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Jun 8, 2017 7:14 AM
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This episode introduced Elza and her surrounding which is the Venus Ark, in more depth. And a one-time appearance Idol Alice to complement the series.

*The S4 introducing Elza in their talk show. Ako was funny as always.

Elza is a bit harsh. Anyway luckily the natural "magic" of Yume saved Alice and made her shine again, in the end enough to catch Elza's attention. According the Elza, seems like Yume's wing will not be far:)

valvravetruthJun 8, 2017 7:23 AM
Jun 8, 2017 7:45 AM
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Curious if next episode we get a scene of Rola telling Subaru to keep away from her Yume.
Jun 10, 2017 10:11 PM
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next episode, shipping war will hard.
Jun 12, 2017 10:51 AM
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This episode was some good character development for Elza. All we had seen so far was her being perfect and beating everyone. But now they show she sleeps in every day, and she doesn't like vegetables. She also admitted to being wrong about Alice. I definitely like Elza more now.
Jun 12, 2017 12:11 PM
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Nop, I still don't like Elza... In the beginning, I was happy that there is a character that is honest and criticizes others. But imho, Elza is way too mean. Tearing applications in pieces without reading them is just... And she didn't even give Alice any tips or criticism and throw her out instead. I mean, there is a difference between criticizing/being honest and hurting others. I really hope, she will change at least a little, little bit...
But I'm looking forward to the next episode!
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Jun 12, 2017 1:28 PM
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I really like how every other episode they are revealing some stuff about Rei. I didnt really think much of her at first but now I am really curious and can't wait for her to debut. Yume was the best in this episode as always, I am glad she could help out Alice and made her feel better, maybe we will even see her again at some point, that would be awesome. I want to see Elza's face then. Speaking of Elza, I can't say I like her methods but she is pretty interesting and very different from everyone else so far, so thats cool!
Jun 12, 2017 1:47 PM
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This episode just made me despise Elza for how she treats all the people who look up to her. Although, it is also quite realistic by real life standards too, in the idol world. And then they ended up praising her instead. Great.

If Elza sleeps in every day and just orders people around it makes me question how she's such a "perfect" idol on her own. She did put *some* work in, right? She would go up to Mizuki and tell her she sucks. And Mizuki would wreck her.
Jun 12, 2017 3:52 PM
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Loved that Popeye reference with triplets :) Am i the only one who wants to punch Kirara? She is my least favorite character in seres and i hope someone will put such performance it will shut her down.
Jun 12, 2017 6:09 PM
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kamil88 said:
Loved that Popeye reference with triplets :) Am i the only one who wants to punch Kirara? She is my least favorite character in seres and i hope someone will put such performance it will shut her down.


You're not alone. Kirara is a far worse moeshit compared to that wildcat Ako. Rather than punching her, Kirara is better be a sacrificial lamb. Out of all characters in Venus Ark that have showed up, Rei is so far the only one who I'm relatively okay with. Although I bet she won't be able to hide her true identity forever because there are lots of obvious hints floating around already.

Elza? Yeah, I'm starting to dislike her for her harsh methods. But, still, what's a Queen to a God? As much as I dislike Elza, I still hate Seira even more.

Also, Alice is apparently got thrust into a wrong universe by BNP and given a complete makeover in terms of hairstyle, eye color, and skin tone. If you saw her last name, you'll understand what I mean.
HAVOCprojectsJun 12, 2017 8:14 PM
"All life begins with Nu and ends with Nu."

However, in Gundam, all life begins with Nu and ends with Hi-Nu. While in KanColle, all life begins with Nu and ends with Kinu.
Jun 12, 2017 6:18 PM

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I liked the insight we got into both Rei and Elza. We learned more about Rei's past activities and we got to know some more about Elza's food preferences among other things.
Yume is shaping up to be more than Elza imagined, reviving a glimmer in an idol she was certain was finished. Glad Elza acknowledges Yume's potential and her eventual Star Premium Rare Coord.

Next ep Subaru x Yume might develop, and did I see a bit of hinting for Ako and Kanata?
Laura better tell Subaru to back off 0_0

DarkYazawa said:
This episode was some good character development for Elza. All we had seen so far was her being perfect and beating everyone. But now they show she sleeps in every day, and she doesn't like vegetables. She also admitted to being wrong about Alice. I definitely like Elza more now.
Glad I'm not the only one who feels that way :)
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Jun 12, 2017 7:54 PM
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Elza is so harsh, just randomly (well not really there was some reason behind it) expelling Alice but is starting to appreciate Yume a little more. I hope we see more of Alice sometime in the future. Also really hyped for the next ep cos they're bringing back M4 :D
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Jun 12, 2017 7:57 PM
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adrian_and_sela said:

If Elza sleeps in every day and just orders people around it makes me question how she's such a "perfect" idol on her own. She did put *some* work in, right? She would go up to Mizuki and tell her she sucks. And Mizuki would wreck her.


I would actually like to see that happen XD
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Jun 18, 2017 8:47 PM

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Lime1 said:
adrian_and_sela said:

If Elza sleeps in every day and just orders people around it makes me question how she's such a "perfect" idol on her own. She did put *some* work in, right? She would go up to Mizuki and tell her she sucks. And Mizuki would wreck her.


I would actually like to see that happen XD


Going to get some popcorn ready :)
Aug 26, 2017 7:02 AM
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This episode made me dislike Elza so much. Felt bad for Alice at the end, how Elza kicks her off the Ark and then coldly tells her good bye. Like you want people to admire you yet you're being cold to your very own people.
And Kirara is pretty annoying too, at least Ako has a likable personality compared to Kirara.

For some reason I thought Alice was Mahiru's sister or so, they looked pretty similar.


Mar 11, 2018 5:57 AM

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They're doing a really good job at making Elza an antagonist imo,she's mean and harsh at times and that's what actually makes me like her,she's so interesting to watch.

So much more interesting than the DreAca girls in OG S2 who while not necessarily "antagonists" felt more like they were just side characters that forced their way into the show and ruined it to a degree.
Apr 10, 2018 6:44 AM

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damn Elza is freaking harsh. However I did like that she was proven wrong in this ep.

SO what, are they gonna pay for that poor idol's air fare or something...
"Fortress Maximus has come himself. Okay! Then I shall get Fortress Maximus to fight me, huh huh huh!"

Nov 12, 2018 1:18 PM

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Really nice episode, we saw a lot of sides from Elza, her more human part with her dislike for vegetables, her harsh treatment towards who she deems not worthy while also being the right amount for the ones she believes that have the strength (and that makes them appreciate her a lot because they know that when they did well, Elza will show her approval and keep pushing them forward), and while she might seem sure about her way to be, Yume proved her wrong this episode with Alice recovering her spark due to her influence even if Elza thought she was done for.
Jul 23, 2020 6:31 PM

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I want alice to join 4 stars and become really successful just to get revenge on Elza, that bi(eat your veggies)
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Mar 3, 2024 7:43 AM

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Shit was absolutely snobbish and perfectly entitled as so called perfect huh. That's not magic that were Yume using, it was called talk no jutsu. Although it was true that an idol that lost the glimmer would be doomed over time, there must be a better way to push her. Elza would get wrecked by Mizuki for sure if she met her lmao. I really want there is at least one person that are absolutely despise her or really not agree with her way to make a more interesting storyline at all.

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