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Nov 14, 2016 3:57 AM

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Okaeri~ :3

That's not really an object though, it's just the main-method you also need in C :3
#include <stdio.h>

int main() {
    printf("Hello World!");
    return 0;
}


Are there no 50€ smartphones available where you live? Since you work you should have that money, no? :3

In that case you're still a pervert who enjoys watching bad shows :>


Look at my edit :P
And so what I'm saying is that my teachers managed to teach us C++ somehow without ever writing that main-method :3

I don't know of any at least, and would they even let me browse the internet properly? xD

I'm no pervert :P
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Tyrantarmy6 said:
#include <iostream>

int main()
{
    std::cout << "Hello World!";
}

Gator said:
#include <stdio.h>

int main() {
    printf("Hello World!");
    return 0;
}

public class Test{

   public static void main(String[] args) {
          System.out.println("Hello World");
      }
}

See, it all kind of looks the same xD

Tyrantarmy6 said:
Look at my edit :P
And so what I'm saying is that my teachers managed to teach us C++ somehow without ever writing that main-method :3

I don't know of any at least, and would they even let me browse the internet properly? xD

I'm no pervert :P

You're too slow :P
He did? Wait how did your programs work then? O_O

My mum got one for 100 bucks and there's no problem using the internet there :3

Still in denial?
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Nov 14, 2016 3:58 AM

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Hehe that's understandable :3
I wuv u 2 senpai <3
Though I have to say...

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Nov 14, 2016 4:00 AM

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See, it all kind of looks the same xD


And then there's php :3
class Test
{
    public function __construct()
    {
        echo "Hello world!";
    }
}
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Tyrantarmy6 said:
And then there's php :3

You forgot HTML.. :3

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Nov 14, 2016 4:05 AM

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#shitposting

How is this game called? :3
Looks interesting :3
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Tyrantarmy6 said:
And then there's php :3
class Test
{
    public function __construct()
    {
        echo "Hello world!";
    }
}

Still doesn't look a lot different :3

Plutia said:
You forgot HTML.. :3

That's just boring xD
<html>
    <body>Hello World!</body>
</html>
Nov 14, 2016 4:05 AM

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You forgot HTML.. :3


HTML is no programming language so that doesn't count :3
<!doctype html>
<html>
    <head>
        <title>Test</title>
    </head>

    <body>
        <p>Hello world!</p>
    </body>
</html>
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Nov 14, 2016 4:06 AM

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How is this game called? :3
Looks interesting :3

Not out yet.. :3


Gator said:
That's just boring xD
<html>
    <body>Hello World!</body>
</html>

Before you jump to PHP you need to know HTML.. XD

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Nov 14, 2016 4:07 AM

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Still doesn't look a lot different :3


Except no one in php will write a class to output hello world since it's a procedural language and as such classes would be considered "over kill". The entire concept of return types didn't even exist before php 7 which is still quite new :3
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Nov 14, 2016 4:09 AM

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Robiiii said:
How is this game called? :3
Looks interesting :3

Not out yet.. :3


Gator said:
That's just boring xD
<html>
    <body>Hello World!</body>
</html>

Before you jump to PHP you need to know HTML.. XD

:c

But still, name pls? :3
Nov 14, 2016 4:09 AM

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But still, name pls? :3

It's HTML: Hyper Text Markup Language
Pretty basic code for web programming stuff.. :>

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Nov 14, 2016 4:11 AM

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But still, name pls? :3

It's HTML: Hyper Text Markup Language
Pretty basic code for web programming stuff.. :>

Sounds like u need some dick pics :p
Nov 14, 2016 4:12 AM

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Except no one in php will write a class to output hello world since it's a procedural language and as such classes would be considered "over kill". The entire concept of return types didn't even exist before php 7 which is still quite new :3

That's one of the annoying things in Java, you need a class for everything no matter how small the problem is :3
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It's HTML: Hyper Text Markup Language
Pretty basic code for web programming stuff.. :>


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Sounds like u need some dick pics :p

Then, learn how to quote correctly.. XD



Are you happY?? XD

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Nov 14, 2016 4:14 AM

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How is this game called? :3
Looks interesting :3

Not out yet :3

Name pls oneechan :3
Nov 14, 2016 4:15 AM

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Name pls oneechan :3

Japanese School Life :3

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Nov 14, 2016 4:19 AM

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Robiiii said:
Name pls oneechan :3

Japanese School Life :3

;_____________________;




Not a hentai. So its trash :3
Nov 14, 2016 4:22 AM

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That's one of the annoying things in Java, you need a class for everything no matter how small the problem is :3


Then how about this? :P
PHP is a so called "weak-typed" language and will figure out variable types for you. This makes things super easy since you can make a variable, put a string in it, and then convert it to an int or whatever you want. Unfortunately however this can result in lots of issues as well.
For example, what do you think is the result of this comparison in php? :3
"aafd9f7b678fdefca" == 0


Plutia said:
Are you happY?? XD


Well, you seemed to be deliberately trolling him so I had to post that pic xD
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Robiiii said:
Not a hentai. So its trash :3

Zettai Saikyou ☆ Oppai Sensou!! ~Kyonyuu Oukoku vs Hinnyuu Oukoku~

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Nov 14, 2016 4:28 AM

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Robiiii said:
Not a hentai. So its trash :3

Zettai Saikyou ☆ Oppai Sensou!! ~Kyonyuu Oukoku vs Hinnyuu Oukoku~

Cool xD
Nov 14, 2016 4:28 AM

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Then how about this? :P
PHP is a so called "weak-typed" language and will figure out variable types for you. This makes things super easy since you can make a variable, put a string in it, and then convert it to an int or whatever you want. Unfortunately however this can result in lots of issues as well.
For example, what do you think is the result of this comparison in php? :3
"aafd9f7b678fdefca" == 0

Don't know what errors PHP would display in such cases, in Java it would lead to a compile error :3

I prefer strong-typed languages like Java and C to weak-typed ones like PHP and JavaScript, it's just not as error prone :3

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[Zettai Saikyou ☆ Oppai Sensou!! ~Kyonyuu Oukoku vs Hinnyuu Oukoku~

Nov 14, 2016 4:35 AM

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Don't know what errors PHP would display in such cases, in Java it would lead to a compile error :3

I prefer strong-typed languages like Java and C to weak-typed ones like PHP and JavaScript, it's just not as error prone :3


That's the thing with php, it doesn't return any errors, warnings or anything. It will return true ^^
The first string contains numbers and is therefore a numerical string which in php will be converted to 0 which then returns true. So when checking hashes you should never use the == operator since they'll always return true.
So you have the === operator which does type checking.
But because of this you have to be very careful when using things like ==. Let's say you have a class with some parameters in a method. If one of these is user input then you must be careful that php doesn't convert it into anything else. If you pass a string into a function that expects an int, then it'll throw a warning (script continues), and converts it to a null. In php a null == false == 0 ^^
Now imagine what kind of unexpected behaviour that can lead to and as a result the security issues :3

In that little project at home for example I wrote a custom warning/error/exception handler method that will make sure that any warnings etc that get thrown will be treated the same as an exception. In other words logged and then crashes the script into a 500 error :3
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Nov 14, 2016 4:38 AM

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The quantity of oppai must not exceed 3 or more boobs.
Ye you heard me right
Nov 14, 2016 4:41 AM

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That's the thing with php, it doesn't return any errors, warnings or anything. It will return true ^^
The first string contains numbers and is therefore a numerical string which in php will be converted to 0 which then returns true. So when checking hashes you should never use the == operator since they'll always return true.
So you have the === operator which does type checking.
But because of this you have to be very careful when using things like ==. Let's say you have a class with some parameters in a method. If one of these is user input then you must be careful that php doesn't convert it into anything else. If you pass a string into a function that expects an int, then it'll throw a warning (script continues), and converts it to a null. In php a null == false == 0 ^^
Now imagine what kind of unexpected behaviour that can lead to and as a result the security issues :3

In that little project at home for example I wrote a custom warning/error/exception handler method that will make sure that any warnings etc that get thrown will be treated the same as an exception. In other words logged and then crashes the script into a 500 error :3

PHP seems to be pretty awful then, though I guess JavaScript would do the same. On the other side I also think that JavaScript is a horrible programming language xD

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The quantity of oppai must not exceed 3 or more boobs.
Ye you heard me right

U wot?
Nov 14, 2016 4:46 AM

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PHP seems to be pretty awful then, though I guess JavaScript would do the same. On the other side I also think that JavaScript is a horrible programming language xD


PHP just likes to make things less frustrating I guess xD
Well, at least that error handler I wrote fixes the issue of it not terminating the script when a warning gets thrown :3

Well I guess that both are scripting languages rather than programming languages so maybe that's why you don't like them? xD
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Nov 14, 2016 4:49 AM

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PHP just likes to make things less frustrating I guess xD
Well, at least that error handler I wrote fixes the issue of it not terminating the script when a warning gets thrown :3

Well I guess that both are scripting languages rather than programming languages so maybe that's why you don't like them? xD

You call that less frustrating? I can see every beginner running into this error immediately xD

I think my dislike for me rather comes from my general dislike for web development, since you pretty much only find them there :3
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Thats fucked up xD
Reminds me of this :3
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You call that less frustrating? I can see every beginner running into this error immediately xD

I think my dislike for me rather comes from my general dislike for web development, since you pretty much only find them there :3


From what I've seen a lot of beginners just don't get the concept of variable types like the difference between an int and a float :P

Javascript is also used elsewhere though like node.js :3
There's also a bunch of game engines that seem to use a scripting language based off of javascript for scripting purposes :3
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Robiiii said:
Thats fucked up xD
Reminds me of this :3

Uggh where do you find stuff like that? >.<

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From what I've seen a lot of beginners just don't get the concept of variable types like the difference between an int and a float :P

Javascript is also used elsewhere though like node.js :3
There's also a bunch of game engines that seem to use a scripting language based off of javascript for scripting purposes :3

Once again a reason why you should use strong types, there the difference is much clearer :3

How is node.js not web development? :P
Yeah sometimes it gets used as scripting language, but python gets used for that way more often. Also the engine itself is written in C++ most of the time :3
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Once again a reason why you should use strong types, there the difference is much clearer :3

How is node.js not web development? :P
Yeah sometimes it gets used as scripting language, but python gets used for that way more often. Also the engine itself is written in C++ most of the time :3


Too difficult for the average noob :P
In my class I was one of only what seemed like 2 people who even understood how to use arrays xD

Node js is also used for mobile applications :3
That does depend on the engine for example. In unity for example you can write the entire game in JS if you so desired xD
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Too difficult for the average noob :P
In my class I was one of only what seemed like 2 people who even understood how to use arrays xD

Node js is also used for mobile applications :3
That does depend on the engine for example. In unity for example you can write the entire game in JS if you so desired xD

And that's why you should start with the basics when teaching new people, learn C first xD

People use node.js for mobile applications that have nothing to do with the web? O_O
Another reason not to use Unity, that's like writing your whole web application in SQL xD
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And that's why you should start with the basics when teaching new people, learn C first xD

People use node.js for mobile applications that have nothing to do with the web? O_O
Another reason not to use Unity, that's like writing your whole web application in SQL xD


They did start with basics like if structs, for loops and variables though :3
And if you really wanna start at the basics then pic assembly xD

I've seen that yes :3
Well I did say you could if you wanted to. You can also use C# and coffeescript if you want to with C# being the main language by far :3
When it comes to programming things I'd say that unity seems to be better than unreal engine. Unreal engine allows you to make really pretty things, but it focuses on visual scripting and what not. It seems you can't even make proper loading screens without rewriting the whole engine in unreal (with progress bars I mean) ^^
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They did start with basics like if structs, for loops and variables though :3
And if you really wanna start at the basics then pic assembly xD

I've seen that yes :3
Well I did say you could if you wanted to. You can also use C# and coffeescript if you want to with C# being the main language by far :3
When it comes to programming things I'd say that unity seems to be better than unreal engine. Unreal engine allows you to make really pretty things, but it focuses on visual scripting and what not. It seems you can't even make proper loading screens without rewriting the whole engine in unreal (with progress bars I mean) ^^

They probably didn't tell you about pointers and memory allocation though :3
Nah, assembly is way too different from the languages you'll actually use ^^

That seems unnecessarily complicated O_O
I'm not really interested in proprietary engines anyway, if I had to choose one it would probably be Source Engine 2 since I#d want to release the game for Steam anyway :3
The engine shouldn't be that important anyway, every engine can look gorgeous if you have great 3D models >.<
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Twitter :3
Its a goldmine for memes :3
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Twitter :3
Its a goldmine for memes :3

It is? I never look on twitter, seems like a waste of time :3
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They probably didn't tell you about pointers and memory allocation though :3
Nah, assembly is way too different from the languages you'll actually use ^^

That seems unnecessarily complicated O_O
I'm not really interested in proprietary engines anyway, if I had to choose one it would probably be Source Engine 2 since I#d want to release the game for Steam anyway :3
The engine shouldn't be that important anyway, every engine can look gorgeous if you have great 3D models >.<


Of course not, that's not exactly a simple concept when compared to variables :P
True, but it's basic xD

I guess. At least unity is free to use though (unless you want the pro version of course) unlike UE :3
I don't really agree with that, when it comes to graphics the engine does count unless you know how to write your own shaders and lighting engine and what not.
Even the best models will look like crap if the lighting sucks compared to good lighting :3
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Twitter :3
Its a goldmine for memes :3

It is? I never look on twitter, seems like a waste of time :3

Only when ur doing it wrong :3
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Of course not, that's not exactly a simple concept when compared to variables :P
True, but it's basic xD

I guess. At least unity is free to use though (unless you want the pro version of course) unlike UE :3
I don't really agree with that, when it comes to graphics the engine does count unless you know how to write your own shaders and lighting engine and what not.
Even the best models will look like crap if the lighting sucks compared to good lighting :3

It's important to know how that stuff works though, just because the VM tends to do that stuff for you, doesn't mean you won't run into errors because of it :3

I disagree with you here, I rather have bad lighting and good models than the other way around. Even with lighting and shadow mods and whatnot Minecraft still looks like crap since you run around with a body that consists of squares :3

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Only when ur doing it wrong :3

And how do you do it right? :3
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Of course not, that's not exactly a simple concept when compared to variables :P
True, but it's basic xD

I guess. At least unity is free to use though (unless you want the pro version of course) unlike UE :3
I don't really agree with that, when it comes to graphics the engine does count unless you know how to write your own shaders and lighting engine and what not.
Even the best models will look like crap if the lighting sucks compared to good lighting :3

It's important to know how that stuff works though, just because the VM tends to do that stuff for you, doesn't mean you won't run into errors because of it :3

I disagree with you here, I rather have bad lighting and good models than the other way around. Even with lighting and shadow mods and whatnot Minecraft still looks like crap since you run around with a body that consists of squares :3

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Only when ur doing it wrong :3

And how do you do it right? :3

Follow the right people :3
Pretty straightforward if u ask me :3
With that i mean people u really care about, like musicians and potential dungeon sex slave :3
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Follow the right people :3
Pretty straightforward if u ask me :3
With that i mean people u really care about, like musicians and potential dungeon sex slave :3

But won't people you care about post good stuff instead of the crap you give us here all the time? :3
*ignores the sex slave thing*
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It's important to know how that stuff works though, just because the VM tends to do that stuff for you, doesn't mean you won't run into errors because of it :3

I disagree with you here, I rather have bad lighting and good models than the other way around. Even with lighting and shadow mods and whatnot Minecraft still looks like crap since you run around with a body that consists of squares :3


But if you're still at the stage of learning how to write if structures at a school that doesn't even mention the very existence of either those or OOP then I think it's still a bit too early to tackle such a subject :3

Minecraft is a bit of an extreme example, but you have to agree that minecraft with good lighting at least looks better than vanilla xD
I've seen plenty of examples of how much of a difference good lighting can make. Shadows are cast by lighting for example. Even a very good model can look flat without good lighting. Just look at the difference between a finished model (textured etc) in blender before and after you put it into one of dem cycles lighting scenes :3
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Follow the right people :3
Pretty straightforward if u ask me :3
With that i mean people u really care about, like musicians and potential dungeon sex slave :3

But won't people you care about post good stuff instead of the crap you give us here all the time? :3
*ignores the sex slave thing*

But that is the point, no? :3
And on meme twitter profiles u get stuff like that pic above, its yum yum :3
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But if you're still at the stage of learning how to write if structures at a school that doesn't even mention the very existence of either those or OOP then I think it's still a bit too early to tackle such a subject :3

Minecraft is a bit of an extreme example, but you have to agree that minecraft with good lighting at least looks better than vanilla xD
I've seen plenty of examples of how much of a difference good lighting can make. Shadows are cast by lighting for example. Even a very good model can look flat without good lighting. Just look at the difference between a finished model (textured etc) in blender before and after you put it into one of dem cycles lighting scenes :3

I would say the earlier the better, I mean that's basically what the machine does in the background. If you make an array it would be nice to know what is happening, though I can agree that it might not be the first thing you have to learn :3

Obviously better lighting improves the graphics xD
Of course lighting and shadows are important as well. I just would rather want to look at a pretty 3D model without any shadows than looking at a crappy 3D model with shadows that got ray-traced. Which is why I always tend to deactivate shadows first in a game that lags on my machien :3

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But that is the point, no? :3
And on meme twitter profiles u get stuff like that pic above, its yum yum :3

That pic... is yum yum? O_O
For the next four years we'll have so many Trump memes anyway that we probably won't need to search for them :3
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For the next four years we'll have so many Trump memes anyway

Plus we got a lot Trump game.. XD

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Plus we got a lot Trump game.. XD

We do? Haven't seen one so far :3
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And I literally bought that "The Trump presidency - Make America Great Again" game 1 week before the election at $3
Now ,it's on sale on $1.5 O_O
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We do? Haven't seen one so far :3


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