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May 7, 2019 11:15 AM
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Before the triggered One Piece fanboys attack me, let me explain.
When does Toei Animation starts to animate a single Manga chapter per episode/5 min intro, 10 min recap/flashback, 5 min outro ?

I'm trying to get into One Piece and I'm looking to drop some episode to lower the weight of the episodes.
Thank you.
May 7, 2019 11:30 AM
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The pacing got really bad at the start of the Dressrosa arc IIRC... Still enjoyed it.
GakutoDeathGlareMay 7, 2019 11:51 AM
May 7, 2019 11:32 AM
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At the start of the Thriller Bark saga, I think.
May 7, 2019 11:44 AM
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Watch it for yourself if you want to know. Everyone will tell something different. Also, there is no outro in one piece since long ago.
May 12, 2019 6:45 AM
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After episode 381 when Thriller Bark ended.

The story becomes stupid after that, the themes of the new arcs gradually stop making any sense, the pirate feel of the anime is disappearing more and more.

The design of characters after the timeskip is unimaginative and less appealing than the design from 1999.

The story just takes too long, even if you drop the anime and switch to the manga, it takes so long and nothing really happens anymore. The crew lands on the next island, some of them get into some trouble, there are a couple of minor bad guy fights, then the plot of the arc starts to unfold, the "bosses" are introduced, as well as their power, the "chosen" crew members get to fight the "bosses" and Luffy gets to fight the "biggest boss", they fights always start with the good guys losing and in the end they get a flashback, think about friends and nakama, pull out some new skill and win and the same thing happens again and again... for 800 episodes.
May 12, 2019 7:03 AM
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Everyone will tell you something different.
For me, I think after the timeskip is when everything starts to drop off a bit. I've just finished the Fish-man Island arc, and that was loooong. I found it hard to engage in the arc/characters because in every single arc theres a character that you're almost forced to care about, and in that particular arc, it just didn't happen for me.

Of course, watch it for yourself and see what you think. Personally I still really enjoy the anime now in the later stages just because I need to know about how the story progresses to where it is now. Also the characterisation of the crew make it so much easier to watch as I care so much about the characters.
May 18, 2019 3:20 PM
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People need to start being honest with this show. Because if you cut out the GIGANTIC FILLER arcs and then the useless non-meaningful scenes to stretch an episode AND the 6min recap+intro then you'd get 200episodes worth of content out of the 850+ episodes.

So what does that make it?
May 18, 2019 8:09 PM
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I love how only 6 minutes of an episode is new content while the other 18 minute are wasted on the opening, flashbacks, long stares, and still-frame panning.
May 18, 2019 9:30 PM
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During Thriller Bark, the show starts to drag out shit for a min and gotten worse by the timeskip.
May 18, 2019 9:42 PM

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I think this really depends on how your experiencing it. It my humble opinion i think one piece was a series designed to be watched in huge chunks at a time. Watching weekly is something you really don't want to get involved in so i imagine if your binge watching it. The pacing won't bother you as much, recaps can always be skipped and so can openings/endings if you can't stomach them.

The series over all pacing does get very stretched out in the NW saga arcs but the way filler is implemented into the series is more relevant to its plot and elements presented where as in naruto for example you get alot of nonsensical filler padding/episodes that take you completely out of the experience. In other words one piece uses its filler as a way to prolong or stall the pacing of the arc by either incerting some sort of comedy moment or just extra fight scenes. Fillers are "relevent" to the story though.




Recaps i think is fans worst concern and with the show TOIE gets crazy with them towards the 2nd half of the series. But as i said, you can always skip them and it won't break the momentum of the plot that much.

We are currently watching a sort of intermission kind of arc with huge bomb shells and lots of plot development, how ever TOIE is using most of the time to showcase lots of flashbacks because of many returning characters. Again this is purely your choice and you can always choose to skip these. But that is one example.

Also many added scenes in the anime were far better then what the manga entailed so its worth it to check out of some awesome moments, (IE dressrosa, katakuri, big mom, kaido, etc)

On the other hand, oda designed the story of one piece to be a more adventure series but the pacing of the manga has always been more plot oriented then the anime. How ever even ODA has indicated that he will intentionally leave gaps in the manga for the studio to fill in later with original material so that is from the horses mouth him self. It is really NOT that bad as people make it out to be because i guess its alot worse if your sitting through on a weekly bases watching an arc unfold over the span of years then it would be to just binge watch the hell out of it and enjoy the epic journey.
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May 18, 2019 9:56 PM

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The HIGH BUDGET shows as early as Enies Lobby where the recaps last up to 8 minutes. (though this is still regarded by many One Piece fans to be one of the best arcs in the entire series.)
Animation and pacing quality stays solid until the time skip. It's supposed to take the biggest nosedive around Dressrosa, but I'm not at that arc yet.
The current episodes will sometimes adapt only one chapter or even half of a single chapter per episode and it's pretty abysmal.
However, I love the characters so much that I'll endure it all for them.
Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill.
May 18, 2019 10:35 PM

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young_kappa said:
The HIGH BUDGET shows as early as Enies Lobby where the recaps last up to 8 minutes. (though this is still regarded by many One Piece fans to be one of the best arcs in the entire series.)
Animation and pacing quality stays solid until the time skip. It's supposed to take the biggest nosedive around Dressrosa, but I'm not at that arc yet.
The current episodes will sometimes adapt only one chapter or even half of a single chapter per episode and it's pretty abysmal.
However, I love the characters so much that I'll endure it all for them.


Well actually the animation quality rose up after the dressrosa arc and it's currently very good. So all the "animation quality after time skip is bad" don't apply anymore. As for the pacing, it always have been similar since they entered the grandline. Nothing much changed after timeskip except that the arc became longer both in the anime and in the manga. But the overall pace of an episode is closely the same. I remember people complaining on the pacing when we were in the water 7 arc. Nothing much has changed as of today.
May 18, 2019 10:39 PM

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After the timeskip
May 19, 2019 5:01 PM

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Never, it gets better with each episode.
May 19, 2019 5:16 PM

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Post-timeskip for sure. Fishman Island and Punk Hazard are where Toei starts the bullshit and Dressrosa is where it’s impossible to not notice. Downright unwatchable.
May 19, 2019 5:26 PM

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Hrybami said:
young_kappa said:
The HIGH BUDGET shows as early as Enies Lobby where the recaps last up to 8 minutes. (though this is still regarded by many One Piece fans to be one of the best arcs in the entire series.)
Animation and pacing quality stays solid until the time skip. It's supposed to take the biggest nosedive around Dressrosa, but I'm not at that arc yet.
The current episodes will sometimes adapt only one chapter or even half of a single chapter per episode and it's pretty abysmal.
However, I love the characters so much that I'll endure it all for them.


Well actually the animation quality rose up after the dressrosa arc and it's currently very good. So all the "animation quality after time skip is bad" don't apply anymore. As for the pacing, it always have been similar since they entered the grandline. Nothing much changed after timeskip except that the arc became longer both in the anime and in the manga. But the overall pace of an episode is closely the same. I remember people complaining on the pacing when we were in the water 7 arc. Nothing much has changed as of today.


What he said is honestly spot on but let me add a bit to it. I think the way many fans percieve the anime is quite different on a weekly bases and also if they are manga fans because they are always looking for content to match up exactly to the source material. Suddenly TOIE throws in some original content, and the fanbase just flys off the handle thinking "this is filler, omg the story is not moving" when in actuality some of that filler just adds certain light hearted moments or parts of the story that are need to expand upon that oda him self could of very well added to the source material if he so inclined to add more characterization or comedic relief. Anime only fans are not blinded by this and enjoy what they see at face value where as manga fans, perceive it as just being another way to pad out the story with material that was not in the manga.

Now mind you there are moments in the series where it becomes unbelievably obvious, but to say water 7 had flaws regarding pacing is just ridiculous. That is where people are obviously bitching and complaining because its not exactly panel to panel pacing.

Its honestly a matter of perspective in that regard. So knowing that there will "always" be complainers that are not satisfied with the series not matching up with the manga is a given anyways.

I can't tell you how many anime series i have watched in my day like Full metal alchemist, Inuyasha, love hina, to love RU, world god only knows, Ghost in the shell and i had absolutely no familiarity of the manga or source materials at all but yet i still absolutely enjoyed it. In fact some of the filler in inuyasha was pretty damn good. How ever i had no idea it was filler. The original FMA series was an amazing philosophical and darker representation of the FMA universe and story and i loved it. Our minds have a tendency of being often per-swayed when we have certain expectations to follow when viewing and watching anime when trying to follow source material.
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May 22, 2019 11:02 PM
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Hrybami said:
young_kappa said:
The HIGH BUDGET shows as early as Enies Lobby where the recaps last up to 8 minutes. (though this is still regarded by many One Piece fans to be one of the best arcs in the entire series.)
Animation and pacing quality stays solid until the time skip. It's supposed to take the biggest nosedive around Dressrosa, but I'm not at that arc yet.
The current episodes will sometimes adapt only one chapter or even half of a single chapter per episode and it's pretty abysmal.
However, I love the characters so much that I'll endure it all for them.


Well actually the animation quality rose up after the dressrosa arc and it's currently very good. So all the "animation quality after time skip is bad" don't apply anymore. As for the pacing, it always have been similar since they entered the grandline. Nothing much changed after timeskip except that the arc became longer both in the anime and in the manga. But the overall pace of an episode is closely the same. I remember people complaining on the pacing when we were in the water 7 arc. Nothing much has changed as of today.


I never really cared about animation or animation quality, I only care about the story and if it's bad animation can't save it for me as I really don't pay attention to it. I believe anime, like movies and other cartoons should be watched 99% for the story and everything else falls in the 1%. I really don't understand why so many people care about the animation quality.
Jan 4, 2:52 AM
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Its a waste of time
I dropped it long time back
Its a shame with its long pace and repeatable scenes long arcs
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i personally started losing interest when i got to fishman island. probably my most hated arc of any anime.
Jun 7, 10:24 PM
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