The Most Probable Ending Theory You’ll Ever Read | Everything Makes Sense and All Plot Holes Are Explained
Attack on Titan
| All along, Eren’s plan was to die just before the baby’s birth in order for Historia's child to become an omnipotent Founder, capable of eradicating the titans. Let me elaborate... How does Eren know that an infant can assist him in such an endeavour? He realized that Ymir will be reborn. She’s the original Founding shifter – the primordial being. After she died, King Fritz made their daughters devour her body and following the same pattern, the Reiss family kept transferring the power in succession for 2000 years. Only royals have had access to its full potential while Ymir was merely a slave, obeying their orders. However, this process is now broken. Up till now, the Founder has always been transferred through the act of consumption – a pure titan eats the previous Founding shifter. With Eren's death, the Founder will be assigned to a random baby for the first time ever. So it only makes sense that Ymir – the ancestor – is reincarnated in such an extraordinary situation. She'll receive what naturally belongs to her as she was the one to touch the hallucigenia. What’s more, reborn Ymir will be in the same position as 2000 years ago – the Founding Titan's shifter. BUT, this time she's free. Therefore, once she pops out and gets her abilities back, she can do whatever she wants with them. She no longer needs to be commanded by royals, which gives her the ideal opportunity to conclude everything. What was the point of Zeke dying? Will the baby inherit the Beast Titan? Zeke’s death was a necessary distraction, deliberately included by Isayama to divert our attention. It tricked us into thinking that the baby inheriting Zeke’s titan is relevant as it would help Eren resume the Rumbling. But that’s not the case. The child will indeed inherit the Beast but what’s important here is the baby inheriting the Founder (what Isayama tried to hide behind Zeke’s death). Also, his death served the purpose of stopping the Rumbling as it is not needed anymore. Most of the world's population is already massacred. “What would you think… about me having a child?”  This is how Eren and Historia’s conversation went. In a vision, Eren saw that Ymir will be reborn after his death. He told Historia that he has to figure out which random child will inherit the Founder. Historia decided to make his job easier and suggested becoming pregnant herself (with Eren as the father). Like this, they could perfectly organize everything in order for Ymir to be reborn as their kid – Eren’s leave for Marley, the attack on Liberio, the activation of the Rumbling and Eren's death. Everything had to occur before the "deadline" (the exact moment of birth). That could be why Historia is so grim – she proposed this because she wants to rid the world of titans but she’s sad because she knows the father of her child will have to die in the process. It would also explain why Historia didn't appear in Ch. 138 – if Isayama showed the baby coming out seconds after Mikasa decapitated Eren then it would’ve been obvious what’s going on. Moreover, Ymir is smiling at Eren and Mikasa not simply because she saw affection. Yes, she does care about bonds but another thing could be that Eren's plan downed on her – she connected the dots and figured out that it's now her turn to contribute and complete the mission Eren wordlessly gave her. I believe next chapter will start with her disappearing from inside the Founder's mouth and switch to her being born. (Eren and Historia using the baby is a bit questionable but at the same time, Ymir wants to be free and they're just providing her with the opportunity to save herself. So I'll reserve my judgement on this matter until I see how it's executed.) What will happen after she is reborn? Immediately after she cries for the first time, all Eldians will perhaps be summoned in Paths, where Eren will be waiting. To their surprise, he will announce the end of the Titan Age. Then, Ymir will make the command and Paths will begin collapsing. Eren will hold her in his arms as all traces of titans disappear. "You're free." will collectively be directed to Ymir and all of her Subjects. What did Eren show Grisha? It has always been suspicious as to why Eren teased Zeke about them not reaching "the part where he eats their old man". It's strange that Grisha gave Eren the power of the titans when beforehand he begged Zeke to stop him. The only logical thing would be that Eren showed him what I described above: the resolution.  Why did Grisha and Kruger help the Alliance? Why did Ymir revive them if they were going to go against Eren? What used to be nonsensical before is now super logical. Grisha and Kruger were not helping the Alliance because Armin’s TnJ worked. They aided them because beforehand Eren revealed the truth of what is to come and that they will NEED to kill him in order for Historia’s baby to inherit the Founder. Basically, they didn't feel sympathy for Marley all of a sudden – instead, they were helping Eren in liberating Eldians from titans. What’s up with Mikasa’s hallucination? As it has been confirmed by Isayama's notes on Ch. 138, it’s not an AU. So we should probably forget about time loops. It's a dream. Eren entered it (through Paths, duh) as he wanted to convince Mikasa to behead him as fast as possible as they have no time left. Him joining her is why Aaron Yogurt dream Eren got shifter marks on his face and why in Ch. 1, he saw this particular moment. What will happen to the titanized Eldians and titan shifters? The former will likely return to being humans. There’s no reason for them to disappear as they’re material beings that exist in the physical world – what will be removed is just titanization. Plus, with this, Eren will keep his promise of his friends living long lives. Though, this is something I cannot predict properly and just speculation. The latter will be free from the Curse of Ymir (good luck, Reiner, no dying for you). Is it sure that Eren is the father? There's no question really. I feel like it should be self-explanatory after everything discussed so far. The farmer being Ymir's father would be a more shocking twist than Eren being the dad. Why did the Rumbling have to occur? To stop the cycle of violence and hate once and for all. If Eren removed titan powers without the Rumbling, most people (especially Marleyans) would’ve still despised Eldians and they would've just been defenseless. So Eren wanted to prevent that. What about the last panel? As u/anaschaoui points out here, Ch. 137 ended with Armin’s farwell and Ch. 138 ended with Mikasa’s. Ch. 139 will end with Eren’s goodbye to Ymir AND Paradisians as all of them have suffered for centuries. "To you, 2000 years from now, you are free."  r/titanfolk theory made by u/raysmia |
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| Another one of those theories that are "extemely likely". If he is not a madman and was only planning to die to end the curse, why the genocide? He could've avoided the rumbling or at least stopped it before. |
| Thread title All Plot Holes Are Explained Thread context the Founder has always been transferred through the act of consumption – a pure titan eats the previous Founding shifter But the daughters of Ymir didn't turn into pure titan... |
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| @aLotQuestion_ I think that's a bit of a special case special case, I believe she also started the pattern of eating the previous holder to pass on their powers. Or... what is slightly more morbid but possible(I think at least), eating the corpse in titan form is easier, and has little mental repercussion due to not being entirely conscious. But cannibalizing the spine from a living (or dead) body consciously is a bit more difficult LOL. That aside, I think this theory probably covers most plot holes, though I'm not sure of ALL... I will say it doesn't seem too far fetched of an ending, and I think most people would at least accept it, rather than the halfassed direction we're seemingly going (or led to believe) right now. |
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| All along I've been predicting something similar minus the part with Eren being the father. All other possible hypotheses are pretty much disproven now. Let's see if Isayama pulls through |
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aLotQuestion_ said: You need to consume the spinal fluid of a shifter in order to get their powers. You can do it in both a human and titan form. It's just easier to do it in titan form. Having Armin eat Bertholdt like Maria, Rose and Sina ate Ymir wouldn't exactly be possible, but it would have worked.Thread title All Plot Holes Are Explained Thread context the Founder has always been transferred through the act of consumption – a pure titan eats the previous Founding shifter But the daughters of Ymir didn't turn into pure titan... |
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L0sMichal0s said: All along, Eren’s plan was to die just before the baby’s birth in order for Historia's child to become an omnipotent Founder, capable of eradicating the titans. Let me elaborate... How does Eren know that an infant can assist him in such an endeavour? He realized that Ymir will be reborn. She’s the original Founding shifter – the primordial being. After she died, King Fritz made their daughters devour her body and following the same pattern, the Reiss family kept transferring the power in succession for 2000 years. Only royals have had access to its full potential while Ymir was merely a slave, obeying their orders. However, this process is now broken. Up till now, the Founder has always been transferred through the act of consumption – a pure titan eats the previous Founding shifter. With Eren's death, the Founder will be assigned to a random baby for the first time ever. So it only makes sense that Ymir – the ancestor – is reincarnated in such an extraordinary situation. She'll receive what naturally belongs to her as she was the one to touch the hallucigenia. What’s more, reborn Ymir will be in the same position as 2000 years ago – the Founding Titan's shifter. BUT, this time she's free. Therefore, once she pops out and gets her abilities back, she can do whatever she wants with them. She no longer needs to be commanded by royals, which gives her the ideal opportunity to conclude everything. What was the point of Zeke dying? Will the baby inherit the Beast Titan? Zeke’s death was a necessary distraction, deliberately included by Isayama to divert our attention. It tricked us into thinking that the baby inheriting Zeke’s titan is relevant as it would help Eren resume the Rumbling. But that’s not the case. The child will indeed inherit the Beast but what’s important here is the baby inheriting the Founder (what Isayama tried to hide behind Zeke’s death). Also, his death served the purpose of stopping the Rumbling as it is not needed anymore. Most of the world's population is already massacred. “What would you think… about me having a child?” This is how Eren and Historia’s conversation went. In a vision, Eren saw that Ymir will be reborn after his death. He told Historia that he has to figure out which random child will inherit the Founder. Historia decided to make his job easier and suggested becoming pregnant herself (with Eren as the father). Like this, they could perfectly organize everything in order for Ymir to be reborn as their kid – Eren’s leave for Marley, the attack on Liberio, the activation of the Rumbling and Eren's death. Everything had to occur before the "deadline" (the exact moment of birth). That could be why Historia is so grim – she proposed this because she wants to rid the world of titans but she’s sad because she knows the father of her child will have to die in the process. It would also explain why Historia didn't appear in Ch. 138 – if Isayama showed the baby coming out seconds after Mikasa decapitated Eren then it would’ve been obvious what’s going on. Moreover, Ymir is smiling at Eren and Mikasa not simply because she saw affection. Yes, she does care about bonds but another thing could be that Eren's plan downed on her – she connected the dots and figured out that it's now her turn to contribute and complete the mission Eren wordlessly gave her. I believe next chapter will start with her disappearing from inside the Founder's mouth and switch to her being born. (Eren and Historia using the baby is a bit questionable but at the same time, Ymir wants to be free and they're just providing her with the opportunity to save herself. So I'll reserve my judgement on this matter until I see how it's executed.) What will happen after she is reborn? Immediately after she cries for the first time, all Eldians will perhaps be summoned in Paths, where Eren will be waiting. To their surprise, he will announce the end of the Titan Age. Then, Ymir will make the command and Paths will begin collapsing. Eren will hold her in his arms as all traces of titans disappear. "You're free." will collectively be directed to Ymir and all of her Subjects. What did Eren show Grisha? It has always been suspicious as to why Eren teased Zeke about them not reaching "the part where he eats their old man". It's strange that Grisha gave Eren the power of the titans when beforehand he begged Zeke to stop him. The only logical thing would be that Eren showed him what I described above: the resolution. Why did Grisha and Kruger help the Alliance? Why did Ymir revive them if they were going to go against Eren? What used to be nonsensical before is now super logical. Grisha and Kruger were not helping the Alliance because Armin’s TnJ worked. They aided them because beforehand Eren revealed the truth of what is to come and that they will NEED to kill him in order for Historia’s baby to inherit the Founder. Basically, they didn't feel sympathy for Marley all of a sudden – instead, they were helping Eren in liberating Eldians from titans. What’s up with Mikasa’s hallucination? As it has been confirmed by Isayama's notes on Ch. 138, it’s not an AU. So we should probably forget about time loops. It's a dream. Eren entered it (through Paths, duh) as he wanted to convince Mikasa to behead him as fast as possible as they have no time left. Him joining her is why Aaron Yogurt dream Eren got shifter marks on his face and why in Ch. 1, he saw this particular moment. What will happen to the titanized Eldians and titan shifters? The former will likely return to being humans. There’s no reason for them to disappear as they’re material beings that exist in the physical world – what will be removed is just titanization. Plus, with this, Eren will keep his promise of his friends living long lives. Though, this is something I cannot predict properly and just speculation. The latter will be free from the Curse of Ymir (good luck, Reiner, no dying for you). Is it sure that Eren is the father? There's no question really. I feel like it should be self-explanatory after everything discussed so far. The farmer being Ymir's father would be a more shocking twist than Eren being the dad. Why did the Rumbling have to occur? To stop the cycle of violence and hate once and for all. If Eren removed titan powers without the Rumbling, most people (especially Marleyans) would’ve still despised Eldians and they would've just been defenseless. So Eren wanted to prevent that. What about the last panel? As u/anaschaoui points out here, Ch. 137 ended with Armin’s farwell and Ch. 138 ended with Mikasa’s. Ch. 139 will end with Eren’s goodbye to Ymir AND Paradisians as all of them have suffered for centuries. "To you, 2000 years from now, you are free." r/titanfolk theory made by u/raysmia This is very very likable.. Tho, aot is still a Shonen and it just feels questionable that selective breeding is in the story now unless isayama really doesn't care about that japan dough. Except me Still believing eren could not possibly make a child with someone to force the child through that rough destiny in which the life ends very fast. Everything here checks out. But, and if there's anything I've figured out by now. Once we think of a theory, it's highly highly possible it's not the one |
| My titanfolk dudes still got some copium. Let us snort our last copium my dudes. But seriously this is very well written but I doubt even Yams could end it like that lol. Whatever bro I'm gonna choose this theory as cannon lmao. |
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| A very interesting and plausible theory. With how the story has been progressing in the recent chapters, I would relish an ending like this. It wouldn't completely fix this arc, but it would at least salvage it to an extent. I would really like to see Reiner die tho, the number of times he has escaped near death is just a bit too ridiculous xD |
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Ackerman-Levi said: That's impossible my dude. He even outlived Hobo lmao. Living is his curse and this curse gave him the immortality.A very interesting and plausible theory. With how the story has been progressing in the recent chapters, I would relish an ending like this. It wouldn't completely fix this arc, but it would at least salvage it to an extent. I would really like to see Reiner die tho, the number of times he has escaped near death is just a bit too ridiculous xD |
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I_Am_Freeballing said: aLotQuestion_ said: You need to consume the spinal fluid of a shifter in order to get their powers. You can do it in both a human and titan form. It's just easier to do it in titan form. Having Armin eat Bertholdt like Maria, Rose and Sina ate Ymir wouldn't exactly be possible, but it would have worked.Thread title Thread context But the daughters of Ymir didn't turn into pure titan... This would furthur create more plot hole. If that is the case, titan shifter don't need to die, they could just extract spinal fluid like Zeke's. If it was only possible for Founding Titan, then Yeagerist won't happen since Eren can just share it. |
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L0sMichal0s said: the part where yoo talked about the cycle of hatred doesn't explain anything, how is the rumbling gonna end the cycle? Why would the rest of the world not despise eldiens after the rumbling? If there is survivors they will hate them even more. This is the most important question but i don't know how is it gonna be addressed or will we actually have a potential solution?All along, Eren’s plan was to die just before the baby’s birth in order for Historia's child to become an omnipotent Founder, capable of eradicating the titans. Let me elaborate... How does Eren know that an infant can assist him in such an endeavour? He realized that Ymir will be reborn. She’s the original Founding shifter – the primordial being. After she died, King Fritz made their daughters devour her body and following the same pattern, the Reiss family kept transferring the power in succession for 2000 years. Only royals have had access to its full potential while Ymir was merely a slave, obeying their orders. However, this process is now broken. Up till now, the Founder has always been transferred through the act of consumption – a pure titan eats the previous Founding shifter. With Eren's death, the Founder will be assigned to a random baby for the first time ever. So it only makes sense that Ymir – the ancestor – is reincarnated in such an extraordinary situation. She'll receive what naturally belongs to her as she was the one to touch the hallucigenia. What’s more, reborn Ymir will be in the same position as 2000 years ago – the Founding Titan's shifter. BUT, this time she's free. Therefore, once she pops out and gets her abilities back, she can do whatever she wants with them. She no longer needs to be commanded by royals, which gives her the ideal opportunity to conclude everything. What was the point of Zeke dying? Will the baby inherit the Beast Titan? Zeke’s death was a necessary distraction, deliberately included by Isayama to divert our attention. It tricked us into thinking that the baby inheriting Zeke’s titan is relevant as it would help Eren resume the Rumbling. But that’s not the case. The child will indeed inherit the Beast but what’s important here is the baby inheriting the Founder (what Isayama tried to hide behind Zeke’s death). Also, his death served the purpose of stopping the Rumbling as it is not needed anymore. Most of the world's population is already massacred. “What would you think… about me having a child?” This is how Eren and Historia’s conversation went. In a vision, Eren saw that Ymir will be reborn after his death. He told Historia that he has to figure out which random child will inherit the Founder. Historia decided to make his job easier and suggested becoming pregnant herself (with Eren as the father). Like this, they could perfectly organize everything in order for Ymir to be reborn as their kid – Eren’s leave for Marley, the attack on Liberio, the activation of the Rumbling and Eren's death. Everything had to occur before the "deadline" (the exact moment of birth). That could be why Historia is so grim – she proposed this because she wants to rid the world of titans but she’s sad because she knows the father of her child will have to die in the process. It would also explain why Historia didn't appear in Ch. 138 – if Isayama showed the baby coming out seconds after Mikasa decapitated Eren then it would’ve been obvious what’s going on. Moreover, Ymir is smiling at Eren and Mikasa not simply because she saw affection. Yes, she does care about bonds but another thing could be that Eren's plan downed on her – she connected the dots and figured out that it's now her turn to contribute and complete the mission Eren wordlessly gave her. I believe next chapter will start with her disappearing from inside the Founder's mouth and switch to her being born. (Eren and Historia using the baby is a bit questionable but at the same time, Ymir wants to be free and they're just providing her with the opportunity to save herself. So I'll reserve my judgement on this matter until I see how it's executed.) What will happen after she is reborn? Immediately after she cries for the first time, all Eldians will perhaps be summoned in Paths, where Eren will be waiting. To their surprise, he will announce the end of the Titan Age. Then, Ymir will make the command and Paths will begin collapsing. Eren will hold her in his arms as all traces of titans disappear. "You're free." will collectively be directed to Ymir and all of her Subjects. What did Eren show Grisha? It has always been suspicious as to why Eren teased Zeke about them not reaching "the part where he eats their old man". It's strange that Grisha gave Eren the power of the titans when beforehand he begged Zeke to stop him. The only logical thing would be that Eren showed him what I described above: the resolution. Why did Grisha and Kruger help the Alliance? Why did Ymir revive them if they were going to go against Eren? What used to be nonsensical before is now super logical. Grisha and Kruger were not helping the Alliance because Armin’s TnJ worked. They aided them because beforehand Eren revealed the truth of what is to come and that they will NEED to kill him in order for Historia’s baby to inherit the Founder. Basically, they didn't feel sympathy for Marley all of a sudden – instead, they were helping Eren in liberating Eldians from titans. What’s up with Mikasa’s hallucination? As it has been confirmed by Isayama's notes on Ch. 138, it’s not an AU. So we should probably forget about time loops. It's a dream. Eren entered it (through Paths, duh) as he wanted to convince Mikasa to behead him as fast as possible as they have no time left. Him joining her is why Aaron Yogurt dream Eren got shifter marks on his face and why in Ch. 1, he saw this particular moment. What will happen to the titanized Eldians and titan shifters? The former will likely return to being humans. There’s no reason for them to disappear as they’re material beings that exist in the physical world – what will be removed is just titanization. Plus, with this, Eren will keep his promise of his friends living long lives. Though, this is something I cannot predict properly and just speculation. The latter will be free from the Curse of Ymir (good luck, Reiner, no dying for you). Is it sure that Eren is the father? There's no question really. I feel like it should be self-explanatory after everything discussed so far. The farmer being Ymir's father would be a more shocking twist than Eren being the dad. Why did the Rumbling have to occur? To stop the cycle of violence and hate once and for all. If Eren removed titan powers without the Rumbling, most people (especially Marleyans) would’ve still despised Eldians and they would've just been defenseless. So Eren wanted to prevent that. What about the last panel? As u/anaschaoui points out here, Ch. 137 ended with Armin’s farwell and Ch. 138 ended with Mikasa’s. Ch. 139 will end with Eren’s goodbye to Ymir AND Paradisians as all of them have suffered for centuries. "To you, 2000 years from now, you are free." r/titanfolk theory made by u/raysmia The other points are possible to happen, but it's still not enough to save this arc, how about eren's freedom? This is the most recurring theme of the series yet still not well explored, what is it in eren that is free? Is he really free? What is it to be free? And what about ymir's freedom? How is she gonna be free? Free of what? We don't know anything about her apart from her flash back 2000 years ago, what's the relation between eren's freedom and ymir's? How her being reborn with all her powers make her free? She already was with all that god like power and she still was a slave. What make people go from slaves to free (if it's possible) these are the real questions. What about eren' s dream in the first chapter? Why eldiens were even fighting if eren planned all this? Why can't he just talk to armin and discuss the plan? If it's all planned it only needs acting and not having all these amounts of damage. How much lands have been rumbled? What about survivors from other countries? What about hallucigenia? If the curse of titans won't disappear how can we be sure the same mistakes won't be happening in the future? Man there is still tones of questions to answer and there is no way a 45 pages chapter can answer all of them, there is still the question of how much in the future eren can see, what is the attack titan limitations? How do the paths even work? How do they interfere with the physical world? Why doesn't the power of the founding work on akermans?.... |
FreeHobo said: My titanfolk dudes still got some copium. Let us snort our last copium my dudes. But seriously this is very well written but I doubt even Yams could end it like that lol. Whatever bro I'm gonna choose this theory as cannon lmao. He truly is the plot armoured titan. Love your pfp and signature btw lmao. |
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| The theory is great but let's not be too high on copium . |
  Something that’s supposed to die and doesn’t… will eventually rot away , whether it’s a man or a nation |
the part where yoo talked about the cycle of hatred doesn't explain anything, how is the rumbling gonna end the cycle? Why would the rest of the world not despise eldiens after the rumbling? If there is survivors they will hate them even more. This is the most important question but i don't know how is it gonna be addressed or will we actually have a potential solution? Who stopped the rumbling? Oh yeah Eldians from Paradise Island. Who made the whole rumbling happen? Eren. Eren being dead they won't hate Eldians, it's like saying we all hate germans because of WWII |
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L0sMichal0s said: All along, Eren’s plan was to die just before the baby’s birth in order for Historia's child to become an omnipotent Founder, capable of eradicating the titans. Let me elaborate... How does Eren know that an infant can assist him in such an endeavour? He realized that Ymir will be reborn. She’s the original Founding shifter – the primordial being. After she died, King Fritz made their daughters devour her body and following the same pattern, the Reiss family kept transferring the power in succession for 2000 years. Only royals have had access to its full potential while Ymir was merely a slave, obeying their orders. However, this process is now broken. Up till now, the Founder has always been transferred through the act of consumption – a pure titan eats the previous Founding shifter. With Eren's death, the Founder will be assigned to a random baby for the first time ever. So it only makes sense that Ymir – the ancestor – is reincarnated in such an extraordinary situation. She'll receive what naturally belongs to her as she was the one to touch the hallucigenia. What’s more, reborn Ymir will be in the same position as 2000 years ago – the Founding Titan's shifter. BUT, this time she's free. Therefore, once she pops out and gets her abilities back, she can do whatever she wants with them. She no longer needs to be commanded by royals, which gives her the ideal opportunity to conclude everything. What was the point of Zeke dying? Will the baby inherit the Beast Titan? Zeke’s death was a necessary distraction, deliberately included by Isayama to divert our attention. It tricked us into thinking that the baby inheriting Zeke’s titan is relevant as it would help Eren resume the Rumbling. But that’s not the case. The child will indeed inherit the Beast but what’s important here is the baby inheriting the Founder (what Isayama tried to hide behind Zeke’s death). Also, his death served the purpose of stopping the Rumbling as it is not needed anymore. Most of the world's population is already massacred. “What would you think… about me having a child?” This is how Eren and Historia’s conversation went. In a vision, Eren saw that Ymir will be reborn after his death. He told Historia that he has to figure out which random child will inherit the Founder. Historia decided to make his job easier and suggested becoming pregnant herself (with Eren as the father). Like this, they could perfectly organize everything in order for Ymir to be reborn as their kid – Eren’s leave for Marley, the attack on Liberio, the activation of the Rumbling and Eren's death. Everything had to occur before the "deadline" (the exact moment of birth). That could be why Historia is so grim – she proposed this because she wants to rid the world of titans but she’s sad because she knows the father of her child will have to die in the process. It would also explain why Historia didn't appear in Ch. 138 – if Isayama showed the baby coming out seconds after Mikasa decapitated Eren then it would’ve been obvious what’s going on. Moreover, Ymir is smiling at Eren and Mikasa not simply because she saw affection. Yes, she does care about bonds but another thing could be that Eren's plan downed on her – she connected the dots and figured out that it's now her turn to contribute and complete the mission Eren wordlessly gave her. I believe next chapter will start with her disappearing from inside the Founder's mouth and switch to her being born. (Eren and Historia using the baby is a bit questionable but at the same time, Ymir wants to be free and they're just providing her with the opportunity to save herself. So I'll reserve my judgement on this matter until I see how it's executed.) What will happen after she is reborn? Immediately after she cries for the first time, all Eldians will perhaps be summoned in Paths, where Eren will be waiting. To their surprise, he will announce the end of the Titan Age. Then, Ymir will make the command and Paths will begin collapsing. Eren will hold her in his arms as all traces of titans disappear. "You're free." will collectively be directed to Ymir and all of her Subjects. What did Eren show Grisha? It has always been suspicious as to why Eren teased Zeke about them not reaching "the part where he eats their old man". It's strange that Grisha gave Eren the power of the titans when beforehand he begged Zeke to stop him. The only logical thing would be that Eren showed him what I described above: the resolution. Why did Grisha and Kruger help the Alliance? Why did Ymir revive them if they were going to go against Eren? What used to be nonsensical before is now super logical. Grisha and Kruger were not helping the Alliance because Armin’s TnJ worked. They aided them because beforehand Eren revealed the truth of what is to come and that they will NEED to kill him in order for Historia’s baby to inherit the Founder. Basically, they didn't feel sympathy for Marley all of a sudden – instead, they were helping Eren in liberating Eldians from titans. What’s up with Mikasa’s hallucination? As it has been confirmed by Isayama's notes on Ch. 138, it’s not an AU. So we should probably forget about time loops. It's a dream. Eren entered it (through Paths, duh) as he wanted to convince Mikasa to behead him as fast as possible as they have no time left. Him joining her is why Aaron Yogurt dream Eren got shifter marks on his face and why in Ch. 1, he saw this particular moment. What will happen to the titanized Eldians and titan shifters? The former will likely return to being humans. There’s no reason for them to disappear as they’re material beings that exist in the physical world – what will be removed is just titanization. Plus, with this, Eren will keep his promise of his friends living long lives. Though, this is something I cannot predict properly and just speculation. The latter will be free from the Curse of Ymir (good luck, Reiner, no dying for you). Is it sure that Eren is the father? There's no question really. I feel like it should be self-explanatory after everything discussed so far. The farmer being Ymir's father would be a more shocking twist than Eren being the dad. Why did the Rumbling have to occur? To stop the cycle of violence and hate once and for all. If Eren removed titan powers without the Rumbling, most people (especially Marleyans) would’ve still despised Eldians and they would've just been defenseless. So Eren wanted to prevent that. What about the last panel? As u/anaschaoui points out here, Ch. 137 ended with Armin’s farwell and Ch. 138 ended with Mikasa’s. Ch. 139 will end with Eren’s goodbye to Ymir AND Paradisians as all of them have suffered for centuries. "To you, 2000 years from now, you are free." r/titanfolk theory made by u/raysmia Wow thats actually Good,if this is the ending ill give it 10/10,why this is Good? And why you both Eren fanboy and team alliance should be happy with this because its satisfied both of you Eren role is explained clear here,and dont forget He still the protagonist his action is the center of the STORY,it makes sense why He did everything while u team alliance fanboy also got ur happy ending where the cycle end and the Eldians is free,why? 1.eren is not EVIL,He just want freedom,He also make it clear Ymir freedom too,with this,Ymir will free from the slavery in path when she will be reborn as historia child. 2.i think all titan shifter will die with Eren go first FOLLOWED by Armin’s reiner etc so when Ymir reborn all titan powers is back to her with her godlike stats she can stop it like how she start it.lets be honest right now Ymir is basically god of Eldians,so its make sense she can remove titan with her fully reborn in real World 3.why Rumbling had to happen? Because Marleyans and the World as Eldians enemy is real,u cant just ignore that,so after Eren get rid of the enemy first,let his friend beat him,force the Worm out,this is supported by the Mikasa’s dream if Eren didnt start Rumbling and runaway Eldians in paradis is gone,He had to first them first,too cruel for genocide? This is AOT NOT FAIRY TAIL OR naruto why u r surprised with that? In fact if AOT Good full shonen then that is WRONG. 4.with this the bird foreshadow is make sense too,because that bird is basically all titan shifter/scouts watching as they all dead and now in path/afterlife all Eldians final free from titan,dont forget reiner annie is also Eldians. 5.the real survivor is basically ackermans to be the witness WHO experience all of this and back to paradis and watching Ymir reborn and free The most important thing is Eren role or plan have to be explained,so as Ymir AND historia,whether u like it or not this 3 are the core,the most important thing about the arc,NOT team avenger,Marleys etc,it need to be explained while showing Eren as someone WHO always about freedom even if He had to die for it.he always like that or why He keep saying muh freedom? If this isnt the end and isayama ending is decent I can give AOT 7 or 8 depend of how bad it is,but if it end with everyone untitanized and suddenly all become friend and peace without Eren role or pov and forget about Rumbling,like in naruto I think AOT deserved 1/10,but this end theory is the Best so far |
| What kind of copium are they using? Even if it sounds logical mostly, its still not a satisfying ending and it won't redeem the rumbling arc. I still don't like the concept of stopping the cycle of violence simply by killing Eren and showing that Eldians are good. You want to tell me that they will suddenly forget everything that happened and that a certain eldian almost killed the entire world population? It shouldn't be that easy but I get the feeling that it will play out that way. And if it really was his plan to end the cycle of violence in that way, why hasn't Eren just talked to Armin and the rest and just told them his plan? They just needed to act the world would still buy it. I don't know, many things still don't make sense to me. |
ForsterbombMar 10, 2021 8:10 AM
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aLotQuestion_ said: I think you misunderstood. I never meant extracting spinal fluid. The shifter dies either way. You just eat them while you're in human form. I_Am_Freeballing said: You need to consume the spinal fluid of a shifter in order to get their powers. You can do it in both a human and titan form. It's just easier to do it in titan form. Having Armin eat Bertholdt like Maria, Rose and Sina ate Ymir wouldn't exactly be possible, but it would have worked. This would furthur create more plot hole. If that is the case, titan shifter don't need to die, they could just extract spinal fluid like Zeke's. If it was only possible for Founding Titan, then Yeagerist won't happen since Eren can just share it. Anyway, we have seen what happens with what you said. Falco is able to use Beast Titan powers because he consumed Zeke's spinal fluid. So it's not a plot hole. |
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zerotitan said: Lumiax said: What kind of copium are they using? Even if it sounds logical mostly, its still not a satisfying ending and it won't redeem the rumbling arc. I still don't like the concept of stopping the cycle of violence simply by killing Eren and showing that Eldians are good. You want to tell me that they will suddenly forget everything that happened and that a certain eldian almost killed the entire world population? It shouldn't be that easy but I get the feeling that it will play out that way. And if it really was his plan to end the cycle of violence in that way, why hasn't Eren just talked to Armin and the rest and just told them his plan? They just needed to act the world would still buy it. I don't know, many things still don't make sense to me. I really don't get the logic some of you are using. Eren literally killed almost around 90% of the world's population. How does that not solve the cycle situation? And if you go by this theory or even, in general, we all are expecting titans power to end by the last chapter then that simply means Eldians will disappear simply because what made them devils to the world will disappear, they might as well mix with people over the world over next few centuries simply pretending as the survivors to the other survivors. Further why people are even expecting that rest of the 10% will start thinking of Attacking paradise just after Rumbling stops? Like instead of being horrified for what happened and considering the reasons why it happened (because they tried to mess up with Paradise ), instead of thinking of rebuilding themselves first which is gonna take hundreds of years in itself, instead of thinking that it was by some miracle that they were spared from rumbling, they will decide to fight paradise going more than 12000-13000 km with their limited technology and even more scarce resources (because of what Eren did) away to punish them? Sounds to me the most foolish thing to do. I clearly see the cycle of hate problem solved with what Eren achieved. It seems like some people will not satisfy with anything less than 100% massacre to consider the problem solved. And literally who is showing and to whom that Elidans are good people to solve the problem? Those who saw a few of the scouts trying to stop Eren literally are a select few Marley soldiers who are most likely gonna die. At this point, people are legit coming up with literally anything just because they do not see the badass Eren killing every one of his friends and abandon his character completely. I don't care if Eren dies or the rumbling is a success, all I want is a satisfying ending. And I don't like the direction which the ending is taking. |
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L0sMichal0s said: What will happen to the titanized Eldians and titan shifters? The former will likely return to being humans. There’s no reason for them to disappear as they’re material beings that exist in the physical world – what will be removed is just titanization. Plus, with this, Eren will keep his promise of his friends living long lives. Though, this is something I cannot predict properly and just speculation. No. Hange experiments back in season 1 showed that pure titans dont have humans in their necks. Its Ymir building sand castles that makes titans turn back into humans. Remember Zeke? If Ymir gets reincarnated then goodbye Jean and Connie "Eren promised his friend long lives" Yeah and Sasha is dead. |
FunsecoMar 10, 2021 10:46 AM
| Orrrrr just kill Hallu-chan and all Titans are eradicated anyways. It could be done in far fewer pages, and isn't so convoluted lol. |
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zerokarasu said: Well, the author disagrees with you. He stated that this story has always been about the original EMA trio (Eren, Mikasa, Armin); it started with them and it will also end with them. Whereas Historia's character arc is already completed during the Uprising Arc, so she no longer has any significance in the final arc.The most important thing is Eren role or plan have to be explained,so as Ymir AND historia,whether u like it or not this 3 are the core,the most important thing about the arc,NOT team avenger,Marleys etc,it need to be explained while showing Eren as someone WHO always about freedom even if He had to die for it.he always like that or why He keep saying muh freedom? Also, this whole arc is the final conclusion of the story to end the vicious cycle of hatred, so it indeed revolves around the Alliance stopping the rumbling and resolving the conflicts between Eldia/Marley and the world. You are wrong if you think otherwise. |
electromagnetoMar 10, 2021 4:46 PM
I just realized that all of my favorite characters, beside being stunningly beautiful, also happen to be exceptionally skilled murder machines. \('-')/ I'm level  on mal-badges. View my badges. |
| bro, the way you explained it was amazing and a lot of it makes sense now. i had a couple theories with the season 2 ending and how the curse of ymir will be broken and shit. you down to write my English essays? |
RaaaFii said: No I think Mikasa started to realize that on her ownEren can't control mikasa's mind. It was an alternate reality. Eren showed her what'd happen if he didn't do the rumbling. cynzx said: Lol the theory came from Redditbro, the way you explained it was amazing and a lot of it makes sense now. i had a couple theories with the season 2 ending and how the curse of ymir will be broken and shit. you down to write my English essays? |
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Jabungus said: Isayama introduced the subplot of Historia's baby for a reason don't you think? I can't believe people still doubt that it's gonna be brought up. I can't understand you guys. People expect the baby in the final panel to be Historia's child, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's the baby you see at the beginning of 134 and 138, I think Isayama has brought attention to it twice for a reason. |
Jabungus said: Fair enough. My bad.I have no doubt that Historia's pregnancy has a role to play, I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if it's not her child in the final panel. |
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