Sword Art Online Alternative Gun Gale Online (light novel)
If there's one the thing the developers of GGO clearly don't give much of a crap about then it's balancing. A pure agility build with top tier speed gear pretty much turns you into a Matrix character: But if you believe that that's OP then just think about what rare items are capable of doing cause as we know it's pretty much anything goes as long as you can get your hands on it . GGO has a futuristic setting, we've seen energy based weapons, energy shields and M mentioned something about a spaceship iirc so some weird alien weapons are not of the table. Given how broken the Metamaterial Optical Camouflage Mantle is I've no doubt that there are some rare optical guns which ignore protective fields completely but that's obviously not all. Do you think were going to see some rare Iron Man-esque exosuits? Some mini nukes like the Redeemer from Unreal Tournament? Or an item which lets you call for an airstrike / a satellite cannon? How OP do you think the top tier rare items are going to get? |
NoumuApr 14, 2018 3:05 PM
| Well, it all depends if the MC will start to buying premium packs. |
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Noumu said: If there's one the thing the developers of GGO clearly don't give much of a crap about then it's balancing. 1) A game like GGO doesn't really need to be balanced. They have metagame, guides and stuff for that. 2) GGO is balanced well enough. It has place for snipers, fast and lightly armed close-quarters fighters, machinegunners and other types. LLENN might have done really well in Squad Jam, but it doesn't mean her playstyle is unbeatable. I mean, Bullet of Bullets tournament was won by a sniper and a jedi combo. With runners-up being a player with the same run-and-gun style as LLENN, and a sniper-and-swordsman all in one. |
| Iirc from the novel, most guns are based from real life guns, similar to the guns of fps we played, though I'm not sure if the the categories and subcategories of guns will be mention next episode. |
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flannan said: 1) A game like GGO doesn't really need to be balanced. They have metagame, guides and stuff for that. Sure, metagames are there to balance out the individual fights regardless of how bad the power creep is going to get because everyone ends up using the same stuff anyways but that's beside the point of this thread. The question was "How OP do you think the top tier rare items are going to get?" and not "Is the game still playable?". flannan said: 2) GGO is balanced well enough. Eh no, not even close. The Metamaterial Optical Camouflage Mantle completely breaks game mechanics like the satellite scan. Whether you're camping with a sniper rifle or just treversing the map, there's no reason not to use the mantle like all the time. People are already losing it because of LLENNs camouflage but this thing is on a whole other level. In SAO they mentioned that this one guy lost a tournament despite pretty much everyone agreeing that he was the better player because of the new rare gun the other guy had so nope, having a top tier rare gun / item will give you the edge in competitive play vs. everyone who's just using the "normal stuff". Izanagi said: Meow_Kapow said: Actually, I think it's pretty solid so far. So the question is "how good will it get?" I'm gonna have to say pretty good. Although, these types of threads are obviously just people seeking attention for their hate of a series. Almost as if you took the words from my mouth. Almost as if you guys have no idea what this thread is about. |
NoumuApr 15, 2018 10:33 AM
| I my opinion SAO was good ,but then GGO ( SAO 2) came out and killed it for me. So, yea I think its gonna go horrible. |
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AmaiiKunstKust said: TypicalEvan said: I my opinion SAO was good ,but then GGO ( SAO 2) came out and killed it for me. So, yea I think its gonna go horrible. How so? Please tell us, I am curious! The story itself is basically the same thing. The pace of the anime isn't the best as well which makes it boring and nothing seems to happen until 4 episodes air. There are more things that I disliked about the series, but these are the main issues I have with it. |
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| It's implied that the main rivalry is gonna be Karen vs Pitohui, who seems to be a P2W player. OP vs OP is inherently balanced, so yeah none of the hax that Kirishit had lmao |
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| If you mean better,then I'm totally sure 10/10 |
  『 The truth has power because it’s the truth. And because it is the truth, that makes it just. It’s persuasive, isn’t it? Don’t you want truth like that? 』 |
| Ya lets not pick apart the actual anime but the game inside the anime. And then lets say that makes the anime bad. Ffs yall need to understand if they wanted to make a good game they wouldve made the fucking game not put the idea into an anime. They wanted to make a good anime so there really is no need to hyper focus on the game inside it. Whether this will be good or not? Who’s to say. 1st episode was meh but the 2nd was pretty enjoyable so Im at least interested in seeing where it goes. |
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| I'm just going to give this series some time to breathe before I even watch it, let alone judge it. GGO always stood out to me as the more interesting game of the series, and having that without Kirito mucking it up might not be too bad. I also like the fact that Reki isn't the person who wrote it, and since this story is very inconsequential I feel like there might be more room to explore the game itself instead of the need for Kirito to save everyone. Cautiously optimistic is what I'm feeling going into this. |
VyxriaApr 19, 2018 12:16 AM
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| its alright so far, idk how itll compare to original sao tho |
| This isn't SAO, you don't need to be faithful to the hate train. Or if you still don't like it, you can, you know, drop it? If you want to be a masochist you can always watch Boku no Pico instead and it would be much more effective. PS: For maximum hate-train effectiveness, you should now write a 9 paragraph essay explaining how Boku no Pico is better than SAO and GGO. |
| Stop the sequels high-ranking stupidity. Group franchises in Top Anime page. Because Gintama is just "one" anime and not 5. |
| Different author people. Please realize that this author wrote Kino's journey. The 40th ranked novel on this entire website. |
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| The original SAO's GGO tries to be so serious in hillarious situations that becomes a cringe-fest. How can I give any score higher than 4/10 for a story of Kirito as a detective hired by the japanese goverment with a mission to investigate a murder? Come on... This one, at least, just tries to give funny moments. And for the game mechanics being unrealistic. Isn't normal to have MMO all over the internet with developers that have no clue how to balance weapons or just being overwhelmed by bugs? Give me a break. |
AdrianRubinsky said: The original SAO's GGO tries to be so serious in hillarious situations that becomes a cringe-fest. How can I give any score higher than 4/10 for a story of Kirito as a detective hired by the japanese goverment with a mission to investigate a murder? Come on... Actually, seems a better idea compared to how our government handles hi-tech things. Woodfall said: Ya lets not pick apart the actual anime but the game inside the anime. And then lets say that makes the anime bad. Ffs yall need to understand if they wanted to make a good game they wouldve made the fucking game not put the idea into an anime. They wanted to make a good anime so there really is no need to hyper focus on the game inside it. AdrianRubinsky said: And for the game mechanics being unrealistic. Isn't normal to have MMO all over the internet with developers that have no clue how to balance weapons or just being overwhelmed by bugs? Give me a break. I think games in SAO series make a point of repeating known gaming problems for the sake of relatability and plausibility. AmaiiKunstKust said: If you are fine with the GGO and can put up with the overpowered characters (not as much as Kirito I hope) and suff like the weapons you will get a fine experience or at least a so-so one, as you can get with the episode relased so far? Or does not any of it make sense except to me? I have problems understanding your question because of your poor grammar. Also, I wish people would stop calling any capable character "overpowered". Most of this show's characters operate on a similar power level, only minor characters like the machinegun squad are meaningfully less powerful. But if you're asking if it's a good show for people who like shows about shooting - yes, it is. The book is also good, it has some intense writing. TypicalEvan said: The story itself is basically the same thing. The pace of the anime isn't the best as well which makes it boring and nothing seems to happen until 4 episodes air. There are more things that I disliked about the series, but these are the main issues I have with it. If in your opinion nothing happened in episode 1, this show is slice-of-life. Relax and enjoy cute girls doing cute shootouts. Animeforevry1 said: Sossig said: For me this anime will be in my "plan to watch" list. the 1st eps doesn't give much strong feel to keep watching it, rather its just mediocre. Don't get me wrong, i love SAO specifically the first 12 eps, cause thats give a great emotional aspect for me & thats where i start to like anime. Of course everytime i see SAO titles, i expecting to get the feeling like the former SAO, but in the end none of them not even close to that, and then i stop putting high expectations on the latter SAO Maybe the haters came from disappointed fans, lol The haters come from the fact that everything about the Aincrad arc sucked ass besides the premise, which was also squandered to all hell. Season 1 of SAO is the biggest trash I have seen besides Black Butler 2 and Tokyo Ghoul Root A. It really says something when SAO fans like the Aincrad arc the most, and most of the episodes it contains is pure filler that barely if at all progresses the plot. Yeah im saying it! Season 2 of SAO was better than Season 1. My thing is that SAO has only gotten better as time has gone on. Season 1 is by far the low point, in terms of story telling at least and having a coherent plot. As for this series? I am really enjoying it so far, such a breath of fresh air for a different writer to take the SAO universe and make something decent! Llenn is a much more interesting character than Kirito. She is not a god at the game, she has to think, she has to strategise and she does take a lot of hits. The bullshittery has been kept to a minimum compared the main series of SAO too. Coherent plot? No coherent plot would happen if one mashes all the sidestories into the main story to get a linear timeline. I bet if they adapted it the other way around, people would bitch about non-linear timeline instead. Ignoring the side stories was not an option either - one can't just write out half the cast of the later stories and call it an adaptation. (insert rant about Kotarou Inugami being adapted out here) Also, coherent plots are optional in general, and Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu was a masterpiece. SeasonalMoth said: She is pretty much is a God at the game. By the second ep she destroys irl combat pros like it was nothing and can dash REALLY fast. She also camped on her first day of playing the game and scored loads of points, even getting her own cringey nickname like kirito. in my opinion its not a new formula at all and seams like season 2 all over again. It might be not obvious in the anime (but I still think it was obvious enough) but she accidentally ambushed her first group of players far from her first day in the game. She was playing in PvE mode for a while before she got her signature pink outfit and her habit of ambushes. Also, if you can't handle nicknames, you're not manly enough. |
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