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Why do popular anime like naruto, drop in quality after a certain amount of episodes?

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Jan 2, 2018 4:53 PM
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Is funding the problem? Or is it time? Maybe both? Id much rather have one episode every two weeks if the quality of anime like Naruto Shippuden could be better.

taking naruto shippuden again for an example, if I were to take all episodes up to the pain fight, and rate them all together, id say they are pretty good. But if i were to rate all episodes after that, Id have to say its one of the worst anime iv ever seen, despite having huge high peaks in quality like madaras fight scenes.

Jan 2, 2018 4:56 PM
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I think it's simply that the creators lose their passion after a while, so much so that they forget what made their series great in the beginning.
Jan 2, 2018 5:04 PM
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It depends on how well the show is doing at that particular time frame. If it is not doing well then less budget and less animation resources will be put in. Sometimes, the studio just as too many shows and less resources. i.e Tight Schedule.
Jan 2, 2018 5:27 PM
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Because the creators are idiots that make adaptations while the source is still a work in progress and eventually the anime catches up and has no more material to adapt, messing with whatever schedule and budget they had, causing frequent lame filler arcs, and excessive recapping/flashbacking to be created in order to stretch out events into more episodes. And so it goes until the anime eventually self-destructs.
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Jan 2, 2018 5:41 PM
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In case of both Bleach and Naruto, the reasons I see are:

1. The writing started sucking
2. The suits milking too hard.

In contrast, HxH is a long-running show but with continuously good writing, and the quality to reflect it.
Jan 2, 2018 5:43 PM
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I've actually done research about this. Henry Thurlow, who worked for studio pierrot said its because they dont have to work hard since ppl watch naruto regardless, and plus deadlines are too short given how they are very understaffed
Jan 2, 2018 7:25 PM
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Cause it's not a reference to a manga of Hirohiko Araki.



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Jan 2, 2018 8:17 PM
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Probably because they run out of ideas on how to make a series interesting, and they just want to drag the series as long as possible even though there's nothing much left.
Jan 2, 2018 8:23 PM
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I finished Naruto Shippuden, even the fillers. Was it worth watching? Remove the garbage fillers and the garbage light novel adaptation episodes, then the series would be better off decent.
Jan 2, 2018 9:55 PM

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pgmhecateii said:
2) Naruto is like everyone's first anime, so the creators decided that they could relax a little and not put in as much effort
Quite the contrary, the mangaka got forced to milk the show, I'm pretty sure somewhere down the line, it was meant to stop at some point. Like how Dragonball's end goal was supposed to be Namek arc, but it booked and Toriyama was forced to milked DB dry.



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Jan 2, 2018 10:01 PM
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It really does depend on the series.

One piece, Gintama, Detective Conan are very long running, yet they haven't lost steam. The content is just as good if not better than when it started.

Other series were forced to be milked dry. Some were forced to end quickly, Toriko being a good example, nonetheless, Toriko ended in a good way.
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It really does depend on the series.

One piece, Gintama, Detective Conan are very long running, yet they haven't lost steam. The content is just as good if not better than when it started.

Other series were forced to be milked dry. Some were forced to end quickly, Toriko being a good example, nonetheless, Toriko ended in a good way.
Jan 2, 2018 10:12 PM

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>Nagging over the sheer hype of MEDIOCRITY..

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Jan 2, 2018 10:19 PM

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Naruto is actually a great shounen show if it wasn't for the fillers and insane plot-armors some of the characters had *cough Sasuke cough*.
Jan 2, 2018 10:46 PM

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nukerxero123 said:


One piece, Gintama, Detective Conan are very long running, yet they haven't lost steam. The content is just as good if not better than when it started.


You genuinely didn't think One Piece had some REALLY dodgy arcs?
Jan 2, 2018 10:54 PM

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People always talk about how either they grew out of their first few (usually action shounen) anime or they got worse over time. Most the time people end it there and conclude they "used to love these anime but not so much anymore" (which is a convenient excuse to be fair).

True, there are instances specifically where it does happen, often it's when a series is dragged out longer to be milked or it stems from the problems adapting it into an anime. However long running series always had has its highs and lows. Some intense emotional rides often spread mostly within extended periods of pretty unremarkable (and sometime even outright bad) arcs/stories. It has always been the case from all the long running action shounen I've watched, despite how much people seem to praise them to the skies (whether it be the whole thing or the earlier parts), none of them are consistently great. Over time it sets some sort of formula for every arc, the moment you realise it your immersion is somewhat shattered from then on. It has overstayed its welcome and you can't quite get into it anymore.

As such I never understood why people seem to think <insert long running shounen anime here> got worse, because it has always been the same in my opinion. For me, why they seem worse is because it has merely overstayed its welcome, fail to introduce enough new formulas for newer arcs and that "oh this again..." moment breaks my immersion.

Then again, of all the long running action shounen, I've only watched Naruto, One Piece and Fairy Tail. I'm sure someone here will be kind enough to tell me "those are the shit ones, you've never watched <insert other long running action shonen here>! You're missing out!" or something.
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OatGoblin said:
nukerxero123 said:


One piece, Gintama, Detective Conan are very long running, yet they haven't lost steam. The content is just as good if not better than when it started.


You genuinely didn't think One Piece had some REALLY dodgy arcs?
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nukerxero123 said:


One piece, Gintama, Detective Conan are very long running, yet they haven't lost steam. The content is just as good if not better than when it started.


You genuinely didn't think One Piece had some REALLY dodgy arcs?


Oh yeah Skypeia was pretty meh, and Punk hazard a bit too. But as a whole its pretty good.
Jan 2, 2018 11:14 PM
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Because no good story should go on for 200 episodes. It is all fluff and filler. Everything in between is unnecessary.
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it is the fillers what ruins the anime. if the anime catches up to the manga i think it is better to stop temporary than producing a shity fillers (detective conan has 886 episodes half of them are fillers). skip fillers if you want to enjoy the show.
Jan 2, 2018 11:49 PM
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Others answered pretty well. The writers lose their passion after a while, drawing manga is a stressful work. They have tight schedule, deadline and whatnot which results in the authors unable to write decent stories and when a show gets very popular, they continue it much further than the story length they planned initially. The unplanned stuff is the point where the show goes downhill.
The Hunter x Hunter guy takes long hiatuses and only bring like 10 chapters a year so he doesn't count, his art is still below average but his story is well refined because he doesn't get as much stress as others.
Jan 2, 2018 11:56 PM
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nukerxero123 said:

One piece, Gintama, Detective Conan are very long running, yet they haven't lost steam. The content is just as good if not better than when it started.

Dunno. I like Conan, but I only watch it casually. The individual stories are fine and sometimes pretty interesting.
What bothers me is this "I can't tell her who I am" since like 900 episodes. Srsly, I have much patience und sympathy for different character problems, but he goes overboard. :'D
Jan 3, 2018 4:50 AM

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Do they really tho? Even if they didn't people would lose interest and change their minds about them after a while just because they have short attention spans and changing preferences and shows that last years and years give people plenty of opportunity to change their mind about them, to develop a different taste or just lose interest because something new and more hype came along.

So yeah, that these things happen is inevitable because that's how people work. But that something has to decline is not a given and arguably not the case in a lot of longer stories, it's more like an up and down fluctuation of some arcs being better and others being worse but very rarely do I see something really just straight-up and continuously declining. It's just that the vast majority of people never have the introspective view that would ask whether THEY may have changed their preferences and therefore 'grew out' of that kind of show. They never look inside for answers to the question 'what changed?'.
If something changes in their perception, it gets blamed and shit on loudly until they get bored of it. As long as they can avoid reflecting on themselves they'd happily bash the shit out of any previous favorite.
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Jan 3, 2018 5:52 AM

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@Maxa123 What quality are you talking about? Try to be more specific.

Is it about the story itself? That goes back to the source manga then.

Is it about the pace and fillers?
That's a common thing with adaptations of long running manga series, eventually the anime catches up to the manga, at that point the anime studio is forced to either slow down the page of the anime, to go on the same speed as the manga, or they have to insert lots of fillers to gain time, to let the manga progress ahead.
Putting the anime serie on hold until there is more source material wasn't an option for them, since it would remove the presence of the serie from the airing and it would damage their secondary businesses, merchandises, etc. Luckily series like Boku no Hero academia seems to have learned that, oor, they just don't have the funds for a continuous adaptation. Gintama also doesn't have a continuous adaptation, but that's more for lack of funds than wise planning.

The anime adaptation can never progress past the source material, unless you enter into a totally anime original parallel story. (like it happened with the first season of fullmetal alchemist)

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