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Oct 8, 2017 9:58 AM
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im a huge fan of the manga and since i know the quality of the writing wont go downhill, in fact the later chapters keep getting better and more and more intense, and SURPRISINGLY the anime adaptation has a really really beautiful art that captures the charm of the manga, i give it 9999999999/10 already, (it still can go to -99999999/10 if they give it some cringy original ending tho)

AND, in the 1st episode discussion, i saw most people saying that the art is gorgeous and the story is interesting, and phos is likable, basically people are praising the 1st episode (which makes me super happy), but then, the score for this anime is... like... a freaking 6.9?!!!!!! why in the world?!!!
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Oct 8, 2017 10:11 AM
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A 6.9 isn't that bad of a score but I'm sure once we start getting later into the season and more people start watching it the score will start increasing anyway
Oct 8, 2017 10:17 AM
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dw it'll prob avg around 7. something later on



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Oct 8, 2017 10:36 AM
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LackofAfro said:
A 6.9 isn't that bad of a score but I'm sure once we start getting later into the season and more people start watching it the score will start increasing anyway


Well, by MAL standards, most things under a 7 are considered bad.

Oct 8, 2017 10:38 AM
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The problem is a low score often discourages people to watch the anime. The less people watch the show, the less likely it gonna increase its score.
Oct 8, 2017 10:55 AM
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Probably because CG and anime fans being unable to accept CG a lot of times. People who are watching the show seriously see how the CG is good though


Oct 8, 2017 10:58 AM
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Dropping it without score. Hard to guess how this will develop. But with the beginning being a bit more boring I can understand people already scoring it low.

(Seems to me like this is some show that will develop only much later and have certain episodes with drama and story reveals where it starts to get interesting. I'll wait until it is finished and read the reviews. Hopefully it will get interesting later and get a good end. Maybe picking it up again then.)
Oct 8, 2017 1:13 PM
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But now it is on 7 and hope it stays that way or get better
Oct 8, 2017 1:17 PM
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Even ousama game has a lower score. This types are not well received.

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Oct 8, 2017 2:30 PM

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Luthandorius said:
Dropping it without score. Hard to guess how this will develop. But with the beginning being a bit more boring I can understand people already scoring it low.

(Seems to me like this is some show that will develop only much later and have certain episodes with drama and story reveals where it starts to get interesting. I'll wait until it is finished and read the reviews. Hopefully it will get interesting later and get a good end. Maybe picking it up again then.)


welll you are mostly right there, it's kind of the same situations as steins gate, but the problem isn't much with how interesting it is but about how confusing it is, whiile mo st people who love the series get the gist of it from the start, almost everyone who dropped the manga did so at the end of volume 1 because they understood nothing, but usually the same people rethink that opinion as they get to chapter 8-10, but after that it just gets faster and faster, in fact, i'd say that once you reach chapter... 14? it never stops, it just goes faster and faster on a rollercoaster of emotions and mindblows, although the focus of this all is less or more volume 3's latter part.
Oct 11, 2017 6:39 AM

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Look pretty ok to me D:
Oct 11, 2017 7:39 AM

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bibi-fan said:
Probably because CG and anime fans being unable to accept CG a lot of times. People who are watching the show seriously see how the CG is good though


/thread

It's perhaps the best new show coming out this season.
Oct 11, 2017 8:16 AM

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The 1st episode was not good.

If are looking for something has super low score then Shoukoku no Altair is good example, it has much lower score than what it deserves
Oct 11, 2017 12:27 PM
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thepath said:
The 1st episode was not good.

If are looking for something has super low score then Shoukoku no Altair is good example, it has much lower score than what it deserves


That's because Shoukoku no Altair is an absolutely mediocre adaptation of what is a pretty good manga, and that is what it deserves. Houseki no Kuni is looking to be a potentially decent adaptaion of a very good manga. While it is true that the story starts slow, it seems to be getting a lot of hate just from being CG and most likely from people who have totally wrong idea about where the story is going.
Oct 11, 2017 5:47 PM
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I'm honestly just as surprised as you. Although I have yet to read the manga, this first episode was both gorgeous as well as interesting. To receive such a score is unfair. Hopefully people will realize how good this show is, and would be.
Oct 12, 2017 4:42 AM

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Honestly, I can understand the 7. The first episode focuses too much in conveying information and focuses little on conveying emotion. Cinnabar's monologue while saving Phos specially takes away so much of the power of her self loathing that could have been expanded on much later in the series instead of spoon-feeding it to us immediately just to say: "Hey, yeah see this character? She has deep seated issues. We will be deep. This is a deep serious series. Come back next episode, kay?"

The show took away most of its immediate oomph by trying to reassure us.
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Oct 13, 2017 1:09 PM

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Agree. This anime for me is a 9/10 type of anime. Definitely deserves more recognition and a way better score. However I have no doubt that it will increase as more episodes are released and more ppl start watching.

Personally for me, and most others, 3-D animation is horrible. HOWEVER, this anime does it flawlessly to a point where the characters movements and facial expressions are to some extent better than normal 2-D animation.

This is second candidate for AOTS for me, The first being Juuni Taisen
Oct 15, 2017 1:18 AM
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It's over 7 now I can't see why.
Is this manga readers liking it so much? Because it wasn't anything great.
Manga seems to be popular, so maybe people who read it know it gets better?
Oct 15, 2017 7:10 AM
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Bozzzz said:
It's over 7 now I can't see why.
Is this manga readers liking it so much? Because it wasn't anything great.
Manga seems to be popular, so maybe people who read it know it gets better?


Let's ask a better question: what's so bad about it?
Is it because it's CG?
Is it because you have bias on how you think the story will develop given the characters are gems and pretty boys?
Is it because of the directing?
because the characters are boring?
etc.
Oct 15, 2017 7:35 AM

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People are hating simply because of use of 3D. No other reason.
Same was with Kemono Friends who was like 4,5/10 after 1st episode.
Oct 15, 2017 7:48 AM
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Niello said:
Bozzzz said:
It's over 7 now I can't see why.
Is this manga readers liking it so much? Because it wasn't anything great.
Manga seems to be popular, so maybe people who read it know it gets better?


Let's ask a better question: what's so bad about it?
Is it because it's CG?
Is it because you have bias on how you think the story will develop given the characters are gems and pretty boys?
Is it because of the directing?
because the characters are boring?
etc.

CG is ok.
Actually didn't get that feeling but the way you asked that makes me think it won't go anywhere good. It's not a girls anime? Or is the seinen tag wrong?
As I haven't read the manga, I can't say if it's the directing or the source. I gives the feeling of cute things anime but then there is some conflict added. But that seems too discarded, like it was added only to have something else in addition to cute things.
The characters aren't exactly boring but based on 1 episeode there isn't nothing original there. I just don't care too mauch about them.
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Bozzzz said:
Niello said:


Let's ask a better question: what's so bad about it?
Is it because it's CG?
Is it because you have bias on how you think the story will develop given the characters are gems and pretty boys?
Is it because of the directing?
because the characters are boring?
etc.

CG is ok.
Actually didn't get that feeling but the way you asked that makes me think it won't go anywhere good. It's not a girls anime? Or is the seinen tag wrong?
As I haven't read the manga, I can't say if it's the directing or the source. I gives the feeling of cute things anime but then there is some conflict added. But that seems too discarded, like it was added only to have something else in addition to cute things.
The characters aren't exactly boring but based on 1 episeode there isn't nothing original there. I just don't care too mauch about them.


The seinen tag is definitely not wrong. So it seems like it's the second question we should be discussing. The real premise can actually be summarised neatly if you have read or watch Fullmetal Alchemist. It's about finding "the truth behind truths", as Dr. Marco had put it. It does take a while to get to that part, but after that the tone will start to shift more and more in a way that match Phos' development. It is unlikely that you will be able to guess the over all plot progression except perhaps a certain recurring thing that Phos will be undergoing. As of the current chapter in the manga, Phos is truly like a different person from how he is in the anime. It definitely gets more psychological and far from cute things kind of show. Heck, after two episodes I still haven't seen anyone guessed a single thing correctly.

Here's an out of context page from the manga:


Note: This show has a very buddhist theme, there's a monk, the moon people design looks like bodhisattva, and the gems are eternally in a cycle of rebirth. Then there are also other things that tie into it, but those are spoilers.
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Oct 15, 2017 5:19 PM
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I just marathoned the manga because of the first couple eps of the anime, there's no way this doesn't end at least at 9/10
Oct 22, 2017 6:37 AM

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I feel like any 3DCG anime just loses half a point just because of haters.
Oct 22, 2017 11:38 AM
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I honestly don't understand the score (but then again this is MAL), to be honest this is one of my favorites of the season, especially when it comes to the 3G being blend well with the characters. Not only that the entire atmosphere is just amazing.
Oct 22, 2017 11:43 AM

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More like a super ultra mega bomb low score...

On a more serious note OP, you can't trust episode discussions, even anime with generally well rated episode discussions can have shit scores.
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Oct 22, 2017 11:46 AM

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Good to see it went up from the 6 threshold. I remember this was in the 6 threshold when I posted here. Lol
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Oct 23, 2017 12:39 AM

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Yep, this anime is really under-appreciated. The CGI is actually well done, one of the best CGI I've ever seen in anime.
Oct 24, 2017 5:32 AM
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Yep, this anime is really under-appreciated. The CGI is actually well done, one of the best CGI I've ever seen in anime.

It can't just rige on good CGI/animation.
I find the general idea intreaguing but execution is poor.
Oct 24, 2017 6:14 AM

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actually, who cares about MAL score.
In Japan, phos is popular.
one of big 10 at tv rating, even this is cg
https://www.anikore.jp/chronicle/2017/autumn/ac:tv/
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Cavendish-san said:
actually, who cares about MAL score.
In Japan, phos is popular.
one of big 10 at tv rating, even this is cg
https://www.anikore.jp/chronicle/2017/autumn/ac:tv/


Thats cool =) but what is this site? Just want to know more about the site.
Oct 24, 2017 9:11 AM

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Bozzzz said:
athes1995 said:
Yep, this anime is really under-appreciated. The CGI is actually well done, one of the best CGI I've ever seen in anime.

It can't just rige on good CGI/animation.
I find the general idea intreaguing but execution is poor.


It's just my first impression after a few first eps. The cgi is good and the settings is interesting. About the execution (story, characters) I think I should watch more eps before judging it.
Oct 24, 2017 8:28 PM

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Even ousama game has a lower score. This types are not well received.

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"That type".... What type? they aren't even remotely similar, lmao. They have no type in common.
Oct 25, 2017 1:35 AM
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Been curious about this. Totally deserves a higher score; it's a nice-looking show with a great vibe.

Part of me suspects it's the 3D animation, but Inuyashiki seems to have been comparatively well-received so far despite crappier CGI . I have also seen a couple of people ranting about the use of gender neutral pronouns in the translations, though I ain't seen enough of those takes to say that it's a reason for the lower scoring. Not about to go trawling forums and blogs to try and affirm that possibility.

Hope the score being low 7s doesn't put anyone off checking the show out. It's been pretty fun so far.
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ipopa1995 said:
Cavendish-san said:
actually, who cares about MAL score.
In Japan, phos is popular.
one of big 10 at tv rating, even this is cg
https://www.anikore.jp/chronicle/2017/autumn/ac:tv/


Thats cool =) but what is this site? Just want to know more about the site.


this site is about tv rating for anime seasonal without long series (one piece, sazae-san). I don't if this site is accurate or not, but i only know this site about tv ranking :)
Oct 25, 2017 9:09 AM

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Well it has been slowly rising.
Maybe people are adapting to the gorgeous CGI.
Oct 27, 2017 2:37 AM

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Maybe it's a combination of the character designs and animation. True it might look great, but designs like these and overall premise isn't everyone's cup of tea.

The fact that the gems are genderless might put them off too. Anime is...strange. People want to identify with the main characters from the get go, and having a lack of gender makes it hard to relate to. I don't speak for everyone here, but when I watched this it did put me off.

I will give the show credit though, it can draw a great crowd in. Buuut I think the overall premise isn't for everyone. The page gives off a SHIT ton of characters, and it's not hard to assume that with so many characters with a short amount of run time(12 eps) is almost doomed to fail.

In conclusion I think what is going on here is a combination of uncanny valley(Not everyone will like how this show looks) and quantity over quality characters. Also the premise can put people off too. But these are only guesses.
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Oct 27, 2017 9:23 AM
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quantity over quality characters.


So, you are basically talking about people who rate a show without ever watching it? The page may list off a lot of that character, but that doesn't mean that all of them are major characters. So far, the show has only focused on Phos, Cinnabar, Dia and the snail. The more prevalent support characters are Rutile, Jade, Euclase, Sensei, Bort, Goshe and Morganite. That's not really many by most show's standard. If people are judging it on that then they are basing it off the what prejudice they have going into the show, not what it is.
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People are hating it and giving it such a low score because many of them hate CGI Animation. I don't like CGI too but this Anime looks pretty fine to me.
One of the few CGI animations I do actually like and the Anime also has a REALLY interesting and dark Story.


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Oct 27, 2017 9:48 AM
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It's because CGI, 1st episode isn't that interesting or they think the story/concept is too weird. But i bet the score will raise over time.
Nov 12, 2017 1:08 AM

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Well up to a 7.5 now. Has a great chance at reaching an 8 after it finishes airing.
Nov 12, 2017 3:54 PM

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Surely or easily above 8 with the "last week boost".

It will probably end up being the best rated non-sequel anime of the season, ... behind mahoutsukai no yome.

We'll see. I don't how the writing goes for the second half.

I'm really glad I gave it a try after reading some positive comments on the first episode.
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It will probably end up being the best rated non-sequel anime of the season, ... behind mahoutsukai no yome.


That doesn't really count as new, seing as the prequel OVA came first and it was hella popular.

But it does have competition from Inuyashiki.
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dc22 said:
Ysad_Ziwezhan said:

It will probably end up being the best rated non-sequel anime of the season, ... behind mahoutsukai no yome.


That doesn't really count as new, seing as the prequel OVA came first and it was hella popular.

But it does have competition from Inuyashiki.


If Inuyashiki follows the manga faithfully, the ending is going to be hit or miss for many people.

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1641935&pollresults=1
Just look at this unusually even score.
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dc22 said:


That doesn't really count as new, seing as the prequel OVA came first and it was hella popular.

But it does have competition from Inuyashiki.


If Inuyashiki follows the manga faithfully, the ending is going to be hit or miss for many people.

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1641935&pollresults=1
Just look at this unusually even score.


That's what I thought too.



dc22 said:
Ysad_Ziwezhan said:

It will probably end up being the best rated non-sequel anime of the season, ... behind mahoutsukai no yome.


That doesn't really count as new, seing as the prequel OVA came first and it was hella popular.

But it does have competition from Inuyashiki.


I don't count the OVA as a prequel because it's a story "next to" the story and I think it helped in terms of popularity but not in terms of rating, I mean I don't think people will love the main show because of the OVAs while very often a second season'rating is "pushed" because many "haters" stopped at the first season and as a consequence the number of people rating the second seasons dropped. Here, there are already more followers (50% more) of the first seasons than people who watched the OVAs and we are only at the fourth of the whole length.
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Ysad_Ziwezhan said:


dc22 said:


That doesn't really count as new, seing as the prequel OVA came first and it was hella popular.

But it does have competition from Inuyashiki.


I don't count the OVA as a prequel because it's a story "next to" the story and I think it helped in terms of popularity but not in terms of rating, I mean I don't think people will love the main show because of the OVAs while very often a second season'rating is "pushed" because many "haters" stopped at the first season and as a consequence the number of people rating the second seasons dropped. Here, there are already more followers (50% more) of the first seasons than people who watched the OVAs and we are only at the fourth of the whole length.


MahoYome score advantage still came from the OVA though. That, and the large manga fanbase where most will vote it 9s and 10s no matter what happens, and regardless of whether it's a quality adaptation or not.
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I usually add anime to my list after I finish watching it.
So maybe there are many other people who don't score it until season is finished.
Let's hope!
Nov 23, 2017 8:35 PM

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I'm glad it's rising. Hopefully episode 8 will make the score go up more.
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Yeah it’s a solid 6 so far. I don’t even know what is, or even if there is, a plot. Simply survival? What is her motivation? Right now it’s a slice of life revolving around phos that has just been character and world building.

I have no idea why the seinen tag.

Also 6 is a good score. 5 is average, less than 5 is the bad area.
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Yeah it’s a solid 6 so far. I don’t even know what is, or even if there is, a plot. Simply survival? What is her motivation? Right now it’s a slice of life revolving around phos that has just been character and world building.

I have no idea why the seinen tag.

Also 6 is a good score. 5 is average, less than 5 is the bad area.

Just wait for the next episode. It's where shit hits the fan and the true plot begins.

I'm just gonna say, it deserves it's seinen tag especially later on.
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