Isayama admitted in the latest interview that the theme of the last part was beyond his ability and he truly regretted it that he wasnโt able to do a better job expressing it.
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Apr 30, 2021 3:19 PM
#1
| Isayama's interview leaked by zekken(roughly translated) Interview of Isayama: full content will be published on June 9 The final volume(school caste included), will add about 8 pages (can only add this many pages to a manga volume) The final page of 139: Isayama's original design has five grids and is divided into very detailed sections. It was supposed to show three people* walking towards a tree on the hillside. After discussing with the editor, however, Isayama changed the draft. The closer to the final chapter, the harder Isayama would try searching for reviews and comments online. Although Armin in manga might seems to be approving massacre, Isayama thinks it is due to his lack of writing. Eren's actions are the worst of worst, and Armin does not approve of them. Judging from the results, Armin is the beneficiary of the massacre. Although Armin can't understand this final farewell with Eren, he still wants to use the sentence "thank you (for us) for being a murderer" to show that he is an accomplice of Eren, so as to get closer to him. For Isayama, the last part of the manga is a difficult theme beyond his ability. Isayama feels that he has not been able to fully express these themes with the manga, so he regrets it Isayama's favorite action scene is the scene when jaw titan grabbed AT in ch.104. he thinks this scene is the peak of his own drawing. This is also why there is no more big action scenes after ch.104 Isayama's favorite chapter: Although the chapter itself is not quite like the usual style of aot, Isayama enjoys the difference. Ch.69 "friends" is his favorite. 69 and 71, are not following the main plot, but focusing on the story of individual characters, he drew them with the feeling of drawing a short, one-chapter manga Isayama was happiest when he was drawing the beginning of Marley arc-chapter 91 battle scene. He drew them with extreme concentration and strength. Now that this serial is over, Isayama is free. He wanted to walk on the street with a glass in his hand This is what Isayama thinks of as freedom. Credits to u/SparrowJump |
Apr 30, 2021 3:29 PM
#2
| Hacksayama literally admitted it himself in the interview that he couldn't land the ending properly (whatever it was that he wanted to say, shitty writing, and the fact that he regrets it). Also, the editor intervened for the final panel. Now how do you guys defend the ending lmao? |
Apr 30, 2021 3:35 PM
#3
ccrsxx said: Not full report but only leaks. We only saw that he only addressed “Thank you for being mass murderer” line which is the only seemingly concern in Japanese community so we can’t know if he admitted to many other trash parts of his writing in the last arc or not. Ending defenders can still continue being full of themselves as they keep strawmanning the rest of the endingHacksayama literally admitted it himself in the interview that he couldn't land the ending properly (whatever it was that he wanted to say, shitty writing, and the fact that he regrets it). Also, the editor intervened for the final panel. Now how do you guys defend the ending lmao? |
Apr 30, 2021 4:02 PM
#4
| 8 extra pages... interesting. Hope Yelena is showed, at least. So the original final page design matches the chapter's title. Well, so he revealed that Armin thanking Eren didn't mean Armin accepted mass-murdering. So after regretting with the difficulty in the last part theme, does he think he'll fix the ending by those extra 8 pages? |
Apr 30, 2021 4:05 PM
#5
| I guess it'll shut up a few fanboys if anything. Only hopium left is for an anime original ending, though I doubt that's happening lmao. |
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Apr 30, 2021 4:07 PM
#6
Gloomy-eyes said: he said he couldn't bring the themes he build up in the previous arcs to a good conclusion, the ending sucks and he admits that. Well he cant say the ending is bad in a way like we do, its still his story and he still have a contract with Kodanshaccrsxx said: Not full report but only leaks. We only saw that he only addressed “Thank you for being mass murderer” line which is the only seemingly concern in Japanese community so we can’t know if he admitted to many other trash parts of his writing in the last arc or not. Ending defenders can still continue being full of themselves as they keep strawmanning the rest of the endingHacksayama literally admitted it himself in the interview that he couldn't land the ending properly (whatever it was that he wanted to say, shitty writing, and the fact that he regrets it). Also, the editor intervened for the final panel. Now how do you guys defend the ending lmao? |
| Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Apr 30, 2021 4:08 PM
#7
| It's better than "yeah I felt like the ending came out well" |
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Apr 30, 2021 4:24 PM
#8
| I’m surprised he would even admit it. Not sure how 8 pages could save anything with the ending set in place so I’m not getting my hopes up for it. |
Apr 30, 2021 4:26 PM
#9
| I'm glad isyama can have more of a life now |
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Apr 30, 2021 4:53 PM
#10
| I would wholly support delaying the final season of the anime until Isayama can create an ending he's truly satisfied with to send off AoT properly. |
Apr 30, 2021 4:54 PM
#11
Bayek said: that hack dont care anymoreI would wholly support delaying the final season of the anime until Isayama can create an ending he's truly satisfied with to send off AoT properly. |
| Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Apr 30, 2021 4:56 PM
#12
yaegerist-15 said: Bayek said: that hack dont care anymoreI would wholly support delaying the final season of the anime until Isayama can create an ending he's truly satisfied with to send off AoT properly. You are here too??? xD this guy is desperate and scarily obsessed with AOT and Isayama |
Apr 30, 2021 4:58 PM
#13
imbAF said: seems like I have a new fanboy here yaegerist-15 said: Bayek said: I would wholly support delaying the final season of the anime until Isayama can create an ending he's truly satisfied with to send off AoT properly. You are here too??? xD this guy is desperate and scarily obsessed with AOT and Isayama |
| Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Apr 30, 2021 5:13 PM
#14
yaegerist-15 said: seems like I have a new fanboy here Standing against insulting the author isn't being fanboy. You're welcome to criticize the manga as much as you'd like, but stop calling the author stupid names. |
Apr 30, 2021 5:18 PM
#15
Apr 30, 2021 5:41 PM
#16
| Isayama, you are free |
Apr 30, 2021 5:49 PM
#17
WTTC2 said: the author wasted 8 years of my time and listened to some shipping fancics instead of writing his story he had in mind. He lost all my respect and I was sucking his dick till chapter 135/136yaegerist-15 said: seems like I have a new fanboy here Standing against insulting the author isn't being fanboy. You're welcome to criticize the manga as much as you'd like, but stop calling the author stupid names. |
| Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Apr 30, 2021 7:44 PM
#18
| so that's why it'd feel like Isayama didn't write the last chapter... looking forward to June 9 |
Apr 30, 2021 8:45 PM
#19
yaegerist-15 said: bro u are everywhere and posting the same damm thing ,Bayek said: that hack dont care anymoreI would wholly support delaying the final season of the anime until Isayama can create an ending he's truly satisfied with to send off AoT properly. |
Apr 30, 2021 8:50 PM
#20
| ye thats why i lowered my score too it can obviously be interpreted as pro-genocide message lol "thank you for being a mass murderer" lol |
Apr 30, 2021 10:29 PM
#21
| Lol though at all the posters who kept on defending the ending and telling everyone they don't understand it. |
Apr 30, 2021 10:33 PM
#22
| As for the 8 pages added, I don't think it will change anything. It will just improve the pacing and probably shed more light on the world post the rumbling. Maybe he will also tweak the Eren and Armin conversation a little bit by adding more dialogue or so but that's about it I believe. Pretty hard to drastically change what's already written. People shouldn't get their hopes that much up. |
May 1, 2021 12:56 AM
#23
| Isayama should have just been stubborn... Seriously... Hell looked at all of you on this discussion and hell doesn't even want you all. Forum people... You all suspend people for hate speech against each other but hate speech against authors is allowed??? Is this your way of being admins?? |
May 1, 2021 1:05 AM
#24
| LOL So now Isayama has changed the ending not one, but TWO times. Fanboys fanboying |
May 1, 2021 1:27 AM
#25
| OK , now if this is accurate it's something that i can accept. The author wrote himself into a corner and he was not able to deliver. The decline of writing quality in the last arc was jarring and it wasn't my imagination after all. Shows you that even talented people can crumble under pressure if they don't have the disposition for it, something understandable. You need to give your talent a break if they need it and Isayama clearly needed one , zero man-management skills from the editorial department. At least the "you just didn't understand it" punks that have been trying to gaslight disappointed readers will get knocked down a peg when we get this full interview. |
majinaleMay 1, 2021 2:54 AM
May 1, 2021 1:34 AM
#26
| "The closer to the final chapter, the harder Isayama would try searching for reviews and comments online." This makes me sad. |
May 1, 2021 1:36 AM
#27
Fiveskies said: "The closer to the final chapter, the harder Isayama would try searching for reviews and comments online." This makes me sad. I dont get this part. All I saw was constant blind praising of his work. He must have been looking at obscure forums. all normie social media loves the ending |
May 1, 2021 2:33 AM
#28
Funseco said: Basically he was insecure with the reception of his writing so he will look up on Twitter and see fan speculations and all. I think this happened because of the reception the uprising arc got.Fiveskies said: "The closer to the final chapter, the harder Isayama would try searching for reviews and comments online." This makes me sad. I dont get this part. All I saw was constant blind praising of his work. He must have been looking at obscure forums. all normie social media loves the ending |
May 1, 2021 2:50 AM
#29
Funseco said: Fiveskies said: "The closer to the final chapter, the harder Isayama would try searching for reviews and comments online." This makes me sad. I dont get this part. All I saw was constant blind praising of his work. He must have been looking at obscure forums. all normie social media loves the ending As the guy above said , he was unsure and kept looking at the reception getting pressured and probably rushing the ending. He should have taken a break |
May 1, 2021 4:32 AM
#30
| The chapter's already out, and unless he plans to change things up with the tankoubon release (which is highly unlikely anyway), the final chapter bit is just a meaningless commentary. He better stays managing his onsen from now on, and never touch a drawing pen again. |
May 1, 2021 5:25 AM
#31
loli_a_ravioli said: tf r u supposed to be to tell him what to do u worthless nobodyThe chapter's already out, and unless he plans to change things up with the tankoubon release (which is highly unlikely anyway), the final chapter bit is just a meaningless commentary. He better stays managing his onsen from now on, and never touch a drawing pen again. |
May 1, 2021 5:30 AM
#33
| Isayama so bad he couldnt even copy Muv Luv ending |
May 1, 2021 5:36 AM
#34
Sage_Path_Asahi said: loli_a_ravioli said: tf r u supposed to be to tell him what to do u worthless nobodyThe chapter's already out, and unless he plans to change things up with the tankoubon release (which is highly unlikely anyway), the final chapter bit is just a meaningless commentary. He better stays managing his onsen from now on, and never touch a drawing pen again. I'm just telling what's on my mind. I don't expect him to actually read and follow my comment you gullible fanboy. |
May 1, 2021 5:44 AM
#35
loli_a_ravioli said: and i'm telling u whats on my mind u gullible haterSage_Path_Asahi said: loli_a_ravioli said: The chapter's already out, and unless he plans to change things up with the tankoubon release (which is highly unlikely anyway), the final chapter bit is just a meaningless commentary. He better stays managing his onsen from now on, and never touch a drawing pen again. I'm just telling what's on my mind. I don't expect him to actually read and follow my comment you gullible fanboy. P.s. u r retarded af, i didn't defend his writing, hell i didn't even like the chapter, but a trash ass like u who never did anything significant in his life got no right to tell someone he shouldn't write, like u calling me a fanboy without any reason, internet's sure full of bullies like u |
May 1, 2021 5:55 AM
#36
| At least he himself knows how bad it was, of course he wouldn't outright admit it but still he came out with it. Welp nothing matters anymore, last chapter was already published and aot ended as a mess. |
May 1, 2021 6:11 AM
#37
Sage_Path_Asahi said: loli_a_ravioli said: and i'm telling u whats on my mind u gullible haterSage_Path_Asahi said: loli_a_ravioli said: tf r u supposed to be to tell him what to do u worthless nobodyThe chapter's already out, and unless he plans to change things up with the tankoubon release (which is highly unlikely anyway), the final chapter bit is just a meaningless commentary. He better stays managing his onsen from now on, and never touch a drawing pen again. I'm just telling what's on my mind. I don't expect him to actually read and follow my comment you gullible fanboy. P.s. u r retarded af, i didn't defend his writing, hell i didn't even like the chapter, but a trash ass like u who never did anything significant in his life got no right to tell someone he shouldn't write, like u calling me a fanboy without any reason, internet's sure full of bullies like u Why don't you guys tone it down a little, if you are having a bad day better go for a walk. |
May 1, 2021 6:41 AM
#38
| It's unfortunate that Isayama couldn't wrap it up properly. Personally, I like the idea and intent behind the ending itself, but the last chapter executed it poorly and didn't leave a good taste in my mouth. There's still hope that the ending can be fixed up in the anime with better pacing and dialogue especially with regards to wrapping up Eren's character arc. There's no way that everybody will be pleased especially if there are a fair amount of people against the idea of a partial rumbling, but at least it can end a way which Isayama can be happy with. |
May 1, 2021 6:44 AM
#39
Sage_Path_Asahi said: loli_a_ravioli said: and i'm telling u whats on my mind u gullible haterSage_Path_Asahi said: loli_a_ravioli said: tf r u supposed to be to tell him what to do u worthless nobodyThe chapter's already out, and unless he plans to change things up with the tankoubon release (which is highly unlikely anyway), the final chapter bit is just a meaningless commentary. He better stays managing his onsen from now on, and never touch a drawing pen again. I'm just telling what's on my mind. I don't expect him to actually read and follow my comment you gullible fanboy. P.s. u r retarded af, i didn't defend his writing, hell i didn't even like the chapter, but a trash ass like u who never did anything significant in his life got no right to tell someone he shouldn't write, like u calling me a fanboy without any reason, internet's sure full of bullies like u Piss off you mangy retard, who the fuck are you trying to judge my life? You went banal and asspained over my shitpost that wasn't even a death threat, in a forum that have barely native japanese in it, let alone visited by a japanese mangaka. |
May 1, 2021 7:11 AM
#40
loli_a_ravioli said: stop crying like a little bitch coz its the truth, hell even i am now worthless now fighting retards like u, its funny how u admit to back bitching like that is considered healthy lmaoSage_Path_Asahi said: loli_a_ravioli said: Sage_Path_Asahi said: loli_a_ravioli said: tf r u supposed to be to tell him what to do u worthless nobodyThe chapter's already out, and unless he plans to change things up with the tankoubon release (which is highly unlikely anyway), the final chapter bit is just a meaningless commentary. He better stays managing his onsen from now on, and never touch a drawing pen again. I'm just telling what's on my mind. I don't expect him to actually read and follow my comment you gullible fanboy. P.s. u r retarded af, i didn't defend his writing, hell i didn't even like the chapter, but a trash ass like u who never did anything significant in his life got no right to tell someone he shouldn't write, like u calling me a fanboy without any reason, internet's sure full of bullies like u Piss off you mangy retard, who the fuck are you trying to judge my life? You went banal and asspained over my shitpost that wasn't even a death threat, in a forum that have barely native japanese in it, let alone visited by a japanese mangaka. |
May 1, 2021 7:15 AM
#41
majinale said: i am sorry mate i lost it a little, i don't care if people don't like the ending, but who tf are they to tell isayama that he should give up on writing, calling him things like a hack and all that shit is disgusting and shows how the fandom is full of worthless insignificant morons forcing their expectations onto someone who worked his ass off for a decade only to get ridiculed like thisSage_Path_Asahi said: loli_a_ravioli said: Sage_Path_Asahi said: loli_a_ravioli said: tf r u supposed to be to tell him what to do u worthless nobodyThe chapter's already out, and unless he plans to change things up with the tankoubon release (which is highly unlikely anyway), the final chapter bit is just a meaningless commentary. He better stays managing his onsen from now on, and never touch a drawing pen again. I'm just telling what's on my mind. I don't expect him to actually read and follow my comment you gullible fanboy. P.s. u r retarded af, i didn't defend his writing, hell i didn't even like the chapter, but a trash ass like u who never did anything significant in his life got no right to tell someone he shouldn't write, like u calling me a fanboy without any reason, internet's sure full of bullies like u Why don't you guys tone it down a little, if you are having a bad day better go for a walk. |
May 1, 2021 8:02 AM
#42
Sage_Path_Asahi said: the only worthless insignificant thing is the ending and he is a hack for reading shit on social media so he can make the casuals happy with some ships and forgetting his own themesmajinale said: i am sorry mate i lost it a little, i don't care if people don't like the ending, but who tf are they to tell isayama that he should give up on writing, calling him things like a hack and all that shit is disgusting and shows how the fandom is full of worthless insignificant morons forcing their expectations onto someone who worked his ass off for a decade only to get ridiculed like thisSage_Path_Asahi said: loli_a_ravioli said: and i'm telling u whats on my mind u gullible haterSage_Path_Asahi said: loli_a_ravioli said: tf r u supposed to be to tell him what to do u worthless nobodyThe chapter's already out, and unless he plans to change things up with the tankoubon release (which is highly unlikely anyway), the final chapter bit is just a meaningless commentary. He better stays managing his onsen from now on, and never touch a drawing pen again. I'm just telling what's on my mind. I don't expect him to actually read and follow my comment you gullible fanboy. P.s. u r retarded af, i didn't defend his writing, hell i didn't even like the chapter, but a trash ass like u who never did anything significant in his life got no right to tell someone he shouldn't write, like u calling me a fanboy without any reason, internet's sure full of bullies like u Why don't you guys tone it down a little, if you are having a bad day better go for a walk. |
| Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
May 1, 2021 8:42 AM
#43
yaegerist-15 said: have a good day, another insignificant bullySage_Path_Asahi said: the only worthless insignificant thing is the ending and he is a hack for reading shit on social media so he can make the casuals happy with some ships and forgetting his own themesmajinale said: Sage_Path_Asahi said: loli_a_ravioli said: and i'm telling u whats on my mind u gullible haterSage_Path_Asahi said: loli_a_ravioli said: tf r u supposed to be to tell him what to do u worthless nobodyThe chapter's already out, and unless he plans to change things up with the tankoubon release (which is highly unlikely anyway), the final chapter bit is just a meaningless commentary. He better stays managing his onsen from now on, and never touch a drawing pen again. I'm just telling what's on my mind. I don't expect him to actually read and follow my comment you gullible fanboy. P.s. u r retarded af, i didn't defend his writing, hell i didn't even like the chapter, but a trash ass like u who never did anything significant in his life got no right to tell someone he shouldn't write, like u calling me a fanboy without any reason, internet's sure full of bullies like u Why don't you guys tone it down a little, if you are having a bad day better go for a walk. |
May 1, 2021 8:57 AM
#45
| So Fumbling confirmed by the author himself. |
May 1, 2021 9:04 AM
#46
Sage_Path_Asahi said: have a good day, defend that hack who wasted your time for fanserviceyaegerist-15 said: have a good day, another insignificant bullySage_Path_Asahi said: majinale said: i am sorry mate i lost it a little, i don't care if people don't like the ending, but who tf are they to tell isayama that he should give up on writing, calling him things like a hack and all that shit is disgusting and shows how the fandom is full of worthless insignificant morons forcing their expectations onto someone who worked his ass off for a decade only to get ridiculed like thisSage_Path_Asahi said: loli_a_ravioli said: and i'm telling u whats on my mind u gullible haterSage_Path_Asahi said: loli_a_ravioli said: tf r u supposed to be to tell him what to do u worthless nobodyThe chapter's already out, and unless he plans to change things up with the tankoubon release (which is highly unlikely anyway), the final chapter bit is just a meaningless commentary. He better stays managing his onsen from now on, and never touch a drawing pen again. I'm just telling what's on my mind. I don't expect him to actually read and follow my comment you gullible fanboy. P.s. u r retarded af, i didn't defend his writing, hell i didn't even like the chapter, but a trash ass like u who never did anything significant in his life got no right to tell someone he shouldn't write, like u calling me a fanboy without any reason, internet's sure full of bullies like u Why don't you guys tone it down a little, if you are having a bad day better go for a walk. |
| Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
May 1, 2021 9:08 AM
#47
yaegerist-15 said: Sage_Path_Asahi said: have a good day, defend that hack who wasted your time for fanserviceyaegerist-15 said: Sage_Path_Asahi said: the only worthless insignificant thing is the ending and he is a hack for reading shit on social media so he can make the casuals happy with some ships and forgetting his own themesmajinale said: i am sorry mate i lost it a little, i don't care if people don't like the ending, but who tf are they to tell isayama that he should give up on writing, calling him things like a hack and all that shit is disgusting and shows how the fandom is full of worthless insignificant morons forcing their expectations onto someone who worked his ass off for a decade only to get ridiculed like thisSage_Path_Asahi said: loli_a_ravioli said: and i'm telling u whats on my mind u gullible haterSage_Path_Asahi said: loli_a_ravioli said: tf r u supposed to be to tell him what to do u worthless nobodyThe chapter's already out, and unless he plans to change things up with the tankoubon release (which is highly unlikely anyway), the final chapter bit is just a meaningless commentary. He better stays managing his onsen from now on, and never touch a drawing pen again. I'm just telling what's on my mind. I don't expect him to actually read and follow my comment you gullible fanboy. P.s. u r retarded af, i didn't defend his writing, hell i didn't even like the chapter, but a trash ass like u who never did anything significant in his life got no right to tell someone he shouldn't write, like u calling me a fanboy without any reason, internet's sure full of bullies like u Why don't you guys tone it down a little, if you are having a bad day better go for a walk. you still here? did you even took a nap from yesterday to now xD? Yeah, man, Isayama ought to do an ending similar to the one you pictured in that brain of yours. lmaooo. The ending is OK, and it will be flashed more with the extra 8 pages of explanation and also in the anime, but i am happy that after 8 years of following it, you will be salty for the rest of time :D numnumnum |
May 1, 2021 9:14 AM
#48
| Well maybe the fanboys will finally get it through their heads that fans and editors aren't responsible and there wasn't some mystical ending that would have saved the series for them. The only other alternative ending was trashed right after S1 of the anime came out. People always resort to excuses like that when their hype high disappoints them. Regardless some people obviously need to just move on. Sure it's disappointing how AOT turned out but it's just a piece of fiction. Lots of stuff to get enthused about within the medium and outside of it. |
BilboBaggins365May 1, 2021 9:18 AM
May 1, 2021 9:14 AM
#49
imbAF said: why u getting on my ass lmaao, i ain't the one shitting on the author for no goddamn reason and when was I salty, check properly what i said aboveyaegerist-15 said: Sage_Path_Asahi said: yaegerist-15 said: have a good day, another insignificant bullySage_Path_Asahi said: the only worthless insignificant thing is the ending and he is a hack for reading shit on social media so he can make the casuals happy with some ships and forgetting his own themesmajinale said: i am sorry mate i lost it a little, i don't care if people don't like the ending, but who tf are they to tell isayama that he should give up on writing, calling him things like a hack and all that shit is disgusting and shows how the fandom is full of worthless insignificant morons forcing their expectations onto someone who worked his ass off for a decade only to get ridiculed like thisSage_Path_Asahi said: loli_a_ravioli said: and i'm telling u whats on my mind u gullible haterSage_Path_Asahi said: loli_a_ravioli said: tf r u supposed to be to tell him what to do u worthless nobodyThe chapter's already out, and unless he plans to change things up with the tankoubon release (which is highly unlikely anyway), the final chapter bit is just a meaningless commentary. He better stays managing his onsen from now on, and never touch a drawing pen again. I'm just telling what's on my mind. I don't expect him to actually read and follow my comment you gullible fanboy. P.s. u r retarded af, i didn't defend his writing, hell i didn't even like the chapter, but a trash ass like u who never did anything significant in his life got no right to tell someone he shouldn't write, like u calling me a fanboy without any reason, internet's sure full of bullies like u Why don't you guys tone it down a little, if you are having a bad day better go for a walk. you still here? did you even took a nap from yesterday to now xD? Yeah, man, Isayama ought to do an ending similar to the one you pictured in that brain of yours. lmaooo. The ending is OK, and it will be flashed more with the extra 8 pages of explanation and also in the anime, but i am happy that after 8 years of following it, you will be salty for the rest of time :D numnumnum |
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