harsh_ahir said:

kizuyomi said:

Well he does have talent for Nen with that kind of ability. He was able to keep up with other nen users with just his chains and he did that in 6 months so that means that he is clearly a prodigy. Not to mention his emperor time eyes a legit special ability. Killua and Gon are one in 100 million but Kurapika is one of the special beings in this world with that kind of ability.

Also he has a lot of conviction towards his chain and he is certainly calm minded and not as aggressive as gon. His true powers can only be shown against phantom troupe but none the less it is an unmatched ability.

Uvogin was so easy to defeat because was all powers and no brain (atleast compared to killua). Uvogin underestimated him badly and ended of dead....

Even if his powers may not have raw strength or speed as compared to gon or killua. It is still an all rounder with insane tricks and his analysing skills and calm mind really helps makes him one of the most talented (or even a prodigy) in the entire story.

i think i said the same thing, that kurapika is a genius but not in ne like gon and killua he's more average than kullua and gon, plus he's not liek sasuke as sauske would be considered a genius or someone gifted like gon but kurapika isn't really someone like them though as i said that he's above average, and his eyes don't make him broken it's all the conditions and his conviction that does, scarlet eyes in itself are no sharingan they itself aren't anything special in combat as not everyone would become a specailist or get emperor time, kurapika did taht though not for free as if he did taht without consequences then you could definitely call him a prodigy, even if there wasn't such insane condition but a more light conditions i would still consider him a prodigy but not with these conditions

The fact that easily go up against Phantom troupe alone just with just these conditions is ridiculous and he is no way weak as he can also go against other Nen users with just chain (it may not be the strongest of them but still). As long as phantom troupe exist he still is strong. Neither Killua and Gon can do this...

Jun 1, 2022 3:43 AM

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kizuyomi said:

Harsh_ahir said:

kizuyomi said:

Harsh_ahir said:

kizuyomi said:

sarthak_dms said:
I just finished watching episode 50 of HxH.
Uvo was a very skilled, powerful and experienced troupe who has already killed a lot of people. Killed 3 of the shadow beasts with ease. Even killua's father also told him to stay away from phantom troupe.
On the other hand it's been only 6 months since kurapica to use nen, had no experience at all in real world battle
Yet when both of them fought guess what kurapica killed uvo and with such ease. Only his left arm broke and uvo died.
So much years uvo spend mastering his skills got killed by a boy who learnt to use nen 6 months ago

Seems like you are sad about uvo's disappointing death but let me tell you that hard works and experience may beat talent but not always.

Kurapika is a prodigy with a really unique talent. Not to mention his conviction towards chain. It doesn't matter whether it real life or anime. Prodigies and Talents are simply hard to beat even more so if they have their own clear conviction and goals.

It's impossible for Gon and Killua, if they didn't drain their whole life for this. I mean Kurapika's emperor time also works in such a way but it's consequence are slow yet sure and irreversable.

kurapika isn't prodigy but he's more of a genius not in nen though kurapika is much closer to average, not as average as leorio but he isn't a prodigy like gon or killua

Well he does have talent for Nen with that kind of ability. He was able to keep up with other nen users with just his chains and he did that in 6 months so that means that he is clearly a prodigy. Not to mention his emperor time eyes a legit special ability. Killua and Gon are one in 100 million but Kurapika is one of the special beings in this world with that kind of ability.

Also he has a lot of conviction towards his chain and he is certainly calm minded and not as aggressive as gon. His true powers can only be shown against phantom troupe but none the less it is an unmatched ability.

Uvogin was so easy to defeat because was all powers and no brain (atleast compared to killua). Uvogin underestimated him badly and ended of dead....

Even if his powers may not have raw strength or speed as compared to gon or killua. It is still an all rounder with insane tricks and his analysing skills and calm mind really helps makes him one of the most talented (or even a prodigy) in the entire story.

i think i said the same thing, that kurapika is a genius but not in ne like gon and killua he's more average than kullua and gon, plus he's not liek sasuke as sauske would be considered a genius or someone gifted like gon but kurapika isn't really someone like them though as i said that he's above average, and his eyes don't make him broken it's all the conditions and his conviction that does, scarlet eyes in itself are no sharingan they itself aren't anything special in combat as not everyone would become a specailist or get emperor time, kurapika did taht though not for free as if he did taht without consequences then you could definitely call him a prodigy, even if there wasn't such insane condition but a more light conditions i would still consider him a prodigy but not with these conditions

The fact that easily go up against Phantom troupe alone just with just these conditions is ridiculous and he is no way weak as he can also go against other Nen users with just chain (it may not be the strongest of them but still). As long as phantom troupe exist he still is strong. Neither Killua and Gon can do this...

did you not read what i said, tell me where did i say that kurapika is weak, not being a prodigy doesn't mean weak, if that was the case then 99.99% of nen users would be weak, not being a prodigy doesn't equal to being weak

Jun 1, 2022 3:53 AM

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sarthak_dms said:
I just finished watching episode 50 of HxH.
Uvo was a very skilled, powerful and experienced troupe who has already killed a lot of people. Killed 3 of the shadow beasts with ease. Even killua's father also told him to stay away from phantom troupe.
On the other hand it's been only 6 months since kurapica to use nen, had no experience at all in real world battle
Yet when both of them fought guess what kurapica killed uvo and with such ease. Only his left arm broke and uvo died.
So much years uvo spend mastering his skills got killed by a boy who learnt to use nen 6 months ago

it is because of nen,nen isn't a basic power system like chakra in naruto,it is quite different

kurapika made deal with his nen to use those chains only on phantom troupe and not on anyone else and if he do then he will die but if used on any member of phantom troupe the power of nen will become way stronger than usual + his power emperor's time give him freedom to use any nen type to as many extent as he wants, this much make it easier to kill uvo

and also there are many important things going to happen because of nen ( especially in chimera ant arc )

Jun 1, 2022 4:46 AM

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I guess that's because of the contract. As explained in the show, the contract kurapika made grants him enough power to defeat any member of the phantom troupe and phantom troupe only. Kurapika was able to defeat him because he's from phantom troupe. It would have meant instant death for kurapika if he used his chains to harm anyone else other than the phantom troupe. That's point of contract, that's what makes him Invincible in that battle. He can't use it on anyone else but the troupe.

Jun 1, 2022 5:13 AM

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Harsh_ahir said:

kizuyomi said:

Harsh_ahir said:

kizuyomi said:

Harsh_ahir said:

kizuyomi said:

sarthak_dms said:
I just finished watching episode 50 of HxH.
Uvo was a very skilled, powerful and experienced troupe who has already killed a lot of people. Killed 3 of the shadow beasts with ease. Even killua's father also told him to stay away from phantom troupe.
On the other hand it's been only 6 months since kurapica to use nen, had no experience at all in real world battle
Yet when both of them fought guess what kurapica killed uvo and with such ease. Only his left arm broke and uvo died.
So much years uvo spend mastering his skills got killed by a boy who learnt to use nen 6 months ago

Seems like you are sad about uvo's disappointing death but let me tell you that hard works and experience may beat talent but not always.

Kurapika is a prodigy with a really unique talent. Not to mention his conviction towards chain. It doesn't matter whether it real life or anime. Prodigies and Talents are simply hard to beat even more so if they have their own clear conviction and goals.

It's impossible for Gon and Killua, if they didn't drain their whole life for this. I mean Kurapika's emperor time also works in such a way but it's consequence are slow yet sure and irreversable.

kurapika isn't prodigy but he's more of a genius not in nen though kurapika is much closer to average, not as average as leorio but he isn't a prodigy like gon or killua

Well he does have talent for Nen with that kind of ability. He was able to keep up with other nen users with just his chains and he did that in 6 months so that means that he is clearly a prodigy. Not to mention his emperor time eyes a legit special ability. Killua and Gon are one in 100 million but Kurapika is one of the special beings in this world with that kind of ability.

Also he has a lot of conviction towards his chain and he is certainly calm minded and not as aggressive as gon. His true powers can only be shown against phantom troupe but none the less it is an unmatched ability.

Uvogin was so easy to defeat because was all powers and no brain (atleast compared to killua). Uvogin underestimated him badly and ended of dead....

Even if his powers may not have raw strength or speed as compared to gon or killua. It is still an all rounder with insane tricks and his analysing skills and calm mind really helps makes him one of the most talented (or even a prodigy) in the entire story.

i think i said the same thing, that kurapika is a genius but not in ne like gon and killua he's more average than kullua and gon, plus he's not liek sasuke as sauske would be considered a genius or someone gifted like gon but kurapika isn't really someone like them though as i said that he's above average, and his eyes don't make him broken it's all the conditions and his conviction that does, scarlet eyes in itself are no sharingan they itself aren't anything special in combat as not everyone would become a specailist or get emperor time, kurapika did taht though not for free as if he did taht without consequences then you could definitely call him a prodigy, even if there wasn't such insane condition but a more light conditions i would still consider him a prodigy but not with these conditions

The fact that easily go up against Phantom troupe alone just with just these conditions is ridiculous and he is no way weak as he can also go against other Nen users with just chain (it may not be the strongest of them but still). As long as phantom troupe exist he still is strong. Neither Killua and Gon can do this...

did you not read what i said, tell me where did i say that kurapika is weak, not being a prodigy doesn't mean weak, if that was the case then 99.99% of nen users would be weak, not being a prodigy doesn't equal to being weak

Honestly to me, simply above average is weak... Because what he is fighting against is impossible for an above-average person to achieve. You literally need to be in the top 0.1% to tackle the entire phantom troupe ALONE.

let's list his skill:
1) Analytical.
2) Calmness/Patience.
3) Scarlet eyes-Emperor time.
4) The chain that is clearly good.
5) special chains.

All while he is a teenager.
He is not just good. He is simply a top tier. In a way, prodigy.

Yeah he is no different from Gon and Killua, being able to tackle some of the most difficult threats.

It will be slower cause Humans are no chimera ants. Humans are worse.

Jun 1, 2022 7:31 AM

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Unlike most shonen, there was a well explained reason for this that was explicitly told in the show, but I guess you weren’t really paying attention???

Jun 1, 2022 7:47 AM

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