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Aug 1, 2017 9:54 AM
#1001
| Before I drop off the face of the Earth for 5 hours. @the_pyromaani where the fuck are you and why should we leave you alone. @lucianroy, what do you think of the early rushed votes on Abu? |
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Aug 1, 2017 9:58 AM
#1002
Compiling New Date..... Please Wait..... Loading..... Printing..... --------------- Vote Count 3.2 on display LucianRoy (2): Gwendolly, Shinichi-kun AbuHumaid (4): wen294, SuzakuTsubasa, aa-dono, Zymf aa-dono (1): lastwhisper31 Not voting (5): Sleipnirr, The_Pyromaani, AbuHumaid, LucianRoy, AlbertinoDias Notes: with 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch today. Time until end of D3 |
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Aug 1, 2017 10:32 AM
#1004
| Sometimes you can be right for all the wrong reasons, and wrong for all the right reasons. It goes both ways. --- lastwhisper31 said: aa-dono said: @lastwhisper31 #42 - It's hard to see Wisp as a new player with this kind of post. #93 - At this point, I still don't know where is Wisp standing with his reads. Feels like he's just pretending to look be doing something :/ Scummy #99 - Points out that he doesn't get Sleip's POV but there was no question directed to anyone to understand where they're coming from. Lack of gamesolving attempt. Scummy. #145 - Better post. Hmmm #68 - On the fence post from Wisp. Do both brothers have the peacemaker tendency? o.o - So he thinks Sleip's vote is extreme. Q: At this point, is Sleip town or scum? --- @Sleipnirr #51 - I think speculating about TPR before there's any evidence or indication that it exists is distracting. This used to be a red flag to me, but I've learnt that town does this too. So eh. #52 - This post makes Sleip a town-lean for me. #141 - Someone remembers my oneesama ^^ Yeah, I wanted to be like her too. To be able to rally town... and read someone so nicely~ I miss Queen. --- @LucianRoy #66 - This sounds defensive: It sounds almost like you're favoring the inactive RVS state of the game prior to post 30 or so. #193 - This feels like it completely dodged Gwen's question about townreading me. Does 'weird' translate into 'scummy', or does it not warrant a vote? --- @Shinichi-Kun #78 - Honestly I don't get why this is weird. Lucy always gives information stuff. #86 - Aha, the irony. Feels like you're the one trying so hard to earn town respect. #229"Certainly Gwennies townes is showing in some posts, but def not in a post that could be from either alignment." And which post is that? --- @Suzune-chan #101 - Ah... I used to be this. Being a cockroach, means being very hard to kill, is usually considered a good thing to have in the long run. What do you mean by this: "Unless the town is significantly powerful it is frowned upon to put the odds at 33%" Why is it bad? --- @Gwendolly #108 - Ha. Pretty bold way to say she doesn't approve of reads that early. More town lean than scum since I don't think scum would do that so openly. Unless Lucy's scum x') --- @Togs #133 - Why is Wisp a townlean? --- @Red_Salmon #168 - I agree on Sleip. Not so much on Wisp. I don't see the pro-town part of it. --- @AlbertinoDias #222 - Tino have same thoughts as mine. Though I don't explain everything as town too. I like to be a bit more reserved. Anyway, you're alright in my book. For clarity I will bold all aa-dono's comments, and discuss what I think about each right under them: #42 - It's hard to see Wisp as a new player with this kind of post. I mean isnt this just common sense? Confident scum will try to lead the game early if possible. One thing to note that is that if said lynchee flips town, you should look at the reasoning behind the first vote, and if its obvious that there must be scum on the train, then its also good to note that other scum my hide in the middle of the train, because the end and start tend to be an off put for scum because those areas are both checked. I cant say if that holds complete truth for town flips, but if someone flips scum, its more possible that scum are towards the middle of a train, if like I said its obvious that there must be scum on the train. #93 - At this point, I still don't know where is Wisp standing with his reads. Feels like he's just pretending to look be doing something :/ Scummy Its funny I feel as if your trying to look like you've come to your own consensus on what to label me as, but idk why it still kinda feels like your sheeping off of what Gwen started. and wtf does that even mean, I am always doing something. #99 - Points out that he doesn't get Sleip's POV but there was no question directed to anyone to understand where they're coming from. Lack of gamesolving attempt. Scummy. What was there to ask, this most likely came from a past game experience, and it's not like I didnt also sympathize with his thinking as well. I played more of the devil's advocate there, not gunna lie there. and wtf is with this lack of game solving bs... and those scummy posts at the end seem like a sad attempt to get everyone to keep on me instead of looking for other possible scum. Gwen was so focused on seeing me scum that after she saw that "definitely" everything to her came off as scum, its all slightly biased thought hidden behind little reasoning, that I kinda see you playing off of. - So he thinks Sleip's vote is extreme. Ya, Lucian made like two posts, and he wrote up this whole theory on scum controling the votes. And if you want where I stand on Sleip, then Ill say more of a town lean, because I dont feel that scum would put so much attention on themselves so early on, but also theres the fact that he hasnt been as active day 2, and hasnt really come back on if he still believes Lucian is scum leading the town (I may be mistaken) #51 - I think speculating about TPR before there's any evidence or indication that it exists is distracting. This used to be a red flag to me, but I've learnt that town does this too. So eh. I think we all got pretty confused early on about tpr and not, and really havent brought it up again, we all came to a decision that their is no tpr, so why put emphasis on this. #52 - This post makes Sleip a town-lean for me. Gut feels = town leans to you??? #193 - This feels like it completely dodged Gwen's question about townreading me. I don't see how he's dodging anything. Gwen question was 'the need to have reads'. She didn't say it was esp about you. I stand corrected. How do you know this though? Does 'weird' translate into 'scummy', or does it not warrant a vote? I like this question. Not gunna lie, I didnt really think much about what Gwen specifically wanted to hear, I just kinda gave the answer I felt was needed. I didnt realize she wanted me to focus more on why I town read Lucian, but if anything my early town read can be see as just as crazy as Sleips crazy scum read. My point was that, Sleip may read Lucian as scum from those early posts, and I chimed in and said that I saw it as Town indicative. "Definitely" wasn't the best choice of word in that situation I agree though. #229"Certainly Gwennies townes is showing in some posts, but def not in a post that could be from either alignment." A lot of posts can be seen as either or, but to get back to this. I will try posting an ISO on Gwen tomorrow if I have the time. @Togs #133 - Why is Wisp a townlean? Togs always town reads me #168 - I agree on Sleip. Not so much on Wisp. I don't see the pro-town part of it. Still feel like you focusing more on how theres almost no chance I'm town, is there nothing you saw that reads as town. Even in my psychopass game I had a nice balance of hate and love. Do you have any knew info at all? tldr: Rough Lean List seen from her posts Sleip - town lean Lucian - Neutral Me - 3 posts that she analyzed and came to the conclusion that im scummy. Gwen - town lean because dono doesnt believe mafia can be bold. Togs - Neutral Shin - ??? Suzune - dead Salmon - slight agreement with her lean on Sleip but against her town lean on me Alberto - "Ok in my book" idk why though So imo she comes back from her hiatus and instead of bringing any new info just seems to focus on me and doesn't directly state any of her leans Edit: Dont really have a place for her either, is it scummy that she jumped on me, but if I believe that then I gotta look at everyone else that also jumped on me, including Shin because he also sheeped off of what Lucian and Gwen started. I'm loving the analysis I'm seeing from wisp this game, but it's still a bit unclear what he's taking away from dono here. I think he marks her as a scum-lean, correct? What's your current read on Dono? --- So it was misinformation. --- Zymf said: I do agree that Red_Salmon is not bering very clear about what his actual read on LucianRoy is, but I honestly don't see what's so bad about it, so in general, I'm a bit put off by all this. You've appeared to have missed the reasoning that everyone sheeped later in the phase. Nobody sheeped me off of those questions. --- @Wisp, what's your read on Tsubasa's 846? --- Can anyone bring up that post where Zymf said he read ironace as town? His vote was possibly the worst on the train. --- ironace said: Guys, please check out shin and abu.Those two seem to be the most scummy.Next is lucian. Surprisingly good suggestions for a dead person. --- ironace said: @wen294, I said i wouldnt ''mind'' lynching lucian d3 as he would be the most scummy if red was indeed town. But my wording leaves space for one to think that if there is some reasoning that lucian is not scum or that theres a better person to lynch then i would do just that This is why I hate people who line-up lynchs. --- Gwendolly said: Shinichi-Kun said: I don't really have time to explain my own reasons, but I liked lucians reasons enough to be ok with iron as a counter train and as a lynch You're willing to lynch him for the same reason as you were willing to lynch salmon. Based off on a single post from ironace that looked scummy enough for lucian. What is this? Gwen brings up a great question in this post because no one shin has pushed this game feels like he made original reasoning for pushing them. --- Gwendolly said: vote:lucianroy Because I'm wondering who he's going to sheep now or if he'll just go straight for Abu For what reasoning are you voting me? --- Zymf said: I haven't read the end of Day 2 yet, but I have scum leans on Lucian, Abu and Albertino (Suzaku). I am VERY much interested in hearing Lucian's role, but I still have more reason to suspect the two others. Same question as Gwen basically, why do you read me scum? I'm not claiming. --- Zymf said: Oh right, sorry @SuzakuTsubasa (Do you prefer to be called Suzaku or Tsubasa ^^?) Vote: AbuHumaid I might as well place my vote here for the time being... Zymf is actually one of my scummier reads atm. Things don't add up around his slot. He townread Ironace, but obviously he didn't believe that much in his read because he ended up voting him for my reasoning. Now he's pushing someone who's inactive? Vote: Zymf Very interested in hearing why I'm a scumlean of his now. --- Gwendolly said: Are you kidding me? That's what he did the two last day phases xD Plus he said it himself I'd recommend you refer to a post on that one because I remember saying nothing of the sort. *nvm after readin 971 --- Gwendolly said: Shinichi-Kun said: Gwendolly said: vote:lucianroy Because I'm wondering who he's going to sheep now or if he'll just go straight for Abu Im confused on why you call what lucian is doing sheeping, hes provided reasons for all the High Priority trains. He finds the smallest clue and makes a big elephant out of it. Yes, I did find ironace slightly scummy, but it didnt make sense to lynch him that day. You should revisit my analysis of 543. That was solid reasoning imo, all the right reasons, on all the wrong people. --- Shinichi-Kun said: Honestly if we want to figure out lucian putting him to like L3 would give some good results to figuring out his alignment, rather not L2 since I dont want him to just get blantly hammered. Vote:Lucian Plus we need a countertrain badly Ohh, this makes a lot of sense. So the guy defending me 20 posts prior now wants to build a countertrain on me, hmm. That makes a lot of sense. Shinichi-Kun said: Zymf said: Red_Salmon said: lastwhisper31 said: Gwendolly said: had a similar experience in psycho pass. Train was on me, but they all switched to Ruu last minute. Side note: We were both town but I was honestly so sure that Ruu was scum. Also no one is even trying to lead votes except Lucian and y'all complain when you don't like the direction he leads, no one walked over to your keyboard and types lynch: Ironace you came to your own consensus regardless of his flip. Remember that, and work with it, that's all we can do.Red_Salmon said: Thanks for the explanation @wen294 that makes sense I'm gonna go take a shower now. Will be back in 20 min. Gotta cool my head, prepare for EoD. I simply can't get myself to vote iron rn. Maybe I'm weak to AtE or smthn. idk. This train feels very very similar to the train on me EoD1. Ofc his original post was scummy but his responses this page and on the last are quite the opposite. Especially this sentence "Eh, I know my defense is weak, so if you guys still believe Im scum, go ahead. But do look into these people as well.." in his original defense in #806 +1 Well then I'll take the lead and start the case on Shinichi, Lucian and Abu D3 then My bet is that either some of them are mafia or the mafia is someone who is completely unrelated to Salmon (didn't vote for salmon, didn't build a case on salmon and didn't defend salmon). I haven't read the end of Day 2 yet, but I have scum leans on Lucian, Abu and Albertino (Suzaku). I am VERY much interested in hearing Lucian's role, but I still have more reason to suspect the two others. Im sure its someone related to salmon, and fear got the best of them. I am confused as to why you quote a message that shows Salmon wanted to iso me, yet in your post you don't mention me at all. I'm more inclined to believe it's abu, I still don't see what the others are seeing in Lucian. As for suzaku I'll see what he posts in this phase before I decide anything. Yeah, that vote makes a lot of sense to me. --- aa-dono said: These easy defenses on Abu makes me even more comfortable with my vote. People I'm alright with lynching this phase: Zymf and Abu. I don't like Zymf's reads. I don't get his townread on Ironace, and although that's proven true, it feels easy. Same goes his scumread. I'm probably not one to say since I don't provide mountains of analytical posts. Anyway, his votes feels opportunistic. If he's certain of Abu as scum, why don't he use this early phase more for sorting out Lucian? @Zymf Edit: @Gwendolly Just realized you asked. Aye, I'm okay with people voting Abu to sort him, I am not okay with an eventual Abu lynch. He's best left for PoE after we nab 1 scum and re-read. --- lastwhisper31 said: Before I drop off the face of the Earth for 5 hours. @the_pyromaani where the fuck are you and why should we leave you alone. @lucianroy, what do you think of the early rushed votes on Abu? If you want my actual opinion it involves me getting townvibes off of Abu for his response to my 1 question he answered yesterday. --- It's scummy how Zymf votes Abu, and simultaneously asks me to claim, yet doesn't push me. --- Gwendolly said: Lucian has definitely alot to explain now. What did you have in mind? |
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Aug 1, 2017 10:43 AM
#1005
| Basically, Scum right now are Zymf and Shin. Town block is me, Last, Wen, Gwen, and Dono. The rest haven't done anything exceptionally impressionable for me to get a clear read on them. |
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Aug 1, 2017 10:49 AM
#1006
| Last scum could be Tsubasa, but that's a hunch. |
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Aug 1, 2017 11:03 AM
#1007
lastwhisper31 said: Before I drop off the face of the Earth for 5 hours. @the_pyromaani where the fuck are you and why should we leave you alone. @lucianroy, what do you think of the early rushed votes on Abu? Why the fuck you leave me alone? Hm? |
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Aug 1, 2017 11:37 AM
#1008
| @lucianroy lucianroy said: For what reasoning are you voting me? Gwendolly said: Lucian has definitely alot to explain now. What did you have in mind? ^For this reason. Since we know ironace and salmon are town now and that you intended to lynch both of them. You were admitting your mistakes but it was more like a "oh well, shit happens." Not too sure if I'm buying that. But salmons death would make more sense to me if they were willing to spite you for that and I like your current proceeding right now. So yea... You're making more sense than Shinichi right now tho. Your single post has satisfied me already lol if you're scum I'll take off my hat for you unvote |
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Aug 1, 2017 11:39 AM
#1009
The_Pyromaani said: lastwhisper31 said: Before I drop off the face of the Earth for 5 hours. @the_pyromaani where the fuck are you and why should we leave you alone. @lucianroy, what do you think of the early rushed votes on Abu? Why the fuck you leave me alone? Hm? What? Seriously dude. You're worse than abu... |
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Aug 1, 2017 11:54 AM
#1010
LucianRoy said: Last scum could be Tsubasa, but that's a hunch. Care to elaborate? Or you gonna play the careful card now? |
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Aug 1, 2017 12:04 PM
#1011
Gwendolly said: LucianRoy said: Last scum could be Tsubasa, but that's a hunch. Care to elaborate? Or you gonna play the careful card now? That's the scum read I'm most unsure of. It ties into how I felt togs was trying to pocket me in the early game, and he gave what felt like an easy townread on Last at the time just before a good number of players, including me, started to gang up on him. Doesn't read like the mindset I had, nor the mindset Suzune had. Tsubasa hasn't really done much, so Idk. |
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Aug 1, 2017 12:15 PM
#1012
LucianRoy said: I think it's time I released some mechanical info, better time then ever imo. Either when I get home or when I get my break.Gwendolly said: LucianRoy said: Last scum could be Tsubasa, but that's a hunch. Care to elaborate? Or you gonna play the careful card now? That's the scum read I'm most unsure of. It ties into how I felt togs was trying to pocket me in the early game, and he gave what felt like an easy townread on Last at the time just before a good number of players, including me, started to gang up on him. Doesn't read like the mindset I had, nor the mindset Suzune had. Tsubasa hasn't really done much, so Idk. |
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Aug 1, 2017 12:15 PM
#1013
| Wow it's a beautiful day out. If I come back and haven't run 5k, lynch me. |
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Aug 1, 2017 1:33 PM
#1014
Verifying Previous Data..... Download in Progress..... Please Wait..... Computing..... --------------- Vote Count 3.3 on display LucianRoy (1): Shinichi-kun AbuHumaid (4): wen294, SuzakuTsubasa, aa-dono, Zymf aa-dono (1): lastwhisper31 zymf (1): LucianRoy Not voting (5): Sleipnirr, The_Pyromaani, AbuHumaid, AlbertinoDias, Gwendolly Notes: with 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch today. Time until end of D3 |
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Aug 1, 2017 2:42 PM
#1015
| He created the trains on both ironace and Red_Salmon and was wrong about them. He has been very much controlling the entire game, and normally people shouldn't be blamed for that, especially not Lucian who is always very controlling. But in this game I've felt that he is overdoing it. Nowhere have I seen a read from him that is "un-justified" by the "rules of scumhunting" or any "gut feelings", so I feel that he might have taken on the leadership role in an attempt to keep it all the way to the end while misleading town in a very "convincing" matter. The last game I believe he played or at least that he played with me was The Morning After where Logic and Lucian sorta shared the leadership role and had many discussions back and fourth. In that game they were both town and maybe it's because my own alignment has changed (was TPR, now town), but somehow he feels more uptight in this game. I remember he made a short post long ago where he said he wanted to take a break after this game because he was overworking himself, and when I read it I thougth maybe he is actively trying to make us think that he is still the very pro-town, super active, logically-thinking LucianRoy as last game?.. as scum? One would think that it's wierd why he then decided to kill Red_Salmon, since that would clearly point back to himself (especially after #900). But Lucian is smart enough to play with our heads like that (I think?). This is all just a vague feeling I've had in the back of my mind and I haven't yet looked into specific posts to further investigate if my theory holds any water. But it is definitely something I will look out for and I'm interested if anyone feel the same way or it's just me? Time to properly back-read for a bit... |
Aug 1, 2017 2:48 PM
#1016
Gwendolly said: You shouldn't expect much from me in this game tbh. I try to be as active as I can, but I am quite busy IRL and when I'm not busy I'm tired. I even stated my activity might be spotty when I signed up. So yes, expect more lazy votes, long waiting times and maybe some disorientation ¯\_(ツ)_/¯You gonna vote disappear for 24 hours and then place your vote last minute again? |
Aug 1, 2017 3:22 PM
#1017
Zymf said: He created the trains on both ironace and Red_Salmon and was wrong about them. He has been very much controlling the entire game, and normally people shouldn't be blamed for that, especially not Lucian who is always very controlling. But in this game I've felt that he is overdoing it. Nowhere have I seen a read from him that is "un-justified" by the "rules of scumhunting" or any "gut feelings", so I feel that he might have taken on the leadership role in an attempt to keep it all the way to the end while misleading town in a very "convincing" matter. I'm going to call bull on that. The last game I believe he played or at least that he played with me was The Morning After where Logic and Lucian sorta shared the leadership role and had many discussions back and fourth. In that game they were both town and maybe it's because my own alignment has changed (was TPR, now town), but somehow he feels more uptight in this game. I'm also going to call that bull. I remember he made a short post long ago where he said he wanted to take a break after this game because he was overworking himself, and when I read it I thougth maybe he is actively trying to make us think that he is still the very pro-town, super active, logically-thinking LucianRoy as last game?.. as scum? Tbf, I was sad that scum killed Suzune early because this is the first game we got a chance to play together in a while. We go way back. One would think that it's wierd why he then decided to kill Red_Salmon, since that would clearly point back to himself (especially after #900). But Lucian is smart enough to play with our heads like that (I think?). Wifom. And from this, I conclude Zymf is scum. This is not a clear perception of my meta, he has no sample-size on my games and is focusing on one example, he's not referencing practically any of my behavior from the morning after, (minus my strong play as town?), and this feels mostly like he's pushing for tonal reasoning I find unsubstantial. He also undercuts his argument by giving disclaimers such as this for example: "In that game they were both town and maybe it's because my own alignment has changed (was TPR, now town), but somehow he feels more uptight in this game." Thus, he's not confident in his reasoning, much like his read on Ironace iirc? The "This is all a vague feeling I've had in the back of my mind" thing also undercuts the entire argument. Also, Wifom logic. Yeah, that's bull. |
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Aug 1, 2017 3:41 PM
#1018
| @lucianroy I wrote an iso on you lol. I need to clean it up and I'll post it around 8pm. It will only have day 1 interactions because u made so many good posts and I'll have part 2 of the iso l8r tonight. I also want to post my PR findings. I'll be home soon. |
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Aug 1, 2017 4:19 PM
#1019
LucianRoy said: Ffs, yes I am not confident in my reasoning. But you both asked me to explain myself, so I did >.>And from this, I conclude Zymf is scum. This is not a clear perception of my meta, he has no sample-size on my games and is focusing on one example, he's not referencing practically any of my behavior from the morning after, (minus my strong play as town?), and this feels mostly like he's pushing for tonal reasoning I find unsubstantial. He also undercuts his argument by giving disclaimers such as this for example: "In that game they were both town and maybe it's because my own alignment has changed (was TPR, now town), but somehow he feels more uptight in this game." Thus, he's not confident in his reasoning, much like his read on Ironace iirc? The "This is all a vague feeling I've had in the back of my mind" thing also undercuts the entire argument. Also, Wifom logic. Yeah, that's bull. I wanted to undercut my own statement exactly because of this. Was it better if I had just not said anything? |
Aug 1, 2017 4:25 PM
#1021
LucianRoy ISO Part 1 My reason for choosing Lucian out of all the possible candidates is that I feel a divide in town, and I feel a separation between Gwen and Lucians opinions that seemed almost on the same wave length to almost nothing, and with a lynch of a townie that may or may not be Lucians fault, I want to emphasize that mafia as a game can be seen through politics, normally, lynches are easy, but when 8 people are needed then it’s a collective decision, and everyone is at fault. I believe Lucian is town, and in this post, I’m gunna look at all his posts and played the devil’s advocate here, and look at the good and the bad in hope that everyone can come to a decision on where to place him. #25 First post, join in on the RVS, has to claim this is post is NAI, idk why, possibly because who understands that people take a look at everything, NAI Post #30 Explains the usage of RVS, something I believe only a townie would say as if he was scum wouldn’t it be better to give as little information for town to use as possible. Town Post. Gives my exact thoughts in #245 #37 Another explanation on acronyms and game mechanics, I stand with what I said above. Town Post #52 Not specifically a post by Lucian, but it’s the first major scum read of the game, and it also gives my thoughts on it. Find it hard that a scum would try play off something like this so early, this is my opinion. So yes I guess I’m town reading Sleip here also, but again his recent strain of inactivity speaks a lot, especially with how active he was day 1. #66 Side Note: Lucian first answers part of Sleips post where he talks about Lucians actions in The Morning After, and I feel as if me and Sleip played a different game, because I didn’t see the same Lucian he did. Didn’t start off by accusing Sleip back but instead began with asking him questions. Something to look into though is that he asked another person on their thoughts about Sleip before giving his own thoughts. #89 Regardless of his and Sleips interactions, he still sees everything as NAI at this point, which shows hes not jumping to any forceful conclusions early on. I feel as if scum would try to ride their accuser a lot harder if they were being accused, but this post also comes only shortly after what I considered to be the end of RVS for some people this game. #193 Scum reads me, and gets town vibes from gwen in the same post, both his stances are uerstandable, and still generally answers my comments with agreement, even after voting me, which shows he doesn’t want to beat me like a dead horse, and still is trying to find other leads. Wouldn’t scum just push a lead as soon as they got one? But I guess this can be seen both ways. Town Post. Also I feel as scum wouldn’t mind being pocketed, but good scum would know this, and wouldn’t play off this too hard. #201 He is generally ok with Sleips reasoning and still showing willingness to find more info. #237 Here he breaks down my posts, feels a little nitpicky, but overall he gives many good thoughts on my post and it doesn’t feel forced. Makes a lot of posts answering almost everyone’s questions, like he interacts with almost everyone and I feel as if scum would find a hard time doing this. So many posts… cant analyze them all haha. One thing I wondered was, did people not vote me because of their own reasonings or because they didn’t want to follow so strongly with Lucian. I went to sleep expecting my grave to be dug, and woke up to a new train on red Salmon, where the first vote starts here #360 and he shows lots of eagerness here #363 to vote off Salmon. I don’t think at this point he believed I was town, but instead thought it would be better to move to a second choice, that he saw where everyone would be ok with moving to, and he also gave good reasoning for the move a long side this. 315 Another fairly large post from Lucian quoting posts from me, Shin, Suzune. Ok so that pretty much sums day 1 up. One thing I must point out is that he never has enough information and is always trying to find more information before coming to any conclusion. Part 2 will be coming out l8r tonight. @LucianRoy @Gwendolly @Zymf @Shinichi-kun |
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Aug 1, 2017 4:26 PM
#1022
Gwendolly said: nope lolAnyone knows a game where lucian was scum? :D |
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Aug 1, 2017 4:29 PM
#1023
LucianRoy said: @Shinichi-Kun #78 - Honestly I don't get why this is weird. Lucy always gives information stuff. #86 - Aha, the irony. Feels like you're the one trying so hard to earn town respect. #229"Certainly Gwennies townes is showing in some posts, but def not in a post that could be from either alignment." And which post is that? --- Shinichi-Kun said: Honestly if we want to figure out lucian putting him to like L3 would give some good results to figuring out his alignment, rather not L2 since I dont want him to just get blantly hammered. Vote:Lucian Plus we need a countertrain badly Ohh, this makes a lot of sense. So the guy defending me 20 posts prior now wants to build a countertrain on me, hmm. That makes a lot of sense. Not sure whats wrong with that though, also I never directly stated you were a town read, I was implying that I could not see what was making you scummy to others. If I did I was a mistake on my part. Why you link #78? I don't try to earn any sort of respect, not sure what your talking about. My replies are all genuine shit coming from my head the way I see it. Hmm I'll go find it right now if that makes you feel better. |
Aug 1, 2017 4:32 PM
#1024
Aug 1, 2017 4:35 PM
#1025
| I just googled WIFOM and ended up watching the scene from "The Princess Bride". Funny! xD |
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Aug 1, 2017 4:37 PM
#1026
| @lastwhisper31 Did you make that ISO knowing you will survive N2? Rhetorical question btw |
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Aug 1, 2017 4:39 PM
#1027
| @lucianroy Gwendolly said: Red_Salmon said: AbuHumaid said: Red_Salmon said: there's nothing out of the ordinary right now everyone is neutral for me, what about you got any reads?aa-dono said: Stuff happened. I don't think I can concentrate on this game for a while. Worst case, I'll ask for replacement. Sorry. sad to hear that :c AbuHumaid said: wen294 said: it's not like I'm lurking on purpose, tbh i don't know what to talk about or react to so I'd rather people ask me questions, then the debate starts from thereAbuHumaid said: Oh you're right, i confused you with someone else. Oops.wen294 said: i was never replaced when i was scum thoughLucianRoy said: I've played 2 games with AbuHeman.lastwhisper31 said: LucianRoy said: lastwhisper31 said: Ha, Abu answering a quote thats funny. I do believe sleiph is going to an extreme when it comes to why hes voting you, and I believe me and him have different ideas on how you play, but does he remind you of anyone? You tend to be a little extreme when it comes to reasons for you vote. and I mean theres nothing wrong with that, but it has also had it hiccups lmao. I try to play my best, but I am unfortunately fallible just like everyone else. I'm not picking up on what you're putting down here. A better question: who does Sleiph remind YOU of? Idk I played 1 game with him (even tho I clearly stated he reminded me of you), and he was somewhat inactive, so this is a good start for him. It's been a minute. First game he was inactive and got lynched, he flipped scum. Second game he was inactive and got replaced, his slot flipped scum. Either way though, if you're gonna be a lurky ass this game i'll make it my goal to get you lynched. We need 8 votes to get a lynch, exluding mafia then that's (most likely) 11 votes from town, of which 8 need to be well placed if we want to have a chance at lynching scum. You don't come here and say "what's the beef" and just not say anything when nobody reacts to you not saying anything usefull. You need to react on your own. The "nobody asked me anything so i'm fine with not doing anything" mentality will get town killed. Vote change: AbuHeman Well I'll be the one to ask then. Although this is D1, is there anyone who seems scummy to you? Nothing solid that I can point my finger on atm. I only town read Sleipnirr and lastwhisper right now for their pro-town posts What's your take on Albert's reaction in #164 and on Sleip's interaction in #151 Can you be more precisely about the "pro-town" posts? What do you see in them? Because I really dont get why people are already town reading others...it's just way too unnecessary for me right now. This is another one of her posts i consider coming from town aligned gwennie. Gwendolly said: Oh damn I totally forgot that I signed up for a game xD Good thing I randomly thought of it today. I'll join you guys later today <3 vote: Togs You better step up your game this time! [/b] Gwendolly said: ironace said: Thirdly, I support Suzune here, the faster we lynch someone collectively the better. Mafia is better the longer the game goes. I was tempted to follow Wen in his vote for abuhumaid just so i can get something out of that doesnt sound so....neutral. His replies have so far been short and to the point, which doesnt leave much info into his thinking patterns. Atleast he is more active than his last game... I disagree with that one. That's what we DONT want to do. Maybe that's what the mafia plans to do; as in as soon as they found their prey and saved themselves they gonna leave it at that. We should take all the time we have and stay rational and calm 'til the last minute. I dont want to lynch lock anyone with 10 hours left, while we could find some more answers and reactions during that time. And about not enough people being online..there will never be a perfect time for that, so let's just stay with the general timer, but be productive (without panicking). This is another post I liked mainly because it was kinda of a mind meld, few of her newer posts are the same way. As one of her first posts this feels quite genuine, she used her rvs or what was left of it to vote someone she knew from previous games has an inactivity issue. [b]Still not a fan of her calling out the uneccesity of mechanics talk and other shit, while nitpicking or implying something was said by scum due to small word changes. |
Aug 1, 2017 4:40 PM
#1028
LucianRoy said: Basically, Scum right now are Zymf and Shin. Town block is me, Last, Wen, Gwen, and Dono. The rest haven't done anything exceptionally impressionable for me to get a clear read on them. Ironic as soon as I turn towards you, I get put in a scum block lmao. Still waiting to here what makes you think I am scum, plus I have no idea how I was connected to zymf. |
Aug 1, 2017 4:42 PM
#1029
Gwendolly said: @lucianroy lucianroy said: For what reasoning are you voting me? Gwendolly said: Lucian has definitely alot to explain now. What did you have in mind? ^For this reason. Since we know ironace and salmon are town now and that you intended to lynch both of them. You were admitting your mistakes but it was more like a "oh well, shit happens." Not too sure if I'm buying that. But salmons death would make more sense to me if they were willing to spite you for that and I like your current proceeding right now. So yea... You're making more sense than Shinichi right now tho. Your single post has satisfied me already lol if you're scum I'll take off my hat for you unvote WHat ain't i making sense about? I find it fustrating to be told I aint making sense when no clear indication of posts or reasons why have been linked. |
Aug 1, 2017 4:45 PM
#1030
LucianRoy said: Gwendolly said: LucianRoy said: Last scum could be Tsubasa, but that's a hunch. Care to elaborate? Or you gonna play the careful card now? That's the scum read I'm most unsure of. It ties into how I felt togs was trying to pocket me in the early game, and he gave what felt like an easy townread on Last at the time just before a good number of players, including me, started to gang up on him. Doesn't read like the mindset I had, nor the mindset Suzune had. Tsubasa hasn't really done much, so Idk. Can you really blame suzaku for the actions of togs? Like this is a serious question that no one has ever really given a proper answer to. When do we hold someone responsible for scummy behavior and when do we not, espically if said person is replaced by someone thats being more townlike. |
Aug 1, 2017 4:46 PM
#1031
Gwendolly said: Not really lol, I made a huge post on Zymf in my last game, only to have to throw it out because he tore me a new face during the night. @lastwhisper31 Did you make that ISO knowing you will survive N2? Rhetorical question btw |
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Aug 1, 2017 4:47 PM
#1032
Gwendolly said: I honestly dont know how to use that term, Roy is the only person Ive ever seen use it.I just googled WIFOM and ended up watching the scene from "The Princess Bride". Funny! xD |
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Aug 1, 2017 4:51 PM
#1033
| @gwendolly, You know what, sometimes I forgot there is 8 other people still alive in this mafia game... |
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Aug 1, 2017 5:07 PM
#1034
Zymf said: Gwendolly said: You shouldn't expect much from me in this game tbh. I try to be as active as I can, but I am quite busy IRL and when I'm not busy I'm tired. I even stated my activity might be spotty when I signed up. So yes, expect more lazy votes, long waiting times and maybe some disorientation ¯\_(ツ)_/¯You gonna vote disappear for 24 hours and then place your vote last minute again? Atleast your honest haha. |
Aug 1, 2017 5:17 PM
#1035
Zymf said: He created the trains on both ironace and Red_Salmon and was wrong about them. He has been very much controlling the entire game, and normally people shouldn't be blamed for that, especially not Lucian who is always very controlling. But in this game I've felt that he is overdoing it. Nowhere have I seen a read from him that is "un-justified" by the "rules of scumhunting" or any "gut feelings", so I feel that he might have taken on the leadership role in an attempt to keep it all the way to the end while misleading town in a very "convincing" matter. The last game I believe he played or at least that he played with me was The Morning After where Logic and Lucian sorta shared the leadership role and had many discussions back and fourth. In that game they were both town and maybe it's because my own alignment has changed (was TPR, now town), but somehow he feels more uptight in this game. I remember he made a short post long ago where he said he wanted to take a break after this game because he was overworking himself, and when I read it I thougth maybe he is actively trying to make us think that he is still the very pro-town, super active, logically-thinking LucianRoy as last game?.. as scum? One would think that it's wierd why he then decided to kill Red_Salmon, since that would clearly point back to himself (especially after #900). But Lucian is smart enough to play with our heads like that (I think?). This is all just a vague feeling I've had in the back of my mind and I haven't yet looked into specific posts to further investigate if my theory holds any water. But it is definitely something I will look out for and I'm interested if anyone feel the same way or it's just me? Time to properly back-read for a bit... What makes that so unusual though? Also what do you mean by "the Rules of scum hunting", explain the paragraph to me. I don't believe so, i had a talk with lucian outside of the game not too long ago, he just gets burned out so he vanishes every few months. I don't know if that holds any water in this game, but tahts what i know. It's true though veyr few players would risk killing a guy that has put them on the spotlight, but wheres the conviction? You said "(I think)", do you believe its pisslbe or not? How do you propose to do that if your always so busy? |
Aug 1, 2017 5:18 PM
#1036
LucianRoy said: And from this, I conclude Zymf is scum. This is not a clear perception of my meta, he has no sample-size on my games and is focusing on one example, he's not referencing practically any of my behavior from the morning after, (minus my strong play as town?), and this feels mostly like he's pushing for tonal reasoning I find unsubstantial. He also undercuts his argument by giving disclaimers such as this for example: "In that game they were both town and maybe it's because my own alignment has changed (was TPR, now town), but somehow he feels more uptight in this game." Thus, he's not confident in his reasoning, much like his read on Ironace iirc? The "This is all a vague feeling I've had in the back of my mind" thing also undercuts the entire argument. Also, Wifom logic. Yeah, that's bull. So your mad hes not properly meta reading you lol? THe rest of the arguement I also have noticed reading zymf giant post. Doesn't feel like he holds much conviction or weight to the words. |
Aug 1, 2017 5:19 PM
#1037
| @lastwhisper31 @lucianroy #30 Explains the usage of RVS, something I believe only a townie would say as if he was scum wouldn’t it be better to give as little information for town to use as possible. Town Post. Gives my exact thoughts in #245 Nope. Scum needs towncred. Which but a better way than explaining gameplay? It'll make you look active but neutral at the same time. #193 Scum reads me, and gets town vibes from gwen in the same post, both his stances are uerstandable, and still generally answers my comments with agreement, even after voting me, which shows he doesn’t want to beat me like a dead horse, and still is trying to find other leads. Wouldn’t scum just push a lead as soon as they got one? But I guess this can be seen both ways. Town Post. Also I feel as scum wouldn’t mind being pocketed, but good scum would know this, and wouldn’t play off this too hard. Unless you both are buddies #201 He is generally ok with Sleips reasoning and still showing willingness to find more info. Distraction much? You said you gonna look at the good and bad. But all I see is you defending him For some reason after your ISO I feel like going back to my original thoughts and stay with the idea that LW and lucianroy are scum and the only way to find out is to lynch one of them. vote: lucianroy He accuses Zymf with no doubt (again) because he lacks in confindence this so called "bullshit". I am not supporting Zymf here, but a lack of confindence normally qualifies alignment cluelessness. What happens if Zymf flips town, you gonna say "shit happens" again? Until all of town is dead? |
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Aug 1, 2017 5:20 PM
#1038
lastwhisper31 said: Gwendolly said: I honestly dont know how to use that term, Roy is the only person Ive ever seen use it.I just googled WIFOM and ended up watching the scene from "The Princess Bride". Funny! xD I don't know how to use it either, hench why i've never used in it a single game. |
Aug 1, 2017 5:22 PM
#1039
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Aug 1, 2017 5:25 PM
#1041
Gwendolly said: @lastwhisper31 @lucianroy #30 Explains the usage of RVS, something I believe only a townie would say as if he was scum wouldn’t it be better to give as little information for town to use as possible. Town Post. Gives my exact thoughts in #245 Nope. Scum needs towncred. Which but a better way than explaining gameplay? It'll make you look active but neutral at the same time. #193 Scum reads me, and gets town vibes from gwen in the same post, both his stances are uerstandable, and still generally answers my comments with agreement, even after voting me, which shows he doesn’t want to beat me like a dead horse, and still is trying to find other leads. Wouldn’t scum just push a lead as soon as they got one? But I guess this can be seen both ways. Town Post. Also I feel as scum wouldn’t mind being pocketed, but good scum would know this, and wouldn’t play off this too hard. Unless you both are buddies #201 He is generally ok with Sleips reasoning and still showing willingness to find more info. Distraction much? You said you gonna look at the good and bad. But all I see is you defending him For some reason after your ISO I feel like going back to my original thoughts and stay with the idea that LW and lucianroy are scum and the only way to find out is to lynch one of them. vote: lucianroy He accuses Zymf with no doubt (again) because he lacks in confindence this so called "bullshit". I am not supporting Zymf here, but a lack of confindence normally qualifies alignment cluelessness. What happens if Zymf flips town, you gonna say "shit happens" again? Until all of town is dead? The 1st sentence is ironic coming from you, because I've already stated the same about you questioning all the mechanics talk and other shit as a way to make yourself look like engaged town. YOur still as flip floppy as ever I see lmao. Unless both zymf and Lucian are bussing the crap out of eachother one of those 2 are most likely scum. Also if another town does get lynched what else can you say? Someone has to lead the train, so if they end uo pushing on a town aligned palyer its just like Lucian called it. Shit happens and you should move on, we always gain something though new VCA. |
Aug 1, 2017 5:26 PM
#1042
Grapefruit21 said: Effective immeadiately @RE1031 replaces AlbertinoDias. Please give them a warm welcome! My DC rival has joined :D |
Aug 1, 2017 5:31 PM
#1043
Shinichi-Kun said: Gwendolly said: @lastwhisper31 @lucianroy #30 Explains the usage of RVS, something I believe only a townie would say as if he was scum wouldn’t it be better to give as little information for town to use as possible. Town Post. Gives my exact thoughts in #245 Nope. Scum needs towncred. Which but a better way than explaining gameplay? It'll make you look active but neutral at the same time. #193 Scum reads me, and gets town vibes from gwen in the same post, both his stances are uerstandable, and still generally answers my comments with agreement, even after voting me, which shows he doesn’t want to beat me like a dead horse, and still is trying to find other leads. Wouldn’t scum just push a lead as soon as they got one? But I guess this can be seen both ways. Town Post. Also I feel as scum wouldn’t mind being pocketed, but good scum would know this, and wouldn’t play off this too hard. Unless you both are buddies #201 He is generally ok with Sleips reasoning and still showing willingness to find more info. Distraction much? You said you gonna look at the good and bad. But all I see is you defending him For some reason after your ISO I feel like going back to my original thoughts and stay with the idea that LW and lucianroy are scum and the only way to find out is to lynch one of them. vote: lucianroy He accuses Zymf with no doubt (again) because he lacks in confindence this so called "bullshit". I am not supporting Zymf here, but a lack of confindence normally qualifies alignment cluelessness. What happens if Zymf flips town, you gonna say "shit happens" again? Until all of town is dead? The 1st sentence is ironic coming from you, because I've already stated the same about you questioning all the mechanics talk and other shit as a way to make yourself look like engaged town. YOur still as flip floppy as ever I see lmao. Unless both zymf and Lucian are bussing the crap out of eachother one of those 2 are most likely scum. Also if another town does get lynched what else can you say? Someone has to lead the train, so if they end uo pushing on a town aligned palyer its just like Lucian called it. Shit happens and you should move on, we always gain something though new VCA. I dont know why you keep mentioning the mechanics talk xD I simply just mentioned it because it was clearly a theme at that moment. I myself didnt even participate. I just didnt like that TPR was so deeply discussed. Since it clearly said there wasnt one. Haha yea sorry for my flip flopping, Im way too tolerant for this game. But I won't pull back now! Let's push this train please! Don't push a train 2 times or maybe even 3 times and then pretend like nothing happened tho. |
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Aug 1, 2017 5:32 PM
#1044
Gwendolly said: @lastwhisper31 @lucianroy #30 Explains the usage of RVS, something I believe only a townie would say as if he was scum wouldn’t it be better to give as little information for town to use as possible. Town Post. Gives my exact thoughts in #245 Nope. Scum needs towncred. Which but a better way than explaining gameplay? It'll make you look active but neutral at the same time. #193 Scum reads me, and gets town vibes from gwen in the same post, both his stances are uerstandable, and still generally answers my comments with agreement, even after voting me, which shows he doesn’t want to beat me like a dead horse, and still is trying to find other leads. Wouldn’t scum just push a lead as soon as they got one? But I guess this can be seen both ways. Town Post. Also I feel as scum wouldn’t mind being pocketed, but good scum would know this, and wouldn’t play off this too hard. Unless you both are buddies #201 He is generally ok with Sleips reasoning and still showing willingness to find more info. Distraction much? You said you gonna look at the good and bad. But all I see is you defending him For some reason after your ISO I feel like going back to my original thoughts and stay with the idea that LW and lucianroy are scum and the only way to find out is to lynch one of them. vote: lucianroy He accuses Zymf with no doubt (again) because he lacks in confindence this so called "bullshit". I am not supporting Zymf here, but a lack of confindence normally qualifies alignment cluelessness. What happens if Zymf flips town, you gonna say "shit happens" again? Until all of town is dead? Man my ISO made him more suspicious? and Me? and Hey is was my first ISO, I probably should have stayed more neutral. In some of my points I showed how both sides can be used, and you answer my questions with opposite thoughts, how did you conclude it was scum leading town over town leading scum? And Honestly I was just about to make a post about Lucians forcefulness, I think he needs to take a breather and understand where Zymfs coming from. But even zymf said he has doubt in his points lol, so where do we drawn the line on who has more doubts and who has the least to justify their actions. For part 2 I won't look at the bad or good then, no point in playing neutral, if town is gunna win, then I need to show people that I'm town a long side Lucian. Edit: Well at least he points are out in the open, people can come to their own opinions on his day 1 posts. Edit 2: I also guess me and you have different thoughts on how to play scum. |
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Aug 1, 2017 5:46 PM
#1045
lastwhisper31 said: Gwendolly said: @lastwhisper31 @lucianroy #30 Explains the usage of RVS, something I believe only a townie would say as if he was scum wouldn’t it be better to give as little information for town to use as possible. Town Post. Gives my exact thoughts in #245 Nope. Scum needs towncred. Which but a better way than explaining gameplay? It'll make you look active but neutral at the same time. #193 Scum reads me, and gets town vibes from gwen in the same post, both his stances are uerstandable, and still generally answers my comments with agreement, even after voting me, which shows he doesn’t want to beat me like a dead horse, and still is trying to find other leads. Wouldn’t scum just push a lead as soon as they got one? But I guess this can be seen both ways. Town Post. Also I feel as scum wouldn’t mind being pocketed, but good scum would know this, and wouldn’t play off this too hard. Unless you both are buddies #201 He is generally ok with Sleips reasoning and still showing willingness to find more info. Distraction much? You said you gonna look at the good and bad. But all I see is you defending him For some reason after your ISO I feel like going back to my original thoughts and stay with the idea that LW and lucianroy are scum and the only way to find out is to lynch one of them. vote: lucianroy He accuses Zymf with no doubt (again) because he lacks in confindence this so called "bullshit". I am not supporting Zymf here, but a lack of confindence normally qualifies alignment cluelessness. What happens if Zymf flips town, you gonna say "shit happens" again? Until all of town is dead? Man my ISO made him more suspicious? and Me? and Hey is was my first ISO, I probably should have stayed more neutral. In some of my points I showed how both sides can be used, and you answer my questions with opposite thoughts, how did you conclude it was scum leading town over town leading scum? And Honestly I was just about to make a post about Lucians forcefulness, I think he needs to take a breather and understand where Zymfs coming from. But even zymf said he has doubt in his points lol, so where do we drawn the line on who has more doubts and who has the least to justify their actions. For part 2 I won't look at the bad or good then, no point in playing neutral, if town is gunna win, then I need to show people that I'm town a long side Lucian. Edit: Well at least he points are out in the open, people can come to their own opinions on his day 1 posts. Edit 2: I also guess me and you have different thoughts on how to play scum. How? Because I think I'm in a pocket right now :) Why did you write that sentence in past tense btw? As if everything is already over :o |
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Aug 1, 2017 5:50 PM
#1046
lastwhisper31 said: @gwendolly, You know what, sometimes I forgot there is 8 other people still alive in this mafia game... Yea lol kinda not fair if one of the others are scum |
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Aug 1, 2017 5:52 PM
#1047
Zymf said: Gwendolly said: You shouldn't expect much from me in this game tbh. I try to be as active as I can, but I am quite busy IRL and when I'm not busy I'm tired. I even stated my activity might be spotty when I signed up. So yes, expect more lazy votes, long waiting times and maybe some disorientation ¯\_(ツ)_/¯You gonna vote disappear for 24 hours and then place your vote last minute again? Why did you even sign up then!? *headslaps you* |
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Aug 1, 2017 5:52 PM
#1048
Gwendolly said: Idk do you :)lastwhisper31 said: Gwendolly said: @lastwhisper31 @lucianroy #30 Explains the usage of RVS, something I believe only a townie would say as if he was scum wouldn’t it be better to give as little information for town to use as possible. Town Post. Gives my exact thoughts in #245 Nope. Scum needs towncred. Which but a better way than explaining gameplay? It'll make you look active but neutral at the same time. #193 Scum reads me, and gets town vibes from gwen in the same post, both his stances are uerstandable, and still generally answers my comments with agreement, even after voting me, which shows he doesn’t want to beat me like a dead horse, and still is trying to find other leads. Wouldn’t scum just push a lead as soon as they got one? But I guess this can be seen both ways. Town Post. Also I feel as scum wouldn’t mind being pocketed, but good scum would know this, and wouldn’t play off this too hard. Unless you both are buddies #201 He is generally ok with Sleips reasoning and still showing willingness to find more info. Distraction much? You said you gonna look at the good and bad. But all I see is you defending him For some reason after your ISO I feel like going back to my original thoughts and stay with the idea that LW and lucianroy are scum and the only way to find out is to lynch one of them. vote: lucianroy He accuses Zymf with no doubt (again) because he lacks in confindence this so called "bullshit". I am not supporting Zymf here, but a lack of confindence normally qualifies alignment cluelessness. What happens if Zymf flips town, you gonna say "shit happens" again? Until all of town is dead? Man my ISO made him more suspicious? and Me? and Hey is was my first ISO, I probably should have stayed more neutral. In some of my points I showed how both sides can be used, and you answer my questions with opposite thoughts, how did you conclude it was scum leading town over town leading scum? And Honestly I was just about to make a post about Lucians forcefulness, I think he needs to take a breather and understand where Zymfs coming from. But even zymf said he has doubt in his points lol, so where do we drawn the line on who has more doubts and who has the least to justify their actions. For part 2 I won't look at the bad or good then, no point in playing neutral, if town is gunna win, then I need to show people that I'm town a long side Lucian. Edit: Well at least he points are out in the open, people can come to their own opinions on his day 1 posts. Edit 2: I also guess me and you have different thoughts on how to play scum. How? Because I think I'm in a pocket right now :) Why did you write that sentence in past tense btw? As if everything is already over :o My tenses are all over the place sometimes, but if we want to look at the bolded statement, then tell me if you dont believe that then tell me whats going on here? and if you want I can rewrite the sentence to satisfy you... so How based off Lucian's posts can you come to a conclusion thats its scum leading town, rather then town looking for scum? |
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Aug 1, 2017 5:54 PM
#1049
lastwhisper31 said: Gwendolly said: Idk do you :)? My tenses are all over the place sometimes, but if we want to look at the bolded statement, then tell me if you dont believe that then tell me whats going on here? and if you want I can rewrite the sentence to satisfy you... so How based off Lucian's posts can you come to a conclusion thats its scum leading town, rather then town looking for scum?lastwhisper31 said: Gwendolly said: @lastwhisper31 @lucianroy #30 Explains the usage of RVS, something I believe only a townie would say as if he was scum wouldn’t it be better to give as little information for town to use as possible. Town Post. Gives my exact thoughts in #245 Nope. Scum needs towncred. Which but a better way than explaining gameplay? It'll make you look active but neutral at the same time. #193 Scum reads me, and gets town vibes from gwen in the same post, both his stances are uerstandable, and still generally answers my comments with agreement, even after voting me, which shows he doesn’t want to beat me like a dead horse, and still is trying to find other leads. Wouldn’t scum just push a lead as soon as they got one? But I guess this can be seen both ways. Town Post. Also I feel as scum wouldn’t mind being pocketed, but good scum would know this, and wouldn’t play off this too hard. Unless you both are buddies #201 He is generally ok with Sleips reasoning and still showing willingness to find more info. Distraction much? You said you gonna look at the good and bad. But all I see is you defending him For some reason after your ISO I feel like going back to my original thoughts and stay with the idea that LW and lucianroy are scum and the only way to find out is to lynch one of them. vote: lucianroy He accuses Zymf with no doubt (again) because he lacks in confindence this so called "bullshit". I am not supporting Zymf here, but a lack of confindence normally qualifies alignment cluelessness. What happens if Zymf flips town, you gonna say "shit happens" again? Until all of town is dead? Man my ISO made him more suspicious? and Me? and Hey is was my first ISO, I probably should have stayed more neutral. In some of my points I showed how both sides can be used, and you answer my questions with opposite thoughts, how did you conclude it was scum leading town over town leading scum? And Honestly I was just about to make a post about Lucians forcefulness, I think he needs to take a breather and understand where Zymfs coming from. But even zymf said he has doubt in his points lol, so where do we drawn the line on who has more doubts and who has the least to justify their actions. For part 2 I won't look at the bad or good then, no point in playing neutral, if town is gunna win, then I need to show people that I'm town a long side Lucian. Edit: Well at least he points are out in the open, people can come to their own opinions on his day 1 posts. Edit 2: I also guess me and you have different thoughts on how to play scum. How? Because I think I'm in a pocket right now :) Why did you write that sentence in past tense btw? As if everything is already over :o Let's just lynch him and find out? Or do you have a better candidate? |
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Aug 1, 2017 5:56 PM
#1050
| @Shinichi-kun what do you think of your brothers ISO? What do you think of him in general? I have a feeling you're trying not to collide with him. Now that could be indirect teamwork could it? |
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