Katsuo_ said: Welp at least we all know One Piece and HxH > Bleach and Naruto. Fairy Tail -> HxH -> Naruto -> One piece -> Bleach IMO |
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Takamura-sama said: Katsuo_ said: Welp at least we all know One Piece and HxH > Bleach and Naruto. Fairy Tail -> HxH -> Naruto -> One piece -> Bleach IMO I agree because Friendship is power bullshit trumps everything else |
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Takamura-sama said: -SP- said: Nope, Onodera all the way, not even a debate. Says the guy with Natsu as his profile pic. In my opinion Fairy tail is like cancer compared to either of those two. Fairy Tail is good lol. way better than NAruto and bleach combined x 1000 Watched the first season and it was all right, started watching the second and couldn't continue. There's only so much bullshit a single person can take in, and I've reached my limit watching Fairy Tail |
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Katsuo_ said: Welp at least we all know One Piece and HxH > Bleach and Naruto. HOW DARE YOU COMPARE ONE PIECE AND HXH TO BLEACH AND NARUTO? |
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Takamura-sama said: Katsuo_ said: Welp at least we all know One Piece and HxH > Bleach and Naruto. Fairy Tail -> HxH -> Naruto -> One piece -> Bleach IMO I've never seen FT so I can't judge, but I almost never hear good things about it. I dunno if I should start it. nymi said: HOW DARE YOU COMPARE ONE PIECE AND HXH TO BLEACH AND NARUTO? SORRY BUT I HAD TO SPEAK THE TRUTH |
Katsuo_Oct 29, 2017 5:31 AM
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ayeflied said: Ichigo needs to learn bankai. For everyone else it would take ten years. However, the guy with the hat conveniently knows of a way to learn it in a weekend, and he conviniently never told anyone about it before. why? because the main characther had never showed up until then! and so Ichigo learns bankai in a weekend for the very convinient reason that he is the main character. I remember that they try to add some kind of a drawback to it, like "if you use this method some shit might happen", but to Ichigo, it doesn't. Why? Because he is the main character. There are abuses of the mc privilege like that in every main arc of bleach, but i'm gonna go ahead and jump to my favorite one: The last getsuga tenshou deus ex machina. Ichigo is on his way to fight Aizen, he is with some guy i don't remember (his father?). The guy stops him and basically says: "Hey Ichigo, if you say the word 'last' before the names of your special attacks they come off super strong, so when you're fighting Aizen, instead of saying getsuga tenshou, just say last getsuga tenshou". And that's what Ichigo does. Again they try to add some lame drawback to it, which in this case was that Ichigo was gonna lose his powers. But guess what? he doesn't. Why? because he is the protagonist. I stopped watching at this point so i don't know if they come up with some bad excuse for ichigo not losing it, but even if they did, it's nothing but a bad excuse. Good Shounen anime avoid shortcuts for their mc's, bleach doesn't, bleach abuses them. It is time for to easily destroy all of this with Chapters. Cough This "Guy with a Hat" founded the Research and Development of Squad 12, 100 years ago. He also had another Genius Mayuri Kurotscuchi who was in prison JOIN him. You know that guy who developed a serum that slowed down time that heightened senses making a sword that stabbed him in a second feel like it was happening for 100 Years prior.....That Mayuri You're telling me that Kisuke the "Guy with the hat" knowing all of this was just "HELP THE MAIN CHARACTER GET BANKAI" when Kisuke didn't teach Ichigo Bankai....it was Yoruchi.... Kisuke's accomplishments
What more do you want? Oh....and guess what? Why didn't he tell anyone...even though he did tell people about the things he did..... He was banished from the Soul Society Even so he was the reason why the Soul Reapers could even go into the World of the Living because he was the one who created Gigai....without Kisuke Bleach wouldn't have even happened because he was the reason why Ichigo's mom could be saved in the 1st place before her and Isshin birthed him. To Solve your question this is how one can achieve Bankai and this is why Ichigo's process was faster.... As you can see...this is faster, but it's more dangerous and someone like Renji who achieved his Bankai THROUGH THIS...this is what happened Ichigo throughout Bleach never fully understood his Bankai's power because he never had time with his Bankai.... Literally for fucks sake it's why his Zanpakto deemed him UNWORTHY! Wanna know why though? Literally for the entire time...the HOLLOW was the Zanpakto and literally Ichigo's Quincy's power was holding it back and since Ichigo never understood or was aware of his own powers he couldn't control it....hmm sounds like Orihime and Sado? because from what I remember.....Their powers are wayyyyy different from regular soul reapers....and they couldn't even use it properly until they trained to....but people expect Orihime to be OP and Sado to be OP....I laugh at that looking at the circumstances. Orihime at the Fullbring actually improved her capabilities...as Ichigo lost his powers....I could easily show you a technique she did against Ginjo while Ichigo is trying to get his powers back training with Ginjo.. Looky here....and OH! You said ICHIGO DOESN'T LOSE HIS POWERS! OH THATS THE WORST YOU HAVE SAID HERE I have nothing else to say....Everything you have said I have addressed I have addressed. Literally what the hell were you watching? Ichigo did lose his powers...thats why the Fullbring arc happened in the 1st place and you want to know how he regained his powers back There is no way there is no way....No way.....I have literally gave you the manga panels to stop this bullshit |
ScorpiaraOct 29, 2017 6:53 AM
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| @Halpher Please post those manga panels inside spoilers. Like this |
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Paul said: You clearly need to set your priorities straight since the reason you hate one character is the same reason you like the other. The amount of nitpicking you're doing is basically that of a blind fanboy trying to justify his favorites by looking down and turning a blind eye to any kind of fact. Please tell me what is the reason why I like Orihime? Please tell me. Tell me why I hate Sakura and why I don't hate Orihime....please tell me. I would really love the response. |
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| @Erebus25 Explain how in Super Eyepatch's video how he states Bleach started to be pushed back in the cover, but yet at around the end of the Fullbring...BLEACH IS SEEMINGLY THE COVER!?  Funny how in HIS VIDEO! When he shows his ranking Bleach fell down the rankings...so tell me @Erebus25 how this correlates and supports Eyepatch Wolf's point? Infact I stated that the Front Page doesn't dictate your manga is the most popular. I also said being on the front page meant that you didn't get ranked because thats how the rankings work. If One Piece is on the cover then it most likely didn't get ranked that week. Also I said that each ranking is based off 7 issues ago meaning it's at minimum 7 WEEKS AGO! If you research this as it's hard to find the links and I tell you I looked deep to understand how Shonen Jump's ratings worked you would find out that what Super Eyepatch Wolf said is bullshit. I also told you that it's all based on the Japanese Region because Weekly Shonen Jump is literally distributed in Japanese way before English. I fucking laugh how people who use illegal manga streaming sites to read act like they have an effect on a ranking in which you have to buy it to even rank it. I thought Anime & Manga fans were broke and thats why we use Illegal Streaming Sites. I fucking laugh at how extremely stupid this is and how everyone believed what that guy said because it repeats the same bullshit that everyone said about Bleach not considering the ranking is based off their opinion. It's arrogant and conceited. Bleach to this day is still something relevant as literally look at the recent death battle and look at videos talking Espada vs Akatsuki look at Ichigo vs Ginjo over 1 M views in a Day Everyone ignores and rips on Bleach for stupid reasons and thats why I'm here to go against it. I'm not a huge fan of Bleach to act like it's an amazing series. I can keep going as I didn't even get on Naruto yet because everyone ignores what I said about Naruto and only just say "Bleach is worse" even though everything I said about Naruto is actually not the same issues others pointed out. |
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| Both are horrible, but while I've only ever seen a few episodes of each, I found Bleach to be extremely boring. Naruto is bad, but at least it's not as boring as Bleach, so I guess that's something. |
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Nagato is one of the characters from Naruto that I do not hate. His plan wasn't actually either garbage or just non-existent. Too bad he died for a naive, inexperienced Blonde haired idiot. |
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Seiya said: Both are horrible, but while I've only ever seen a few episodes of each, I found Bleach to be extremely boring. Naruto is bad, but at least it's not as boring as Bleach, so I guess that's something. Which episodes did you watch from both? The beginning? |
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Zeruk said: Halpher said: He is part of naruto story, and bleach don't have anything on this level. So yeah, I believe naruto is betterNagato is one of the characters from Naruto that I do not hate. His plan wasn't actually either garbage or just non-existent. Too bad he died for a naive, inexperienced Blonde haired idiot. LMAO! On his level? Only Mereum from Hunter X Hunter is something no series can top for me as of from what I've seen, but Nagato? Nagato isn't crap to me, but he isn't this amazing villain. There are many villains like him out there. Nagato's backstory was boring and generic as literally the guy was supposed to be this villain who had this righteous intention. I've seen it happen before, but he stood out in a series full of characters who literally hate on everyone (Deidera) and a guy who started a war over a 13-Year Old Girl.. Have you even seen Aizen? Have you seen Byakuya? Aizen was a cunning, confident villain who trolled the fuck out of everyone. Aizen's dialogue is fucking hilarious. Byakuya's internal conflict |
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Halpher said: Seiya said: Both are horrible, but while I've only ever seen a few episodes of each, I found Bleach to be extremely boring. Naruto is bad, but at least it's not as boring as Bleach, so I guess that's something. Which episodes did you watch from both? The beginning? I can't remember, as it was too long ago, but Bleach just seemed to be the less interesting of the two. |
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Halpher said: Paul said: You clearly need to set your priorities straight since the reason you hate one character is the same reason you like the other. The amount of nitpicking you're doing is basically that of a blind fanboy trying to justify his favorites by looking down and turning a blind eye to any kind of fact. Please tell me what is the reason why I like Orihime? Please tell me. Tell me why I hate Sakura and why I don't hate Orihime....please tell me. I would really love the response. Wtf are you even asking? You've already stated your reasons and others have already stated those reasons are the same for each other. Do you even read your own posts? This is what I mean by turning a blind eye to anything. |
Paul said: Halpher said: Please tell me what is the reason why I like Orihime? Please tell me. Tell me why I hate Sakura and why I don't hate Orihime....please tell me. I would really love the response. Wtf are you even asking? You've already stated your reasons and others have already stated those reasons are the same for each other. Do you even read your own posts? This is what I mean by turning a blind eye to anything. No I want you to tell me as you're stating that I like Orihime for the same reasons I hate Sakura Please tell me and point out the hypocrisy....I know what I said and thats why I don't take your reply legitimately because I never liked Orihime for the same reasons I hate Sakura The question is... DO you even read my post? |
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Weirdo47 said: I'll just watch both and see for myself Thank you. Make your own conclusion and whether you like one or the other is fine by me. |
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0v33t1 said: As a huge Bleach fan, I can't stand this discussion. Both sides are full of shit. Like here: ayeflied said: Again they try to add some lame drawback to it, which in this case was that Ichigo was gonna lose his powers. But guess what? he doesn't. Why? because he is the protagonist. I stopped watching at this point so i don't know if they come up with some bad excuse for ichigo not losing it, but even if they did, it's nothing but a bad excuse. At this point you're just making shit up. If you are implying so...how is my side full of shit? |
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Seiya said: I can't remember, as it was too long ago, but Bleach just seemed to be the less interesting of the two. Okay, cool. It didn't interest you and I can respect that. |
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Halpher said: Paul said: Wtf are you even asking? You've already stated your reasons and others have already stated those reasons are the same for each other. Do you even read your own posts? This is what I mean by turning a blind eye to anything. No I want you to tell me as you're stating that I like Orihime for the same reasons I hate Sakura Please tell me and point out the hypocrisy....I know what I said and thats why I don't take your reply legitimately because I never liked Orihime for the same reasons I hate Sakura The question is... DO you even read my post? I'm not gonna go and quote every single post you've made about her since literally all of them are contradictions that apply to Sakura. You basically do nothing but convolute your posts with meaningless details. |
Paul said: Halpher said: No I want you to tell me as you're stating that I like Orihime for the same reasons I hate Sakura Please tell me and point out the hypocrisy....I know what I said and thats why I don't take your reply legitimately because I never liked Orihime for the same reasons I hate Sakura The question is... DO you even read my post? I'm not gonna go and quote every single post you've made about her since literally all of them are contradictions that apply to Sakura. You basically do nothing but convolute your posts with meaningless details. So you just expect me to care about your post just because you say it? I'm asking you to show me contradictions, but all you say is "Uhhh, there are contradictions" like that proves a contradiction. |
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Halpher said: Paul said: I'm not gonna go and quote every single post you've made about her since literally all of them are contradictions that apply to Sakura. You basically do nothing but convolute your posts with meaningless details. So you just expect me to care about your post just because you say it? I'm asking you to show me contradictions, but all you say is "Uhhh, there are contradictions" like that proves a contradiction. You care enough to keep responding to me specifically, so yes. No one wants to go reread your walls of text, 1 time is enough. I'd suggest you just go back to each page, CTRL+F "Orihime" and look at everything you posted about her and think twice about how pretty much all of it applies to Sakura too, yet you choose to believe they're different because of tiny little details that make little to no difference. |
Halpher said: Introduction Gotei 13 > Hidden Leaf & Hidden Sand I say this with confidence. The Leaf and Sand are the 2 most shown villages in the series and I can't judge every other village as not much was explored despite it being fucking stupid. The Leaf's 3rd Hokage is the WORST HOKAGE OF ALL TIME and the 5th is the SECOND WORST HOKAGE! Saurtobi Hiruzen allowed for Danzo to do so much fuckery it's not even funny. Infact Sarutobi allowed Orochimaru to successfully infiltrate the village and attack it. Sarutobi was the reason that Neji's father died.....Another ninja from the Cloud village attacked the Hyugas and they killed him and the Cloud got mad and wanted the Leaf to send a ninja to them so they can kill them...obviously you tell the Cloud to go f-themselves? Oh wait....... The Uchiha Massacre didn't have to happen if only the 3rd Hokage didn't allow Danzo to have power. Itachi and Shisui one of them wanted to put them under a Genjustu for a while. Danzo took Shisui's fucking eye. The 5th Hokage Tsunade for some reason Is a Narutard She sends NARUTO UZUMAKI TO THE AKATSUKI! because "NARUTO CAN'T LOSE" and when the village elders try to compromise with Tsunade to keep Naruto in the village instead of Tsunade compromising with them to have Naruto get training she tells them to have Naruto be sent on Missions and THESE MISSIONS ARE HIM GOING TO THE FUCKING AKATSUKI that he will be safer traveling in 4-Man Squads where the Akatsuki can't find him, but WHY SAY THAT WHEN NARUTO'S MISSIONS HAVE ALWAYS INVOLVED THE AKATSUKI YOU FUCKING IDIOT! It would be better to have in the village for so many reasons. If you bring up Itachi and Pain then do you understand how incompetent the Leaf is? Literally Ninjas can come in undetected or detected and the Leaf is incompetent to do anything. Naruto only learned Sage Mode....he still had 2 Justu....I swear the Leaf is weak, but the SAND IS EVEN WORSE! Tsunade is a stupid bitch who sends Genin to fight Dangerous Ninja to rescue Sasuke. The Leaf Village have weak ass ninjas to where Genin are more competent than the Jonin. First of all, really like the post and the discussion, I enjoyed both of this animes and just wanted to say, can we talk the fact that Aizen hide between the most powerfulls captains and never anyone suspected him? Hahaha peace bro, just want to said that (Also if someone did and I dont remember is because I have a looong time whitout seen Bleach, in fact this post made me want to see it again). |
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Zeruk said: Halpher said: Aizen was a generic aimless villain LMAO! On his level? Only Mereum from Hunter X Hunter is something no series can top for me as of from what I've seen, but Nagato? Nagato isn't crap to me, but he isn't this amazing villain. There are many villains like him out there. Nagato's backstory was boring and generic as literally the guy was supposed to be this villain who had this righteous intention. I've seen it happen before, but he stood out in a series full of characters who literally hate on everyone (Deidera) and a guy who started a war over a 13-Year Old Girl.. Have you even seen Aizen? Have you seen Byakuya? Aizen was a cunning, confident villain who trolled the fuck out of everyone. Aizen's dialogue is fucking hilarious. Byakuya's internal conflict Byakuya couldn't even get his mind straight on what he had to do If either edgelords can compare themselves to Nagato, back up with a video, or don't bother replying Aizen wanted to get to the Soul King......what are you talking about? He was going to kill Yamamoto for a reason (I'm tired right now) I ask myself when people who defend Naruto defend it They always bring up goals like Goals = Character It does not dictate character it never does The Character dictates character Characterization Aizen's actions through Bleach were entertaining Dude was smart, calm and cunning. Aizen unlike Danzo was actually planted. Actually in Naruto the Chidori was never stated to be a Chakra Nature justu as Chakra Natures never existed in Part 1 The kage Orochimaru killed was a scrub in Part 1 and that Scrub was Gaara's dad Sand ninjas are Jonin yet all get destroyed by Asuma Motherfuckers can't even summon a snake by themselves Why is Tsunade hokage? Ask yourself....she didn't become Hokage based on her own motivation to lead the village, but because she was asked and people made it a big deal plus the Leaf literally had no choice to beg her The leaf is shit But let focus on a character having a goal like what did the other villages want? I have no idea I literally have no idea |
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Paul said: Halpher said: So you just expect me to care about your post just because you say it? I'm asking you to show me contradictions, but all you say is "Uhhh, there are contradictions" like that proves a contradiction. You care enough to keep responding to me specifically, so yes. No one wants to go reread your walls of text, 1 time is enough. I'd suggest you just go back to each page, CTRL+F "Orihime" and look at everything you posted about her and think twice about how pretty much all of it applies to Sakura too, yet you choose to believe they're different because of tiny little details that make little to no difference. Your starting sentence is stupid. I'm not going to consider anything you said here. You haven't shown to me anything and failed to persuade me. Just leave. |
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Halpher said: @Erebus25 Explain how in Super Eyepatch's video how he states Bleach started to be pushed back in the cover, but yet at around the end of the Fullbring...BLEACH IS SEEMINGLY THE COVER!? Funny how in HIS VIDEO! When he shows his ranking Bleach fell down the rankings...so tell me @Erebus25 how this correlates and supports Eyepatch Wolf's point? Infact I stated that the Front Page doesn't dictate your manga is the most popular. I also said being on the front page meant that you didn't get ranked because thats how the rankings work. If One Piece is on the cover then it most likely didn't get ranked that week. Also I said that each ranking is based off 7 issues ago meaning it's at minimum 7 WEEKS AGO! If you research this as it's hard to find the links and I tell you I looked deep to understand how Shonen Jump's ratings worked you would find out that what Super Eyepatch Wolf said is bullshit. I also told you that it's all based on the Japanese Region because Weekly Shonen Jump is literally distributed in Japanese way before English. I fucking laugh how people who use illegal manga streaming sites to read act like they have an effect on a ranking in which you have to buy it to even rank it. I thought Anime & Manga fans were broke and thats why we use Illegal Streaming Sites. I fucking laugh at how extremely stupid this is and how everyone believed what that guy said because it repeats the same bullshit that everyone said about Bleach not considering the ranking is based off their opinion. It's arrogant and conceited. Bleach to this day is still something relevant as literally look at the recent death battle and look at videos talking Espada vs Akatsuki look at Ichigo vs Ginjo over 1 M views in a Day Everyone ignores and rips on Bleach for stupid reasons and thats why I'm here to go against it. I'm not a huge fan of Bleach to act like it's an amazing series. I can keep going as I didn't even get on Naruto yet because everyone ignores what I said about Naruto and only just say "Bleach is worse" even though everything I said about Naruto is actually not the same issues others pointed out. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/weekly-shonen-jump/4050-43519/?page=7 The one you posted is issue #2134, now look at #2151 and where Ichigo is, that was the SEW's point. "I also told you that it's all based on the Japanese Region because Weekly Shonen Jump is literally distributed in Japanese way before English." And I told you it's Japan's popularity that matter because it decides whether the anime/manga gets canceled. Especially around the time when Bleach aired and popularity in the West meant nothing. "I fucking laugh at how extremely stupid this is and how everyone believed what that guy said because it repeats the same bullshit that everyone said about Bleach not considering the ranking is based off their opinion." Of course ranking is based on opinion, on what else it would be. Unless you wanna say the numbers he used are incorrect I don't understand you point. Link me videos you wanna talk about, I'm not going to search for them. And once again, you haven't even started to talk about anything he said about quality of the manga deteriorating because that is obvious from the story, from the manga frames and consequently from the rankings. |
| I don't know what to say. One thing for sure, none of Bleach main cast is annoying, some of them are interesting. I couldn't stand Naruto main cast I couldn't even finish the show. I was gonna say One Piece is 10000x times better but since this is a battle between two of the big three. Bleach - Ichigo is boring af, but he is not unlikeable - Rukia however is a great female lead - The action is cool even though the dialogue during the fights are pretty annoying - Better OST - Better character design and art style - Better humor - Orihime is not annoying nor useless. I don't find her interesting but I don't hate her - Many of the major characters are great Naruto - Sakura is one of the most annoying female character ever existed - I'd say Sasuke too, never liked him. But I've yet to learn his back story so I wouldn't say anything - Naruto is okay, sometimes annoying, but okay. Still pretty boring tho. Not a fan of dumb, childish and naive character - I find side characters much more interesting than the main cast - Because the main characters is the most important part for me to enjoy a story, I decided to drop Naruto Shippuuden. I hate one of the main cast, and didn't care the slightest bit for the rest. So I see no point in continue watching. So, for me it's Bleach>Naruto in the end. |
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Halpher said: Paul said: You care enough to keep responding to me specifically, so yes. No one wants to go reread your walls of text, 1 time is enough. I'd suggest you just go back to each page, CTRL+F "Orihime" and look at everything you posted about her and think twice about how pretty much all of it applies to Sakura too, yet you choose to believe they're different because of tiny little details that make little to no difference. Your starting sentence is stupid. I'm not going to consider anything you said here. You haven't shown to me anything and failed to persuade me. Just leave. Nothing I say would persuade you as you clearly won't give anything you dislike a chance. You're mentality is the kind to forever hate something probably for the most simplistic reason. I already posted examples before and to my expectations, see you do exactly what I expect you would, nitpicking with a huge wall of text trying to differentiate the two when everything you batter on about applied to both. |
NelfreyH said: Halpher said: Introduction Gotei 13 > Hidden Leaf & Hidden Sand I say this with confidence. The Leaf and Sand are the 2 most shown villages in the series and I can't judge every other village as not much was explored despite it being fucking stupid. The Leaf's 3rd Hokage is the WORST HOKAGE OF ALL TIME and the 5th is the SECOND WORST HOKAGE! Saurtobi Hiruzen allowed for Danzo to do so much fuckery it's not even funny. Infact Sarutobi allowed Orochimaru to successfully infiltrate the village and attack it. Sarutobi was the reason that Neji's father died.....Another ninja from the Cloud village attacked the Hyugas and they killed him and the Cloud got mad and wanted the Leaf to send a ninja to them so they can kill them...obviously you tell the Cloud to go f-themselves? Oh wait....... The Uchiha Massacre didn't have to happen if only the 3rd Hokage didn't allow Danzo to have power. Itachi and Shisui one of them wanted to put them under a Genjustu for a while. Danzo took Shisui's fucking eye. The 5th Hokage Tsunade for some reason Is a Narutard She sends NARUTO UZUMAKI TO THE AKATSUKI! because "NARUTO CAN'T LOSE" and when the village elders try to compromise with Tsunade to keep Naruto in the village instead of Tsunade compromising with them to have Naruto get training she tells them to have Naruto be sent on Missions and THESE MISSIONS ARE HIM GOING TO THE FUCKING AKATSUKI that he will be safer traveling in 4-Man Squads where the Akatsuki can't find him, but WHY SAY THAT WHEN NARUTO'S MISSIONS HAVE ALWAYS INVOLVED THE AKATSUKI YOU FUCKING IDIOT! It would be better to have in the village for so many reasons. If you bring up Itachi and Pain then do you understand how incompetent the Leaf is? Literally Ninjas can come in undetected or detected and the Leaf is incompetent to do anything. Naruto only learned Sage Mode....he still had 2 Justu....I swear the Leaf is weak, but the SAND IS EVEN WORSE! Tsunade is a stupid bitch who sends Genin to fight Dangerous Ninja to rescue Sasuke. The Leaf Village have weak ass ninjas to where Genin are more competent than the Jonin. First of all, really like the post and the discussion, I enjoyed both of this animes and just wanted to say, can we talk the fact that Aizen hide between the most powerfulls captains and never anyone suspected him? Hahaha peace bro, just want to said that (Also if someone did and I dont remember is because I have a looong time whitout seen Bleach, in fact this post made me want to see it again). Actually... They've suspected him.... Also, I'm happy that you've enjoyed both series. I'm really happy you could have a nice time with both. |
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Shicchi said: I don't know what to say. One thing for sure, none of Bleach main cast is annoying, some of them are interesting. I couldn't stand Naruto main cast I couldn't even finish the show. I was gonna say One Piece is 10000x times better but since this is a battle between two of the big three. Bleach - Ichigo is boring af, but he is not unlikeable - Rukia however is a great female lead - The action is cool even though the dialogue during the fights are pretty annoying - Better OST - Better character design and art style - Better humor - Orihime is not annoying nor useless. I don't find her interesting but I don't hate her - Many of the major characters are great Naruto - Sakura is one of the most annoying female character ever existed - I'd say Sasuke too, never liked him. But I've yet to learn his back story so I wouldn't say anything - Naruto is okay, sometimes annoying, but okay. Still pretty boring tho. Not a fan of dumb, childish and naive character - I find side characters much more interesting than the main cast - Because the main characters is the most important part for me to enjoy a story, I decided to drop Naruto Shippuuden. I hate one of the main cast, and didn't care the slightest bit for the rest. So I see no point in continue watching. So, for me it's Bleach>Naruto in the end. I thought you were going to say Naruto > Bleach, but I don't care what you said. I am really happy that you posted and it felt like it wasn't saying the same shit following what everyone has said. It felt "Honest" to me and thats all I really want. Whether or not you find flaws, merits or nothing in both, one or neither I just want sincerity. I got tired of everyone saying the same shit and act like it's fact. I don't mind if someone likes Naruto, but if they say Naruto having a goal and all this shit it creates problems Mainly because we have "BERSERK" and Guts didn't have a goal yet people love Berserk Samurai Champloo and Yusuke from Yu Yu Hakasho I think people don't know what the fuck they are talking about. They say this shit out of spite for bleach or just to find an issue. I feel some didn't even watch it or check it out honestly and the shit I hear about it is just bologna |
| Sincerely, from Scorpio. |
nukerxero123 said: I'm not shitting on you, but no series can be truly greater than another. First of all, by posting this, you might have started a war, but let me continue. Best can only be decided by a person's opinions and tastes. Now people shit on SAO, I still enjoyed it thoroughly. Naruto and bleach, are both the the best in the eyes of different people. What you are doing is pushing your opinion onto other people and trying to justify it. How you should have worded the title is, "Why I like Bleach better than Naruto.' One point you brought up is maturity, I read a lot of children manga, yet I'm about college and I consider myself very mature, I read them because its fun and I enjoy the genre. Doraemon, I enjoyed. I read it cause it helps mr to relax and I find it funny and amusing. Moreover, I actually enjoyed the immaturity of Naruto as the genre is Shonen, meant for young boys and teenagers. Finally, Dragon ball, Z, Gt, super, is a well known series but not really that good, I can say that. Too many asspulls and deus-ex machines, and over the top drama. Yet this is what I enjoy about the show. What you might hate might be completely loved by another. Last example, A lot of people hate the Hajime no Ippo training scenes and arc (too small to be called arcs), but that's the thing i love the most about the manga. So to recap you should have worded it like I mentioned above, as it seems like you are pushing your opinion onto other people. Also, what you might hate, could just as easily be loved by another person. Dude I have been literally saying it's my opinion and people have made that an issue. You can go back to the beginning I have been saying this. |
| Sincerely, from Scorpio. |
pgmhecateii said: I don't really know, since they are equally bad. 7 is a good enough score for them. Sure they have moments (Naruto and Bleach) and characters (Bleach) I liked, but they're still the usual cliche mainstream shounen stuff. If they're bad to you I don't think 7 is a good score I would go lower, but thats just me. |
| Sincerely, from Scorpio. |
Erebus25 said: Halpher said: @Erebus25 Explain how in Super Eyepatch's video how he states Bleach started to be pushed back in the cover, but yet at around the end of the Fullbring...BLEACH IS SEEMINGLY THE COVER!? Funny how in HIS VIDEO! When he shows his ranking Bleach fell down the rankings...so tell me @Erebus25 how this correlates and supports Eyepatch Wolf's point? Infact I stated that the Front Page doesn't dictate your manga is the most popular. I also said being on the front page meant that you didn't get ranked because thats how the rankings work. If One Piece is on the cover then it most likely didn't get ranked that week. Also I said that each ranking is based off 7 issues ago meaning it's at minimum 7 WEEKS AGO! If you research this as it's hard to find the links and I tell you I looked deep to understand how Shonen Jump's ratings worked you would find out that what Super Eyepatch Wolf said is bullshit. I also told you that it's all based on the Japanese Region because Weekly Shonen Jump is literally distributed in Japanese way before English. I fucking laugh how people who use illegal manga streaming sites to read act like they have an effect on a ranking in which you have to buy it to even rank it. I thought Anime & Manga fans were broke and thats why we use Illegal Streaming Sites. I fucking laugh at how extremely stupid this is and how everyone believed what that guy said because it repeats the same bullshit that everyone said about Bleach not considering the ranking is based off their opinion. It's arrogant and conceited. Bleach to this day is still something relevant as literally look at the recent death battle and look at videos talking Espada vs Akatsuki look at Ichigo vs Ginjo over 1 M views in a Day Everyone ignores and rips on Bleach for stupid reasons and thats why I'm here to go against it. I'm not a huge fan of Bleach to act like it's an amazing series. I can keep going as I didn't even get on Naruto yet because everyone ignores what I said about Naruto and only just say "Bleach is worse" even though everything I said about Naruto is actually not the same issues others pointed out. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/weekly-shonen-jump/4050-43519/?page=7 The one you posted is issue #2134, now look at #2151 and where Ichigo is, that was the SEW's point. "I also told you that it's all based on the Japanese Region because Weekly Shonen Jump is literally distributed in Japanese way before English." And I told you it's Japan's popularity that matter because it decides whether the anime/manga gets canceled. Especially around the time when Bleach aired and popularity in the West meant nothing. "I fucking laugh at how extremely stupid this is and how everyone believed what that guy said because it repeats the same bullshit that everyone said about Bleach not considering the ranking is based off their opinion." Of course ranking is based on opinion, on what else it would be. Unless you wanna say the numbers he used are incorrect I don't understand you point. Link me videos you wanna talk about, I'm not going to search for them. And once again, you haven't even started to talk about anything he said about quality of the manga deteriorating because that is obvious from the story, from the manga frames and consequently from the rankings. Dude, You're straight up biased and this link proves it. This link the one you used to defend Eyepatch actually destroys his point even more. Look at issue #2143 and issue #2157. It also seems in a issue like #2151 they want to include all the manga compared to others which only shows like 1 or 2.... Did you blatantly ignore those other issues there? Literally this is 2012-2013 when Bleach was supposedly on it's decline stated by Eyepatch Wolf so why is it that Bleach gets front covers? Answer that question. The issue I put out came out around the time proving my point again . |
| Sincerely, from Scorpio. |
Erebus25 said: Halpher said: @Erebus25 Explain how in Super Eyepatch's video how he states Bleach started to be pushed back in the cover, but yet at around the end of the Fullbring...BLEACH IS SEEMINGLY THE COVER!? Funny how in HIS VIDEO! When he shows his ranking Bleach fell down the rankings...so tell me @Erebus25 how this correlates and supports Eyepatch Wolf's point? Infact I stated that the Front Page doesn't dictate your manga is the most popular. I also said being on the front page meant that you didn't get ranked because thats how the rankings work. If One Piece is on the cover then it most likely didn't get ranked that week. Also I said that each ranking is based off 7 issues ago meaning it's at minimum 7 WEEKS AGO! If you research this as it's hard to find the links and I tell you I looked deep to understand how Shonen Jump's ratings worked you would find out that what Super Eyepatch Wolf said is bullshit. I also told you that it's all based on the Japanese Region because Weekly Shonen Jump is literally distributed in Japanese way before English. I fucking laugh how people who use illegal manga streaming sites to read act like they have an effect on a ranking in which you have to buy it to even rank it. I thought Anime & Manga fans were broke and thats why we use Illegal Streaming Sites. I fucking laugh at how extremely stupid this is and how everyone believed what that guy said because it repeats the same bullshit that everyone said about Bleach not considering the ranking is based off their opinion. It's arrogant and conceited. Bleach to this day is still something relevant as literally look at the recent death battle and look at videos talking Espada vs Akatsuki look at Ichigo vs Ginjo over 1 M views in a Day Everyone ignores and rips on Bleach for stupid reasons and thats why I'm here to go against it. I'm not a huge fan of Bleach to act like it's an amazing series. I can keep going as I didn't even get on Naruto yet because everyone ignores what I said about Naruto and only just say "Bleach is worse" even though everything I said about Naruto is actually not the same issues others pointed out. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/weekly-shonen-jump/4050-43519/?page=7 The one you posted is issue #2134, now look at #2151 and where Ichigo is, that was the SEW's point. "I also told you that it's all based on the Japanese Region because Weekly Shonen Jump is literally distributed in Japanese way before English." And I told you it's Japan's popularity that matter because it decides whether the anime/manga gets canceled. Especially around the time when Bleach aired and popularity in the West meant nothing. "I fucking laugh at how extremely stupid this is and how everyone believed what that guy said because it repeats the same bullshit that everyone said about Bleach not considering the ranking is based off their opinion." Of course ranking is based on opinion, on what else it would be. Unless you wanna say the numbers he used are incorrect I don't understand you point. Link me videos you wanna talk about, I'm not going to search for them. And once again, you haven't even started to talk about anything he said about quality of the manga deteriorating because that is obvious from the story, from the manga frames and consequently from the rankings. Also stop acting like the manga deteriorating is a fact. It's an opinion. You thought it got worse and not everyone thought the same. Also again IT's JAPAN BASED RANKINGS! Do the people here live in Japan or buy weekly shonen jump magazines? Please answer that. I'm getting sick of people acting like the rankings is as a result from them or popularity WHEN IT DOESN'T JUDGE POPULARITY! I swear to my soul that people interpret the rankings in the worst way I have ever seen. You don't use a Japan region based ranking to explain to a West Audience why a series failed in Popularity to them. It's stupid. Again! No one in the west knew about Jojo yet it was #1 in Rankings in 2004 yet no one was talking about JoJo in the West It just got popular now Seriously I can't write this |
| Sincerely, from Scorpio. |
pgmhecateii said: Halpher said: It's not that bad...just a little too boring and yes, I prefer newer anime. The Bount Arc in Bleach was long, too. And I don't like Ichigo's motivation, "for my friends" nor nakama power.If they're bad to you I don't think 7 is a good score I would go lower, but thats just me. Oh...so you watched "Filler" I skipped Filler. I think if I watched Filler I would've hated Bleach, but I skipped filler. I think Filler played a part in why people disliked Bleach and I can understand why. When it was ongoing literally filler happens and waste the people's time. It destroyed pacing and it could've tired people out and they could've gotten bored. Not saying thats why you got bored as it could be an entirely different reason for you. Like you can see Ichigo vs Grimmjow then next EP they are at School and I find that really bad for viewers who tuned in to see what happens next week. |
| Sincerely, from Scorpio. |
nukerxero123 said: Halpher said: Dude I have been literally saying it's my opinion and people have made that an issue. You can go back to the beginning I have been saying this. I know its your opinion, and I've seen it too. This wasn't only meant for you though, this was meant for anyone with tunnel vision, and those who can't accept an opinion other than their own. What was especially meant for you was the recording part. That one just help for you, so idiots don't start to blow their top on you on MAL over this topic. Simply making it seem like 'why you think it is' would have stopped a lot of the idiots from posting. You must be so busy to replying to all those comments, feel bad for you man. I am busy with my baby nephew because certain people are irresponsible to take care of him so literally i'm left not having any sleep dealing with this. It's not my responsibility, man. |
| Sincerely, from Scorpio. |
| @Erebus25 You don't seem to get that Eyepatch Wolf used criticisms from people not in Japan or that don't live there or the ones who rank it, but from people on the internet which can range from anywhere and likely not speak english. Eyepatch Wolf's video is bullshit and his other videos are stupid. Some people can praise or shit on Naruto and it could be a good video. Eyepatch Wolf doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about and I laugh. |
| Sincerely, from Scorpio. |
Halpher said: Shicchi said: I don't know what to say. One thing for sure, none of Bleach main cast is annoying, some of them are interesting. I couldn't stand Naruto main cast I couldn't even finish the show. I was gonna say One Piece is 10000x times better but since this is a battle between two of the big three. Bleach - Ichigo is boring af, but he is not unlikeable - Rukia however is a great female lead - The action is cool even though the dialogue during the fights are pretty annoying - Better OST - Better character design and art style - Better humor - Orihime is not annoying nor useless. I don't find her interesting but I don't hate her - Many of the major characters are great Naruto - Sakura is one of the most annoying female character ever existed - I'd say Sasuke too, never liked him. But I've yet to learn his back story so I wouldn't say anything - Naruto is okay, sometimes annoying, but okay. Still pretty boring tho. Not a fan of dumb, childish and naive character - I find side characters much more interesting than the main cast - Because the main characters is the most important part for me to enjoy a story, I decided to drop Naruto Shippuuden. I hate one of the main cast, and didn't care the slightest bit for the rest. So I see no point in continue watching. So, for me it's Bleach>Naruto in the end. I thought you were going to say Naruto > Bleach, but I don't care what you said. I am really happy that you posted and it felt like it wasn't saying the same shit following what everyone has said. It felt "Honest" to me and thats all I really want. Whether or not you find flaws, merits or nothing in both, one or neither I just want sincerity. I got tired of everyone saying the same shit and act like it's fact. I don't mind if someone likes Naruto, but if they say Naruto having a goal and all this shit it creates problems Mainly because we have "BERSERK" and Guts didn't have a goal yet people love Berserk Samurai Champloo and Yusuke from Yu Yu Hakasho I think people don't know what the fuck they are talking about. They say this shit out of spite for bleach or just to find an issue. I feel some didn't even watch it or check it out honestly and the shit I hear about it is just bologna I'm always honest ;D Sometimes people just baffled me. How does one character having goal is better than character that have no goal? Like the bad and good of a character can be determined by that alone haha. I dropped Naruto though so my opinion might be biased. But yeah, the fact that I can finish Bleach means that at least I enjoyed it more than Naruto :D Some people just like to bash Bleach because it's the least popular of the big three or just to make Naruto looks better haha because neither can be compared to One Piece |
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nukerxero123 said: Halpher said: I am busy with my baby nephew because certain people are irresponsible to take care of him so literally i'm left not having any sleep dealing with this. It's not my responsibility, man. Hahaha, I just looked at your profile, 19 years old and has to take care of a kid. Now I really feel bad, get off the dam site and take care of the kid, or it might get more annoying once he starts crying. Hope you get some sleep man. I might kill myself, actually. Also if anyone comes at me I might just give them Manga chapters to prove them wrong at this point. What i've been saying could easily be backed up by the manga or anime. Both Bleach and Naruto. I could bring up Naruto Shippuden Chapters, but no one has defended Naruto's flaws or issues that I addressed they just repeat what everyone else said like "Naruto having a goal" or "No Character Development" and i find it contradictory. People complain characters have a goal because it's cliche, but then if you don't for some reason you're a shitty main-character. Many have watched Cartoons and I can guarantee they liked those cartoons and other folk lore where guys are wandering and had no goal, but their character was that they were kind and humble guys who fought for their own reasons I don't think people know what a "Plot" is nor do they know what a "Character" is if they think that shallow. I don't want to sound like an elitsit either. Like Ichigo not having a goal isn't taking away from his character it's just apart of his character as he is just a guy who helps people and it isn't like Naruto who wants appreciation, but Ichigo just wants to keep his friends safe. Literally thats characterization. Let me show how both Naruto and Bleach had plots Naruto literally Naruto tries to save Gaara Bleach Ichigo has to infiltrate the Soul Society Both plots not about being about a Main-Characters Goal I don't think people understand what a plot is as they may prefer a plot related to the Main-Character's Long-Term Goal. |
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Shicchi said: Halpher said: I thought you were going to say Naruto > Bleach, but I don't care what you said. I am really happy that you posted and it felt like it wasn't saying the same shit following what everyone has said. It felt "Honest" to me and thats all I really want. Whether or not you find flaws, merits or nothing in both, one or neither I just want sincerity. I got tired of everyone saying the same shit and act like it's fact. I don't mind if someone likes Naruto, but if they say Naruto having a goal and all this shit it creates problems Mainly because we have "BERSERK" and Guts didn't have a goal yet people love Berserk Samurai Champloo and Yusuke from Yu Yu Hakasho I think people don't know what the fuck they are talking about. They say this shit out of spite for bleach or just to find an issue. I feel some didn't even watch it or check it out honestly and the shit I hear about it is just bologna I'm always honest ;D Sometimes people just baffled me. How does one character having goal is better than character that have no goal? Like the bad and good of a character can be determined by that alone haha. I dropped Naruto though so my opinion might be biased. But yeah, the fact that I can finish Bleach means that at least I enjoyed it more than Naruto :D Some people just like to bash Bleach because it's the least popular of the big three or just to make Naruto looks better haha because neither can be compared to One Piece Well yh Goals don't make a character better if done poorly. The problem with Naruto's goal was not the goal itself but rather the journey towards it. In the beginning he wanted to be Hokage because he wanted recognition from the ppl around him. His reason for that goal was actually relatable. But as the series went on, Naruto went from a somewhat relatable character, to a boyscout whos ideals were just taught to him by pervy sage, at least Deku came up with his ideals on his own (and I don't like BNHA that much). And to make things worse, he was the CHOSEN ONE after all and thus destroyed the whole underdog story (Naruto was pretty much a underdog story in the beginning). He also only became more boring because he as a character, only worked well when surounded by more interesting and enjoyable characters like Rock Lee, Shikamaru, Neji and etc and his rivalry with Sasuke. But Shippuden completely made the enjoyable side characters irrelevant and seperated Naruto and Sasuke, heck the female characters got the worst end of the stick. And then Naruto the last was just Naruhina the movie with a boring as Villain. Plus Naruto as a series just became a Victim of Pierrots Filler filler filler and dragging stuff out mentallity (the same reason why black clover's anime is getting disliked despite the mangas popularity and the reason why I dropped Naruto). Goals don't mean much without a proper reason for it and for the characters own actions. |
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