Attack on Titan
| But you can't deny that it was very fast paced. It felt like they were jumping from scene to scene in Reiners flashbacks. For me it was more meaningful in the manga. |
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| The thing I wonder the most who is deciding about the number of episodes for the productions like this? Is it the studio or some outside production cometee? Do they have to include the opinions of tv channel representative, investors or what? |
Lumiax said: But you can't deny that it was very fast paced. It felt like they were jumping from scene to scene in Reiners flashbacks. For me it was more meaningful in the manga. Its cause you read the manga first thats why no anime adaption is 100% fully adapted correctly not even FMAB and Hxh 2011 was like no book no comic book to movie is ever adapted 100% and It will never be |
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dmphatic23 said: So what I mean by this is if you are a person who was following the previous seasons of attack on Titan while reading the manga you know there have been cuts made and Studio WIT would have possibly done the same cuts if not cut some other stuff.... So stop blaming it on MAPPA the cuts were always gonna happen and I believe all manga readers knew that this would happen the moment they were reading these dialogue heavy chapters when they first released. IMO they cut the right stuff to flow the story in more of an anime flow coz some stuff just wouldn’t flow naturally when adapted to an anime and this was done well(referring to ep3). As an adaptation this is pretty solid right now and I can’t see any anime-onlies having problems coz what they don’t know can’t hurt them but only hurts the toxic manga readers. The funny thing is, if Wit studio was animating snk it would have still be the same pacing, because its the same script writer from previous seasons, so this has nothing to do with Mappa but more the production committee and how many episodes the script writer have to work with. @kronos7 Production committee decide that, the script writer will then have to work with the episode count, so for example they say they want the final season with this chapter and with this amount of episodes, the script writer will have to work with that. also its the same script writer from previous seasons so this has nothing to do with Mappa. |
DragonYuk said: Lumiax said: But you can't deny that it was very fast paced. It felt like they were jumping from scene to scene in Reiners flashbacks. For me it was more meaningful in the manga. Its cause you read the manga first that's why no anime adaption is 100% fully adapted correctly not even FMAB and Hxh 2011 was like no book no comic book to movie is ever adapted 100% and It will never be That's right. A true 1:1 adaptation, or in other words, a retelling, can never happen, mainly because it wouldn't work as well as it worked in its original format. Adaptations exist to cover this issue, some changes are necessary to help the story flow better in its new format, so cutting some unimportant things or rearranging some sections is expected. And btw this comes from a VNs fan, where adapting everything is literally impossible. (yet some people still complain...) And on top of that we have to add the situation of the TV slot and a lot more production issues and decisions. |
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keragamming said: Ah yes, an intellectualdmphatic23 said: So what I mean by this is if you are a person who was following the previous seasons of attack on Titan while reading the manga you know there have been cuts made and Studio WIT would have possibly done the same cuts if not cut some other stuff.... So stop blaming it on MAPPA the cuts were always gonna happen and I believe all manga readers knew that this would happen the moment they were reading these dialogue heavy chapters when they first released. IMO they cut the right stuff to flow the story in more of an anime flow coz some stuff just wouldn’t flow naturally when adapted to an anime and this was done well(referring to ep3). As an adaptation this is pretty solid right now and I can’t see any anime-onlies having problems coz what they don’t know can’t hurt them but only hurts the toxic manga readers. The funny thing is, if Wit studio was animating snk it would have still be the same pacing, because its the same script writer from previous seasons, so this has nothing to do with Mappa but more the production committee and how many episodes the script writer have to work with. @kronos7 Production committee decide that, the script writer will then have to work with the episode count, so for example they say they want the final season with this chapter and with this amount of episodes, the script writer will have to work with that. also its the same script writer from previous seasons so this has nothing to do with Mappa. |
| Some important secenes came from nowhere like Annie metting with Kenny, I didn't read manga forward chapter 90 so I am not sure if it was better. |
| These cuts were some of the best moments of the arc. Reiner's POV felt so much more impactful in the manga because of those extra flashbacks and panels taken. That Annie scene came out of nowhere in this episode, and left the anime onlies confused. This is on the studio. Maybe WiT would've done the same or they would've made it much better. We don't know but I'd trust them more than MAPPA. |
ReegrezSNK said: Some important secenes came from nowhere like Annie metting with Kenny, I didn't read manga forward chapter 90 so I am not sure if it was better. Similar situation to S3 Part 1 granted she mentioned poking around in the sewers but yeah there is a lot of context to why Reiner, Annie and Bert waited so long. That's the only detail missing some of the scenes like Annie racing to the walls weren't super necessary but it would have been nice just to make the episode a minute or two longer just to explain they were trying to get close with the interior police. Though even still this is the actual only episode I felt there were some notable cuts like that though. Though yeah to respond to the thread this is how the final season would have ended up WIT or no WIT. Sure personally I would have liked a bit more time but at most this feels around S3 Part 1 pacing and I missed the scenes cut in Uprising more than here. I don't mind people bringing up not always being happy with the cuts. I like more down time between big moments so if I could I would have left many of those scenes in but I just get annoyed pretending this is new or WIT wouldn't have done this because they don't decide that and the script writer is the same. The scenes they did adapt were adapted excellently and while some scenes I would have liked to still be in I don't feel it hurts the overall adaption. |
BilboBaggins365Dec 20, 2020 2:31 PM
anime_abhi said: Inferno792 said: These cuts were some of the best moments of the arc. Reiner's POV felt so much more impactful in the manga because of those extra flashbacks and panels taken. That Annie scene came out of nowhere in this episode, and left the anime onlies confused. This is on the studio. Maybe WiT would've done the same or they would've made it much better. We don't know but I'd trust them more than MAPPA. I hope you do know that a thing known as production committee exists. And there is also a script writer. And fun fact the script writer for this season is the same as previous seasons. So no matter which studio was adapting, the pacing would have been the same so stop putting the pacing on mappa. They are doing a great job. It should have been better paced for sure and had a better impact in the manga but dude, that's not on the studio As I said, we wouldn't know if WiT would've had the same pacing. The production committee wouldn't do this without consent from the studio. I doubt it was the decision of the "production committee" to have only 16 episodes for this part of the season. |
| I am actually glad that Reiner's flashback is short. It's not that good. Now, Mappa, faster bring us to the crazy shit part. |
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ReegrezSNK said: Some important secenes came from nowhere like Annie metting with Kenny, I didn't read manga forward chapter 90 so I am not sure if it was better. Manga is definitely 100% better. You get more emotionally invested cuz it's paced perfectly. I recommend you to read it. |
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| @dmphatic23, I've been thinking about exactly the same thing and I even planned to make a thread about it, but you I saw that you have already made one. Exactly. I am an anime-only, so I can't tell really how much stuff from the source material didn't make it to the anime adaptation, and I can only base my knowledge on what people familiar to the manga have written about it. However I find it very funny to see how a lot of people are getting triggered with each episode from The Final Season, almost blaming MAPPA for butchering the source material in the animated adaptation of it. First of all, Studio Wit also cut a lot of material and it was visible to the point that many anime-onlys, including myself, simply decided to ask manga readers how this or that scene have been like in the manga, or even why some scenes looked quite awkward (in example those multiple scenes about the crowning of Historia and dialogues that were not adapted). But was it a huge flaw? Not really. Most of people didn't even notice that something looked quite awkward and just had fun while watching the anime. Why? Because animations are created in a different way than still images or even motion comics. Their creators must follow certain rules to adapt the source material, make everything look good and coherent, and in the end fit everything into the amount of minutes that each episode was given to last. That's why saying that because of cutcontent (if we can name the stuff mentioned above like that) MAPPA is awful and Studio Wit was perfect (as if they didn't resign from adapting some panels from the manga) is silly in my opinion. |
Alpha_Druid said: ReegrezSNK said: Some important secenes came from nowhere like Annie metting with Kenny, I didn't read manga forward chapter 90 so I am not sure if it was better. Manga is definitely 100% better. You get more emotionally invested cuz it's paced perfectly. I recommend you to read it. I will read it for sure after season end, but I doubt its better, for me one of the strongest sides of anime are VA and Soundtrack. I prefer watch anime first and read manga after it too see cut scenes and changes. |
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