Why do so many people hate this show so much?

Oct 28, 2020 4:37 AM

#101

kaiki_fan_boy

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Kaasfondue said:
Lots of bigoted homophobic racist sexist pigs on MAL

I see so this anime really is for sjw lol

check out odd taxi

Oct 28, 2020 4:40 AM

#102

kaiki_fan_boy

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Old_School_Akira said:
I didn't watch it yet but they probably hate yuasa and are tired of him since we get 4 different anime from him every year

I love yuasa but this is bad

check out odd taxi

Dec 7, 2020 11:55 AM

#103

BiobulletM

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JokerVentura said:
I can't speak for others but here why I think the show is bad.
This is sold as a Yuasa series, it clearly isn't.
The series director wasn't him and nothing about the show seemed up to his standard.
The writing was poor and the characters were weakly written or.....Daniel. (You never go full Daniel)
The cult arc was pure unneeded padding and the ending was as dull as the entire series.
Even its attempts at social commentary are poor. From the rap to the pure blood bigots bad, go boom in boat.
What I don't get is the praise. I see nothing worthy of praise in this show.

Wow, I've seen only up to episode 2 and I was getting strong vibes about what you said, seems like all of them are true. Well, just another series I might drop after I watch the episodes I downloaded in my Netflix app.

34 years old ossan who still watches anime

Dec 21, 2020 8:29 AM

#104

camaradmari

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I didn't really care for the choppy animation or anything, for me it was mainly the majority of the characters that I hated. Only reason I forced myself to watch until the end was because I was curious about how the world would change

Dec 27, 2020 7:10 AM

#105

hyouttoko

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bastek66 said:
Maybe because of shit like this

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bastek66 said:
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Dec 27, 2020 7:12 AM

#106

hyouttoko

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overall, this is not bad show.

Jan 2, 2021 5:16 AM

#107

RefreshNerves

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Mar 2020

maybe just because was bad especially the second half. Archer grandpa, unnecessary sex scene, shitty cult story and few more

Jan 16, 2021 1:17 PM

#108

astra_moon

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There are many flaws with this show, I will admit. Especially the art is pretty rough at some spots. They seem to be great at landscapes and buildings falling to pieces/sinking, but the characters look pretty damn awful most of the show.

I will also admit plot convenience was quite used in this show. The chances that all these events happen to the same small group of people is pretty much zero, especially if you consider that most of the Anime seems to take place of the course of only a week or so (or maybe 2 weeks at most, but that's stretching it).

But the 'illogical character motivations' and 'plot-holes' criticism I am not so sure I agree with most of the time. Many of these things are pretty easily filled in with a bit of reading between the lines.

[Warning: I am going to lists some things considered heavy spoilers]

-Why did the main girl not mention or threat her leg earlier?
--She was probably too proud (since she used to be a runner, she wanted to buckle through on her own, which is pretty normal for her age) and didn't want to bother her family with it. Just like her not telling anyone about her trauma's during the dead of her team-mates. She thinks (as many her age, including me XD) that keeping your own problems to yourself and solving them on your own, is the 'adult' way of doing things. Spoiler: it's not and we all learn that sooner or later in life.

-Why is no-one mourning the dad and some other characters after their death (except the main girl)?
--In many of these (survival) situations, you don't have much time to think or mourn anyone. They all try to keep themselves and others of the group alive. Plus the girl that is mourning and angry about their deaths, is usually delaying the rest of the group with it, which doesn't particularly help any of their survival-chances; possibly harms it even. (Also, keeping the 'positive thinking' up, to me is not that strange when you are dealing with a situation in which you want to minimize mental harm to the kids involved. You wouldn't want ANY of the groups members to lose the will to live while trying to survive.)

-Why rapists / cultists??
--When no law, police or judge is there to keep order anymore, these things are not unthinkable to happen. Certain people only are kept in check as long as there are enough repercussions to their actions. The laws between good and bad just blur a lot more and many people would take advantage of that if that is the case.

As for the weed in the food... I guess they didn't want to go too far with their narrative, but it's happened many times before that cults used substances to keep easier control on people or to keep them coming back to them. Weed is probably the least 'harmful' one they could come up with.

-Why Japanese nationalism / racism??
--As much as we don't like to think about it this fact: Japan is (certainly under the older generation) less unanimous against 'anti-foreigner' ideas than most other countries. They are usually polite about it, but discrimination based on being a foreigner is pretty blatant if you live it Japan. If you would like some examples on this: google terms like "pulling the Gaijin card", read stories/watch vlogs about taking a foreigner to a police-station but not their Japanese friends (simply because they are not a 'pure blood Japanese') are legit things that happen. As a foreigner there are usually way more strict rules on buying a house or owning a pet, simply because there is a paranoia that you might leave the country out of nowhere.(as if pride in a heritage is the only thing that keeps you somewhere...)

-SJW elements??
--I personally never see a diverse cast as a negative, as long as they don't push it for that narrative alone. I didn't get the feeling this show did that. I especially am not the one to complain about it, since most Anime aren't that great in depicting diversity in the first place. And about the 'racist elements' I answered in the point above.

I can go on, but you get most of what I am saying.

Conclusion: This show, while flawed, is a rare show that shows pretty realistically how flawed humans can be and how much more those flaws come out in difficult situations of pure survival and death. I know we tend to like Anime a lot for showing us fantasies that take us out of our own reality, but in a show that is this concise that tries to depict a realistic version of what COULD happen if a whole damn island would collapse in on itself, this is pretty upfront and reasonably well-done.

PS: I agree 100% that the cultists part was ridiculous and honestly, it shouldn't have been in this show at all. They went a bit too overboard with their experimental ideas there XD

astra_moonJan 16, 2021 1:25 PM

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Jan 18, 2021 9:45 AM

#109

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man, this thread sure is full of some try-hard edgy people. i guess having an anime with people of different races, genders, & such makes it "bad" and only "for sjw." the reviews really be out here saying they wish the family was "classic." anime fans really do be the worst sometimes, huh.

Jan 22, 2021 8:51 AM

#110

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crybabymae said:
i guess having an anime with people of different races, genders, & such makes it "bad" and only "for sjw."

Where did you get that conlcusion from? trolls?

Jan 22, 2021 8:52 AM

#111

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Jaksser said:

crybabymae said:
i guess having an anime with people of different races, genders, & such makes it "bad" and only "for sjw."

Where did you get that conlcusion from? trolls?

literally reading the replies here & the reviews in here as well.

Jan 22, 2021 6:38 PM

#112

Jaksser

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crybabymae said:

Jaksser said:

Where did you get that conlcusion from? trolls?

literally reading the replies here & the reviews in here as well.

so it's trolls then

Jan 24, 2021 12:37 PM

#113

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Satyr_icon said:
Because it's just bad. And cheesy. And dumb. And uses shock value in such an uneven and tacky way I could watch only two episodes before giving up.

The first episode is just ridiculous. The family has some amazing plot armour. The girl's entire team is straight out murdered, thrown against the ceiling, stuff falls on them, yet the main girl manages to get out of it with a scratch on her leg (which will probably get infected, but I won't really wait for that).

It also gets even worse. Probably, the only nearly decent episodes are the first two, maybe not even that.

Jan 24, 2021 12:41 PM

#114

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Sigmar-Unberogen said:
I, for instance, don't see how people can honestly say they love this abomination. Yes, everyone has a different taste, but the number of flaws are so huge, it's hard to grasp how people would completely ignore it or justify it and call it decent or good.
The art and animations is beyond awful. It's pathetic and makes you wonder if the animators were lazy or they just let some middle-school kids practice their skill for the first time. But even if we close our eyes on animation, the rest is just as bad!
Characters are unrelatable and boring and annoying.
There are ridiculous amounts of luck and conveniences.
The amount of "WTF am i watching?!" moments are off the roof. The entire cultist arc is horrible and really makes me want to vomit when i remember it.
Here are some other examples and i'm writing in a hurry; i can literally make a wall of text about sins in this anime:

The whole cultists, Japanese nationalist, random degenerates and rapists and racists.
The show doesn't know wtf its doing with its plot!!!

I can't imagine how people can compare Tokyo magnitude 8.0 with this piece of crap. The show had a decent start and the final message was good, but the 90% of the show is downright catastrophic.

I honestly couldn't care less about who directed this show and don't know why i would've hated it less if, say it was made by Makoto Shinka. If it's horrible - It's horrible, and it deserves all the hate it gets. Garbage like this should've never been allowed to air on screen. It's pathetic, and shameful, and i would've dropped it after episode 2 or 3 - if i weren't a fan of disaster/post-apocalypse genre.

I would definitely recommend people to avoid this garbage like a plague. I pity the time I've spent on it. *spits*

P.S Believe it or not, I'm perfectly relaxed and calm while writing this; just expressing the anger and disappointment i felt while and after watching the show.

Oh, I am so 100% with you. I am sucker to apocalypse/disaster stuff either games/movies/anime, but stupidity of characters in this show is way beyond me. Prime example: girls leg, which could be treated in like 1st episodem(her father had first aid kid and helped Go stiched his wound!!!) or in this weird cult place (they had morphine, so Im sure that they had some other medicines/bandages etc.) BUT NOOOOOOO... LETS WAIT TILL LEG GOT SOOOOO BAD THAT IT HAS OT BE CUT!! BRILLIANT LOGIC xD I just wanted some Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 vibe. What I got was some freak show.

Don't forget the part where one of the guys got impaled by a broken steel beam and got stitched up pretty good afterwards

Jan 24, 2021 12:48 PM

#115

cyberianrave

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UtopyconIII said:
Why so much? I've a simple answer: The worst tyranny is on the tongue! Not in the brain.
For tongue i mean consumer's tastes, all the criteria from which him o her will judge an artistic product.

How many animes got a high score despite their anonymous characters drawn like a doll? With zero depth? A lot of people watch this kind of products!

Japan Sinks 2020 has many brutalities twisted with funny moments, it's shameless in its communication, shows more human weakness than usual.

People are less inclined to accept that a mother shows no feelings about her husband's death,
that people can die in the stupidest way, in a stroke of eyebrow;
that we humans are more disproportionate than we realize.

Imperfections in the design make the anime more natural, show more character in the characters!
I can't judge this anime as a masterpiece, but it's an interesting work located in a sea of banality.

8.5/10 for me.

what kind of a "character" is there to see in the characters is to be addressed first. To be fair, the only barely human character I've seen in the series was Kite, everyone else were written too poorly, too uncanny. None of them acted like actual human beings. Even Kite had many terribly written moments.

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