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Jan 23, 2022 11:16 AM
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Or that it looks just as good. I genuinely don't understand in fact it's clearly noticeable that it's CGI and CGI never looks as good as hand drawn.
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Jan 23, 2022 11:34 AM
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It’s still cg bust it’s still good not as good as 2d is still good so I don’t care
Jan 23, 2022 11:34 AM
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It blends in a lot better than Part 1.
Jan 23, 2022 11:38 AM
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It is definitely obvious that it's cg sometimes. But it's still miles better than part 1.
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Jan 23, 2022 11:55 AM
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Well it's better than season 1 ig ... So let's hope for more better details...
Anyways not interested in AOT afterall what they did at the end .... I just loose interest in it....
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Exactly!!! The cgi is trash for a company that has so much money. I was disappointed for this overhyped show
Jan 23, 2022 12:09 PM
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The cgi is there and visible, there’s no denying that. Not noticing the cgi or animation in general doesn’t mean it isn’t visible. Some people are just so immersed in what’s happening so they fail to see cgi and stuff. They do notice it subconsciously, but they aren’t aware of it, because so much is happening to just focus on the animation alone.

This is my take on it. Dunno about the others.


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xdiogo630 said:
Exactly!!! The cgi is trash for a company that has so much money. I was disappointed for this overhyped show

Blind fanboyism is the worst, they refuse to see any flaws in a series that they like.
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Or that it looks just as good. I genuinely don't understand in fact it's clearly noticeable that it's CGI and CGI never looks as good as hand drawn.
it's definitely better this part, in particular Zeke's Titan is way better now. But I understand what ure saying, some of these ppl are just crazy and not only they are aot fans, but also MAPPA fanboys. lol it's just ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, for CG MAPPA is really doing great but CG is never as good as 2D
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xdiogo630 said:
Exactly!!! The cgi is trash for a company that has so much money. I was disappointed for this overhyped show


CGI is more expensive tho
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Dont care how "good" the CGI is.
CGI simply just does NOT belong with anime outside of video games.

It must be AT LEAST the same quality as Lupin the III: The First...
Jan 23, 2022 12:22 PM

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The cgi is better than Wits cgi. The cgi is very good in this season
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Rogerhunter said:
Or that it looks just as good. I genuinely don't understand in fact it's clearly noticeable that it's CGI and CGI never looks as good as hand drawn.
why can't you let people enjoy...if people are fine with the animation why do you have to poke your nose in between...like c'mon dude
Jan 23, 2022 12:29 PM
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While I noticed it was cg, it was so good how it blended with the background that it didn't make me think about it and just get invested in the actual show (which is what mal threads should actually be about)

Steins;Gate and AoT good
Demon Slayer bad
Jan 23, 2022 12:31 PM

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KKTheGamer said:
xdiogo630 said:
Exactly!!! The cgi is trash for a company that has so much money. I was disappointed for this overhyped show


CGI is more expensive tho
If it is then why does it look so bad hahahaha
Jan 23, 2022 12:44 PM
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Just enjoy the show bro. The CGI is definitely good. People focus too much on animation nowadays instead of the story
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cgi beast titan turns me on ngl
Jan 23, 2022 12:59 PM
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probably because they dont notice the cgi this season
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Rogerhunter said:
xdiogo630 said:
Exactly!!! The cgi is trash for a company that has so much money. I was disappointed for this overhyped show

Blind fanboyism is the worst, they refuse to see any flaws in a series that they like.


Or some people just don't put a premium on it like you do.

Attack on Titan puts out pretty good CGI. Far better than most shows do, and yet it's the only show that gets criticised extensively for doing it.

Have you seen '86? Some of the CGI is noticeably worse than anything AoT has put out this season so far, and I barely hear a single complaint about it.
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Episode 3 CGI looked incredible. At times, I couldn't even tell if the scene was 2D or 3D animated.
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I agree. I feel like some people are being blinded by hype and excitement and take the attitude "We should be glad we're getting anything." I'm still apart of the silenced group that misses the WIT Studio and wishes that MAPPA wasn't so excruciatingly obviously rushed when their other projects show what they can do. No doubt AOT is one of the greatest shows the medium has known and regardless of what people's thoughts are on the story endings or it's studio change, it's stapled itself as a great, but for me at least the visuals aren't the thing winning me over for this and it's carried solely by story and the precedent of context and earlier built up stories.

There are many awesome moments I can remember from earlier seasons where the music and visuals have swelled together to make iconic moments, however the show's iconic moments for this final season just don't hit as hard and makes me think what could have been. Still amazing, but the fandom proving once again that no one is allowed to think or enjoy things in their own way.

I for one hope FMA fans come out their caves to keep the war for #1 going when this show ends because it's more enjoyable to see people lose their shit over fantasy numbers and meaningless stats than just watching the show for me at this point. I believe people can enjoy the show and not care for the visuals because they're so invested in the story, but lets stop pretending that everyone is joint in arms with one sided praise and accept the fact once this show is over there will be debate among our own and criticisms to be made and that it's not trolling or hate to be constructive.
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samashi20 said:
Episode 3 CGI looked incredible. At times, I couldn't even tell if the scene was 2D or 3D animated.
rewatch it at 15:07 and tell me that's incredible cgi i dare you lol
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Episode 3 CGI looked incredible. At times, I couldn't even tell if the scene was 2D or 3D animated.
rewatch it at 15:07 and tell me that's incredible cgi i dare you lol

First off, the time-stamp isn't universal. It depends on the website you use to watch the show, for me 15:07 has no CGI. Let's suppose the CGI looks bad as you claim it to be, have you not seen the rest? One mistake or flaw in one scene and you're all freaking out and dragging the studio through the fucking floor. Chill a bit.
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Jan 23, 2022 1:33 PM
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I mean I noticed it almost immediately, although it doesnt bother me at all. I think the CGI looks way better than in part 1.
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That's like, your opinion, man.

Just drop it if you don't like it.
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samashi20 said:
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rewatch it at 15:07 and tell me that's incredible cgi i dare you lol

First off, the time-stamp isn't universal. It depends on the website you use to watch the show, for me 15:07 has no CGI. Let's suppose the CGI looks bad as you claim it to be, have you not seen the rest? One mistake or flaw in one scene and you're all freaking out and dragging the studio through the fucking floor. Chill a bit.
I enjoyed berserk 2016 so bad cgi is not a problem for me, but on the other hand you can't call the cgi in aot incredible, i'm more chill than annie in the ice cocoon lol
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i didnt even notice the change between season 3 and season 4 part 1. i just do not care. it looks fine. it'd be a problem if it was offensively bad, but let's be real - no one is watching attack on titan for the animation - it does not matter if the animation is just fine or great.
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Like why are we still talking about this? Part 1 was already CGI so I don't know what else people are expecting and bringing it up where you already have a ton of that "same" complaint last season. What makes the CGI different this season that is worth bringing it up "now" when you have the previous entrees that is also CGI?



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KKTheGamer said:
xdiogo630 said:
Exactly!!! The cgi is trash for a company that has so much money. I was disappointed for this overhyped show


CGI is more expensive tho
Nope, just the Titan model is expensive
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xdiogo630 said:
Exactly!!! The cgi is trash for a company that has so much money. I was disappointed for this overhyped show
You clearly don’t know how this works, it’s not MAPPA’s fault that they had to animate with CGI models , it’s because of the time they were given to animate the season , also the production companies PAY the studio for it to make the anime , it’s not a matter of how much money they have , if they were given more time it would have been completely 2D (probably), also, I’m not defending the CGI, sometimes it looks pretty bad , and sometimes it blends pretty well , just saying.
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Dont care how "good" the CGI is.
CGI simply just does NOT belong with anime outside of video games.

It must be AT LEAST the same quality as Lupin the III: The First...
Well, the problem is when the characters are CGI Models instead of hand drawn, like in this case , many studios animate with lots of CG in the background and make them look gorgeous, like WIT Studio or Ufotable.
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Joche1 said:
xdiogo630 said:
Exactly!!! The cgi is trash for a company that has so much money. I was disappointed for this overhyped show
You clearly don’t know how this works, it’s not MAPPA’s fault that they had to animate with CGI models , it’s because of the time they were given to animate the season , also the production companies PAY the studio for it to make the anime , it’s not a matter of how much money they have , if they were given more time it would have been completely 2D (probably), also, I’m not defending the CGI, sometimes it looks pretty bad , and sometimes it blends pretty well , just saying.
Demon Slayer had the same amount of time and look what they did. And attack on titan has made more money than demon slayer so that's not an excuse. It's just being lazy
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xdiogo630 said:
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You clearly don’t know how this works, it’s not MAPPA’s fault that they had to animate with CGI models , it’s because of the time they were given to animate the season , also the production companies PAY the studio for it to make the anime , it’s not a matter of how much money they have , if they were given more time it would have been completely 2D (probably), also, I’m not defending the CGI, sometimes it looks pretty bad , and sometimes it blends pretty well , just saying.
Demon Slayer had the same amount of time and look what they did. And attack on titan has made more money than demon slayer so that's not an excuse. It's just being lazy


Clearly, MAPPA's main work is Jujutsu Kaisen.

AoT is just a side hustle they picked up along the way. CGI saved a lot of time so that fans can get to watch new season as soon as possible in exchange. At least we get to watch it right now.
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xdiogo630 said:
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You clearly don’t know how this works, it’s not MAPPA’s fault that they had to animate with CGI models , it’s because of the time they were given to animate the season , also the production companies PAY the studio for it to make the anime , it’s not a matter of how much money they have , if they were given more time it would have been completely 2D (probably), also, I’m not defending the CGI, sometimes it looks pretty bad , and sometimes it blends pretty well , just saying.
Demon Slayer had the same amount of time and look what they did. And attack on titan has made more money than demon slayer so that's not an excuse. It's just being lazy


Exactly and I don't mind some cgi use, and it can certainly be done well, but the fact that its often done SO horribly and looks so insanely out of place is what makes it bad.
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Or that it looks just as good. I genuinely don't understand in fact it's clearly noticeable that it's CGI and CGI never looks as good as hand drawn.
it's definitely better this part, in particular Zeke's Titan is way better now. But I understand what ure saying, some of these ppl are just crazy and not only they are aot fans, but also MAPPA fanboys. lol it's just ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, for CG MAPPA is really doing great but CG is never as good as 2D

Dont worry aot fans have diminished after the manga end you will see our agony very soon :(
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Because saying that the CGI is not that good in MAL huts MAPPA employees that are exploited, or something. So criticism is bad unless we all agree that something is bad, like Ex-Arm or something



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You use a scene from part 1 that doesn't even look bad and use it as a comparison to the absolute monster improvement in part 2? Every second this fandom loses more brain cells
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xdiogo630 said:
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You clearly don’t know how this works, it’s not MAPPA’s fault that they had to animate with CGI models , it’s because of the time they were given to animate the season , also the production companies PAY the studio for it to make the anime , it’s not a matter of how much money they have , if they were given more time it would have been completely 2D (probably), also, I’m not defending the CGI, sometimes it looks pretty bad , and sometimes it blends pretty well , just saying.
Demon Slayer had the same amount of time and look what they did. And attack on titan has made more money than demon slayer so that's not an excuse. It's just being lazy


Oh look, another dumbass that doesn't understand a single shit about anime production, but tends to diminish the efforts of the people involved and act like a smartass.
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it's definitely better this part, in particular Zeke's Titan is way better now. But I understand what ure saying, some of these ppl are just crazy and not only they are aot fans, but also MAPPA fanboys. lol it's just ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, for CG MAPPA is really doing great but CG is never as good as 2D

Dont worry aot fans have diminished after the manga end you will see our agony very soon :(
I actually really liked the ending myself, the fandom will be alot smaller after the anime ending though, I agree on this
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Demon Slayer had the same amount of time and look what they did. And attack on titan has made more money than demon slayer so that's not an excuse. It's just being lazy


Oh look, another dumbass that doesn't understand a single shit about anime production, but tends to diminish the efforts of the people involved and act like a smartass.
Bro you can't say that they couldn't do a better job. Stop riding
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Demon Slayer had the same amount of time and look what they did. And attack on titan has made more money than demon slayer so that's not an excuse. It's just being lazy


Clearly, MAPPA's main work is Jujutsu Kaisen.

AoT is just a side hustle they picked up along the way. CGI saved a lot of time so that fans can get to watch new season as soon as possible in exchange. At least we get to watch it right now.
Bro how can Jujitsu Kaisen be Mappa's main focus when AOT is one of the biggest animes in the world. Excuses
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You clearly don’t know how this works, it’s not MAPPA’s fault that they had to animate with CGI models , it’s because of the time they were given to animate the season , also the production companies PAY the studio for it to make the anime , it’s not a matter of how much money they have , if they were given more time it would have been completely 2D (probably), also, I’m not defending the CGI, sometimes it looks pretty bad , and sometimes it blends pretty well , just saying.
Demon Slayer had the same amount of time and look what they did. And attack on titan has made more money than demon slayer so that's not an excuse. It's just being lazy
First of all, I don’t know which Demon Slayer season you are referring to, if it is the first one, they had plenty of time of pre production and Ufotable studio holds like 2 projects at a time, unlike MAPPA who is working like in 7 different projects, then the movie released in October 2020, they had a whole year and a month to make the movie , then for the second season , they released Mugen Train with an extra episode and then 11 episodes of actual NEW content , so they had almost a year and three months for just 11 episodes , so then MAPPA for the Final season part 1 (16 episodes) had 10 MONTHS to make it and , for the final season part 2 , they had again 8 MONTHS, it’s not lazyness, also demon slayer animation is beautiful but it’s not as HARD and as difficult to animate as AOT final season because of the chaos and the war it’s literally the climax point of the whole series and if you read the manga you know they have a tight work because of what’s to come , so please inform yourself before commenting.
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You use a scene from part 1 that doesn't even look bad and use it as a comparison to the absolute monster improvement in part 2? Every second this fandom loses more brain cells
I think his point is something else, like how ppl are simping for MAPPA saying their CG is better than wit's 2D
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Joche1 said:
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Demon Slayer had the same amount of time and look what they did. And attack on titan has made more money than demon slayer so that's not an excuse. It's just being lazy
First of all, I don’t know which Demon Slayer season you are referring to, if it is the first one, they had plenty of time of pre production and Ufotable studio holds like 2 projects at a time, unlike MAPPA who is working like in 7 different projects, then the movie released in October 2020, they had a whole year and a month to make the movie , then for the second season , they released Mugen Train with an extra episode and then 11 episodes of actual NEW content , so they had almost a year and three months for just 11 episodes , so then MAPPA for the Final season part 1 (16 episodes) had 10 MONTHS to make it and , for the final season part 2 , they had again 8 MONTHS, it’s not lazyness, also demon slayer animation is beautiful but it’s not as HARD and as difficult to animate as AOT final season because of the chaos and the war it’s literally the climax point of the whole series and if you read the manga you know they have a tight work because of what’s to come , so please inform yourself before commenting.
It's been a year since the AOT final season part 1 plus this season is not confirmed to be longer than 12 eps because people think MAPPA will try to do another money move and make a movie to finish off the series. ANDDDD Mappa is a bigger studio with more money, same amount of time, same length of seasons
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xdiogo630 said:
Exactly!!! The cgi is trash for a company that has so much money. I was disappointed for this overhyped show
they might have a lot of money but they had only one year to animate everything and it still looks prettybdamn good
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Because it was rendered, timed, and had better compositing than the regular CGI you see in anime that it does look like 2D in some instances. It ain't superior to 2D, that's for sure, but credit where it's due. There are very few 2D anime out there which utilized CGI in a delicate manner such as this, not even anime movies have CGI that meshed that well with 2D, save for Paprika, Redline, and GiTS Innocence.

It's not a matter of fanboyism or anything. It's an objective take for better or for worse. Let's be real though - irrespective of the studio, just how many 2D titles for TV out there has the same or better CGI than this? I can only think of Fate and DS.
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The CGI in Part 2 is noticeably better and you can't even notice it half of the time. Blends better and everything. If only MAPPA had more time when doing Part 1.

Even the CGI in Part 1 wasn't even that bad. Was it noticeable? Yeah, but it looked pretty good so I didn't really care.
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xdiogo630 said:
Exactly!!! The cgi is trash for a company that has so much money. I was disappointed for this overhyped show
You don't know how much time it'd take to draw the titans by hand all the time. Apparently even WIT was considering doing CGI for the titans as well. Even they used CGI for the Colossal Titan, and it looked pretty bad compared to what MAPPA has done.

It's a good time saving technique, and as you can see in Part 2, it looks really good. If you think this is trash CGI, then you haven't seen actual trash CGI.

The CGI only looked not too great in Part 1 because I'm pretty sure that the show was animated in less than a year. It's not their fault. Also, the CGI in Part 1 was outsourced.
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Not the same amount of time like certain someone above said.

They were prioritizing animation on JJK as they picked up AoT s4p1.
They were focusing on JJK0 movie while AoT s4p2 tv was in production.
Right after they done with JJK0, it's Chainsaw Man (2022) as the next project while working on AoT s4p2

Is MAPPA picking up too many shows? Yes

Money can't buy time.
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