something is greater than your life or nothing is greater than your life

RandomFriday said:
"greater" means that something has inherent value. There is no such thing like that. There is nothing greater than your life because your life is already nothing. I cannot answer the question.
Embrace nihilism.
Edgy answer of the day btw.

deg said:


complete nihilism and not even existentialism answer that existence has no meaning until you give it meaning eh

RandomFriday said:

See the thing is that "greater than your life" means that there is something out there that is more important than ones life. But how can you really tell if for a person it has greater value than their own life? Everything begins and ends wih your life. If you are not conscious (dead) you cannot perceive anything thus nothing has value beyond your life. Things continue to exist after you are dead, but what value do they have to dead you? Even kids are continuation of your legacy, but that matters only as long as you are alive. They make you know that your bloodline will continue and make you happy while you are alive. To dead you it doesnt matter at all. Everything ends with your death.
I think the question is very individual. Depends on what philosophy they believe in.

RandomFriday said:
All you said is true, but it has only any value or meaning as long as you are alive. If you are dead you cannot interact with this world/reality anymore thus "symbolic immortality" has no value for you anymore.

Nyarlathothep said:
"My mother Thetis tells me that there are two ways in which I may meet my end. If I stay here and fight, I shall not return alive but my name will live forever: whereas if I go home my name will die, but it will be long ere death shall take me." - Achilles, in The Iliad

I do agree with Achilles' choice. I know most people simply want to live a good and comfortable life, but the idea of doing something so important that it will mark generations and enter History is so much more seducing.

RandomFriday said:
All you said is true, but it has only any value or meaning as long as you are alive. If you are dead you cannot interact with this world/reality anymore thus "symbolic immortality" has no value for you anymore.

RandomFriday said:
"greater" means that something has inherent value. There is no such thing like that. There is nothing greater than your life because your life is already nothing. I cannot answer the question.
Embrace nihilism.
Edgy answer of the day btw.

NextUniverse said:
Value of anything is a flimsy idea, nothing has a constant value at any point mentally, physically, spiritually and whatever-ly. Therefore I am everything above and below as well as not knowing the answer.

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Contradiction? Isn't the element of nothing still something. Otherwise, how would can nothingness be a thing.

DrSexy said:
Btw @deg watch the original LOGH, the remake ain't worth it.

deg said:


but the Sawano OP and ED though and the modern animation lol and i started watching LOGH because i think it will have a complete remake

deg said:


i always gonna go for the benevolent side no matter the political belief

its just that in real life and in theory democracy is prone to be benevolent

DrSexy said:


I personally would support a corrupt democracy, I don't trust dictatorships that much and usually if a dictatorship is flawed it needs a violent revolution to fix it.

Catalano said:
I'll go the egoistic road, I like my life and that's it

deg said:


not even your ecchi waifus are above your life?

Catalano said:

no, but FC Barcelona is close to that, I mean, FC Barcelona is my life, the only problem is that I can't be help them with money because I don't have the requirements (not catalan, don't live in spain). But it's not like I am important in the great scheme of things.

deg said:


but you can be part of something greater than yourself if that is the case with that FC Barcelona stuff

NextUniverse said:
Value of anything is a flimsy idea, nothing has a constant value at any point mentally, physically, spiritually and whatever-ly. Therefore I am everything above and below as well as not knowing the answer.

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Contradiction? Isn't the element of nothing still something. Otherwise, how would can nothingness be a thing.

_Maneki-Neko_ said:
To me personally, I'm not that kind of person, who wants to be part of the big picture and therefore I wouldn't give my life for something like that or anything. I'm also pretty individualistic in my way of thinking and feeling.

But I bet, as soon as I have a kid, I'd think and feel like it's more important, aka "greater", than my own life. This is still quite "egoistic", because it's greater than my life, since it would be MY child then, and it's only the case for me, not for some stranger. I make it dependent on my love for the kid, not for a big picture or for an idealistic idea.

Although I do work in the social field, so I could work with and helping people, but I don't do it to make a better world as a whole, I just like to work there and I try to better the life of some individuals.

I also will stand up for some lgbt or other right movements, but I don't really think that such things should be greater than my life, like: they won't become the center of my life. Also, especially speaking up for lgbt movements is also pretty "egoistic" from me, because in the end, I do it for myself as well.
I also care about living with at least a smaller carbon footprint (nothing big, but a bunch of small things), but in the end I also do it for myself as well, because you can't have a good future, or give your children a good future, on an earth that is literally on fire.

I think, many people, who care about the "big picture" are doing it, because they will also benefit from it.
And even, if it's only about helping people or animals in need: Helping others activates our reward system. So we are doing it to get a good feeling. Theoretically: If it felt terrible to do so, nobody would care for others.
And it's not just a temporary good feeling, a lot of these people also find their value and meaning of their life through their work and ideals of a big picture. So, in the end, it's always, at least partwise, about your own needs.

_Maneki-Neko_ said:
To me personally, I'm not that kind of person, who wants to be part of the big picture and therefore I wouldn't give my life for something like that or anything. I'm also pretty individualistic in my way of thinking and feeling.

But I bet, as soon as I have a kid, I'd think and feel like it's more important, aka "greater", than my own life. This is still quite "egoistic", because it's greater than my life, since it would be MY child then, and it's only the case for me, not for some stranger. I make it dependent on my love for the kid, not for a big picture or for an idealistic idea.

Although I do work in the social field, so I could work with and helping people, but I don't do it to make a better world as a whole, I just like to work there and I try to better the life of some individuals.

I also will stand up for some lgbt or other right movements, but I don't really think that such things should be greater than my life, like: they won't become the center of my life. Also, especially speaking up for lgbt movements is also pretty "egoistic" from me, because in the end, I do it for myself as well.
I also care about living with at least a smaller carbon footprint (nothing big, but a bunch of small things), but in the end I also do it for myself as well, because you can't have a good future, or give your children a good future, on an earth that is literally on fire.

I think, many people, who care about the "big picture" are doing it, because they will also benefit from it.
And even, if it's only about helping people or animals in need: Helping others activates our reward system. So we are doing it to get a good feeling. Theoretically: If it felt terrible to do so, nobody would care for others.
And it's not just a temporary good feeling, a lot of these people also find their value and meaning of their life through their work and ideals of a big picture. So, in the end, it's always, at least partwise, about your own needs.