Thoughts on the Jacket scene?

Aidinzilla said:
I liked the jacket scene because I felt like the animation had a much more realistic approach to it when compared to the trailer. However, I can understand the criticism due to the scene in the trailer being much different.

Yang_Wenli said:


https://streamable.com/0ekhg2

Completely ruined. I have to question the mental abilities of the people at MAPPA working on this season when even random amateurs on internet can put together a better scene in a couple of minutes by doing some minor editing.

I don't understand how people at MAPPA looked at this off-model animation of weirdly hunching, goblin looking Eren and thought "Yep, looks good to me." This was one of, if not the most iconic and highly anticipated post-timeskip manga scenes and MAPPA couldn't even be bothered to do it justice

SoranoCloud said:
As for the "jacket scene": are people saying "This is just a man putting on a jacket" serious?

This scene clearly establishes Eren as the leader of a terrorist group / rebels. While making the declaration of war, he was acting independently. Now, he's seen as the leader, the saviour of the future Eldian Empire (it's a pity btw that they've cut that little conversation between Hanji and Floch where Hanji insists that their country is simply Eldia, not Eldian Empire). Whether Eren really enjoys being worshipped is questionable, but he plays along with this idea as long as it aligns with his own goals.

While in Marley, Eren's actions were directed against Marleyans; now it's the first time he's openly rebellious against Eldia's government. He shows that no former loyalties are going to stop him anymore from doing what he considers the right thing to do. After his escape to Marley and declaration of war, Eren's being kicked by Levi and put to prison. Now, his supporters congratulate him on escaping from prison and generally treat him as a hero, though Eren's deeds are still the same, he's done nothing new since.

His jacket here is basically the same as Superman's cape or Sailor Moon's outfit or whatever similar example, it's the symbol of his new quality: here he poses as the leader of the protest. After the declaration of war, Eren still belonged to the Survey Corps, formally at least, and allowed them to discipline him. Now it's clear that he no longer submits to anyone. This is quite a change, because up to this moment, military leaders viewed him as a tool: to cover the hole in the wall, to serve as a bait to lure out the traitors, to be a vessel to a titan power, without giving much thought to his personal motivations... Not possible anymore.

That's why this scene is so important in the context of Eren's development, no less important that the declaration of war, and the way the manga panel is drawn shows that there's something epic that's going on.

The fact that this scene is seen by so many people as "just a man putting on a jacket" is the best evidence of MAPPA's utter failure with this scene.

Quality-wise, it's not the jacket scene itself that is bad, it's maybe one of the better scenes in the episode actually, but the scene just before, where Eren is walking, is so laughably poorly done that it looks like a parody to me.

icarusivys said:


Wasn't the anime supposed to follow the manga art style? I mean they might have reasons for doing what they did, but I don't understand how a jacket scene would be tough to animate. Not to mention, people like to say that "it's just a jacket scene", no it wasn't. The marks under his eyes aren't enough to tell you which power he exactly used. Not every viewer can tell why Zachary was blown up and what his intentions were with the decision regarding the Founding Titan. If you liked it, then good for you.

icarusivys said:


Wasn't the anime supposed to follow the manga art style? I mean they might have reasons for doing what they did, but I don't understand how a jacket scene would be tough to animate. Not to mention, people like to say that "it's just a jacket scene", no it wasn't. The marks under his eyes aren't enough to tell you which power he exactly used. Not every viewer can tell why Zachary was blown up and what his intentions were with the decision regarding the Founding Titan. If you liked it, then good for you.

Reered said:

About which Titan, Eren told Hange he could escape using the Warhammer Titan whenever he wanted to in episode 11. I don't care about the other points. Though I am pretty sure Survey corps members blowing up Zacharius and Many survey corps members joining the Yeagerists is enough of a clue.

uh_ke said:


it's just the manga readers nagging

Mattinator95 said:
They could literally you know fix that scene in the Blu-ray by fixing the off model

icarusivys said:
It was realistic, but in a bad way. To me, it literally felt like they made him look like that one try-hard who tries to pull off such stunts in an attempt to impress people.

Awesomeness_1307 said:


At this point, the number of off model shots has been adding up to such a large number, I would recommend you to not keep your expectations too high for the blu-ray.

Mattinator95 said:


Season 1 had the same problem

icarusivys said:


This wasn't supposed to be untold information that the viewers had to calculate on their own. It was meant to have all this in order to make everything clear since anything otherwise, is just a hypothesis without the help of the manga. Besides, he never mentioned directly that he could morph the earth and escape, he just said it was pointless holding him underground. He did say that the titan could use hardening abilities and create any weapon.

Zachary wanting to get rid of Eren was because of Eren's rebellious behavior, but it wasn't directly told. There was just an exchange of words between Mikasa, Armin and Zachary that were hinting towards that but not directly saying it.

icarusivys said:


I don't think you read everything I said. The reason you gave is something I have heard a lot of times and I don't think it's valid because an assumption is different from a verified fact. Even if your assumption makes sense, it stays hypothetical. In this case, that scene deserved to be shown because it was the first time Eren used Warhammer Titan abilities.