Why Batman Ninja In English Is So Different From The Japanese Version "All the visuals are exactly the same in the movie, but the dialogue is maybe 90% different."
| wtf? i have to watch the subbed version too then "The Japanese version is different," Chu said. "All the visuals are exactly the same in the movie, but the dialogue is maybe 90% different." https://www.gamespot.com/articles/why-batman-ninja-in-english-is-so-different-from-t/1100-6458513/ EDIT: i have rewatch the movie with the japanese translation this time (not the english dub subtitles) and i did not see major differences lol so if im going to rewatch this again im just fine with the english dub |
degMay 3, 2018 12:12 AM
dehuman said: wtf? i have to watch the subbed version too then As soon as somebody does actual subtitles for it. Sounds like a title I'll be not-watching for awhile at this rate. |
nx6 said: dehuman said: wtf? i have to watch the subbed version too then As soon as somebody does actual subtitles for it. Sounds like a title I'll be not-watching for awhile at this rate. lol i have to wait for actual subtitles of the japanese audio too then |
| There is no Kevin Conroy for Batman, and no Mark Hamill for Joker ... so the only option left is japanese. |
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Swagernator said: There is no Kevin Conroy for Batman, and no Mark Hamill for Joker ... so the only option left is japanese. Ninja Batman has Tara Strong, Grey Delisle, Roger Craig Smith, Tom Kenny, Eric Bauza and Fred Tatasciore on the voice cast. Those are all world class voice actors. Conroy and Hamill can't go on voicing these characters forever. Sooner or later you have to accept different people playing these characters and I couldn't think of a more talented group of people to do it. |
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nx6 said: dehuman said: wtf? i have to watch the subbed version too then As soon as somebody does actual subtitles for it. Sounds like a title I'll be not-watching for awhile at this rate. Buy the digital version on amazon, its comes with both versions, it's what I did and it was worth it. |
| “I just spent the last two years thinking that you guys knew more than me about life and I just found out that you guys are just as dumb as me.” “Duh-doy.” “Yeah, duh-doy.” |
JokerVentura said: Buy the digital version on amazon, its comes with both versions, it's what I did and it was worth it. Why the hell would I pay Warner Brothers for a show when they were too cheap to hire a translator or write a proper English adaptation for? Sounds like they haven't earned any of their keep on this -- would be better to just import it (with no English at all) from Japan if I wanted to "support the industry". |
nx6 said: JokerVentura said: Buy the digital version on amazon, its comes with both versions, it's what I did and it was worth it. Why the hell would I pay Warner Brothers for a show when they were too cheap to hire a translator or write a proper English adaptation for? Sounds like they haven't earned any of their keep on this -- would be better to just import it (with no English at all) from Japan if I wanted to "support the industry". Well they funded the entire project, I would say, they weren't that cheap. God knows why the writers rewrote the script for the dub, I've only watched the sub, so I really don't care about the dub. BTW when people like you don't pay for movies like this, it means low sales and warner bros don't give another Japanese studio another chance to do another dc character movie. So I would say warner bros aint cheap, you are. |
JokerVenturaMay 1, 2018 1:12 AM
| “I just spent the last two years thinking that you guys knew more than me about life and I just found out that you guys are just as dumb as me.” “Duh-doy.” “Yeah, duh-doy.” |
JokerVentura said: Well they funded the entire project, I would say, they weren't that cheap. God knows why the writers rewrote the script for the dub, I've only watched the sub, so I really don't care about the dub. In case you missed the very beginning of this thread -- there is no "sub". You watched dubtitles. It was just as inaccurate. BTW when people like you don't pay for this movie, it means low sales and warner bros don't give another Japanese studio another chance to do another dc character movie. So I would say warner bros aint cheap, you are. 1) What a travesty if we couldn't have another American superhero movie from Japan. How would I get the satisfaction of watching these characters on the big screen? It's not like there's a U.S. studio coming out with a half-dozen films about them every year. Oh wait... 2) Well I didn't realize Warner funded the entire thing -- that's different. But if that's true, that also means they would make money on it even if I did buy it from Japan. 3) I'm also not under any obligation to buy a movie (or watch it to start with) just to support an industry/company. That's what a BUSINESS is. If Warner screws up sales with their hijinks, it's on Warner's head. I wouldn't buy a movie without seeing it first anyway. In the modern world of video streaming services (a few of which I subscribe to), there's no reason to act like it's still anime in the 1990s and "blind buy" titles. Heck, I used to rent anime DVDs through the mail years ago from a service. |
nx6 said: JokerVentura said: Well they funded the entire project, I would say, they weren't that cheap. God knows why the writers rewrote the script for the dub, I've only watched the sub, so I really don't care about the dub. In case you missed the very beginning of this thread -- there is no "sub". You watched dubtitles. It was just as inaccurate. BTW when people like you don't pay for this movie, it means low sales and warner bros don't give another Japanese studio another chance to do another dc character movie. So I would say warner bros aint cheap, you are. 1) What a travesty if we couldn't have another American superhero movie from Japan. How would I get the satisfaction of watching these characters on the big screen? It's not like there's a U.S. studio coming out with a half-dozen films about them every year. Oh wait... 2) Well I didn't realize Warner funded the entire thing -- that's different. But if that's true, that also means they would make money on it even if I did buy it from Japan. 3) I'm also not under any obligation to buy a movie (or watch it to start with) just to support an industry/company. That's what a BUSINESS is. If Warner screws up sales with their hijinks, it's on Warner's head. I wouldn't buy a movie without seeing it first anyway. In the modern world of video streaming services (a few of which I subscribe to), there's no reason to act like it's still anime in the 1990s and "blind buy" titles. Heck, I used to rent anime DVDs through the mail years ago from a service. Yes, you're not obligated to support the anime industry with blind buys, but you can't complain about there not being a subtitle version when there is one, you just have to pay for it. |
| “I just spent the last two years thinking that you guys knew more than me about life and I just found out that you guys are just as dumb as me.” “Duh-doy.” “Yeah, duh-doy.” |
| I like how you quoted my entire message but only had a response to a single point. JokerVentura said: Yes, you're not obligated to support the anime industry with blind buys, but you can't complain about there not being a subtitle version when there is one, you just have to pay for it. I can complain about companies releasing inferior products and thinking they're "owed" our support for doing it. Like making-up dialog and calling it subtitles. That is one of the reasons fansubs continue to exist long after companies first took notice of the medium and started doing localized products. In some cases, I can choose to just wait for a release that has actual subs and buy that. Like I did with some Miyazaki films. How many flubbed anime purchases to do you have? I have hundreds of dollars over here. |
nx6 said: I like how you quoted my entire message but only had a response to a single point. JokerVentura said: Yes, you're not obligated to support the anime industry with blind buys, but you can't complain about there not being a subtitle version when there is one, you just have to pay for it. I can complain about companies releasing inferior products and thinking they're "owed" our support for doing it. Like making-up dialog and calling it subtitles. That is one of the reasons fansubs continue to exist long after companies first took notice of the medium and started doing localized products. In some cases, I can choose to just wait for a release that has actual subs and buy that. Like I did with some Miyazaki films. How many flubbed anime purchases to do you have? I have hundreds of dollars over here. Bookshelves of manga, dvds and blu rays, plus figures, some I picked up at Nakano Broadway & Akihabara, none of it is flubbed. Fansubs are still around because not ever anime gets picked up by a western distributor. The Ninja Batman subs I watched were fine, no problems. I bet your one of those people who says all dubbed are inferior, arent ya. The industry aint perfect, but they do a good job most of the time. |
| “I just spent the last two years thinking that you guys knew more than me about life and I just found out that you guys are just as dumb as me.” “Duh-doy.” “Yeah, duh-doy.” |
| @JokerVentura he already mentioned that you watched dubtitles a.k.a subtitltes from the script of the dub and not the sub so even with japanese audio, you can see how inaccurate it is just by making out what you're reading from the one you're hearing- that is if you understand what exactly they're trying to say. Don't misinterpret this as a reply to shit on the dub |
Daniel_Naumov said: EGOIST said: @JokerVentura he already mentioned that you watched dubtitles a.k.a subtitltes from the script of the dub and not the sub so even with japanese audio, you can see how inaccurate it is just by making out what you're reading from the one you're hearing- that is if you understand what exactly they're trying to say. Don't misinterpret this as a reply to shit on the dub Initial subtitles came from English version, wherein the lines were not simply cut, as they did in Japanese voice-over. Overall it was a very poor job, which would be a di-sas-tah, if the project was not overall a big joke. AHAHA I have just seen what studio made it. Okay. Awash by clarity; I see it now Bob team Batman You didn't see the scene where Popuko & Pipimi turn up, flip of The Joker, so head beheads them and says ''I know jokes, and you two aren't funny'' Than Harley dances on their corpses. |
| “I just spent the last two years thinking that you guys knew more than me about life and I just found out that you guys are just as dumb as me.” “Duh-doy.” “Yeah, duh-doy.” |
JokerVentura said: nx6 said: How many flubbed anime purchases to do you have? I have hundreds of dollars over here. Bookshelves of manga, dvds and blu rays, plus figures, some I picked up at Nakano Broadway & Akihabara, none of it is flubbed. You missed the point. Low-effort/botched releases that American licensees put out and think we should buy. I have Steins;Gate on BD, but I never watch it, because of Funimation's brightness boosting and more-visible banding they introduced on their crap encode verses the Japanese release. Same for the Serial Experiments Lain LE box set I have. I regret buying Black Lagoon on BD as well because, again, Funimation brightened the release. My Geneon DVDs look batter. Would it kill Funimation to use two BD50's for a one-cour show, instead of a BD50 with 8-9 episodes and a BD25 with the rest? Packaging costs and such are all the same it would just be a small mastering/manufacturing difference. I don't own Canaan because the English subs Sentai did don't even make sense in some places. Some of these issues I can ignore (audio mastering on Spice & Wolf, contrast boosting on Angel Beats), some get fixed after people complain loudly enough (Code Geass Collector's Edition audio recall). But a lot are simply shrugged off by the makers and are QC-should-have-caught-this level mistakes, and I'm not even talking about willful medocrity like here with Batman Ninja. Buying poor quality products only teaches these companies such practices are acceptable. I bet your one of those people who says all dubbed are inferior, arent ya. The industry aint perfect, but they do a good job most of the time. Yawn. Red Herring much? There are anime I actually think are better in English dub than the original Japanese. Cowboy Bebop, FMA 2003, Gunslinger Girl... I recently rewatched Food Wars in English on HiDive and really liked it. I still like the sub better and FFF did better on-screen typesetting than Sentai, but the dub is good and I'm going to support it by buying it here in the future. |
| I got the Batman Blu-ray https://twitter.com/ShonenChris/status/991411751915806721 And highkey I can confirm this. It makes the characters feel so different too. I watched it both in both. English with Dubtitles and Japanese with English subtitles correlating to the Japanese audio. So in short, the Blu-ray set has two subtitle tracks. |
KaitouMay 2, 2018 7:32 PM
| i have rewatch the movie with the japanese translation this time (not the english dub subtitles) and i did not see major differences lol so if im going to rewatch this again im just fine with the english dub |
| They aren't major as in detrimental to the plot but personality wise they make a difference. Batman is more dramatic in the English dub.....and "poetic" for lack of better word. To be fair though, from knowledge, Batman has kinda been like that so it's not like it's a bad Batman, just a bad interpretation of what was intended. Not necessarily a bad dub but that's subjective. |
Kaitou said: They aren't major as in detrimental to the plot but personality wise they make a difference. Batman is more dramatic in the English dub.....and "poetic" for lack of better word. To be fair though, from knowledge, Batman has kinda been like that so it's not like it's a bad Batman, just a bad interpretation of what was intended. Not necessarily a bad dub but that's subjective. yep thanks for your thoughts, there is sure no major differences on the plot lines at least when it comes to the translation between japanese and english audio |
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