| I didn't say that it was. This is about belief, not innocence. Again, what you're saying doesn't make sense. A not guilty person can only be "guilty" if people unjustly charge them for crimes they did not commit. In actuality, they're innocent.[/color] how does this not make sense not believing something IS NOT a belief, which is the entire point... atheist is not believing that theres a god, not knowing there is no god, no atheist KNOWS there is no god and you're just wrong, you can be an agnostic and an atheist or a theist, you cannot be just agnostic agnosticism has to do with what you know, not what you believe you can believe something but not know it for sure, that includes god if you believe theres a god but don't know theres a god, you're an agnostic theist if you don't believe theres a god, but dont know theres not one, you're an agnostic atheist therefore you cannot be just agnostic, cause you either believe there is a god or you don't Actually, not all dictionary sites tell you how words are used. Only some, like Urban dictionary. You can't be an Agnostic and an Atheist or Theist at the same time, that's not logical. Like Phendrus said, the very definition of Agnosticism, is believing in neither without any bias. Obviously if you're an Atheist or Theist, that clashes. dictionaries update based on usage, the meaning of a word is not as important as the usage, that is why languages evolve and change over time example: "gay" was once used to mean happy... no one uses it that way anymore, so even though that defintion may be in the dictionary, its irrelevant nowadays. what does it matter what a dictionary definition says if no one abides by it? words existed before writing, therefore before dictionaries |
EcchiGodMamsterOct 18, 2016 8:24 PM
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ModeratelyHuman said: 1. Im not a prissy faggot that gets offended. 2. I am an agnostic athiest, that cant really be criticized. I havent seen anything that criticizes it in a serious medium. Because atheism is a logically secure and reasonable "belief" with no flaws to begin with. 3. I have seen anime that insult Buddhism which hardly bothers me. Buddhism is one of the very few religions I actually respect. It's important to respect all forms of religion if you ask me. Although religion may not make sense / appeal to you, people out there genuinely believe that there is life after death, in one form or another (depending on the religion). It really doesn't matter if you agree with that point of view, but it is important to respect the people who do uphold religious beliefs, exactly like they should respect your beliefs. After all, no matter how logically "sound" atheism seems, none of us have died, and thus criticizing what others believe regarding what comes after death is rather pointless, since none of us have sound evidence of what happens to us when we die. That's just my take on it though, you do you man. |
Kuma said: i am muslim, so almost all of them are insult my belive, but why i have take it serious? it's entertaining medium, not "NO GO FRENCH ZONE" fox news try to make. but sometimes, some of their ignorance are kinda funny TBH. What sort of things in anime go against your beliefs? This is interesting to me. |
| Some I have watched have offended my religious beliefs, but in the end its just a show. |
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AIDSKrillex said: ToaofJustice said: It still hasnt no evidence that God isnt real though. And nope, Science hasnt disprove the existence of God. Just because u cannot see the dood doesnt mean he isnt realYou can't not believe in something if it isn't actually real. And religion has in no way proved that a God exists. You guys have the burden of proof, not us. |
EcchiLordMamster said: I didn't say that it was. This is about belief, not innocence. Again, what you're saying doesn't make sense. A not guilty person can only be "guilty" if people unjustly charge them for crimes they did not commit. In actuality, they're innocent.[/color] how does this not make sense not believing something IS NOT a belief, which is the entire point... atheist is not believing that theres a god, not knowing there is no god, no atheist KNOWS there is no god and you're just wrong, you can be an agnostic and an atheist or a theist, you cannot be just agnostic agnosticism has to do with what you know, not what you believe you can believe something but not know it for sure, that includes god if you believe theres a god but don't know theres a god, you're an agnostic theist if you don't believe theres a god, but dont know theres not one, you're an agnostic atheist therefore you cannot be just agnostic, cause you either believe there is a god or you don't It makes no sense because it isn't true. If you're an Atheist or Theist, you know in your heart whether God exists or not. Only Agnostics are the exception. Have you seriously never read comments from people mocking the idea of a god existing? I've seen it countless times. They're all Atheists, else they wouldn't act that way. They don't necessarily need proof, they already decided that He doesn't exist. They "know" it. Theists are the same. If every Atheist or Theist would automatically be an Agnostic as well, there would be no need for the term to even exist. It invalidates the entire meaning. Agnostics wouldn't be Agnostics if they were convinced that God exists or not. You're the one who's wrong. EcchiLordMamster said: Actually, not all dictionary sites tell you how words are used. Only some, like Urban dictionary. You can't be an Agnostic and an Atheist or Theist at the same time, that's not logical. Like Phendrus said, the very definition of Agnosticism, is believing in neither without any bias. Obviously if you're an Atheist or Theist, that clashes. dictionaries update based on usage, the meaning of a word is not as important as the usage, that is why languages evolve and change over time example: "gay" was once used to mean happy... no one uses it that way anymore, so even though that defintion may be in the dictionary, its irrelevant nowadays. what does it matter what a dictionary definition says if no one abides by it? The usage of a word may be more important, but that doesn't make the original meaning irrelevant if it has changed. It's always good to know the original definition of a word, and it increases your vocabulary. I had a discussion with someone on here about the difference between theft and piracy not too long ago. Too many people think that piracy is the same as stealing, so they will just call you a thief regardless of the difference. But it's not the same. Stealing is taking the content away from the owner(s), piracy is copying it. If you want to look educated, you'd do well to know what you're talking about before you even enter a discussion. |
Apoc_RevolutionOct 18, 2016 9:06 PM
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| Ignoring the pointless semantics going on at the moment: No, I would not drop an anime even if it offended my beliefs, whatever they may be. I used to be a Christian, but now I am an agnostic theist. Some of my beliefs that I got while being religious are kinda stuck with me (kinda hard to change those when 1. you chose them 2. you were one since childhood), but any time a show takes a jab at religion I pretty much ignore it, recognizing that these are, for the most part, characters expressing their opinions and such, not necessarily the author of the work. |
| It makes no sense because it isn't true. If you're an Atheist or Theist, you know in your heart whether God exists or not. Only Agnostics are the exception. Have you seriously never read comments from people mocking the idea of a god existing? I've seen it countless times. They're all Atheists, else they wouldn't act that way. They don't necessarily need proof, they already decided that He doesn't exist. They "know" it. Theists are the same. If every Atheist or Theist would automatically be an Agnostic as well, there would be no need for the term to even exist. It invalidates the entire meaning. Agnostics wouldn't be Agnostics if they were convinced that God exists or not. You're the one who's wrong. you are a fucking troll... no one knows for 100% sure whether or not there is a god, because it can't be proven and people know it can't be proven. the difference is an atheist is much likely to acknowledge that they cannot prove there is no god there is NO SUCH THING as just an agnostic, in order to know something you first have to have a belief if you see the fur of a big creature for a split second in the woods, you can say you know it was a bear... but what if its not? do you know FOR SURE its a bear? no, what if it was a wild hog? you know what it is when you can prove what it is, if you can't prove something, you can only believe, therefore you'd have to believe it was a bear knowledge is justified belief or belief that can be proven... if you can't prove it, then you can't know for sure that is why you can't just be agnostic mocking the idea of god is no different than mocking the belief in anything that that hasn't yet been proven, it doesn't mean we've already decided he doesn't exist, who are you to know whether or not atheists have decided god doesn't exist? no honest atheist is going to tell you they know for sure theres no god just because you haven't proven someone is guilty doesn't mean you've decided theyre innocent, idfk why you can't wrap your head around that fact well just because we have no evidence for god doesn't mean we've decided he doesn't exist, it just means we don't believe it The usage of a word may be more important, but that doesn't make the original meaning irrelevant if it has changed. It's always good to know the original definition of a word, and it increases your vocabulary. I had a discussion with someone on here about the difference between theft and piracy not too long ago. Too many people think piracy is the same as stealing, but it's not. Stealing is taking the content away from the owner(s), piracy is copying it. If you want to look educated, you'd do well to know what you're talking about before you even enter a discussion. the first part about increasing your vocabulary is irrelevant.... words came before writing, therefore they came before dictionaries. to claim that a dictionary is about the meaning is to act as if the dictionary came first. well it didn't, people wrote the way words are USED in a dictionary, which is why dictionaries constantly update language controls dictionaries, dictionaries do not control language and nice pointless attack at the end, you're just wrong -___- |
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I'll end this here because nothing I say will convince you and I can see that this is going nowhere. We'll just have to agree to disagree. Have a nice day. |
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Apoc_Revolution said: I'll end this here because nothing I say will convince you and I can see that this is going nowhere. We'll just have to agree to disagree. Have a nice day. because its wrong... you can't tell me what i know, and i do not KNOW there is no god, i only don't believe there is one the entire point is that not believing in something is not a belief if it is, then turning your TV off is the same thing as changing the channel or being bald is another hairstyle |
EcchiGodMamsterOct 18, 2016 9:35 PM
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CrashD said: Kuma said: i am muslim, so almost all of them are insult my belive, but why i have take it serious? it's entertaining medium, not "NO GO FRENCH ZONE" fox news try to make. but sometimes, some of their ignorance are kinda funny TBH. What sort of things in anime go against your beliefs? This is interesting to me. from basic things, anime alwasy encouraging either polytheism or atheism... just sumply basic things... |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Kuma said: from basic things, anime alwasy encouraging either polytheism or atheism... just sumply basic things... But as you said, it's just a show. Someone else beliefs shouldn't stop you from enjoying a show that you like, right? |
CrashD said: exactly my friend... and no, i don't take them seriously at all...Kuma said: from basic things, anime alwasy encouraging either polytheism or atheism... just sumply basic things... But as you said, it's just a show. Someone else beliefs shouldn't stop you from enjoying a show that you like, right? |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| I would, but it doesn't always happen. For example, microwaves that do magical banana shit and let you text through time go against my beliefs, and while I should have dropped the anime, I didn't. |
| Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
CrashD said: >resurrecting a dead thread on a dead websiteAIDSKrillex said: It still hasnt no evidence that God isnt real though. And nope, Science hasnt disprove the existence of God. Just because u cannot see the dood doesnt mean he isnt real And religion has in no way proved that a God exists. You guys have the burden of proof, not us. and no one fucking cares you fucking heretic. Stop asking for (you)s from me its annoying on my fucking feed |
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romagia said: Otaku-Gunso said: huh 0o what was so offensive in Vampire Holmes?luckly there hasn't been too many instances of this but I remember dropping Vampire Holmes for this reason. From what I remember one of the characters was hanging from a cross in the opening. I may watch anime and a lot at that considering my folks gave me so many problems over it in my youth but at the end of the day I am still a Christian. Anime doesn't generally mess with Christianity in any way shape or form(often) but that one part even if it was in the opening of a very short anime was still a bit much for me anyway. |
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| NO because "the more you know, the more you don't know " SO, yeah keep wacthing :) |
| I wouldn't because I hardly take anything that happens in anime seriously. They're meant for entertainment and not to stress over it |
AIDSKrillex said: CrashD said: >resurrecting a dead thread on a dead websiteAnd religion has in no way proved that a God exists. You guys have the burden of proof, not us. and no one fucking cares you fucking heretic. Stop asking for (you)s from me its annoying on my fucking feed This is not a dead thread or else it wouldn't be on the front page... |
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