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Aug 23, 2017 3:54 PM

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logic340 said:
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This is how I play. I also don't understand what you are getting at with this. Why would the vote of a confirmed town be something the the town needs?
Think about it what is the advantage to you being confirmed to us? We don't lynch you? Is that all you think we benefit from it? You are a sounding board even if we do not agree with what you do we know your intentions are townie motivated. Being confirmed town sucks I just did it in Eeveelution Mafia but I also lead the town to a victory which I haven't seen from many confirmed townies here. Zymf got a win in EEM due to me making a mistake. So I want you to help us as much as you can. You are confirmed town how do you feel you have helped us so far? Just because you are confirmed doesn't mean we should let you sit around and do nothing. We lost Rainbow Six with Karote being like that as Cong!town. I am not putting the burden of prophecy on you I am just asking you to help us by saying what is on your mind and using your greatest weapon your vote.

I would say we lost because town didn't know how to unite and vote. So I'll take this opportunity to emphasize the fact that 3 player trains are not okay. There is too much room for scum to change the votes in their favor, for town to accidentally mess with the votes, and it just feels bad to be lynching town with minimal votes - basically sums up to being nonconsensual.
logic, I might be sold on TheConquerer's train if quite a number of other players weren't guilty of lots of NAI posts as well. Labs' posts I'd say are NAI. reiynii's too. grrr even, though I'm more willing to give him benefit of the doubt. How do you feel about Amai_yume at the moment? Also reiynii? I've played two other games with rei and they were scum in both (for periods of times), and I'm sensing the same NAI, fluffy kind of posts from them.
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btw did not understand this, care to explain it??
" If I cannot get something close to a consensus (3 votes isn't close) then I will push for everyone to unvote and either lynch those who don't want to comply or have them vigged for shenanigans if the player flips town."
Aug 23, 2017 3:59 PM

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AlbertinoDias said:
btw did not understand this, care to explain it??
" If I cannot get something close to a consensus (3 votes isn't close) then I will push for everyone to unvote and either lynch those who don't want to comply or have them vigged for shenanigans if the player flips town."

Basically what happened in another game that recently ended. Two players vote sniped, and both ended up being town, but they were eventually mislynched. It's soooooo scummy and a pain to deal with so best to avoid it in general, but especially as town when it can let scum live and allows them to push a mislynch on you.
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Aug 23, 2017 4:01 PM

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RE1031 said:
AlbertinoDias said:
btw did not understand this, care to explain it??
" If I cannot get something close to a consensus (3 votes isn't close) then I will push for everyone to unvote and either lynch those who don't want to comply or have them vigged for shenanigans if the player flips town."

Basically what happened in another game that recently ended. Two players vote sniped, and both ended up being town, but they were eventually mislynched. It's soooooo scummy and a pain to deal with so best to avoid it in general, but especially as town when it can let scum live and allows them to push a mislynch on you.

ok ok, but... have them vigged for shenanigans, what does this mean?? :)
Aug 23, 2017 4:01 PM

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@Floofs What are your reads on everyone?
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AlbertinoDias said:
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Basically what happened in another game that recently ended. Two players vote sniped, and both ended up being town, but they were eventually mislynched. It's soooooo scummy and a pain to deal with so best to avoid it in general, but especially as town when it can let scum live and allows them to push a mislynch on you.

ok ok, but... have them vigged for shenanigans, what does this mean?? :)

shenanigans = vote sniping = voting for someone right before phase change = a big no no
vigged = vigilante shooting someone at night
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Aug 23, 2017 4:06 PM

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RE1031 said:
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ok ok, but... have them vigged for shenanigans, what does this mean?? :)

shenanigans = vote sniping = voting for someone right before phase change = a big no no
vigged = vigilante shooting someone at night

understood!! ty very much
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@RE1031 thank you for explaining that while I was tending to my other game. I will be on the road for a few but after that I am here for the night. I swear I don't want 50% of the post count but I will if that is what it takes to solve this game.
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Aug 23, 2017 4:52 PM

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Amai_yume said:
@Floofs What are your reads on everyone?

Can you explain #219 further?
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Aug 23, 2017 5:25 PM

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Amai_yume said:
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This is how I play. I also don't understand what you are getting at with this. Why would the vote of a confirmed town be something the the town needs?
It's a support thing because your confirmed by the mod, so others will take your reads in high esteem


Being a confirmed town means that my reads are genuine from a town mindset. That doesn't mean that my reads are correct. Everyone should be engaging others and making their own reads. Town should be doing this automatically with or without my reads.
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AlbertinoDias said:
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shenanigans = vote sniping = voting for someone right before phase change = a big no no
vigged = vigilante shooting someone at night

understood!! ty very much
Now that you understand how do you feel about my proposal if things continue along like this for today?
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Floofs said:
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It's a support thing because your confirmed by the mod, so others will take your reads in high esteem


Being a confirmed town means that my reads are genuine from a town mindset. That doesn't mean that my reads are correct. Everyone should be engaging others and making their own reads. Town should be doing this automatically with or without my reads.
Please stop being like that. You are being an anti-town confirmed town right now.
Honestly with no leads if we have to lynch someone it should be you since you are basically vanilla and are doing nothing. I know this sounds harsh but you have some weight on you as conf!town and you aren't helping us any right now. I would like you to give some reads and help your fellow townies please.
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Unvote:
vote: @Floofs

I am serious as a heart attack.
What are your current reads?
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Aug 23, 2017 5:42 PM

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logic340 said:
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This is how I play. I also don't understand what you are getting at with this. Why would the vote of a confirmed town be something the the town needs?
Think about it what is the advantage to you being confirmed to us? We don't lynch you? Is that all you think we benefit from it? You are a sounding board even if we do not agree with what you do we know your intentions are townie motivated. Being confirmed town sucks I just did it in Eeveelution Mafia but I also lead the town to a victory which I haven't seen from many confirmed townies here. Zymf got a win in EEM due to me making a mistake. So I want you to help us as much as you can. You are confirmed town how do you feel you have helped us so far? Just because you are confirmed doesn't mean we should let you sit around and do nothing. We lost Rainbow Six with Karote being like that as Cong!town. I am not putting the burden of prophecy on you I am just asking you to help us by saying what is on your mind and using your greatest weapon your vote.


Lynching me would be a pretty dumb idea lol. Its best if we leave whether I live or die in the hands of scum. Also, I'm not bored. I don't think of my role as confirmed town as a leadership role. If anything, I should be encourage others to engage with others and makes reads, so you can fault me with that, but I don't think I should be directing the town to who or who not we should lynch. Town needs to work together and come to the conclusion on who to lynch. One person shouldn't decide that. I have been abstaining from giving reads because I want people to come to their own conclusion about others. When I feel that enough players have done that I will give my own.
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Floofs said:
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Think about it what is the advantage to you being confirmed to us? We don't lynch you? Is that all you think we benefit from it? You are a sounding board even if we do not agree with what you do we know your intentions are townie motivated. Being confirmed town sucks I just did it in Eeveelution Mafia but I also lead the town to a victory which I haven't seen from many confirmed townies here. Zymf got a win in EEM due to me making a mistake. So I want you to help us as much as you can. You are confirmed town how do you feel you have helped us so far? Just because you are confirmed doesn't mean we should let you sit around and do nothing. We lost Rainbow Six with Karote being like that as Cong!town. I am not putting the burden of prophecy on you I am just asking you to help us by saying what is on your mind and using your greatest weapon your vote.


Lynching me would be a pretty dumb idea lol. Its best if we leave whether I live or die in the hands of scum. Also, I'm not bored. I don't think of my role as confirmed town as a leadership role. If anything, I should be encourage others to engage with others and makes reads, so you can fault me with that, but I don't think I should be directing the town to who or who not we should lynch. Town needs to work together and come to the conclusion on who to lynch. One person shouldn't decide that. I have been abstaining from giving reads because I want people to come to their own conclusion about others. When I feel that enough players have done that I will give my own.
No one said to direct anything. All we have done is asked you for reads and to place a vote. Both you seem to be refusing to this point. You are not our leader you are one of us. If you are not going to carry your weight then why shouldn't we lynch you. I don't think lynching anti-town town is that silly I think town who is confirmed not doing anything is silly. Do you see where I am coming from or do I need to continue with this??
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@Floofs stop thinking about being lynched and think about why I would do this. What are you doing that would elicit this type of response from someone knows that your lynch is not possible here and that this is going to bring me so much shit? Like please help us and stop being like this. Please give reads and share your thoughts. If I make up 40+% of the post count again I am going to be so upset and it really isn't fair to our hosts. Please do your part.
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logic340 said:
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Being a confirmed town means that my reads are genuine from a town mindset. That doesn't mean that my reads are correct. Everyone should be engaging others and making their own reads. Town should be doing this automatically with or without my reads.
Please stop being like that. You are being an anti-town confirmed town right now.
Honestly with no leads if we have to lynch someone it should be you since you are basically vanilla and are doing nothing. I know this sounds harsh but you have some weight on you as conf!town and you aren't helping us any right now. I would like you to give some reads and help your fellow townies please.


I don't think I'm being anti-town. Town works best when they work together. One person shouldn't control everything. Voting me is just being petty and anti-town. Enjoy trying to get people to join you on lynching me. It's not going to change how I play. Why would you waste your time on what I'm doing when I am confirmed? Wouldn't pressuring others who have not being giving reads be more productive? What you are doing is not helping town.
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##vote: @Amai_yume

Okay, serious vote to kick things off. Several of her posts have just been IIoA or fluff, call it nitpicking but I get a vibe like keeping up appearances is more important than driving the game forward. The questions she asked have all been very simple to answer too.. It feels kind of like she’s present in the thread without having a presence, if that makes sense.
What makes them worse than TheConquerer to that point?
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so this game isnt really going anywhere....and no lynch or tie would be in mafia's favor right?(due to presence of being killed randomly is such a situation were to occur)
I was pretty sure there wasn't a no-lynch in this game, right? I have to re-read the mechanics of the game, since I'm getting a bit confused now !
We can get a no lynch if no one votes or there is a tie vote.
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RE1031 said:
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@Floofs What are your reads on everyone?

Can you explain #219 further?
He lays his entire thoughts out there similar to what Luna was doing in Eeveelution. I find that scum tend to misinterpret posts and the posts tend to be vague in context.
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Floofs said:
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Please stop being like that. You are being an anti-town confirmed town right now.
Honestly with no leads if we have to lynch someone it should be you since you are basically vanilla and are doing nothing. I know this sounds harsh but you have some weight on you as conf!town and you aren't helping us any right now. I would like you to give some reads and help your fellow townies please.


I don't think I'm being anti-town. Town works best when they work together. One person shouldn't control everything. Voting me is just being petty and anti-town. Enjoy trying to get people to join you on lynching me. It's not going to change how I play. Why would you waste your time on what I'm doing when I am confirmed? Wouldn't pressuring others who have not being giving reads be more productive? What you are doing is not helping town.
How do you feel that you are working with us? I don't feel like you are working with us and I am one of the people you say you need to work with? I have not asked you to lead, I have actually assumed that position because no one else would. Not sure how you interpret things the way you do because it's way off from how I am currently seeing these two things.
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Floofs said:
Wouldn't pressuring others who have not being giving reads be more productive? What you are doing is not helping town.
This right here is just a slap in my face. Do you not see me pressuring people by voting while you sit back doing nada? Who are you the confirmed town pressuring? If confirmed town wont do shit why should anyone else? I am asking you to evaluate your own game play right now against what you are saying others should do. Again I am not trying to be rude but you are being a hypocrite telling me to push others when you are not doing it yourself. I don't want or need a confirmed town who refuses to work with the town they are supposed to win with.
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@Amai_yume, @yurkin, @RE1031 I know my vote is shit but is my argument with Floofs wrong? I need another perspective.
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logic340 said:
@Amai_yume, @yurkin, @RE1031 I know my vote is shit but is my argument with Floofs wrong? I need another perspective.

1. Your vote makes you super crazy
2. I agree more with you than Floofs because he just seems unwilling to work with us and that's what an IC is supposed to do. Share his reads and we share ours and think the ones we agree on.
3. Seriously your vote isn't going to help him see it any differently
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logic340 said:
@Floofs stop thinking about being lynched and think about why I would do this. What are you doing that would elicit this type of response from someone knows that your lynch is not possible here and that this is going to bring me so much shit? Like please help us and stop being like this. Please give reads and share your thoughts. If I make up 40+% of the post count again I am going to be so upset and it really isn't fair to our hosts. Please do your part.


I'm not worried about being lynched. I don't think you are understanding where I am going with this. One player should not be the reason town wins or loses a game. Let's take you for example. You don't have to make up 40% of the post count. That is your choice, but it's not fair to make you do it every game or expect you to do it. There is no reason that one person should carry or lead the town, yet it seems to happen that way in most games here and it shouldn't. Town shouldn't need one person to keep town afloat. Town should be working together of their own accord without being told or directed to. Also, there is the possibility that scum could be the one taking the leadership role.
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unvote:
Vote: TheConquerer

@Floofs I'll start small how do you feel about logic and theconq?
Logic is town, he's and wants outsole to work together
Theconq is defensive over a joke which gives me bad vibes. I don't like good wait and see approach. Could I inherited you in voting for him with us?
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logic340 said:
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I don't think I'm being anti-town. Town works best when they work together. One person shouldn't control everything. Voting me is just being petty and anti-town. Enjoy trying to get people to join you on lynching me. It's not going to change how I play. Why would you waste your time on what I'm doing when I am confirmed? Wouldn't pressuring others who have not being giving reads be more productive? What you are doing is not helping town.
How do you feel that you are working with us? I don't feel like you are working with us and I am one of the people you say you need to work with? I have not asked you to lead, I have actually assumed that position because no one else would. Not sure how you interpret things the way you do because it's way off from how I am currently seeing these two things.


No one asked for you to assume that position. You do it almost every game when you shouldn't have to. I will give my reads and thoughts when I feel the time is right.
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Instead of arguing with floofs about how to play IC, he will give us reads when ready. When he gives it then we change things if we want. @logic340 What do you think of this?
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Amai_yume said:
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Can you explain #219 further?
He lays his entire thoughts out there similar to what Luna was doing in Eeveelution. I find that scum tend to misinterpret posts and the posts tend to be vague in context.

But doesn't that make his post NAI? Yes, if he decided to misinterpret posts, that'd be something worth noting, but I don't see how that one post alone makes him townie. While I do find his questions as a sign of being engaged and eager to help as town, I'm curious because I've seen your kind of response coming from scum (labeling something as townie when it's NAI, at least from my POV).
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Floofs said:
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@Floofs stop thinking about being lynched and think about why I would do this. What are you doing that would elicit this type of response from someone knows that your lynch is not possible here and that this is going to bring me so much shit? Like please help us and stop being like this. Please give reads and share your thoughts. If I make up 40+% of the post count again I am going to be so upset and it really isn't fair to our hosts. Please do your part.


I'm not worried about being lynched. I don't think you are understanding where I am going with this. One player should not be the reason town wins or loses a game. Let's take you for example. You don't have to make up 40% of the post count. That is your choice, but it's not fair to make you do it every game or expect you to do it. There is no reason that one person should carry or lead the town, yet it seems to happen that way in most games here and it shouldn't. Town shouldn't need one person to keep town afloat. Town should be working together of their own accord without being told or directed to. Also, there is the possibility that scum could be the one taking the leadership role.

As true as I want this to be, one player can influence whether town wins or loses. Strangely enough, logic's insane vote kind of makes me town lean on him, because I do see where he's coming from. Basically, by you, confirmed town, providing reads, scum have less wriggle room to either accuse you of being scum or dismiss your reads (which may be accurate) by throwing out the possibility you are scum. Less wriggle room is always good. I believe innocent child in Eevee mafia contributed to town's win a lot. Though it was more powerful in that set up with less players.
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RE1031 said:
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He lays his entire thoughts out there similar to what Luna was doing in Eeveelution. I find that scum tend to misinterpret posts and the posts tend to be vague in context.

But doesn't that make his post NAI? Yes, if he decided to misinterpret posts, that'd be something worth noting, but I don't see how that one post alone makes him townie. While I do find his questions as a sign of being engaged and eager to help as town, I'm curious because I've seen your kind of response coming from scum (labeling something as townie when it's NAI, at least from my POV).
NAI for me is when something containing real life or a funny little quirk that shows up for that person. For instance I have work every Monday/Thursday from 3-7pm and can never post during it. That is NAI
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Amai_yume said:
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But doesn't that make his post NAI? Yes, if he decided to misinterpret posts, that'd be something worth noting, but I don't see how that one post alone makes him townie. While I do find his questions as a sign of being engaged and eager to help as town, I'm curious because I've seen your kind of response coming from scum (labeling something as townie when it's NAI, at least from my POV).
NAI for me is when something containing real life or a funny little quirk that shows up for that person. For instance I have work every Monday/Thursday from 3-7pm and can never post during it. That is NAI

NAI for me is when something can equally come from town or scum. However, when NAI posts dominate a player's contribution to the game, I'll find that scummy.
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RE1031 said:
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NAI for me is when something containing real life or a funny little quirk that shows up for that person. For instance I have work every Monday/Thursday from 3-7pm and can never post during it. That is NAI

NAI for me is when something can equally come from town or scum. However, when NAI posts dominate a player's contribution to the game, I'll find that scummy.
I don't think that post is NAI because it has clear details and he is genuine imo. I'm disagreeing with what you said.
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Amai_yume said:
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NAI for me is when something can equally come from town or scum. However, when NAI posts dominate a player's contribution to the game, I'll find that scummy.
I don't think that post is NAI because it has clear details and he is genuine imo. I'm disagreeing with what you said.

Perspective, possibly.
If I'm correct, you're currently suspecting Abu. Why not go after him (especially now that we have less than 24 hours in the phase)? While tunneling isn't always the most effective way of hunting scum, even if they are town, it can clear up any bad feelings you have about them, which would be difficult to accomplish doing otherwise.
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RE1031 said:
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I don't think that post is NAI because it has clear details and he is genuine imo. I'm disagreeing with what you said.

Perspective, possibly.
If I'm correct, you're currently suspecting Abu. Why not go after him (especially now that we have less than 24 hours in the phase)? While tunneling isn't always the most effective way of hunting scum, even if they are town, it can clear up any bad feelings you have about them, which would be difficult to accomplish doing otherwise.
Because I don't feel that confident in that read and other than him I probably would vote grrr because I don't think his fancy plays are helping much. Also I think he's more talk than solving too.

Vote:grrr
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@ironace did you role scum


God...I wish....DAMMIT!!!
At this point even sk is appealing :(



Would exaggerate/10?
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someone explain why abu did what he did? Is he trying to do what roz did in the aot game?


Not too much of a decent explanation at this point, but as to whether or not he's trying to copy that kind of shit, nope.... there's not really any tug at anything in particular here.
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The gif makes me feel like this is a little bit exaggerated. I expect mafia to overexacgerated little things but this can come from town.



these are my exact feelings tbh, but i dont recall mafia ever exaggerating...


Have you never seen mafia before or something?
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@grrr we need a fake claim from you to generate some discussion.


I am one shot vigilante and I am shooting logic tonight.


Bout time, seems half true doe.
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3 things guys;
1--> @Logic340 , care to elaborate on the previous post?? so i can understand better what you're trying to say, cause i have 0 clues...
2--> can someone link me where all the things like, [bold, spoiler, and stuff]
3--> why are people claiming already, you were talking about mass claiming and stuff but i though it was a bad thing from the #75 and #84, and if people start to claim it could lead to a massive claim, because of the fake claims, people would be forced to claim in succession... isn't that bad then??
(last post seen:#165)


You wut?
Also.... how new to this game as a whole might you be?
While it's not currently optimal, mass claim would throw scum off, not town.... as they'd have to adapt at an alarming rate and once they say something, especially if it's before a good chunk of town there's not really any going back thanks to our friend numbers.
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I'm back... I went to take a shower...


oh...
ok....


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RE1031 said:
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3 things guys;
1--> @Logic340 , care to elaborate on the previous post?? so i can understand better what you're trying to say, cause i have 0 clues...
2--> can someone link me where all the things like, [bold, spoiler, and stuff]
3--> why are people claiming already, you were talking about mass claiming and stuff but i though it was a bad thing from the #75 and #84, and if people start to claim it could lead to a massive claim, because of the fake claims, people would be forced to claim in succession... isn't that bad then??
(last post seen:#165)

Fake claiming can generate raw (not faked) reactions, and from there, we can analyze who's scum or not. Though usually, it's more fun than anything :P
Given that counterclaiming most likely will not catch scum here, do not seriously claim unless you're about to be lynched.


This is also a thing, though not as prominent as it would otherwise be as per set-up.
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TheConquerer (3): yurkin, AbuHumaid, logic340
reiynii (1): Labs
grrr (2): AlbertinoDias, Amai_yume
Togs (2): TheConquerer, grrr
Amai_yume (2): Togs, RE1031

Players not voting: ironace, reiynii, Floofs


Mod Notes: Tied votes will result in no lynch on Day 1.


Aug 24, 2017 12:20 AM

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reiynii said:
AbuHumaid said:
@yurkin do you have any early reads? What do you think about Labs?
Early reads are so bad D: It's like setting someone up for a trap so that you can then blame them for having weak reads and bad reasoning (#140 !). I mean, who has accurate or good reads when there's only 4 pages anyway?


Stab or low rate white knight?
Aug 24, 2017 12:22 AM

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grrr said:
@yurkin do not trust reiny about his husbands Everything he says is a lie!!!


It all seems accurate to me :S
Aug 24, 2017 12:23 AM

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grrr said:
vote: Dias


Sounds aight
Vote: Dias
Aug 24, 2017 12:23 AM

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Labs said:
ironace said:



these are my exact feelings tbh, but i dont recall mafia ever exaggerating...


Have you never seen mafia before or something?



I have, but never exaggerate. Well, i am lacking in experience so i may be wrong.
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@floofs, both you and logic have some solid points but im slightly on logic's side rn. Even if you are a confirmed townie it doesnt have to stop you from talking at all. Give us some insights as to who you think is acting scummy. Its upto the rest of the town to make of what you share with us. It is indeed a team game, but if you dont talk, are you not being anti town?
All im asking is for you to share your thoughts.

ok so everyone is NAI so far but i dont recall amai defending herself when she was voted.(was she? If yes then remind me please)
It doesnt seem like she cares so much.And her later posts arent giving me much to go on either :/ So for now
Vote:Amai_yume

I will change it if i deem she is not worthy of a lynch today.
Aug 24, 2017 12:25 AM

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Labs said:
grrr said:
vote: Dias


Sounds aight
Vote: Dias


.....
why?
Aug 24, 2017 12:25 AM

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grrr said:
vote: togs
claim or die ...


RIP, didn't last.
Aug 24, 2017 12:30 AM

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logic340 said:


Particular focus, less particular actions.
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