Neko Chat 9

Tyrantarmy6 said:
I has returned~ :3

Okaeri~ :3

If strike witches has more panty shots than ikkitousen then I know I don't have to even try to watch it :P
Even if that meant guro? :3
Ah right. That percentage is calculated with this formula: 100 ÷ anime completed × (ecchi anime completed × 2 + hentai anime completed × 4) :3

We update it and fix any problems we find which are usually issues that would be solved if only wordpress started using namespaces and autoloaders :3
Nah, it's more than that, but I don't fill the plates up completely either :3
But no matter how inferior to the true Japanese sushi it might be, the sushi still doesn't taste bad right? :3

So then, were the subs at least better than when I watched it? When I watched it I could just as well have watched it raw as there were plenty of situations where the subs were nothing like what was actually being said :3

And were they ecchi enough for your taste? :3

Ardanaz said:
Feeling like poo

Gator said:
Okaeri~ :3

I haven't watched it either, but from everything I heard it is indeed the pantsu anime #1 xD
What's the definition of guro anyway? :3
Ecchi * 2? That doesn't seem fair :P

Sounds like your Monday is basically spent just for working on that tbh ^^;
I always eat way too much at those places and at least three well filled plates. Which is why I try not to go there that often :3
Well I'm not too much of a fan of sushi in general, so if I eat it I want it to be at least really good ^^

I didn't notice any grave errors at least, though I guess with my Japanese skills that doesn't say much. Coalgirls subs iirc, which I'm mostly fine with :3

Actually there was. The two seasons before were extremely tame, but they upped the ecchi quite a bit in the OVAs. I'm very pleased :>

Gator said:

Poor neko, have a catgirl ass to cheer you up :3

Tyrantarmy6 said:
Then again, even if it has more pantsu than ikkitousen, being worse than ikkitousen too would be difficult. That anime was almost insulting xD
Guro is based on "grotesque" which refers to things that are malformed, unnatural, or horrific. Basically ero guro is gory hentai by western definition while in japanese definition it's not always the case :3
Well, if they didn't do that then you'd have to watch nothing but ecchi/hentai to get a 100% rating, and if hentai weren't counted by * 4 then it would treat hentai and ecchi equally which isn't fair either :P

Usually I work on that half of the day and then the other half I work on small support tasks and flash. If there are none then it's indeed updating all day ^^;
I also eat way more there than I do at home, but I don't eat much in general so yeah :3
Regardless of whether it's fish sushi or not? :3

Then for example.


Speaking of NGNL, I finally completed volume 7. And as always that just happens to be the only volume that ends on a super nasty cliffhanger... if my japanese reading skills were good enough I'd go read volume 8 raw, but unfortunately that's too much for me xD

So what're you planning to watch next? :3

Ardanaz said:
lmao wtf is that

Gator said:
Nah, it wasn't that bad imo. I mean the story didn't make any sense and we once again got no parents and teachers whatsoever in a school setting, but at least some characters were enjoyable to watch xD
But since I have no hentai on my list I couldn't possibly watch guro hentai, right? :3
That's the meaning of percent, if I watched 50% ecchithen I should be a 50% pervert and not 100% :P

So you actually have enough to do to fill one whole day if you need to? That's quite the horrible update process :3
The more you eat the cheaper it gets right? Gotta make the most out of your money xD
Even other sushi is not great enough for me to eat it more often, it's better though :3

Tbh at that point I got already lost what they're even trying to do and why their plan would work. I just enjoyed the flashy visuals of that fight without paying too much attention to what she said xD

So what do you think about a season 2 then? Would it be good or is the arc rather boring? :3

I really wanna watch the "new" Fairy Tail movie, but there aren't any good subs for it yet. Else I'm thinking about starting Dagashi Kashi, Magi or Golden Time next :3

Tyrantarmy6 said:
It was that bad to me at least. Unlike you I can't enjoy an anime just because it has bouncy oppai and pantsu in it :P
That just means you don't add them to your list. For example, kyonyuu fantasy? :P
That would make the achievement too difficult to acquire though :3

Yeah, but I don't update just 1 website a day. We have over 300 websites to update :3
Sure, but that doesn't mean you need to eat until it hurts xD
Have you had inarizushi? :3

Really? I didn't find it that hard to follow what was going on :3
Though there were some things that weren't very well explained in the movie like what the Ex-Machina did in the end :3

That depends on what they would adapt considering what they did at the end of season 1. Though if they just adapt volume 4, 5 and 7 then it would be pretty interesting I guess... aside from the cliffhanger that is :3

Aaah right, that filler movie that spoils some things from the manga from what I've heard. Doesn't sound like something you should watch until after the ending has been adapted if that's true :3

Gator said:
I see you still accuse me of things I don't do :P
Since I don't finish hentai I don't have a reason to put them on my list :P
How much percent do you need anyway to get it? They could just lower the number and we're fine :3

And you have to do the same update process for each one of those sites? :o
It's hard to stop though if you can just fill your plate again and again xD
Nope that I haven't tried yet. Haven't even seen it somewhere :3

You read the LN so that helped quite a bit. For example I had no idea why and how they :3

Sounds good, now there's actually hope since the movie seemed to be quite popular and Madhouse is doing 2nd seasons :3

Eh, I'll probably watch it in release order again since that's always what I do. Not sure when Fairy Tail 3 will start airing anyway. Btw no comment on those three shows? :o

Tyrantarmy6 said:
You can't deny you can enjoy a show with just the fanservice, otherwise you wouldn't rate some of them a 6 just because of the fanservice right? :P
That depends on your definition of "finish" :P
So you didn't finish kyonyuu fantasy either? :3
Pervert lvl 1 is min 25%, lvl 2 is min 50% and lvl 3 is min 75% :3
In which case you'd still have the achievement wouldn't you? :P

Yep. Though some sites are easier to update than others. If a website uses woocommerce 2.* then I won't even attempt to update it unless I absolutely have to because updating that to the latest version is guaranteed to go horribly horribly wrong :3
No, it's quite simple. If you're full, you're full xD
Even the all you can eat restaurant from yesterday had inarizushi :3

I only read the LN after I watched the movie though :P


I still wouldn't get my hopes up, though it is one of the absolutely necessary things to show the game with the old deus :P
Along with a bunch of characters who haven't even been introduced yet in the anime who participate in it unless of course they intend to just leave them out of the anime entirely :3

No airing date has been given aside from 2018 :3
Well, from those I've only seen Dagashi Kashi which I didn't care much about. I mean, I didn't even watch the 2nd season that aired this season xD
I have watched this though :3

Gator said:
I never rated a show a 6/10 just because of fanservice, how often do I have to tell you that such shows get a 4/10 at max from me? :P
Same definition as with other anime :P
Nope, 2nd episode wasn't as great as the first one :3
They would make 10/30/50 in that case :3
I have less than 50% ecchi though :P

I assume your customers don't really care which version runs on their website though. Maybe your boss sometimes wants you to upgrade it though? :3
There is a Japanese saying about the 2nd stomach... it's true xD
Our Chinese restaurants don't and I've only been to one Japanese once nearby so far :3



I just need more Sora and Jibril, then I'll be fine. As you know I'm pretty character-focused which is why Overlord II wasn't that great so far :3

Unfortunately, but maybe we'll get some information on it then soon. I wanna know who will animate it :3
Some people liked the 2nd season quite a bit though, gonna give it a try. That image doesn't ring any bells at all, what's that? :3

shawnofthedeadz said:

Now this is how you sip tea.

Noire said:

I will remember that.

Tyrantarmy6 said:
But you told me yourself :P
But hentai and anime aren't the same thing :P
Even if you included all the movies/OVAs etc? :3

Many of them don't really care until the site gets hacked, but there's also some that do care :3
It's not true for me though xD
I would love to try out Nattou someday just to annoy my father as he can't stand smelly dishes like fish and miso soup so let alone that xD



You don't care about world building? :3

I wouldn't be surprised if it would be A1 pictures again. I hope whoever does it will animate it properly unlike them though, but I don't expect much after that disaster :3
That's Soredemo sekai wa utsukushii. The MC definitely knows what she wants :3

Gator said:
Oppaiyou~ :3

I never did such a thing :P
So porn movies are not movies either? And Princess Lover is an anime but the Princess Lover OVA is not? :P
I think if I add movies and OVAs I get even less ecchi percentage, I watched every One Piece, Naruto and Dragonball movie xD

In my experience the ones that do care are the hardest customers though since they think that they know all about IT ^^
So you're one of those thin people who couldn't even fit a 2nd stomach in their belly? :3
I have to say Nattou looks kinda disgusting though, not sure if I would try that if I could xD



I don't care much about world building if it means showing boring characters for 20 minutes at least :3

A-1 Pictures is probably set already, the question is who will be the 2nd studio. I would be fine with Satelight again, though I'm hoping for someone better of course :3
Hmm only one season... is it good? :3

Tyrantarmy6 said:
Ohayou~ :3

No, they're not the same thing as in an anime can be hentai, but not all hentai are anime :P
"Even less" than 95.72% :P

Yeah, those are nasty :3
I'm not as thin as I used to anymore, but I still don't eat all that much :3
Looks and smells disgusting so I wonder if it also tastes that way. Could be worth it though just to see my father cringe as I eat it xD



I quite like it how they show extra characters in overlord as ainz & co aren't the only ones in that world and we need to know what they're up against. I mean, it's obvious that at some point in the future the new world will form some kind of alliance to wage war against nazarick, in which case we'd need to know things about said alliance right? Why would anyone care about what happens to the characters in the alliance if you didn't even know any of them nor what they're trying to protect? :3

A1 pictures isn't very well known for well animated fight scenes though. Last week's nanatsu no taizai episode confirmed this again :3
It's pretty good yeah. It's not an ecchi show though :3

So how're you doing today? :3

Gator said:
All hentai anime are anime :P
We were talking about <50% here, not 95.72% :P

I have too many of them T_T
My father is the same, he probably eats 30% of what I do when we have dinner xD
I wouldn't do something like that just to annoy my father though, I'm too sensitive to bad smells for that ^^;

I should take a look at all the races present in NGNL if there is ever a 2nd season announced. There are just too many of them to keep an overview after one season and one movie :3

The problem is that I still don't care about all those characters outside of Nazarick. If Brain, Climb and Renner would die next episode to an assassin attack I wouldn't care less xD

They can if they want to though, I watched a bunch of shows with good animation from them :3
I thought so, guess it's nothing I have a reason to watch so far :3

Will have another workshop at 10 AM, so this will be a long day again. Else nothing special I guess, just the usual working day. You? :3

Ardanaz said:
You still exist! :O

Plutia said:
Am I? :O

Tyrantarmy6 said:
How're you doing today? :3

Plutia said:

I'm sick.. :(

Tyrantarmy6 said:
But I never said hentai anime specifically, just hentai :P
And even then, I already have less than 50% even with the current rules, compared to me you'd still be a super perv :P

Politicians etc also fall in that category :3
Does that mean you just eat a lot, or he eats very little? xD
Eh, the smell of food usually doesn't annoy me very quickly. Nattou is even compared to blue cheese by some :3

You could take a look at the races that have already been revealed in the anime, but I wouldn't be sure about reading info about races that haven't really made an appearance yet. This includes the dwarves :3
It would've been a spoiler because you didn't know about the ex-machina and not to forget about things like the info on artosh :P

Oh, Renner is pretty interesting alright. I'm not sure if I should mention why though as it's already happened, but just hasn't been directly mentioned, and the next event won't happen this season :3

The shows of theirs I've seen don't have very impressive fight scenes though :3
The MC and her sisters do have big oppai though :P

Again? You have too many workshops dude :P
I'm doing fine I guess. Currently working on making a site responsive again, and yesterday I watched the remainder of last week's airing anime :3

Plutia said:
I'm sick.. :(

Kai_N_Walker said:
*sips tea*
*passes cups of tea to other members* :)

Sazerlim said:
thanks

Noire said:
Thanks

Gator said:
Arigatou :3

Kai_N_Walker said:
No Problem^^
How is everyone doing?^^

Gator said:
Just the usual day at work, only looking forward to getting home and being lazy xD
How about you?

Gator said:
That sucks, I also have migraine from time to time so I know how that is T_T

Gator said:
Ohayou~ :3

You were talking about hentai on my list, do my manga list look like there could appear something to you? :P
I'm just not a perv in denial like you >:3

Politicians mostly do want to screw us, most customers just don't know any better xD
I think... both? ^^;
I actually dislikea lot of cheese because of the smell, really can't stand it. Was talking about Nattou with a colleague since you mentioned it and she also told me it smells quite horrible :3

Right, the movie was volume 6 or something? So I assume the races get explained in detail in volume 4 and 5? :3

Well we've already seen a bit more of her and her creepy faces to kinda know where this is going. I watched episode 12 yesterday and I guess the end said everything when she was talking about her plans with Climb xD
I was actually surprised to learn that Ainz didn't even plan to meet Demiurge :o

Hmm fighting scenes I'm not sure actually, but at least Saekano had nice fluid animation :3
If I would only choose by that I would have to watch 90% of all anime out there :P

You don't say? And I don't think it'll get any better those next two months T_T
So as usual I guess, same goes for me. Watched two episodes of Negima OVA and Overlord 12 yesterday. Today I'm planning to watch the last Negima OVA and the movie, which will be the end of Negima for me until UQ Holder gets its BD release :3
Wanna go camping? :3

Kai_N_Walker said:
Migraine is very bad :(

Tyrantarmy6 said:
Ohayou~ :3

No I didn't because I know you've watched hentai but just don't add them :P
Unlike you, I only have the lowest grade perv achievement which as stated by it isn't my fault, there's just too much fanservice in anime :P

And you think politicians know better? :3
I've heard some people describe its smell as sweaty socks :3

It was volume 6 yes. However they don't explain all the races in those 2 volumes. They explain about the races that are relevant in the volumes in question. There's a certain event I would love to see animated in volume 5 but I assume you don't want to be spoiled, so let's just say that event would be the most epic in the series yet :3

Then where do you think it's going with her? :3
Do you like her character a bit more now? xD
Of course he didn't, when do things ever go according to his plans like he tells his subordinates? xD

Yeah, and it's the fighting scenes specifically that I'm talking about :3
And the other 10% are loli anime? I'd say there are far more of those than that, not to forget about the reverse harem etc shows :P

Two months? And how many would that be on a weekly basis? :3
One thing I immediately noticed in the anime adaptation is that the meeting between renner and the adventurers took place in a small room. In the LN it was in a giant hall in the palace where they had gathered like every adventurer in the city and lots of people wanting to shake hands with ainz xD
Camping? Why do you ask? :P

Gator said:

Yeah it's stupid, but I don't really know what causes it >_<

Gator said:
Exactly I watched hentai, so how could it not be anime? :P
Suuure just blame it on anime in general, I mean you couldn't help but watch Okusama, right? :P

I believe most of them do yes, they just have bad intentions :3
I'm fine with never smelling them at all, just like the stinky Swedish fish :3

Well explaining the relevant races would be good enough for me. Let's see if they make another season, would certainly be nice. The ending of season 1 made me really interested how Sora continues with his plan to take over the world :3

She's obviouisly obsessed with Climb but doesn't really care about his well-being. Also she seems to have struck a pact with Demiurge, though I'm not sure what he gets out of this :3
Wait, why would I like her more now? :o
What are the odds though that he would appear right before him? Also this feels like too much of an event to conclude in just one episode xD

Still better than Naruto vs Pain :3
No, I never said that? Also Reverse harem shows count as well since the MC most of the time is busty as well :P

2-3 each week, though this week it's only 1 for some reason :3
I see, i was only a bit disappointing that they didn't show how Ainz meets Lakyus and watches the resurrection happening. Seems way more important to me than the thoughts of Evileye or Climb doing anything :3
Because of the GIF you posted? :P

Tyrantarmy6 said:
You also played monmusu quest didn't you? At the same time, you can also "watch" VNs as they have an auto button :P
It's quite simple really. If you want to become a more complete being you have to embrace a larger view of anime, which of course means you can't skip out on watching the odd show of one of the most common genres in anime :P

So you think politicians have any understanding about IT at all? :3
Which reminds me I had some "Gebratene Bachforelle" when I was in winterberg. Do you like food like that? :3


By the end of volume 7 he's conquered 3 more races and is about to get himself another (if this were to end up getting him the entire race that is) :3

Well, what do you think Demiurge is trying to do in the larger scheme of things, and how could her cooperation help with that? :3
Because of her plans with climb? I mean, you don't like climb right? xD
He did say he jumped down in the middle of the trouble when he was flying over right? And remember who called him there in the first place :3
In the LN the upcoming event lasted quite long, but the anime is probably just gonna rush through it just like they rushed through basically everything else this arc xD

Which is in turn still better than edo tensei zabuza vs kakashi :3
Oh? And how would you know about such a thing I wonder? :P

Why? xD
Which is something they did show in the LN of course :3
That gif was just because I was talking about the weekly anime I had watched :P

Ardanaz said:
I'm so fed up with being sick...

Gator said:
And I can add MonMusu or VNs to my animelist? Your arguments are getting weaker >:3
So after watching DxD, MonMusu, Hyakka Ryouran and To Love-Ru you felt like your view of ecchi anime still was not large enough and you had to watch Okusama as well? Suuuuuuure ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

At least I haven't heard of someone who actually has some IT competence. Though if our leader already tells us that it's new to us all, I guess I'm not surprised xD
Normally I'm not much into fish, but that one seems similar to "Steckerlfisch" from Bavaria which I enjoy eating from time to time so I guess I would eat that as well :3


Nice, after watching the movie I feel like the Flügel and their "god" will be the last race for him to conquer before he challenges the current god himself :3 (I always forget his name, like Teb or something?)

Tbh I have no idea what he's planning, I thought they just wanted to take revenge on those Eight Fingers but now they're also abducting some of their leaders it seems. Not sure if 20 minutes will be enough to reveal his plan and make it understandable for me ^^
I don't like Renner either, though I also don't dislike them. They just don't seem that interesting to me :3
Who called him there? Uhm... Did they mention that? xD
Yeah this should really have been a 24 episodes season... Damnit Madhouse T_T

I don't even remember that fight which is probably saying enough ^^
That's a weak attempt of making it seem like I watch those shows when there are images from all kinds of anime all over the internet :P

Maybe because Friday is a free day and a lot of people are on vacation anyway ^^
Yeah someone talked about that in the episode discussion, odd that they would cut that part out after Ainz even talked about waiting for her :3
Is this a new trend in anime btw that the cutest characters have the weirdest fetishes recently? :3

Gator said:

Doesn't surprise me >_<
What are you doing all day? :o

Tyrantarmy6 said:
No, but I'm talking about what you watch/play, not what you add to MAL. Besides, if you want to keep a list of what VNs you played you can just create a vndb account :P
As long as I don't dislike a genre in general I don't see a problem with watching the occasional show in its genre that seems like it could potentially have fun characters and/or plot :3
Besides, I've also watched stuff like school days and boku no pico so it's not like I only watch things because I like them either :P

Yeah, thought so xD
That fish looks meaner though :3

The Flügel and their god? Did you forget that their god is dead? :3
His name is Tet :3

If they fail too badly I guess I can always explain to you afterwards :3
But you do like gazef? :3
Yeah, they kinda did xD
I guess doing 3 anime at once was too much for them :3

Yeah, and it's probably best you don't remember that abomination xD
Which still means you need to have looked those pictures up :P

Ah right, I figured you'd have a day off on friday :3
Yeah, and the way they did it almost made it seem like he never even met here to begin with :3
Got a problem with it? xD

Ardanaz said:
I sleep until like 9-10 am and go to bed at about 10-11pm. The rest I usually just sit on the chair watching youtube/anime while drinking tea and snuggling up in the blankets ;__;

Gator said:
You're steering away from the topic on purporse here :P
So Okusama looked to you like it had interesting plot? xD
Those examples don't work since School Days is pretty unique in itself and I doubt you watched more Yaoi than Boku no Pico >:3

Meaner? How does it look meaner? :3

Didn't he appear in the movie? Or did I confuse something again? :3
Ah right, I only remember it starting with T and being 3 letters long xD

Sounds like you'll have to explain it in a week then since I'm sure they won't have enough time to give enough info ^^
He's not bad at least, but also not very interesting :3
Uuuuh was it Renner? xD
Oh that slice of life show is also made by Madhouse, didn't know :3

I rewatched it a bit on YT just now out of curiosity, there hardly was any animation, was there? xD
If by "have looked up" mean I typed "breasts animated" into a booru search engine, then yes :P

Of course, also we are "not allowed" to eat meat. And while I'm not very religious, not eating meat for one day is an easy challenge ^^
At least the resurrection also got "off-screened" in the LN so they adapted that correctly I guess ^^;
Not really, it's just that the art and what's being said doesn't fit at all xD

Ardanaz said:

I sleep until like 9-10 am and go to bed at about 10-11pm. The rest I usually just sit on the chair watching youtube/anime while drinking tea and snuggling up in the blankets ;__;

Tyrantarmy6 said:
I'm not :P
Of course. You know how rare it is for the 2 main characters in a romance anime to actually get together so the description was pretty interesting :3
Unique as in uniquely bad. And of course I didn't watch more yaoi after that, but that's not the point :P

It has a larger mouth :3

His voice did indeed appear in the movie, but it was stated by jibril in the first season that her master is already dead which happened at the end of the movie though it wasn't even mentioned :3
You don't care about him do you? xD

Let's hope I won't have to, but I don't like my chances either :3
Close, but not quite. He was called by Marquis Elias Brandt Dale Raeven who was instructed to call on him by Renner who told him to because of Demiurge's plan :3
Just to make sure, what show are you talking about here? :3

Indeed, and whenever they showed haku they got his character design wrong and they also got the flashback wrong xD
Never heard of that search engine :P

Ah right, in germany those kinds of customs are actually practiced :3
Not in that way though :3
Well, that girl tries to conquer all the girls in the school like some kind of VN and has succeeded with everyone but her sensei who was drunk in that pic :3

Sazerlim said:
Wtf was that boobs scene necessary?
Maybe it is for fan service.

Gator said:
It's not really that rare, is it? Also there would've been other options with less ecchi available :3
Then it's not suitable as an example since it's the only yaoi you watched so there was no way you could've known if you like it :P

It should be a trout as well though, maybe just another species :3

So he got killed by the counterattack from the machines? That would make him not much of a god tbh :3
Oh no I do, but I just can't remember his name if my life depends on it xD

I certainly hope that they explain everything in the last episode, but 20 minutes? Seems impossible :3
Ah right, now I remember that it was that Raven guy. Pretty much the same thing then, so Demiurge basically used Ainz? xD
Is there more than one SoL show made by Madhouse this season? :3
https://myanimelist.net/anime/35839/Sora_yori_mo_Tooi_Basho

Ah right, Haku was a guy... I suppressed that knowledge xD
Gelbooru? Danbooru? Never heard of those? :3

Guess Germany is overall more religious than the Netherlands? :3
You mean in a way they got actually mentioned again afterwards? xD
I see. Still seems like yuri gets more and shows with a lilght touch of it :3

Gator said:
It surely is for fanservice. Is that Slow Start? :3

Tyrantarmy6 said:
I has returned~ :3

It is super rare :3
How was I supposed to know when it started airing that it was going to be that ecchi? :P
In that case I could also have just dropped it as it's 3 separate episodes each with a different entry on mal :P

Since it's also got a different name I'd say it's a different species yes :3

He used about 80% of his power for the heaven's strike, none of the flügel were able to help him, and he fought over 500 ex-machina at once (don't remember what the exact number of remaining ex-machina was that reached him of the 9177 who went to kill him) which are capable of reproducing any attack they experience, even the flügel's teleportation. None returned :3


That's why I don't like the odds :3
Nah, he needs Ainz to execute his plan, and he believes that Ainz himself knows all about the plan and waaaay beyond that yet xD
Just wanted to make sure that's the one you were talking about. Cardcaptor Sakura could've been a SoL :3

Aaah those... do they qualify as search engine? Never used them so I don't know :3

Pretty much yeah :3
Something like that xD
You don't like to see yuri? :3


Nope, only the pics I posted are from slow start :3

Gator said:
Okaeri~ :3

Come one... do you even read tags? :P
I don't get what you wanna tell me with that, so what if you dropped it? O_O

To me a Forelle is a Forelle, at least I can't taste a difference :3

Seems like he had a pretty bad plan then, shouldn't he have known that those machines can reproduce his attacks and even counter them? :3

So basically he puts too much trust into Ainz who really has no idea what Demiurge is planning? xD
At least it's not in the tags for Cardcaptor Sakura, not like I would watch that :3

I think that's their only purporse, at least Gelbooru greets me with pretty much only a search textfield on is main page :3

If only that big woman (Gargan?) had not just mindlessly attacked there would have not been a problem ^^
I'm not especially fond of it, but it doesn't bother me either :3

Now I wonder what that GIF is from then? Gotta ask Mamster :o
Also Slow Start goes onto my list :>