This series got way too much hate

pluginfish said:
The 3D animation especially the face is just terrible. It talks like a fxxking barbie doll. It reminds me of those H game animation 10 years ago and I’m quite sure illusion has done a better job than SAC 2045. I don’t mind 3D animation. Netflix has done a lot of Anime style 3D animations which I’m totally fine with them.

Tyrannicswine117 said:
I can understand why people didn't like this series because of the change from 2D animation to 3D CGi animation. Honestly though if anyone out there who has watched Code Lyoko knows that this CGI isn't bad at all, actually it's pretty damn good. The fight scenes are definitely improved as the animators can do more fluid movements compared to 2D and the Tachikoma's look awesome.

The characters are still the same badasses as ever. Although some of the new characters like Purin pissed me off with her constant affection towards Batou. Other than that the characters were great.

The way the world has changed since the previous SAC series shows how fragile the economic system can be with the new threat of the Post-Humans, which is an interesting enemy compared to previous problems like the Laughing Man and Gouda since it still concentrates on humanitarian issues. Yeah 12 episodes isn't enough for a whole story, but it was good enough to set it up.

I think fans got angry because the show was in a format it hasn't been in before, true it wasn't as good compared to the previous SAC series, but considering it was only half of a series and season 2 eventually coming I think it did well for 12 episodes. It just doesn't deserve a low score just because of its new direction in animation when other shows have done far worse with it's CGI and animations

Animaniaig said:


People don’t hate it because of the CG. They hate it because it abandons what GITS is and goes all in on worthless action rather than the interesting dialogue, discussion and philosophy that the series is known for.

Berserker_Pickle said:
Yes, someone else hit it on the head here. The cg animation isn't the issue, it's not that bad. Okay it's a bit static at times, but the models aren't the worst. There were more pressing issues with direction, cinematography and oh boy, the writing... The first 4 episodes of this series are just bad.

Uninteresting, poorly explored new characters, clunky, exposition-filled dialogue... this show was off to a rough start. Thankfully it ended strong, and the second half of the season was pretty solid, so I'm hopeful for season 2.

Tyrannicswine117 said:
Exposition filled dialogue has been a thing since the original SAC series.

Tyrannicswine117 said:
That's what I mean, everyone is so focused on the CGI that they forget about the bigger picture.

Stygian_Prisoner said:
Yeah, I agree. I mean, it's far from the best of the franchise, but I don't think it's straight-up terrible either.

The 3DCG animation didn't bother me at all, though that may just be 'cause I sat through all of Berserk 2016/17... when you hit that rock bottom, you can only go up.

If nothing else, I'm actually kinda glad that this series exists... because, at the very least, it helped wash the bad taste of the Arise series out of my mouth. I couldn't stand the thought of those titles being the last of GitS that I had seen.

Tyrannicswine117 said:
Yeah the story definitely fit the series and even the original dub VA's came back which is great. My only big issue was the new girl they introduced who was so annoying

Stygian_Prisoner said:


Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that! I love that they brought back the original English voice cast from the previous SACs after all these years. Especially Mary Elizabeth McGlynn, whose authoritative voice I find sooo sexy.

Their work for this franchise has always been super solid, and this entry was no different in that regard.

El-Melloi said:
I just hate that they're making me wait more than 2 years for the second cour, I really want to know what happened there.

Tyrannicswine117 said:
Takes time to make an anime, this is nothing compared to other show waiting times

AshenOne65 said:
I actually enjoyed the plot and i want to know what is going to happen in the next season

different from laughing man's arc this one i'm understanding what's going on.

I finished the first season of Standalone Complex and I didn't understand a thing.

actually I don't really like Ghost in the shell, I just like the aesthetics of the original movie

Animaniaig said:


People don’t hate it because of the CG. They hate it because it abandons what GITS is and goes all in on worthless action rather than the interesting dialogue, discussion and philosophy that the series is known for.

BASEDKILLERREAD said:


I agree for the most part, but I do think the premise is at least something interesting. I couldnt watch arise because it felt like SAC season 2 prequel stories, but as action Schlock. While SAC_2045 seems to be trying to tell something about Togusa and the current state of humanity, especially with the premise of, why are these humans so much more advanced with robot and how does that relate the global economic crisis at large. I think theres an argument there to be said that the og SAC abandons what GITS og movie is. I love SAC and the OG movie, although its been awhile since I've seen the show. The movie is like top 5 anime movie and the show is probably top 5 animated shows for me. 2045 isnt the greatest anime but it feels like a better and even cerebral continuation of GITS especially when comparing it to Arise. Tbf I've only watched the Arise 3 movie.