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Aug 24, 2017 8:49 AM
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logic340 said:
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because I'm town and i don't want mafia to know my role
A simple no would suffice wouldn't it or is saying that going to reveal your role?
fine, no, I'm not the doctor
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Amai_yume said:
@RE1031 Just because I see things differently from you doesn't make me scum. I still think grrr is being really scummy with the fps and that really doesn't help in this setup. Togs I wish he would respond back to me on what IIoA means because i haven't heard it elsewhere.

Information instead of analysis.

Like stating or giving an overview of the current situation instead of real behavioral analysis and etc.
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logic340 said:
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@RE1031 Just because I see things differently from you doesn't make me scum. I still think grrr is being really scummy with the fps and that really doesn't help in this setup. Togs I wish he would respond back to me on what IIoA means because i haven't heard it elsewhere.
IIoA means Information Instead of Analysis
basically he is saying you are commentating.
@Togs that makes me want to ask you what was there to analyze when people were fluff posting and rvsing?
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yurkin said:
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@RE1031 Just because I see things differently from you doesn't make me scum. I still think grrr is being really scummy with the fps and that really doesn't help in this setup. Togs I wish he would respond back to me on what IIoA means because i haven't heard it elsewhere.

Information instead of analysis.

Like stating or giving an overview of the current situation instead of real behavioral analysis and etc.
How do you feel about my Amai read compared to Togs and RE's reasoning for their votes?
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Aug 24, 2017 8:53 AM

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Right now I feel like RE just refuses to see my point a bit and maybe it's a site play clash, but I want her @RE1031 to tell me about her read of togs.
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Unofficial Vote Count 1.9

TheConquerer (4): yurkin, AbuHumaid, logic340, grrr
grrr (2): AlbertinoDias, Amai_yume
Togs (1): TheConquerer
Amai_yume (5): Togs, RE1031, ironace, Labs, Floofs

Players not voting: reiynii


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Aug 24, 2017 8:55 AM

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Labs said:
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1. Your vote makes you super crazy
2. I agree more with you than Floofs because he just seems unwilling to work with us and that's what an IC is supposed to do. Share his reads and we share ours and think the ones we agree on.
3. Seriously your vote isn't going to help him see it any differently


Copy pasta, accurate.
How is this copy pasta?
Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM

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Amai_yume said:
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Copy pasta, accurate.
How is this copy pasta?
I think Labs is agreeing with you by saying "copy paste, accurate."
he is saying he is copying and pasting your post because it is accurate.

edit: which makes me wonder about the vote on you?
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Aug 24, 2017 8:58 AM

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If things keep going this way TheConq will vote amai out of self pres, Amai will vote TheConq out of self pres and it will be up to Albertino and Reiynii to decide the lynch.
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Aug 24, 2017 9:02 AM

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Vote Count 1.10

TheConquerer (4): yurkin, AbuHumaid, logic340, grrr
grrr (2): AlbertinoDias, Amai_yume
Togs (1): TheConquerer
Amai_yume (5): Togs, RE1031, ironace, Labs, Floofs

Players not voting: reiynii


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Tied votes will result in no lynch on Day 1.
The activity rule is 3 meaningful posts every 24 hours, I'm going to poke those who have not met this quota today.




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I actually want togs to talk more as he voted me first. I'm going to relook at Conq too and I have work today which means my EoD posts will be quite spontaneous.
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ironace - Hasn't left the biggest impression but his vote is pressure and he is open to at least seeing what happens it seems. That being said nothing has pinged me for scum here from him.
RE1031 - Not liking her stance on Amai and her sheep of Togs vote. She is not trying to see it from any angle but scum which makes me feel like she has a target in mind rather than valid suspicions. I fell like I have shut down her argument with no reply as to why I am wrong.
TheConquerer - For not having done anything since my read came out I feel better about him than RE and Togs right now.
yurkin - Will need to look closer I am going to go slower with yurking this game.
logic340 - The guy who voted confirmed town? Lynch his ass
grrr - He's being grrr willing to give another phase to sort him out I guess.
AbuHumaid - Not getting the usual town vibes I have been getting of late. This is cause for concern.
reiynii - Nothing much to say here. If we at dropping dead weight then this is the place to vote.
Amai_yume - Strongest town read and I dare say she is playing a better game than me right now.
Togs - I do not like his vote at all as I do not see Amai's page 1 and 2 as IIoA. Glad I went back and checked that.
Floofs - Sheeps the vote after giving no reads. Great job IC.
Labs - Confused on why he is voting Amai right now. I will have to look over his posts.
AlbertinoDias (Albertino Dias) - Slight town vibes going to see if I get some Luna vibes.
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Floofs said:
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unvote:
Vote: TheConquerer

@Floofs I'll start small how do you feel about logic and theconq?
Logic is town, he's and wants outsole to work together
Theconq is defensive over a joke which gives me bad vibes. I don't like good wait and see approach. Could I inherited you in voting for him with us?


Logic is being weird. Call it a gut feel, but there is something off about you. I just can't put my finger on what that is yet. Not willing to lynch you today :D

Theconq is an acceptable lynch candidate. I don't like when people call things scummy, even if its just slightly scummy, and don't vote for them.

I like this amai train a little better though.

Vote: Amai_yume
I would just like to state if it isn't clear from earlier questions or answers that I have played this setup multiple times. My scum read on grrr is due to his fancy play claims which in this setup can hurt town because if he even said his role once in the claims he did, mafia can figure out with their own knowledge. We can't afford to joke much since this is also an easy setup to break. I will look at Conq's posts now.
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Look them over and see if you agree or disagree with the reasoning. Labs is a blank vote and from his posts I didn't get the feeling he was suspecting Amai but will look closer.
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Aug 24, 2017 9:19 AM

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logic340 said:
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Vote: TheConquerer

@Floofs I'll start small how do you feel about logic and theconq?
Logic is town, he's and wants outsole to work together
Theconq is defensive over a joke which gives me bad vibes. I don't like good wait and see approach. Could I inherited you in voting for him with us?

I swear we had the exact same scenario happen the last game where I pointed out my suspicions on you and everyone voted me :D

I need to read over and see whats happened.
I've been here way too long...
Aug 24, 2017 9:23 AM

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Labs said:
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Because I don't feel that confident in that read and other than him I probably would vote grrr because I don't think his fancy plays are helping much. Also I think he's more talk than solving too.

Vote:grrr


They can't help immediatly without others contributing to them.
Other than that, number crunching and bread-crumbing will nail some ass later on in the game..... do you fear this or something?
So I guess this is Labs reason which doesn't inspire a lot of faith, especially since he just sheeped grrr's Albert vote shorly before making this train the lead at 4-2 .
I dare say the posts quoted in the spoiler below feel like he is more suspicious of these people
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grrr said:
vote: the conqueror we have to save amai :S

Why do we have to save amai? -_-''

I've been here way too long...
Aug 24, 2017 9:25 AM

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Anyway I'm not voting Amai, having just two main lynch trains seems too simple and easy to hide behind. So I'm gonna keep my vote on Togs and if I'm lynched c'est la vie.
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Aug 24, 2017 9:26 AM

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TheConquerer said:
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Vote: TheConquerer

@Floofs I'll start small how do you feel about logic and theconq?
Logic is town, he's and wants outsole to work together
Theconq is defensive over a joke which gives me bad vibes. I don't like good wait and see approach. Could I inherited you in voting for him with us?

I swear we had the exact same scenario happen the last game where I pointed out my suspicions on you and everyone voted me :D

I need to read over and see whats happened.
At this point I think Togs is likely a better option than you are would you like to progress your read on him?
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TheConquerer said:
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vote: the conqueror we have to save amai :S

Why do we have to save amai? -_-''
Because Amai is the townies player in the game right now and has 5 votes on them. Please refer to posts [url=https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1654284&show=300#msg52055580]#327[/uel] and #328
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Anyway I'm not voting Amai, having just two main lynch trains seems too simple and easy to hide behind. So I'm gonna keep my vote on Togs and if I'm lynched c'est la vie.
Are you not voting Amai because you don't think she is scum or because you don't like having just two trains? I could almost see this as T/T leading trains but I need to see what you make of the happenings since you were last here.
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I read Conq and he seems ok for his responses to Logic. I don't think he's a good lynch today.
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Amai_yume said:
I read Conq and he seems ok for his responses to Logic. I don't think he's a good lynch today.
Will you vote Togs with TheConq and I.
unvote:
vote: Togs
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Aug 24, 2017 9:33 AM

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TheConquerer said:
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Vote: TheConquerer

@Floofs I'll start small how do you feel about logic and theconq?
Logic is town, he's and wants outsole to work together
Theconq is defensive over a joke which gives me bad vibes. I don't like good wait and see approach. Could I inherited you in voting for him with us?

I swear we had the exact same scenario happen the last game where I pointed out my suspicions on you and everyone voted me :D

I need to read over and see whats happened.
Do you think you could link that game for me or remind me which one it was? I would like to reference it. Also everyone voted Amai not you actually.
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Aug 24, 2017 9:34 AM

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@AbuHumaid talk to me about Togs. How do you feel about his vote on Amai?
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Aug 24, 2017 9:35 AM

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I will be back in a bit
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@RE1031 I would like your read on Togs please?
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Aug 24, 2017 9:44 AM

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logic340 said:
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I swear we had the exact same scenario happen the last game where I pointed out my suspicions on you and everyone voted me :D

I need to read over and see whats happened.
Do you think you could link that game for me or remind me which one it was? I would like to reference it. Also everyone voted Amai not you actually.

Bet hes refering to the morning after.
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logic340 said:
Are you not voting Amai because you don't think she is scum or because you don't like having just two trains? I could almost see this as T/T leading trains but I need to see what you make of the happenings since you were last here.

I just don't like the way its been so straightforward and yeah they also haven't seemed like scum.
It was the very last game we were in, this one.
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1635092


I've been here way too long...
Aug 24, 2017 9:45 AM

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AbuHumaid said:
@reiynii is there a reason you're not voting?
I meant to vote for you but I forgot!
Vote: Abu!
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AbuHumaid said:
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A simple no would suffice wouldn't it or is saying that going to reveal your role?
fine, no, I'm not the doctor
Why would you even answer this? Clearly, you don't have to listen to Logic and your reply at the beginning was just fine. Just because Logic is leading the town, doesn't mean you have to do what he says~ ^ ^)/
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Also, about the Floofs situation just for me to bring it up now since I am currently back reading but why would anybody for god vote for him. I understand where he is coming from, being put under pressure and all. Yes it's nice to have reads from a confirmed person but if that's the only thing that's effecting your voting ability then I don't think it's a very town thing for somebody to do.
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yurkin said:
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Do you think you could link that game for me or remind me which one it was? I would like to reference it. Also everyone voted Amai not you actually.

Bet hes refering to the morning after.
Thank you yurkin now I remember how that went down.
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reiynii said:
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fine, no, I'm not the doctor
Why would you even answer this? Clearly, you don't have to listen to Logic and your reply at the beginning was just fine. Just because Logic is leading the town, doesn't mean you have to do what he says~ ^ ^)/
Nope he doesn't he chose to plus I didn't say he had to do anything so don't make out to be a monster darling.
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logic340 said:
Nope he doesn't he chose to plus I didn't say he had to do anything so don't make out to be a monster darling.
Which is why I completely don't think he is town ^ ^
What an oddity. Why did you need him to confirm (and i say confirm in the vaguest sense) that he wasn't the doctor? Plus the fact that he gave up so soon gives me untownie feelings~
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reiynii said:
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@reiynii is there a reason you're not voting?
I meant to vote for you but I forgot!
Vote: Abu!
Why did you mean to vote for Abu?
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reiynii said:
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Nope he doesn't he chose to plus I didn't say he had to do anything so don't make out to be a monster darling.
Which is why I completely don't think he is town ^ ^
What an oddity. Why did you need him to confirm (and i say confirm in the vaguest sense) that he wasn't the doctor? Plus the fact that he gave up so soon gives me untownie feelings~
ok, I get this vote then. Why didn't you place a vote earlier? Did you mean to place one on Abu earlier but didn't?
Also with how many votes Amai has are you going to try and get people to vote abu with you because that is currently a nowhere land vote and I don't like those. Why not discuss Togs/Amai/grrr with us since those are the leading trains?
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TheConquerer said:
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Are you not voting Amai because you don't think she is scum or because you don't like having just two trains? I could almost see this as T/T leading trains but I need to see what you make of the happenings since you were last here.

I just don't like the way its been so straightforward and yeah they also haven't seemed like scum.
It was the very last game we were in, this one.
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1635092


I just read through it quickly you were pushing suspicion on grrr and zymf not me. At least to where I read on page 12? Do you remember what part of the game that happened?
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logic340 said:
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Information instead of analysis.

Like stating or giving an overview of the current situation instead of real behavioral analysis and etc.
How do you feel about my Amai read compared to Togs and RE's reasoning for their votes?

Havent looked at which post u are refering to in your iso.

Re's vote is a little weird or so to speak.

re #154 "and didn't make use of the extra information provided"

-i get the question about what was amai trying to accomplish but not how someone is supposed to make use of info about the set-up.

There is something that feels wrong in re's posts this game.
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@TheConquerer
So I have verified your reference and it isn't related to me. You and I were discussing why grrr couldn't be mafia there in my opinon. Your suspicions were on zymf then you 180'd to grrr you can reference this post to verify what I am saying is in fact true.
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Amai_yume said:
Right now I feel like RE just refuses to see my point a bit and maybe it's a site play clash, but I want her @RE1031 to tell me about her read of togs.

There is nothing to indicate he is scum to me, his play is not too different from his town game that I saw in SnK S2 (long absences), though that should be NAI. If anything, I like his vote on you.
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
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yurkin said:
logic340 said:
How do you feel about my Amai read compared to Togs and RE's reasoning for their votes?

Havent looked at which post u are refering to in your iso.

Re's vote is a little weird or so to speak.

re #154 "and didn't make use of the extra information provided"

-i get the question about what was amai trying to accomplish but not how someone is supposed to make use of info about the set-up.

There is something that feels wrong in re's posts this game.
page 1 and page 2 basically everything before Togs placed his vote.

I am glad I am not the only one who noticed. I don't like how she responded to me I have provided my reasons in the form of a two post ISO. I don't like how this train hit 5 votes in this game state it stinks. Also I don't like how rather than try to see it from my pov or from Amai's pov she just basically said it's all scummy.
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RE1031 said:
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Right now I feel like RE just refuses to see my point a bit and maybe it's a site play clash, but I want her @RE1031 to tell me about her read of togs.

There is nothing to indicate he is scum to me, his play is not too different from his town game that I saw in SnK S2 (long absences), though that should be NAI. If anything, I like his vote on you.
I don't know him, so you can't just put the same type of suspicion you would put on MAL people for suspecting grrr. I'm just telling you that what he is doing to me seems scummy because I have seen scum do that.
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RE1031 said:
Amai_yume said:
Right now I feel like RE just refuses to see my point a bit and maybe it's a site play clash, but I want her @RE1031 to tell me about her read of togs.

There is nothing to indicate he is scum to me, his play is not too different from his town game that I saw in SnK S2 (long absences), though that should be NAI. If anything, I like his vote on you.
His vote is garbage (imo).
Refute my read then go to post #327 and tell me why I am wrong about page 1 and 2

you know what...
Unvote:
Vote: RE1031
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Vote: TheConquerer

I don't like when players give weak reads and even defend them with weaker reasons.
Though I'm still not sure about him, I want to see more of him. Hence my vote

Btw what reads exactly? I cant recall theconq giving reads at that point of the game.
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Amai_yume said:
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There is nothing to indicate he is scum to me, his play is not too different from his town game that I saw in SnK S2 (long absences), though that should be NAI. If anything, I like his vote on you.
I don't know him, so you can't just put the same type of suspicion you would put on MAL people for suspecting grrr. I'm just telling you that what he is doing to me seems scummy because I have seen scum do that.
This is quite fair also you don't know about Tog's last game that she is referring to either.

@RE1031 please do an ISO on togs posts and see how you feel. I am not seeing a lot of effort going into sorting Togs but there is a lot of effort going into this lynch.
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yurkin said:
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Vote: TheConquerer

I don't like when players give weak reads and even defend them with weaker reasons.
Though I'm still not sure about him, I want to see more of him. Hence my vote

Btw what reads exactly? I cant recall theconq giving reads at that point of the game.
I believe he is referring to TheConq's early read on me where he said it was NAI then said it was scummy but never voted for me.
Edit: look at my everything theconq post you will see what he is referring to.
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@Ironace what is your read on Togs/RE10301/Grrrr
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TheConquerer (3): yurkin, AbuHumaid, grrr
grrr (2): AlbertinoDias, Amai_yume
Togs (1): TheConquerer
Amai_yume (5): Togs, RE1031, ironace, Labs, Floofs
AbuHumaid (1): reiynii
RE1031 (1): logic340

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logic340 said:
you can reference this post to verify what I am saying is in fact true.

But...in that post I'm actually defending myself for assuming you were scum, its literally the first thing I say... did you not see?

Anyway no point arguing over old games, phase change is in 30 mins right?
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OH I THOUGHT PHASE CHANGE WAS LATER IN THE DAY. WORK WON'T STOP ME and we have an hour and thirty minutes left.
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