How much the ending will effect AOT?

Akash_11 said:
Will just an average ending downgrade the greatness and fandom of the show which has been a phenomenon in the anime community and mainstream media?

Akash_11 said:
Will just an average ending downgrade the greatness and fandom of the show which has been a phenomenon in the anime community and mainstream media?

Pred8r said:
Why so many forums on the same anime lmao

Akash_11 said:

why do you bother, just ignore

dasaska said:
Oh look, yet another thread about the AoT ending, I bet no one saw this coming. ı mean, why post under the already existing many many ending threads when you can make a thread about the same things for the 100th time, right?

Pred8r said:
It comes on my feed mate it's pretty annoying

Akash_11 said:

Lmao, your excuse is as lame as you

SenbeiPan said:

I remember saying the writing quality started to decrease after chapter 122, and the people who were drunk on the greatness of Ch. 120-122 attacked me. Then same people started to complain about the same things as me after chapter 139

Good times.



AoT will be known as GoT of anime

Tomek-Masiewicz said:
basically the ending is just a GOT reference

Pred8r said:
Tf ?
How is that excuse bruh ?
It's the truth people keep nitpicking about the smallest things of this anime
And did you even see how many threads there have been made in the last 24 hrs or are you just ignorant ? If so my bad then

SUPERX4PANDA said:
I hated the direction isayama took when the alliance was formed wished it was everyone on paradise vs the rest of the world.

Akash_11 said:

Ya, I totally ignore all threads I don't find interesting so should you... sorry if I offended you.

Mack_Yeager said:


Before the ending everyone just called every chapter of AOT a masterpiece
But after the ending even the chapters that were really good

Like night of the end ,thaw ,all became complain box ,that was the effect of the ending

Fans started hating everything ,but chapters like 130,131 are the ones that even haters can't hate it's just that perfect

Mappa did a really good job by stopping this season at ch 130 or 131 ,just that perfect for this s4p2
15/10

Fansofeverything said:
"its just that perfect" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

gosh, i mean i know they are good chapter but fcking hell AoT fans cant chill lmao

"perfect" my ass

Danpmss said:


Well, it that was the case (as in downgrading its greatness in the public eye), the manga's score in here at the very least would have had dropped down quite a bit, much like several other manga with terrible endings in the database. Instead it stood its ground with nearly the same score it had once the manga came to a conclusion even though people botted a thousand 1/5s in the last chapter in a single day as well as upvoting the poorest rated reviews to be on top.

See if any other manga that had it as bad or less than that didn't drop their score considerably. The reality of facts with Shingeki is that a vocal minority, which for the most part were hardcore Yeagerist fans hating on the "cringevengers", made a huge uproar because of the chapters following 126 (ignoring the existence of 127 basically addressing their very own criticisms through a full chapter of conversation lol). Ironically with the exception of 131, which basically shits on their arguments regarding a certain character arc.

So no, even if one was to consider it a "worst shit ever!" ending like those people did, the overall consensus for it would barely change at all, at least from what the most popular and most relevant anime database in the world can tell us (feel free to list another one if MAL doesn't apply to your own numbers, ofc).

As for in the anime community and mainstream media as a whole, if the manga's ending really was that terrible, it would have already downgraded the hype and following considerably. Yet, it stands above 9.00/10 as we speak, with whopping 700k people watching, including several manga readers (and if history repeats, that number will more than double once the anime finish airing, because of bingewatchers and people that wait for dubs in different languages).

Akash_11 said:
Will just an average ending downgrade the greatness and fandom of the show which has been a phenomenon in the anime community and mainstream media?

Fansofeverything said:
"its just that perfect" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

gosh, i mean i know they are good chapter but fcking hell AoT fans cant chill lmao

"perfect" my ass

Eren172632 said:
what are u talking about the manga rating dropped from 8.80 to 8.56 does that look like It stood its ground ?

Danpmss said:


It dropped from 8.82 to 8.50 long before the finale of the manga, around late 2014-mid 2017 (because everybody hated the politics arc for being boring and a pain to read monthly). It started increasing once again as we approached the basement reveal.

The score actually increased from 8.54 to what it is now starting from chapter 122.
122 - 8.54 (The chapter that begins the end, applauded by nearly everyone)
123 - 8.55
124 - 8.56
125 - 8.56
126 - 8.57 (Yeagerist doomposting starts to get big because "cringevengers")
127 - 8.57
128 - 8.58
129 - 8.59
130 - 8.60
131 - 8.61 (Best chapter period, as far as overall consensus in the community goes)
132 - 8.62
133 - 8.63
134 - 8.64
135 - 8.65 (From here, we are in the climax of the final battle, huge influx of readers)
136 - 8.70
137 - 8.72
138 - 8.74 (Which is the peak of Yeagerist seething at this point in time)
139 (just before leaks) - 8.77
139 (after leaks, before chapter) - 8.75
139 (after chapter, Finished status on MAL) - 8.68
From there, very slowly over the course of nearly a year, it reached 8.58, which is where it stands.

Was it to be an universally terrible final chapter that ruined the whole thing (considering all other chapters before it only increased the score), it would be soooo much lower.

Instead, what we got was an upset of people that wanted their headcanon to be real, and the people who liked it exactly how it was. and they made for a majority by a long shot in readership. Reception got progressively better over the months for the finale, even moreso the extra pages. The poll on itself for 139 had a bit more 5/5s than 1/5s, so in July of 2021 it got botted to oblivion with 1000+ 1/5s in a single day (the score also decresed a bit faster then).

You really know nothing about the score progression of this series if you think the score drop was that big, Shingeki never reached past 8.77 after the fall that begin in 2014. and the score only dropped any considerable amount after the ending, and it wasn't even by much, it still is very high.

It wasn't even the biggest drop the manga saw in this site for starters lol

Try checking out yourself if you doubt me:
https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://myanimelist.net/manga/23390/Shingeki_no_Kyojin

Danpmss said:


It dropped from 8.82 to 8.50 long before the finale of the manga, around late 2014-mid 2017 (because everybody hated the politics arc for being boring and a pain to read monthly). It started increasing once again as we approached the basement reveal.

The score actually increased from 8.54 to what it is now starting from chapter 122.
122 - 8.54 (The chapter that begins the end, applauded by nearly everyone)
123 - 8.55
124 - 8.56
125 - 8.56
126 - 8.57 (Yeagerist doomposting starts to get big because "cringevengers")
127 - 8.57
128 - 8.58
129 - 8.59
130 - 8.60
131 - 8.61 (Best chapter period, as far as overall consensus in the community goes)
132 - 8.62
133 - 8.63
134 - 8.64
135 - 8.65 (From here, we are in the climax of the final battle, huge influx of readers)
136 - 8.70
137 - 8.72
138 - 8.74 (Which is the peak of Yeagerist seething at this point in time)
139 (just before leaks) - 8.77
139 (after leaks, before chapter) - 8.75
139 (after chapter, Finished status on MAL) - 8.68
From there, very slowly over the course of nearly a year, it reached 8.58, which is where it stands.

Was it to be an universally terrible final chapter that ruined the whole thing (considering all other chapters before it only increased the score), it would be soooo much lower.

Instead, what we got was an upset of people that wanted their headcanon to be real, and the people who liked it exactly how it was. and they made for a majority by a long shot in readership. Reception got progressively better over the months for the finale, even moreso the extra pages. The poll on itself for 139 had a bit more 5/5s than 1/5s, so in July of 2021 it got botted to oblivion with 1000+ 1/5s in a single day (the score also decresed a bit faster then).

You really know nothing about the score progression of this series if you think the score drop was that big, Shingeki never reached past 8.77 after the fall that begin in 2014. and the score only dropped any considerable amount after the ending, and it wasn't even by much, it still is very high.

It wasn't even the biggest drop the manga saw in this site for starters lol

Try checking out yourself if you doubt me:
https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://myanimelist.net/manga/23390/Shingeki_no_Kyojin

Eren172632 said:
🤣🤣 I literally used way back machine stop lying 🤣🤣🤣

Eren172632 said:
It dropped by 0.1 the day it came out and 0.19 since it came out that's bad and are u trying to say only harcore Yeagerist hated on the ending 🤣🤣 ur making stuff up at this point. About 80% of the fandom hates it and the only reason the hype is there is cause people are hoping for aoe so nice try by making it seem like people actually like it

Eren172632 said:
the fact that u think mal shows how much people hate the aot ending already shows ur iq

Danpmss said:


Yeah, 80% of the readers hating it sure is very comparable to the score only dropping 0.10 LMAO

And I'm the one making stuff up, where are you even getting that percentage from, you hypocrite? lol



Yeah, my IQ of all things can be displayed by such a method, I don't think you know what IQ even is and how it's obtained, you should try better ad-hominems if you are going to use them for your lack of argument LMAO

MAL whether you like it or not is the most popular and relevant anime/manga database listing in the world for a while now. when it comes to data, it's both acceptable and also as accurate as you will get for a popular overview of how well something is being received in the west, rate-wise. Unless you have any other place from where to pull your argument from, of course.

Again, do enlight me if you may. Where exactly would you get YOUR data for overall popular reception of a community in regards to a given anime/manga property? I'll gladly compare the both of them, go on.

Eren172632 said:
ur actually an idiot 🤣 the fact that it even dropped means people don't like the ending and aot ending is hated on twitter youtube and reddit but like 90% of the people but ur trying to tell me I'm wrong and that MAL 🤣🤣🤣 proves aot ending isn't shit 🤣🤣

Danpmss said:


That wouldn't be true even using the botted poll on MAL as it stands currently:
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1912863
Nor SnK Reddit's (higher numbers at that):
https://www.reddit.com/r/ShingekiNoKyojin/comments/mmg2sl/new_chapter_spoilers_chapter_139_release/

Again, show me ANY EVIDENCE from where are you pulling these bullshit percentages of yours, if not out of your ass. You can't even back up your numbers, when this discussion is about community overview and consensus regarding the series after the ending. And you literally have nothing for an argument and couldn't disprove shit from what I've shown. LOL

Some ad-hominems, some imaginary percentages with zero evidence, and your own brain saying the ending is shit, that sure is rich now hahaha

Danpmss said:


That wouldn't be true even using the botted poll on MAL as it stands currently:
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1912863
Nor SnK Reddit's (higher numbers at that):
https://www.reddit.com/r/ShingekiNoKyojin/comments/mmg2sl/new_chapter_spoilers_chapter_139_release/

Again, show me ANY EVIDENCE from where are you pulling these bullshit percentages of yours, if not out of your ass. You can't even back up your numbers, when this discussion is about community overview and consensus regarding the series after the ending. And you literally have nothing for an argument and couldn't disprove shit from what I've shown. LOL

Some ad-hominems, some imaginary percentages with zero evidence, and your own brain saying the ending is shit, that sure is rich now hahaha

Eren172632 said:
,?? U proved its shit? Are u OK u pulled up a poll with everyone rating ch139 a 1 🤣🤣🤣🤣 are u disabled

Danpmss said:


Look at those percentages, and if you have the brain of a 6 years old learning math at pre-school (as I sure hope you do), you would know that the sum of the numbers doesn't make up for 80% of the people hating the ending, let alone 90%. And it was you who mentioned reddit LMAO

It's almost sad to see how you are reduced to just trying to call me names instead of making sense of such an incredibly basic argument... but then again, it's way funnier than sad, so I guess at the very least you are providing some laughs for everyone reading this lol

Danpmss said:


Look at those percentages, and if you have the brain of a 6 years old learning math at pre-school (as I sure hope you do), you would know that the sum of the numbers doesn't make up for 80% of the people hating the ending, let alone 90%. And it was you who mentioned reddit LMAO

It's almost sad to see how you are reduced to just trying to call me names instead of making sense of such an incredibly basic argument... but then again, it's way funnier than sad, so I guess at the very least you are providing some laughs for everyone reading this lol

Eren172632 said:
YoU hAvE nO eViDeNcE. So aot ending shited on youtube 24/7 isn't already evidence. All u have to do is use youtube for like a day and ur gonna see that everyone hates it and talking about twitter u should already know that no one likes ir there

Danpmss said:


WOW, some youtuber represents the overall opinion of an entire community as a single being. AMAZING!

You still prove nothing, show a youtube video saying they hate the ending, and you will prove people liked the video of one person hating the ending. Use at the very least the likes of said video, and you then may have any base for an argument on how many people agree on it.

You presented literally NOTHING STILL. Just empty claims backed up by not a single link/image/anything at all that aren't the voices from your head.

Eren172632 said:
bruh u showed a poll with 6k votes that proves nothing ur so dumb🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 go cry everyone hates the ending never knew aot ending get shited on youtube, reddit, and twitter meant it was good 🤣🤣🤣 and ur reddit thing proved nothing there's hella reddits about aot but u pull up 1 and they weren't even saying It was good 🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀💀💀🤣🤣

Danpmss said:


This is beyond hilarious, you keep missing the point still LMAO

The point isn't the number of people, but how many in the community are evidently hating the ending, versus those who are not, and if that number reaches your so called "80-90% oF tHe FaNs WhIcH cLeArlY hAtE iT!!!". And using the very platform you indicated I proved that the number is nowhere near that much.

For someone so adamant on saying that Youtube will tell me better while avoiding like the plague accepting RAW numbers from the community you mentioned yourself, you are sure not even trying to demonstrate how many people on youtube make part of such a percentage you are claiming to be real.

I call you a hypocrite, and you happily double down on it, what exactly makes youtubers saying things about their opinion any more reliable than the raw statistic numbers in polls and comments you see on MAL and Reddit regarding that of several others, anyway?

If I could give you a second name at birth, it would be Incoherent.

Eren172632 said:
ur right it's not 80% it's 70% don't cry now