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Aug 1, 2017 9:54 AM

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Before I drop off the face of the Earth for 5 hours. @the_pyromaani where the fuck are you and why should we leave you alone. @lucianroy, what do you think of the early rushed votes on Abu?
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LucianRoy (2): Gwendolly, Shinichi-kun
AbuHumaid (4): wen294, SuzakuTsubasa, aa-dono, Zymf
aa-dono (1): lastwhisper31

Not voting (5): Sleipnirr, The_Pyromaani, AbuHumaid, LucianRoy, AlbertinoDias

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Aug 1, 2017 10:26 AM

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Lucian has definitely alot to explain now.
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Aug 1, 2017 10:32 AM

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Sometimes you can be right for all the wrong reasons, and wrong for all the right reasons. It goes both ways.

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lastwhisper31 said:

I'm loving the analysis I'm seeing from wisp this game, but it's still a bit unclear what he's taking away from dono here. I think he marks her as a scum-lean, correct? What's your current read on Dono?

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ironace said:
WHO DAFAQ SAID IT WAS MY 5TH GAME?😅
It's my 2nd game.

So it was misinformation.

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Zymf said:
I do agree that Red_Salmon is not bering very clear about what his actual read on LucianRoy is, but I honestly don't see what's so bad about it, so in general, I'm a bit put off by all this.

You've appeared to have missed the reasoning that everyone sheeped later in the phase. Nobody sheeped me off of those questions.

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@Wisp, what's your read on Tsubasa's 846?

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Can anyone bring up that post where Zymf said he read ironace as town?
His vote was possibly the worst on the train.

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ironace said:
Guys, please check out shin and abu.Those two seem to be the most scummy.Next is lucian.

Surprisingly good suggestions for a dead person.

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ironace said:
@wen294,
I said i wouldnt ''mind'' lynching lucian d3 as he would be the most scummy if red was indeed town. But my wording leaves space for one to think that if there is some reasoning that lucian is not scum or that theres a better person to lynch then i would do just that

This is why I hate people who line-up lynchs.

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Gwendolly said:
Shinichi-Kun said:
I don't really have time to explain my own reasons, but I liked lucians reasons enough to be ok with iron as a counter train and as a lynch

You're willing to lynch him for the same reason as you were willing to lynch salmon. Based off on a single post from ironace that looked scummy enough for lucian. What is this?

Gwen brings up a great question in this post because no one shin has pushed this game feels like he made original reasoning for pushing them.

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Gwendolly said:
vote:lucianroy Because I'm wondering who he's going to sheep now or if he'll just go straight for Abu

For what reasoning are you voting me?

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Zymf said:
I haven't read the end of Day 2 yet, but I have scum leans on Lucian, Abu and Albertino (Suzaku). I am VERY much interested in hearing Lucian's role, but I still have more reason to suspect the two others.

Same question as Gwen basically, why do you read me scum?
I'm not claiming.

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Zymf said:
Oh right, sorry @SuzakuTsubasa (Do you prefer to be called Suzaku or Tsubasa ^^?)

Vote: AbuHumaid I might as well place my vote here for the time being...

Zymf is actually one of my scummier reads atm.
Things don't add up around his slot.
He townread Ironace, but obviously he didn't believe that much in his read because he ended up voting him for my reasoning. Now he's pushing someone who's inactive?

Vote: Zymf

Very interested in hearing why I'm a scumlean of his now.

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Gwendolly said:
SuzakuTsubasa said:

I don't remember seeing Lucian sheep, or maybe I missed something.


Are you kidding me? That's what he did the two last day phases xD Plus he said it himself

I'd recommend you refer to a post on that one because I remember saying nothing of the sort. *nvm after readin 971

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Gwendolly said:
Shinichi-Kun said:


Im confused on why you call what lucian is doing sheeping, hes provided reasons for all the High Priority trains.


He finds the smallest clue and makes a big elephant out of it. Yes, I did find ironace slightly scummy, but it didnt make sense to lynch him that day.

You should revisit my analysis of 543.
That was solid reasoning imo, all the right reasons, on all the wrong people.

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Shinichi-Kun said:
Honestly if we want to figure out lucian putting him to like L3 would give some good results to figuring out his alignment, rather not L2 since I dont want him to just get blantly hammered.

Vote:Lucian

Plus we need a countertrain badly

Ohh, this makes a lot of sense. So the guy defending me 20 posts prior now wants to build a countertrain on me, hmm. That makes a lot of sense.

Shinichi-Kun said:
Zymf said:
The mafia definitely took this post into consideration when planning their Night Kill. What to make of it is hard to tell...
My bet is that either some of them are mafia or the mafia is someone who is completely unrelated to Salmon (didn't vote for salmon, didn't build a case on salmon and didn't defend salmon).

I haven't read the end of Day 2 yet, but I have scum leans on Lucian, Abu and Albertino (Suzaku). I am VERY much interested in hearing Lucian's role, but I still have more reason to suspect the two others.


Im sure its someone related to salmon, and fear got the best of them. I am confused as to why you quote a message that shows Salmon wanted to iso me, yet in your post you don't mention me at all. I'm more inclined to believe it's abu, I still don't see what the others are seeing in Lucian. As for suzaku I'll see what he posts in this phase before I decide anything.


Yeah, that vote makes a lot of sense to me.

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aa-dono said:
These easy defenses on Abu makes me even more comfortable with my vote.

People I'm alright with lynching this phase: Zymf and Abu.

I don't like Zymf's reads.
I don't get his townread on Ironace, and although that's proven true, it feels easy.
Same goes his scumread.

I'm probably not one to say since I don't provide mountains of analytical posts. Anyway, his votes feels opportunistic. If he's certain of Abu as scum, why don't he use this early phase more for sorting out Lucian? @Zymf

Edit: @Gwendolly Just realized you asked.

Aye, I'm okay with people voting Abu to sort him, I am not okay with an eventual Abu lynch. He's best left for PoE after we nab 1 scum and re-read.

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lastwhisper31 said:
Before I drop off the face of the Earth for 5 hours. @the_pyromaani where the fuck are you and why should we leave you alone. @lucianroy, what do you think of the early rushed votes on Abu?

If you want my actual opinion it involves me getting townvibes off of Abu for his response to my 1 question he answered yesterday.

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It's scummy how Zymf votes Abu, and simultaneously asks me to claim, yet doesn't push me.

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Gwendolly said:
Lucian has definitely alot to explain now.

What did you have in mind?
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Aug 1, 2017 10:43 AM

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Basically, Scum right now are Zymf and Shin.

Town block is me, Last, Wen, Gwen, and Dono.

The rest haven't done anything exceptionally impressionable for me to get a clear read on them.
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Aug 1, 2017 10:49 AM

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Last scum could be Tsubasa, but that's a hunch.
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Aug 1, 2017 11:03 AM

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lastwhisper31 said:
Before I drop off the face of the Earth for 5 hours. @the_pyromaani where the fuck are you and why should we leave you alone. @lucianroy, what do you think of the early rushed votes on Abu?


Why the fuck you leave me alone? Hm?
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Aug 1, 2017 11:37 AM

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@lucianroy
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For what reasoning are you voting me?
Gwendolly said:
Lucian has definitely alot to explain now.

What did you have in mind?


^For this reason. Since we know ironace and salmon are town now and that you intended to lynch both of them. You were admitting your mistakes but it was more like a "oh well, shit happens." Not too sure if I'm buying that. But salmons death would make more sense to me if they were willing to spite you for that and I like your current proceeding right now. So yea...
You're making more sense than Shinichi right now tho. Your single post has satisfied me already lol if you're scum I'll take off my hat for you

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Aug 1, 2017 11:39 AM

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The_Pyromaani said:
lastwhisper31 said:
Before I drop off the face of the Earth for 5 hours. @the_pyromaani where the fuck are you and why should we leave you alone. @lucianroy, what do you think of the early rushed votes on Abu?


Why the fuck you leave me alone? Hm?


What? Seriously dude. You're worse than abu...
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Aug 1, 2017 11:54 AM

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LucianRoy said:
Last scum could be Tsubasa, but that's a hunch.


Care to elaborate? Or you gonna play the careful card now?
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Aug 1, 2017 12:04 PM

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Gwendolly said:
LucianRoy said:
Last scum could be Tsubasa, but that's a hunch.


Care to elaborate? Or you gonna play the careful card now?

That's the scum read I'm most unsure of.
It ties into how I felt togs was trying to pocket me in the early game, and he gave what felt like an easy townread on Last at the time just before a good number of players, including me, started to gang up on him. Doesn't read like the mindset I had, nor the mindset Suzune had.
Tsubasa hasn't really done much, so Idk.
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Aug 1, 2017 12:15 PM

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LucianRoy said:
Gwendolly said:


Care to elaborate? Or you gonna play the careful card now?

That's the scum read I'm most unsure of.
It ties into how I felt togs was trying to pocket me in the early game, and he gave what felt like an easy townread on Last at the time just before a good number of players, including me, started to gang up on him. Doesn't read like the mindset I had, nor the mindset Suzune had.
Tsubasa hasn't really done much, so Idk.
I think it's time I released some mechanical info, better time then ever imo. Either when I get home or when I get my break.
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Aug 1, 2017 12:15 PM

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Wow it's a beautiful day out. If I come back and haven't run 5k, lynch me.
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LucianRoy (1): Shinichi-kun
AbuHumaid (4): wen294, SuzakuTsubasa, aa-dono, Zymf
aa-dono (1): lastwhisper31
zymf (1): LucianRoy

Not voting (5): Sleipnirr, The_Pyromaani, AbuHumaid, AlbertinoDias, Gwendolly

Notes: with 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch today.

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Aug 1, 2017 2:42 PM

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aa-dono said:
@Zymf Why is Lucian a scumlean?
LucianRoy said:
Same question as Gwen basically, why do you read me scum?
I'm not claiming.
He created the trains on both ironace and Red_Salmon and was wrong about them. He has been very much controlling the entire game, and normally people shouldn't be blamed for that, especially not Lucian who is always very controlling. But in this game I've felt that he is overdoing it. Nowhere have I seen a read from him that is "un-justified" by the "rules of scumhunting" or any "gut feelings", so I feel that he might have taken on the leadership role in an attempt to keep it all the way to the end while misleading town in a very "convincing" matter.

The last game I believe he played or at least that he played with me was The Morning After where Logic and Lucian sorta shared the leadership role and had many discussions back and fourth. In that game they were both town and maybe it's because my own alignment has changed (was TPR, now town), but somehow he feels more uptight in this game. I remember he made a short post long ago where he said he wanted to take a break after this game because he was overworking himself, and when I read it I thougth maybe he is actively trying to make us think that he is still the very pro-town, super active, logically-thinking LucianRoy as last game?.. as scum?

One would think that it's wierd why he then decided to kill Red_Salmon, since that would clearly point back to himself (especially after #900). But Lucian is smart enough to play with our heads like that (I think?).

This is all just a vague feeling I've had in the back of my mind and I haven't yet looked into specific posts to further investigate if my theory holds any water. But it is definitely something I will look out for and I'm interested if anyone feel the same way or it's just me?

Time to properly back-read for a bit...
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Gwendolly said:
You gonna vote disappear for 24 hours and then place your vote last minute again?
You shouldn't expect much from me in this game tbh. I try to be as active as I can, but I am quite busy IRL and when I'm not busy I'm tired. I even stated my activity might be spotty when I signed up. So yes, expect more lazy votes, long waiting times and maybe some disorientation ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Zymf said:
aa-dono said:
@Zymf Why is Lucian a scumlean?
LucianRoy said:
Same question as Gwen basically, why do you read me scum?
I'm not claiming.
He created the trains on both ironace and Red_Salmon and was wrong about them. He has been very much controlling the entire game, and normally people shouldn't be blamed for that, especially not Lucian who is always very controlling. But in this game I've felt that he is overdoing it. Nowhere have I seen a read from him that is "un-justified" by the "rules of scumhunting" or any "gut feelings", so I feel that he might have taken on the leadership role in an attempt to keep it all the way to the end while misleading town in a very "convincing" matter.

I'm going to call bull on that.

The last game I believe he played or at least that he played with me was The Morning After where Logic and Lucian sorta shared the leadership role and had many discussions back and fourth. In that game they were both town and maybe it's because my own alignment has changed (was TPR, now town), but somehow he feels more uptight in this game.

I'm also going to call that bull.

I remember he made a short post long ago where he said he wanted to take a break after this game because he was overworking himself, and when I read it I thougth maybe he is actively trying to make us think that he is still the very pro-town, super active, logically-thinking LucianRoy as last game?.. as scum?

Tbf, I was sad that scum killed Suzune early because this is the first game we got a chance to play together in a while. We go way back.

One would think that it's wierd why he then decided to kill Red_Salmon, since that would clearly point back to himself (especially after #900). But Lucian is smart enough to play with our heads like that (I think?).

Wifom.

And from this, I conclude Zymf is scum.
This is not a clear perception of my meta, he has no sample-size on my games and is focusing on one example, he's not referencing practically any of my behavior from the morning after, (minus my strong play as town?), and this feels mostly like he's pushing for tonal reasoning I find unsubstantial. He also undercuts his argument by giving disclaimers such as this for example: "In that game they were both town and maybe it's because my own alignment has changed (was TPR, now town), but somehow he feels more uptight in this game." Thus, he's not confident in his reasoning, much like his read on Ironace iirc?
The "This is all a vague feeling I've had in the back of my mind" thing also undercuts the entire argument.
Also, Wifom logic.
Yeah, that's bull.
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@lucianroy I wrote an iso on you lol. I need to clean it up and I'll post it around 8pm. It will only have day 1 interactions because u made so many good posts and I'll have part 2 of the iso l8r tonight. I also want to post my PR findings. I'll be home soon.
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LucianRoy said:
And from this, I conclude Zymf is scum.
This is not a clear perception of my meta, he has no sample-size on my games and is focusing on one example, he's not referencing practically any of my behavior from the morning after, (minus my strong play as town?), and this feels mostly like he's pushing for tonal reasoning I find unsubstantial. He also undercuts his argument by giving disclaimers such as this for example: "In that game they were both town and maybe it's because my own alignment has changed (was TPR, now town), but somehow he feels more uptight in this game." Thus, he's not confident in his reasoning, much like his read on Ironace iirc?
The "This is all a vague feeling I've had in the back of my mind" thing also undercuts the entire argument.
Also, Wifom logic.
Yeah, that's bull.
Ffs, yes I am not confident in my reasoning. But you both asked me to explain myself, so I did >.>
I wanted to undercut my own statement exactly because of this. Was it better if I had just not said anything?
Aug 1, 2017 4:22 PM

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Anyone knows a game where lucian was scum? :D
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Aug 1, 2017 4:25 PM

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LucianRoy ISO Part 1

My reason for choosing Lucian out of all the possible candidates is that I feel a divide in town, and I feel a separation between Gwen and Lucians opinions that seemed almost on the same wave length to almost nothing, and with a lynch of a townie that may or may not be Lucians fault, I want to emphasize that mafia as a game can be seen through politics, normally, lynches are easy, but when 8 people are needed then it’s a collective decision, and everyone is at fault. I believe Lucian is town, and in this post, I’m gunna look at all his posts and played the devil’s advocate here, and look at the good and the bad in hope that everyone can come to a decision on where to place him.

#25 First post, join in on the RVS, has to claim this is post is NAI, idk why, possibly because who understands that people take a look at everything, NAI Post

#30 Explains the usage of RVS, something I believe only a townie would say as if he was scum wouldn’t it be better to give as little information for town to use as possible. Town Post. Gives my exact thoughts in #245

#37 Another explanation on acronyms and game mechanics, I stand with what I said above. Town Post

#52 Not specifically a post by Lucian, but it’s the first major scum read of the game, and it also gives my thoughts on it. Find it hard that a scum would try play off something like this so early, this is my opinion. So yes I guess I’m town reading Sleip here also, but again his recent strain of inactivity speaks a lot, especially with how active he was day 1.

#66 Side Note: Lucian first answers part of Sleips post where he talks about Lucians actions in The Morning After, and I feel as if me and Sleip played a different game, because I didn’t see the same Lucian he did. Didn’t start off by accusing Sleip back but instead began with asking him questions. Something to look into though is that he asked another person on their thoughts about Sleip before giving his own thoughts.

#89 Regardless of his and Sleips interactions, he still sees everything as NAI at this point, which shows hes not jumping to any forceful conclusions early on. I feel as if scum would try to ride their accuser a lot harder if they were being accused, but this post also comes only shortly after what I considered to be the end of RVS for some people this game.

#193 Scum reads me, and gets town vibes from gwen in the same post, both his stances are uerstandable, and still generally answers my comments with agreement, even after voting me, which shows he doesn’t want to beat me like a dead horse, and still is trying to find other leads. Wouldn’t scum just push a lead as soon as they got one? But I guess this can be seen both ways. Town Post. Also I feel as scum wouldn’t mind being pocketed, but good scum would know this, and wouldn’t play off this too hard.

#201 He is generally ok with Sleips reasoning and still showing willingness to find more info.

#237 Here he breaks down my posts, feels a little nitpicky, but overall he gives many good thoughts on my post and it doesn’t feel forced.
Makes a lot of posts answering almost everyone’s questions, like he interacts with almost everyone and I feel as if scum would find a hard time doing this. So many posts… cant analyze them all haha. One thing I wondered was, did people not vote me because of their own reasonings or because they didn’t want to follow so strongly with Lucian. I went to sleep expecting my grave to be dug, and woke up to a new train on red Salmon, where the first vote starts here #360 and he shows lots of eagerness here #363 to vote off Salmon. I don’t think at this point he believed I was town, but instead thought it would be better to move to a second choice, that he saw where everyone would be ok with moving to, and he also gave good reasoning for the move a long side this.

315 Another fairly large post from Lucian quoting posts from me, Shin, Suzune.

Ok so that pretty much sums day 1 up. One thing I must point out is that he never has enough information and is always trying to find more information before coming to any conclusion. Part 2 will be coming out l8r tonight.

@LucianRoy @Gwendolly @Zymf @Shinichi-kun
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Gwendolly said:
Anyone knows a game where lucian was scum? :D
nope lol
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and if you’d meet her
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you were on a
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Aug 1, 2017 4:29 PM

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LucianRoy said:


@Shinichi-Kun
#78 - Honestly I don't get why this is weird. Lucy always gives information stuff.
#86 - Aha, the irony. Feels like you're the one trying so hard to earn town respect.
#229"Certainly Gwennies townes is showing in some posts, but def not in a post that could be from either alignment."
And which post is that?

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Shinichi-Kun said:
Honestly if we want to figure out lucian putting him to like L3 would give some good results to figuring out his alignment, rather not L2 since I dont want him to just get blantly hammered.

Vote:Lucian

Plus we need a countertrain badly

Ohh, this makes a lot of sense. So the guy defending me 20 posts prior now wants to build a countertrain on me, hmm. That makes a lot of sense.


Not sure whats wrong with that though, also I never directly stated you were a town read, I was implying that I could not see what was making you scummy to others. If I did I was a mistake on my part.

Why you link #78?

I don't try to earn any sort of respect, not sure what your talking about. My replies are all genuine shit coming from my head the way I see it.

Hmm I'll go find it right now if that makes you feel better.


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Who would u rather a countertrain be built on? Me? Your welcome to ISO me.

Also I do agree I havent formed my own read's, but if I see someone making a good point or saying something stupid Ill ether follow it or comment on it.


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I just googled WIFOM and ended up watching the scene from "The Princess Bride". Funny! xD
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Aug 1, 2017 4:37 PM

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@lastwhisper31 Did you make that ISO knowing you will survive N2? Rhetorical question btw
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LucianRoy said:
Basically, Scum right now are Zymf and Shin.

Town block is me, Last, Wen, Gwen, and Dono.

The rest haven't done anything exceptionally impressionable for me to get a clear read on them.


Ironic as soon as I turn towards you, I get put in a scum block lmao. Still waiting to here what makes you think I am scum, plus I have no idea how I was connected to zymf.


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Gwendolly said:
@lucianroy
lucianroy said:

For what reasoning are you voting me?
Gwendolly said:
Lucian has definitely alot to explain now.

What did you have in mind?


^For this reason. Since we know ironace and salmon are town now and that you intended to lynch both of them. You were admitting your mistakes but it was more like a "oh well, shit happens." Not too sure if I'm buying that. But salmons death would make more sense to me if they were willing to spite you for that and I like your current proceeding right now. So yea...
You're making more sense than Shinichi right now tho. Your single post has satisfied me already lol if you're scum I'll take off my hat for you

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WHat ain't i making sense about? I find it fustrating to be told I aint making sense when no clear indication of posts or reasons why have been linked.


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LucianRoy said:
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Care to elaborate? Or you gonna play the careful card now?

That's the scum read I'm most unsure of.
It ties into how I felt togs was trying to pocket me in the early game, and he gave what felt like an easy townread on Last at the time just before a good number of players, including me, started to gang up on him. Doesn't read like the mindset I had, nor the mindset Suzune had.
Tsubasa hasn't really done much, so Idk.


Can you really blame suzaku for the actions of togs? Like this is a serious question that no one has ever really given a proper answer to. When do we hold someone responsible for scummy behavior and when do we not, espically if said person is replaced by someone thats being more townlike.


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Gwendolly said:
@lastwhisper31 Did you make that ISO knowing you will survive N2? Rhetorical question btw
Not really lol, I made a huge post on Zymf in my last game, only to have to throw it out because he tore me a new face during the night.
blinddate
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Gwendolly said:
I just googled WIFOM and ended up watching the scene from "The Princess Bride". Funny! xD
I honestly dont know how to use that term, Roy is the only person Ive ever seen use it.
blinddate
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and if you’d meet her
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you were on a
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@gwendolly, You know what, sometimes I forgot there is 8 other people still alive in this mafia game...
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and if you’d meet her
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you were on a
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Zymf said:
Gwendolly said:
You gonna vote disappear for 24 hours and then place your vote last minute again?
You shouldn't expect much from me in this game tbh. I try to be as active as I can, but I am quite busy IRL and when I'm not busy I'm tired. I even stated my activity might be spotty when I signed up. So yes, expect more lazy votes, long waiting times and maybe some disorientation ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Atleast your honest haha.


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@Zymf Why is Lucian a scumlean?
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Same question as Gwen basically, why do you read me scum?
I'm not claiming.
He created the trains on both ironace and Red_Salmon and was wrong about them. He has been very much controlling the entire game, and normally people shouldn't be blamed for that, especially not Lucian who is always very controlling. But in this game I've felt that he is overdoing it. Nowhere have I seen a read from him that is "un-justified" by the "rules of scumhunting" or any "gut feelings", so I feel that he might have taken on the leadership role in an attempt to keep it all the way to the end while misleading town in a very "convincing" matter.

The last game I believe he played or at least that he played with me was The Morning After where Logic and Lucian sorta shared the leadership role and had many discussions back and fourth. In that game they were both town and maybe it's because my own alignment has changed (was TPR, now town), but somehow he feels more uptight in this game. I remember he made a short post long ago where he said he wanted to take a break after this game because he was overworking himself, and when I read it I thougth maybe he is actively trying to make us think that he is still the very pro-town, super active, logically-thinking LucianRoy as last game?.. as scum?

One would think that it's wierd why he then decided to kill Red_Salmon, since that would clearly point back to himself (especially after #900). But Lucian is smart enough to play with our heads like that (I think?).

This is all just a vague feeling I've had in the back of my mind and I haven't yet looked into specific posts to further investigate if my theory holds any water. But it is definitely something I will look out for and I'm interested if anyone feel the same way or it's just me?

Time to properly back-read for a bit...


What makes that so unusual though? Also what do you mean by "the Rules of scum hunting", explain the paragraph to me. I don't believe so, i had a talk with lucian outside of the game not too long ago, he just gets burned out so he vanishes every few months. I don't know if that holds any water in this game, but tahts what i know. It's true though veyr few players would risk killing a guy that has put them on the spotlight, but wheres the conviction? You said "(I think)", do you believe its pisslbe or not?

How do you propose to do that if your always so busy?


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And from this, I conclude Zymf is scum.
This is not a clear perception of my meta, he has no sample-size on my games and is focusing on one example, he's not referencing practically any of my behavior from the morning after, (minus my strong play as town?), and this feels mostly like he's pushing for tonal reasoning I find unsubstantial. He also undercuts his argument by giving disclaimers such as this for example: "In that game they were both town and maybe it's because my own alignment has changed (was TPR, now town), but somehow he feels more uptight in this game." Thus, he's not confident in his reasoning, much like his read on Ironace iirc?
The "This is all a vague feeling I've had in the back of my mind" thing also undercuts the entire argument.
Also, Wifom logic.
Yeah, that's bull.


So your mad hes not properly meta reading you lol? THe rest of the arguement I also have noticed reading zymf giant post. Doesn't feel like he holds much conviction or weight to the words.


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@lastwhisper31 @lucianroy
#30 Explains the usage of RVS, something I believe only a townie would say as if he was scum wouldn’t it be better to give as little information for town to use as possible. Town Post. Gives my exact thoughts in #245
Nope. Scum needs towncred. Which but a better way than explaining gameplay? It'll make you look active but neutral at the same time.

#193 Scum reads me, and gets town vibes from gwen in the same post, both his stances are uerstandable, and still generally answers my comments with agreement, even after voting me, which shows he doesn’t want to beat me like a dead horse, and still is trying to find other leads. Wouldn’t scum just push a lead as soon as they got one? But I guess this can be seen both ways. Town Post. Also I feel as scum wouldn’t mind being pocketed, but good scum would know this, and wouldn’t play off this too hard.
Unless you both are buddies

#201 He is generally ok with Sleips reasoning and still showing willingness to find more info.
Distraction much?

You said you gonna look at the good and bad. But all I see is you defending him
For some reason after your ISO I feel like going back to my original thoughts and stay with the idea that LW and lucianroy are scum and the only way to find out is to lynch one of them.

vote: lucianroy

He accuses Zymf with no doubt (again) because he lacks in confindence this so called "bullshit". I am not supporting Zymf here, but a lack of confindence normally qualifies alignment cluelessness. What happens if Zymf flips town, you gonna say "shit happens" again? Until all of town is dead?
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lastwhisper31 said:
Gwendolly said:
I just googled WIFOM and ended up watching the scene from "The Princess Bride". Funny! xD
I honestly dont know how to use that term, Roy is the only person Ive ever seen use it.


I don't know how to use it either, hench why i've never used in it a single game.


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Effective immeadiately @RE1031 replaces AlbertinoDias.

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Welcome honey!
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@lastwhisper31 @lucianroy
#30 Explains the usage of RVS, something I believe only a townie would say as if he was scum wouldn’t it be better to give as little information for town to use as possible. Town Post. Gives my exact thoughts in #245
Nope. Scum needs towncred. Which but a better way than explaining gameplay? It'll make you look active but neutral at the same time.

#193 Scum reads me, and gets town vibes from gwen in the same post, both his stances are uerstandable, and still generally answers my comments with agreement, even after voting me, which shows he doesn’t want to beat me like a dead horse, and still is trying to find other leads. Wouldn’t scum just push a lead as soon as they got one? But I guess this can be seen both ways. Town Post. Also I feel as scum wouldn’t mind being pocketed, but good scum would know this, and wouldn’t play off this too hard.
Unless you both are buddies

#201 He is generally ok with Sleips reasoning and still showing willingness to find more info.
Distraction much?

You said you gonna look at the good and bad. But all I see is you defending him
For some reason after your ISO I feel like going back to my original thoughts and stay with the idea that LW and lucianroy are scum and the only way to find out is to lynch one of them.

vote: lucianroy

He accuses Zymf with no doubt (again) because he lacks in confindence this so called "bullshit". I am not supporting Zymf here, but a lack of confindence normally qualifies alignment cluelessness. What happens if Zymf flips town, you gonna say "shit happens" again? Until all of town is dead?


The 1st sentence is ironic coming from you, because I've already stated the same about you questioning all the mechanics talk and other shit as a way to make yourself look like engaged town.

YOur still as flip floppy as ever I see lmao.

Unless both zymf and Lucian are bussing the crap out of eachother one of those 2 are most likely scum. Also if another town does get lynched what else can you say? Someone has to lead the train, so if they end uo pushing on a town aligned palyer its just like Lucian called it. Shit happens and you should move on, we always gain something though new VCA.


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Effective immeadiately @RE1031 replaces AlbertinoDias.

Please give them a warm welcome!


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Shinichi-Kun said:
Gwendolly said:
@lastwhisper31 @lucianroy
#30 Explains the usage of RVS, something I believe only a townie would say as if he was scum wouldn’t it be better to give as little information for town to use as possible. Town Post. Gives my exact thoughts in #245
Nope. Scum needs towncred. Which but a better way than explaining gameplay? It'll make you look active but neutral at the same time.

#193 Scum reads me, and gets town vibes from gwen in the same post, both his stances are uerstandable, and still generally answers my comments with agreement, even after voting me, which shows he doesn’t want to beat me like a dead horse, and still is trying to find other leads. Wouldn’t scum just push a lead as soon as they got one? But I guess this can be seen both ways. Town Post. Also I feel as scum wouldn’t mind being pocketed, but good scum would know this, and wouldn’t play off this too hard.
Unless you both are buddies

#201 He is generally ok with Sleips reasoning and still showing willingness to find more info.
Distraction much?

You said you gonna look at the good and bad. But all I see is you defending him
For some reason after your ISO I feel like going back to my original thoughts and stay with the idea that LW and lucianroy are scum and the only way to find out is to lynch one of them.

vote: lucianroy

He accuses Zymf with no doubt (again) because he lacks in confindence this so called "bullshit". I am not supporting Zymf here, but a lack of confindence normally qualifies alignment cluelessness. What happens if Zymf flips town, you gonna say "shit happens" again? Until all of town is dead?


The 1st sentence is ironic coming from you, because I've already stated the same about you questioning all the mechanics talk and other shit as a way to make yourself look like engaged town.

YOur still as flip floppy as ever I see lmao.

Unless both zymf and Lucian are bussing the crap out of eachother one of those 2 are most likely scum. Also if another town does get lynched what else can you say? Someone has to lead the train, so if they end uo pushing on a town aligned palyer its just like Lucian called it. Shit happens and you should move on, we always gain something though new VCA.


I dont know why you keep mentioning the mechanics talk xD I simply just mentioned it because it was clearly a theme at that moment. I myself didnt even participate. I just didnt like that TPR was so deeply discussed. Since it clearly said there wasnt one.

Haha yea sorry for my flip flopping, Im way too tolerant for this game. But I won't pull back now! Let's push this train please!

Don't push a train 2 times or maybe even 3 times and then pretend like nothing happened tho.
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Gwendolly said:
@lastwhisper31 @lucianroy
#30 Explains the usage of RVS, something I believe only a townie would say as if he was scum wouldn’t it be better to give as little information for town to use as possible. Town Post. Gives my exact thoughts in #245
Nope. Scum needs towncred. Which but a better way than explaining gameplay? It'll make you look active but neutral at the same time.

#193 Scum reads me, and gets town vibes from gwen in the same post, both his stances are uerstandable, and still generally answers my comments with agreement, even after voting me, which shows he doesn’t want to beat me like a dead horse, and still is trying to find other leads. Wouldn’t scum just push a lead as soon as they got one? But I guess this can be seen both ways. Town Post. Also I feel as scum wouldn’t mind being pocketed, but good scum would know this, and wouldn’t play off this too hard.
Unless you both are buddies

#201 He is generally ok with Sleips reasoning and still showing willingness to find more info.
Distraction much?

You said you gonna look at the good and bad. But all I see is you defending him
For some reason after your ISO I feel like going back to my original thoughts and stay with the idea that LW and lucianroy are scum and the only way to find out is to lynch one of them.

vote: lucianroy

He accuses Zymf with no doubt (again) because he lacks in confindence this so called "bullshit". I am not supporting Zymf here, but a lack of confindence normally qualifies alignment cluelessness. What happens if Zymf flips town, you gonna say "shit happens" again? Until all of town is dead?

Man my ISO made him more suspicious? and Me? and Hey is was my first ISO, I probably should have stayed more neutral. In some of my points I showed how both sides can be used, and you answer my questions with opposite thoughts, how did you conclude it was scum leading town over town leading scum? And Honestly I was just about to make a post about Lucians forcefulness, I think he needs to take a breather and understand where Zymfs coming from. But even zymf said he has doubt in his points lol, so where do we drawn the line on who has more doubts and who has the least to justify their actions. For part 2 I won't look at the bad or good then, no point in playing neutral, if town is gunna win, then I need to show people that I'm town a long side Lucian.

Edit: Well at least he points are out in the open, people can come to their own opinions on his day 1 posts.
Edit 2: I also guess me and you have different thoughts on how to play scum.
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lastwhisper31 said:
Gwendolly said:
@lastwhisper31 @lucianroy
#30 Explains the usage of RVS, something I believe only a townie would say as if he was scum wouldn’t it be better to give as little information for town to use as possible. Town Post. Gives my exact thoughts in #245
Nope. Scum needs towncred. Which but a better way than explaining gameplay? It'll make you look active but neutral at the same time.

#193 Scum reads me, and gets town vibes from gwen in the same post, both his stances are uerstandable, and still generally answers my comments with agreement, even after voting me, which shows he doesn’t want to beat me like a dead horse, and still is trying to find other leads. Wouldn’t scum just push a lead as soon as they got one? But I guess this can be seen both ways. Town Post. Also I feel as scum wouldn’t mind being pocketed, but good scum would know this, and wouldn’t play off this too hard.
Unless you both are buddies

#201 He is generally ok with Sleips reasoning and still showing willingness to find more info.
Distraction much?

You said you gonna look at the good and bad. But all I see is you defending him
For some reason after your ISO I feel like going back to my original thoughts and stay with the idea that LW and lucianroy are scum and the only way to find out is to lynch one of them.

vote: lucianroy

He accuses Zymf with no doubt (again) because he lacks in confindence this so called "bullshit". I am not supporting Zymf here, but a lack of confindence normally qualifies alignment cluelessness. What happens if Zymf flips town, you gonna say "shit happens" again? Until all of town is dead?

Man my ISO made him more suspicious? and Me? and Hey is was my first ISO, I probably should have stayed more neutral. In some of my points I showed how both sides can be used, and you answer my questions with opposite thoughts, how did you conclude it was scum leading town over town leading scum? And Honestly I was just about to make a post about Lucians forcefulness, I think he needs to take a breather and understand where Zymfs coming from. But even zymf said he has doubt in his points lol, so where do we drawn the line on who has more doubts and who has the least to justify their actions. For part 2 I won't look at the bad or good then, no point in playing neutral, if town is gunna win, then I need to show people that I'm town a long side Lucian.

Edit: Well at least he points are out in the open, people can come to their own opinions on his day 1 posts.
Edit 2: I also guess me and you have different thoughts on how to play scum.


How? Because I think I'm in a pocket right now :)

Why did you write that sentence in past tense btw? As if everything is already over :o
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lastwhisper31 said:
@gwendolly, You know what, sometimes I forgot there is 8 other people still alive in this mafia game...


Yea lol kinda not fair if one of the others are scum
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Zymf said:
Gwendolly said:
You gonna vote disappear for 24 hours and then place your vote last minute again?
You shouldn't expect much from me in this game tbh. I try to be as active as I can, but I am quite busy IRL and when I'm not busy I'm tired. I even stated my activity might be spotty when I signed up. So yes, expect more lazy votes, long waiting times and maybe some disorientation ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Why did you even sign up then!? *headslaps you*
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Gwendolly said:
lastwhisper31 said:

Man my ISO made him more suspicious? and Me? and Hey is was my first ISO, I probably should have stayed more neutral. In some of my points I showed how both sides can be used, and you answer my questions with opposite thoughts, how did you conclude it was scum leading town over town leading scum? And Honestly I was just about to make a post about Lucians forcefulness, I think he needs to take a breather and understand where Zymfs coming from. But even zymf said he has doubt in his points lol, so where do we drawn the line on who has more doubts and who has the least to justify their actions. For part 2 I won't look at the bad or good then, no point in playing neutral, if town is gunna win, then I need to show people that I'm town a long side Lucian.

Edit: Well at least he points are out in the open, people can come to their own opinions on his day 1 posts.
Edit 2: I also guess me and you have different thoughts on how to play scum.


How? Because I think I'm in a pocket right now :)

Why did you write that sentence in past tense btw? As if everything is already over :o
Idk do you :)
My tenses are all over the place sometimes, but if we want to look at the bolded statement, then tell me if you dont believe that then tell me whats going on here? and if you want I can rewrite the sentence to satisfy you... so How based off Lucian's posts can you come to a conclusion thats its scum leading town, rather then town looking for scum?
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lastwhisper31 said:
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How? Because I think I'm in a pocket right now :)

Why did you write that sentence in past tense btw? As if everything is already over :o
Idk do you :)? My tenses are all over the place sometimes, but if we want to look at the bolded statement, then tell me if you dont believe that then tell me whats going on here? and if you want I can rewrite the sentence to satisfy you... so How based off Lucian's posts can you come to a conclusion thats its scum leading town, rather then town looking for scum?


Let's just lynch him and find out? Or do you have a better candidate?
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@Shinichi-kun what do you think of your brothers ISO? What do you think of him in general? I have a feeling you're trying not to collide with him. Now that could be indirect teamwork could it?
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