Attack on Titan
AnoiasGekai said: Why didn't they use CGI with trailer at first place... most of the scenes were replaced The cart and jaw titan scenes are basically the same. Looking at the Attack Titan shot that likely is also CG maybe some of the stills aren't but the rotating one around the city is. The PV isn't that different I don't get where people are getting it is. Anyway it's likely the production schedule and also probably the reason why WIT dropped unlikely to finish it in the timeframe and why MAPPA was chosen (they have a good CG department vastly better than what WIT had though still a step down from 2D Animation). |
BilboBaggins365Dec 7, 2020 12:38 AM
deg said: TolkienFan365 said: The cart and jaw titan scenes are basically the same. Looking at the Attack Titan shot that likely is also CG maybe some of the stills aren't but the rotating one around the city is. The PV isn't that different I don't get where people are getting it is. Anyway it's likely the production schedule and also probably the reason why WIT dropped unlikely to finish it in the timeframe and why MAPPA was chosen (they have a good CG department vastly better than what WIT had though still a step down from 2D Animation). here is an example @MAQS of what im talking about here https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1880151#msg61321564 @TolkienFan365 nope they outsource the 3DCG to a studio called V-Sign Huh I heard it was inhouse.......someone lied to me. Well regardless it is better than who WIT often outsourced to. Studio decisions also matter in that regard (what connections they have). |
| Time definitely. Eren31 said: Mattinator95 said: I guess that's not the right answer considering the school god and jujutsu kaisen made mappa with amazing animationWorse schedule/production The AoT producers were asking around other studios around the time S3 were still airing. So only around 1-2 years ago. And with that tight schedule, they need to make everything from scratch (since all the characters grew up. Different place setting. More titans, etc). So i definitely agree with the "worse schedule" part since i read that the comitee insisted it needs to be aired in 2020. |
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| You can see the world is absolutely fucked and people are ill when you hear the words "stop being an ungrateful consumer" lmao. People literally have audacity to defend rich capitalist tyrants who work their animators like slaves against the consumers who wanted something good and paid for it. It's a crazy world we live in. |
1nf4m0us said: I know man but many studios rejected the final season because it was such a tight schedule. If MAPPA didn't accept this project, we would never even have a final season. So hope you can get used to it, but I promise you if this season has good pacing, SNK will be one of the greatest anime of all time. Just to correct one small mistake; if MAPPA didn't accept this, we would still have a final season. Committee would have to make the conditions and schedule better and wait for a 2021 release. MAPPA isn't some sort of a tragic hero, they are at fault as much as the committee. |
Levitj121 said: Waiting would've been the best thing to do, the first episode is supposed to be the most well animated, if this is mappa's peak then I'm terrified of how it's gonna drop. I agree. People are so hindsighted that they can't understand what first ep 1 being like this would mean for the rest of the season, and what it tells about the production conditions the studio is in. They think it's all "I hate cgiiiii" for us. On a kinda-positive note though; we've heard many times they were outsourcing most of the key episodes and moments to other studios. This could be worse, but it'll probably be better than this failure of an episode imho. So, hopes for good fights aren't exactly over yet if the studios they are outsourcing to are decent. |
Levitj121 said: Exactly, It's not just baseless hatejerking on Mappa, these are warning signs. They ignored all the warning signs from the lack of promotional material until the last week to the controversial pre-made PV and leaks about the production. People with logic did see this was coming and talked about these things, and now we see what's about the happen once more. The other people will continue to ignore it until one episode, they can't. |
  how would one look at these and say CGI is just as good? |
CGI is just good xD |
| aw man CGI :(. My Greatest weakness |
| 4th times getting signature banned wtf |
| Yeah sure... Levitj121 said: That's the scene I was talking about, Reiner and the Beast titan have never been CG. None of the 15 meters have except in super specific scenarios like 3 frames of eren carrying the boulder. I love the show dear, I even got my dad to watch it, I'm gonna have to explain why it looks so different and that's why this bothers me so much, not really because I'm deeply offended by it. the problem is that it will get worse,unless they suddenly switch to 2D... which is NOT happening |
the main issue is you are showing one of the most important fight in s2 and comparing with a normal fight from s4. For example take s3p2 ep 2 and compare to s2ep7. Sure s3p2 ep 2 had some important action but it's not high stake as s2 ep 7 or s3p2 ep 4 or 5 |
| The only thing for me is that Armored and Beast Titans(maybe Jaw?) were made CG for a good while. Which hasn’t been done before. I can understand why you might be put off by it. However I think it looks fine. If you compare it to previous seasons you will definitely notice it though. I’m not saying you’re not allowed to compare but it’s pretty good for CGI so I’ll let it slide. They used 2d on Galliard which I was happy about, either way. |
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Krugerman said: I thought the same thing too but think abt it, if MAPPA didn't accept it, tell me which studio will even agree to release on 2021? Def not Bones, Ufotable, David Pro, it was most likely doomed to some other worse studio-like Deen imo. Best case scenraio was Ig but I doubt they will have picked it up considering WIT dropped it and I may be wrong and they amy have picked it up if release in 2021 fall but that's unlikely imo. Wit wouldn't forced to drop the series if the schedules were humane and reasonable to begin with. 12 episodes every 2 or 1.5 years were fine, or the committee should give them a seat in the committee so they could at least get their hard-works earnings. They ignored Wit and used them like slaves, but ended up with MAPPA on the committee lmao. |
Krugerman said: nah man, the thing is WIT is more focused on anime original projects cause they bring in more money to help them grow. Vinland Saga is an exception cause they are part of Production Committee That's exactly what I'm talking about. If committee gave a seat to them just like they did with MAPPA, they would earn money and keep making AoT untill the end. They were so fucked by the intensity of producing AoT and getting too little money, they decided to just drop it before the studio falls. They are producing the Vinland Saga season 2, what original anime are you talking about? They would focus both adaptations and originals. |
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