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willardhwright said: poptartnyan said: Yup! If you play "DanganRonpa: Another Episode" it shows you exactly what him and Toko are doing this very moment! Basically Toko and Togami are busy...and will be busy probably for the rest of this anime. The timeline doesn't fit though so it's not "at the exact moment". Which is the problem. Yeah, this takes place after DR2 and Togami was there, so he could be at Towa at this very moment, but he was not there the entire time since the finale of DR:AE... |
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| What if Hope's Peak Scouter guy is the traitor?, He was like, the only one who did not want conflict with anyone, and he was the one who did not point Naegi as the traitor...In this 2 episodes he was the least active person...I wonder what will be his role in this... |
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nobody199 said: I just want to point one thing: the traitor is someone who has been a considerable amout of time inside of the foundation. Because of that, the traitor is, first things first, a spy. Spies are manipulative, avoids perception, knows how to become one with the environment. I'm saying this because everything stands out about gekkogahara: She's introverted She has a childish appearance She is physically weak As if asking to be pointed as the traitor and that, by MY analysis, she represents everything a spy would not do. Search for "the gray man directive" or even watch Jason Bourne and you will get where I'm coming from. Maybe that's overthinking, but the idea of a opponent who uses deception makes everything looks deceptive for you and sometimes a shy girl is really....a shy girl. I guess the idea is that if you want to avoid being noticed, you behave in a way that isn't noticeable. I'm not too big on her being the culprit, a lot of people are more suspicious (and no, I'm not talking about the damned boxer, he's pretty low on my list). First of all what most theories lack for now is one very basic thing: the motive. "Because despair" is quite easy, but the details are the problem, if the motive is left aside it can be pretty much anyone at this moment, nothing is specific enough MO-wise. This chandelier is bothering me too, even a big guy like Gou would have an hard time putting someone on it without a latter without destroying the chandelier/the corpse by throwing it, so wtf? Well, she was probably killed before and put here afterward so that they wouldn't notice her before Monokuma's speech, I guess? And also the reason for the choice of the order of the victims; maid-chan and Asahina were obvious enough because they were "nice", ut it also means that the people who were close to them would have no reason to kill them FIRSt (even if they would have to kill them in the end anyway, you usually don't start with your best friend which is the only one truly supporting you when there is already a conflict between two sides; you try to keep useful people for the longuest you can). It's not like DR1 where there was multiple killers so no real order could be decided; here there is a reason for said order. And this alone is probably one of the very few hints available for now, why X died at any specific moment and not before (say, Aoi at the first blackout if they wanted to weaken Naegi's side.. ESPECIALLY if the culpriit was Munakataor someone close to him since they wanted to decide it by vote; one less opponent = one less vote. Yes the others wouldn't know that they will vote to chose the killer afterward, but the killer himself could have guessed that easily and could have used it to weaken one side, rather than weakening "his own". Although granted, Yuki wasn't as much of an "extremist" than the others which could have ""helped""). HyperL said: What if Hope's Peak Scouter guy is the traitor?, He was like, the only one who did not want conflict with anyone, and he was the one who did not point Naegi as the traitor...In this 2 episodes he was the least active person...I wonder what will be his role in this... He's suspicious in any case. But I don't think I would say that he is more likely than any other. However it wouldn't surprise me if he knew things other don't, especially given his talent. Like some internal (power?) struggles or something. Munakata being the one really deciding of everything when the head is supposed to be the old guy is definitely kind of "uh?", especially since they seem to seem to be quite different "mean-wise' in order to achieve their goal. For all we know, the "killer" could even be a ""good guy"" wanting to, I quote one of the characters even if it was in another context, "remove all the rotten parts so that the whole thing will not fall apart". (Of course, Asahina's death isi a major problem with this since she was unrelated to any power struggle; apparently the killer DOES NOT want Makoto to die. He just want him to suffer. But not die. Which makes some characters that really like Naegi pretty suspicious and I'm not only talking about Gozu here...) By all means, Munakata and the boxer would be the most suspicious because of their goals but they would probably kill Naegi if they had the chance to. Also, it doesn't fit with the boxer's personality; the killing game will not stop would not stop with Naegi's death. It would continue without it. The boxer may hate Naegi, but there are a lot of other characters that he doesn't, so except for the suicide option it fits "pragmatism"-wise but not really personnality-wise. I really don't "like" the blacksmith and his friend but we don't have enough informations for now to judge, even personality-wise, except for the facct that killing doesn't seem to be a big deal for them given the threat to... Aoi, I think? In ep1. Yeah, this takes place after DR2 and Togami was there, so he could be at Towa at this very moment, but he was not there the entire time since the finale of DR:AE... That or for some reason Nagito has a clone, which would be.. yeah. Although I'm pretty sure the fangirls would be very pleased with two instead of one. They left the poor Togami alone in the same place for months/years (from AE to the end of DR 2 ) with a crazy perveted yandere stalker. I pity him., I can't imagine what he went through. |
willardhwrightJul 19, 2016 8:54 PM
Gigi_Makoi said: Does anyone else feel that Monomi is part of the game as well maybe she is considered as one of the survivors and when maiya wheelchair gets destroyed she has no choice but to use her own voice Yes, as I said earlier about the "one survivor too much in the op"; I'd rathergo with something that isn't seen as a character for now being a character (say, Monomi?) or something like that If you want to go even a little further for fun, go Monomi > AI Mukuro since Monokuma goes al "LITTLE SISTER!!" about her. I'm semi-joking about this one (Mukuro) though. But it would be quite interesting. In any case the number of people in the op is troublesome. We have to put one more character that isn't there SOMEWHERE. It may be Hagakure, Monomi, or whatever, but somewhere. And god I hope they ill not give us some split personality nonsense, OH GOD PLEASE. |
ImaginBreaker said: One other thing. It's hard to imagine this being played straight. I can't see the finale of the whole Danganronpa series ending with some killing game and seeing the two cast get taken over by Junko. Also these stories don't have enough legs for 12 episodes, things are progressing too quickly. We still need to tie up the cliffhanger at the end of two and fixing the whole world. So I think the stories will connect and it won't just be a simple anime. Also we still need to take care of Monaca and get Toko and Komaru back. So yea I don't think these two anime are going to be simple. Lots of things to close up. The stories WILL connect. In fact they are supposed to be connected. The author confirmed it himself. So I guess the worl'd bigest catastrophe blablablabla and Izuru will have some kind of role in DR3- mirai hen. This doesn't go against it being played straight, though, and a killing game doesn't mean "Junko win", very, very far from that. There will be dead people yes but it's true since DR1. It doesn't make a "the bad guy win" Also it's possible that it will not explain everything when it comes to side games etc. The author ALSO said that it's the grand finale, but other authors can go "deeper" about other characters (he didn't give any name but you get the idea. Basically it ends the main story but [x]'s story could be done as a novel later.) |
willardhwrightJul 19, 2016 10:16 PM
| Not too bad. Aoi though.. T_T Whatever happened to Toko though? Didn't she survive in the first game? (Nevermind, I read the rest of the thread.) |
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zxy5 said: FrozenSheep said: The traitor isn't allowed to kill the MC directly, so he kills everyone who is likely to defend him. Leaving blood on his hand gives me this impression.( The traitor could have a fake bracelet and pretend to have restrictions like others. Bandai being dead is also an uncertainty. Couldn't he have taken the antidote before being injected with poison? Only if you suspect more and more people of being accomplices. You usually notice when someone dies. Even if Kiri didn't look at the corpses (which ISN'T natural for her, the big joke abot her WAS her "necrophilia" because of how she alway went straight at them without any problem to gather data; so it's likely related to her rule; I'm betting about a "no direct investigation about the death" which would explain why investigating the walls were ok), most people would be able to knw if something who just """lived"""" a violent death are dead or not. Especially because the one trying tu cure him was a chemist. So she's supposed to knoww one thing or two about this. And even for the other ones, checking an heartbeat is easy (yes I know that a plant is supposed to make you "almost dead" but it isn't reliable and something like that in DR would surprise me. Alsso, Bandai's face wasn't glorious during it either.) |
ImaginBreaker said: willardhwright said: The stories WILL connect. In fact they are supposed to be connected. The author confirmed it himself. So I guess the worl'd bigest catastrophe blablablabla and Izuru will have some kind of role in DR3- mirai hen. This doesn't go against it being played straight, though, and a killing game doesn't mean "Junko win", very, very far from that. There will be dead people yes but it's true since DR1. It doesn't make a "the bad guy win" Also it's possible that it will not explain everything when it comes to side games etc. The author ALSO said that it's the grand finale, but other authors can go "deeper" about other characters (he didn't give any name but you get the idea. Basically it ends the main story but [x]'s story could be done as a novel later.) Why are you talking about how the bad guy wins? I didn't say anything about that lol. I was talking about how the second game cast of characters being brainwashed at the end of the despair arc, I don't think that's how the despair arc will end. I imagine a time skip that takes place after the end of the second game to show what happened to everyone. Sorry I worded it weird lol. I also expect most people to make it out alive in the future side. I think the killings are going to calm down a bit, this series is idealistic at least six will survive. Because of this I can't see the finale of the whole Danganronpa series ending with some killing game and seeing the two cast get taken over by Junko. You can avoid this while still playing the death game straight; DR1 played it very straight to the end but Junko still lost. Well, it will certainly happen during the despair arc. You can even see Izuru in the op; if not so, it would be another reality or whatever rofl. But I guess that since zetsubou will be the very last ep it will go even further than that. But yeah I think the same thing as you about that. It will probably happen and I think they'll show it on-screen but quickly, and not at the end, the end will probably be more positive. My guess is that Naegi will have to learn from Munakata, and Munakata from Naegi, as fellow "hopes". There is an obvious parallelism between them, even in the op. It's very likely that not everyone will die, but Naegi will have to learn to take actions instead of just talking. While idealistic I think it will also be darker. This is idealistic in a "we need to do our best!! BUT beautiful words don't change the world alone and despair isn't some kind of supervillain coming out of nowhere" way. So yeah. I can see it being idealistic but less "narutesque" |
Hard to do but possible even if I don't really think that it'd work. There is ONE attacker that wake up. As long as only one person wake up and the accomplice is asleep, it works. You also need the two person taht REALLY trust each another in order to be sure that you'll not be the one ending up dead instead of waking up. But the problem is that monokuma said that is A traitor among them, so more than one person would go against this part. This part doesn't fit. ImaginBreaker said: willardhwright said: Because of this You can avoid this while still playing the death game straight; DR1 played it very straight to the end but Junko still lost. Well, it will certainly happen during the despair arc. You can even see Izuru in the op; if not so, it would be another reality or whatever rofl. But I guess that since zetsubou will be the very last ep it will go even further than that. But yeah I think the same thing as you about that. It will probably happen and I think they'll show it on-screen but quickly, and not at the end, the end will probably be more positive. My guess is that Naegi will have to learn from Munakata, and Munakata from Naegi, as fellow "hopes". There is an obvious parallelism between them, even in the op. It's very likely that not everyone will die, but Naegi will have to learn to take actions instead of just talking. While idealistic I think it will also be darker. This is idealistic in a "we need to do our best!! BUT beautiful words don't change the world alone and despair isn't some kind of supervillain coming out of nowhere" way. So yeah. I can see it being idealistic but less "narutesque" I know it's going to happen at the end of the despair arc but yea I think the final episode of the despair arc will be a epilogue to the series, that's what I was getting at so I agree with you there. It won't just end with an intro to 2, since it airs after the future arc. I think it will play the death game straight I was talking about the anime itself. I think there will be more than just a killing game. Like a big epilogue and all that good stuff. I can't see this killing game lasting ten more episodes. Especially with all the loose ends. Well I can see Mirai being something like 11 episodes of killing game. They even introduced a whole new system with the rules so I doubt they'll cut it short. If they don't continue killing 2 characters for each episode. But if the two are really connected like the author said ( = what happens in Zetsubou will have a more direct impact than "explaining ho we got there" and some revelations in Zetsubou giving hints about the killer in Mirai) the zetsubou arc will probably get serious really quickly. I think the "real meat" will rather be in the zetsubou-hen rather than after the killing game,that will proceed and show the consequences or something like that. |
willardhwrightJul 19, 2016 10:56 PM
| I'd like to point out something after rewatching the ep This episode is titled "Hang the witch".. you know who is shown hanged in the op?  I'm not assuming anything yet but I fear for Kirigiri |
| Why Asahina be main chara if she dead now? Is she will back alive? My mouth still open because unbelieveable death. And where is Yasuhiro Hagakure. Is he can't get inside building? |
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Keihatsu said: Why Asahina be main chara if she dead now? Is she will back alive? My mouth still open because unbelieveable death. And where is Yasuhiro Hagakure. Is he can't get inside building? She isn't really a main character. She's just a part of this since she survived the first killing game and got out. |
Andrewapps said: Shimai_ni said: As @AzureAceOfficial said, my point was that he would die if he saw someone kill somebody else, not dying itself. If Gozu's forbidden action is to witness killing, not death, than he wouldn't have died after seeing Bandai being eliminated because of witnessing violence. Isn't that up to interpretation? Since Bandai's forbidden action is to witness violence between others, did the Ultimate Boxer not cause his death? Especially since Bandai was trying to warn him not to? If so, that would trigger Gozu's bracelet, no? Hmm... I'm not ruling out the possibility, it just seems somewhat of a leap. Say both Gozu and Bandai were in the same room, and Munakata killed Naegi. That would cause both of their deaths, which is kinda insane. But I suppose we'll find out soon enough. Well, it can be interpretated in any way you want; you can think of it as even Monokuma kills them since because of him they're wearing bracelets in the first place. You can think that it's even The Super High School Level Despair's fault because they caused the tragedy and Mirai Kikan's procreation which all led to this moment. Or maybe it was all because they were born. It can be interpretated in even that way if you want, but it all leads down to that bracelet which should be seen as a subject rather than an object in this case. Well anyway, this is just an idea, nothing else. Kodaka probably came up with something less obvious and more shocking as always. |
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| Munakata and Gekkougahara cannot be traitor. Here is why: Firstly, in both DR games, the rules presented, the environment and seemingly unimportant little discoveries plays an important role in finding the killer. We can all guess by now that bracelet rules will be important to discover the traitor. According to some theories now, Munakata cannot open doors because of his forbidden bracelet rule. I also think that is true and he can't be the one to kill Asahina because he can't enter the room in first place. Also by theories, Gekkougahara's forbidden rule is not to be touched by anyone. I think that is true because the evidence showed itself just before Asahina died, and Asahina was the one to discover the evidence. Some people say it is because Gekkougahara doesn't like to be touched. It cannot be something unimportant. You wouldn't show a character interaction scene when the other character is about to die. It would just be meaningless because it doesn't build emotion or anything to effect the surviving character. It is a hint towards Gekkougahara's rule. |
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zxy5 said: SirKurt said: Munakata and Gekkougahara cannot be traitor. Here is why: According to some theories now, Munakata cannot open doors because of his forbidden bracelet rule. I also think that is true and he can't be the one to kill Asahina because he can't enter the room in first place. The traitor could have a FAKE bracelet and pretend to have restrictions like others. Why will the traitor have a real bracelet on? Because Monokuma usually play by his own rules until he is killed. There has been some instances where he "stretched" them but he usually play fair for the same reasons he doesn't kill everyone immediatly; it's a huge TV shhow to show that the "hope people are ugly inside too and make people go DESPAIR. If you play it too unfair it loses all of it effect because it will not prove anything. That has been Monokuma's MO since the beginning, he only cheated when the plaers "cheated" too (like when kirigiri discovered to room thanks to Sakura's sacrifice when they were not suposed to). kawaii-despair said: I'd like to point out something after rewatching the ep This episode is titled "Hang the witch".. you know who is shown hanged in the op? I'm not assuming anything yet but I fear for Kirigiri I don't think she'll die. However there will DEFINITELY be something because of how she behave (even more so in this season where she's strange as hell). Like her being the number one suspect instead of naegi or whatever (remember, she IS Naegi's boss) |
willardhwrightJul 20, 2016 5:02 AM
HyperL said: willardhwright said: The timeline doesn't fit though so it's not "at the exact moment". Which is the problem. Yeah, this takes place after DR2 and Togami was there, so he could be at Towa at this very moment, but he was not there the entire time since the finale of DR:AE... yeah but my reason makes more sense Touko's not a full member of the future foundation and Togami isnt a branch head 1st-12th Branch heads 13th branch heads proxy Asahina 14th Branch head Kirigiri Naegi is there cause it was his punishment Hagakure didnt attend the meeting because he isnt a head |
SirKurt said: Munakata and Gekkougahara cannot be traitor. Here is why: Firstly, in both DR games, the rules presented, the environment and seemingly unimportant little discoveries plays an important role in finding the killer. We can all guess by now that bracelet rules will be important to discover the traitor. According to some theories now, Munakata cannot open doors because of his forbidden bracelet rule. I also think that is true and he can't be the one to kill Asahina because he can't enter the room in first place. Also by theories, Gekkougahara's forbidden rule is not to be touched by anyone. I think that is true because the evidence showed itself just before Asahina died, and Asahina was the one to discover the evidence. Some people say it is because Gekkougahara doesn't like to be touched. It cannot be something unimportant. You wouldn't show a character interaction scene when the other character is about to die. It would just be meaningless because it doesn't build emotion or anything to effect the surviving character. It is a hint towards Gekkougahara's rule. i think Gekkougahara's forbidden rule could be cannot speak |
theUniverse said: MightyM16 said: The Future Foundation isn't meant to be something entirely nice and just to begin with so I'm not sure why do you think it is a problem for the series High schoolers? You do know that Naegi, Asahina and Kyoko are already adults don't you? Of course I know that, but they (at least mentally, forgot the age they were when the Tragedy happened) were in the first game. That means that they were more logical than these guys who were already successful adults and have taken charge in the 'new world' when they were first years. It's mentioned in the first game that the FF helped the survivors recover their lost memories Also the Future arc killing game is a different kind of game, unlike the one we saw in DR1 and DR2, different actions are to be expected, especially considering most people behind the FF aren't exactly friends to begin with |
| The death flag was so obvious, and it give me some time to prepare my heart :( I have a theory.. what if the "traitor" for each round is different? Like, if they doesn't kill anybody, then everyone will be killed instead.. if it's true, then Asahina could've been committed suicide because she didn't want to kill anyone else. But my guess about the mastermind is still Chisa. Judging by the ep 1 of Zetsubou-hen, her specs as a maid is far too high, she could've easily jumped to the chandelier and faked her death.. and it'll probably be revealed at the end of the series.. But I hope Kodaka-sensei prepare more twists ahead.. hehe. |
nobody199 said: "The Future Foundation isn't meant to be something entirely nice and just to begin with so I'm not sure why do you think it is a problem for the series" You got that wrong. I never said in any moment that the problem was that the future foundation was nice. They shouldn't be nice, this is a serious situation with a lot of things in stake. You don't have to be entirely nice, but also not entirely wrong. Something not entirely nice doesn't have to be a suggestion of killing your co-worker, beating them senselessly because you want. This is not being nice, but totally in a irrational way. But that's okay, let's go with what you said, what happens when Munakata suspects Gozu for having defended Naegi from certain death and kills him, then he suspects the old man because he knows the entire bulding and is the traitor, and kills him along with everyone who tries to defend him? That's what I was trying to say using Nietzche's phrase: Are you willing to contradict your own principles, do everything you fought against to kill the enemy? Dark Knight is perfect example of what I'm saying. Munakata is Harvey Dent, lol! and he just lost his Rachel(Chisa). "High schoolers? You do know that Naegi, Asahina and Kyoko are already adults don't you?" I think definitely knows that, he's saying that in first show they were much more rational and actually worked together to solve who did this instead of killing whitout thinking twice. They had to work together in the first show because of the nature of that game, this is a different type of game, it's a werewolf/mafia game, which has more animosity between players |
coolyoyo33 said: Actually mate, it's the complete opposite if you check the rules again, It says that if the traitor DOESN'T kill anyone, the killing game will E N D. Also, it's probably one traitor that everyone has to find out before they all vanish into bloody deaths. Oh yeah, I completely missed that out. lol, there goes my theory xD |
SH4kun said: RIP Asahina. It was nice knowing your brown melons.  I cannot believe Asahina was next. |
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| Naegi's ultimate is luck. But it's only works during troublesome moments. Basically his existence won't affect people's lifes around him. Uh oh he still relying his own luck. And on the last part, naegi looked shiver owo nice detail. Whoever crap the traitor is/are, it is safe to hate andou i guess lol |
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Kuroneko said: HyperL said: Yeah, this takes place after DR2 and Togami was there, so he could be at Towa at this very moment, but he was not there the entire time since the finale of DR:AE... yeah but my reason makes more sense Touko's not a full member of the future foundation and Togami isnt a branch head 1st-12th Branch heads 13th branch heads proxy Asahina 14th Branch head Kirigiri Naegi is there cause it was his punishment Hagakure didnt attend the meeting because he isnt a head I would really be surprised if Aoi was a "head by proxy" but not Togami. They apparently care about management skills (Kiri i Naegi's boss, not the other way around, despite the fact that Naegii is "THE hero";) so Togami, even if hhe was a jerk during the beginning of the first game; would probably be one of the most "logical" character FF could have as an boss They had to work together in the first show because of the nature of that game, this is a different type of game, it's a werewolf/mafia game, which has more animosity between players It's more like there was a lot of suspicions for the start since they knew each other at least a bit and almost everyone suspected someone (usually Naegi) to begin with. The first game started "neutral". this one start into another conflict to begin with. Still, it's still absolutely irrational to behave the way they do. For some people who are shown to be emotionals it's ok, but for some like unakata who try to behave like a "cool-headed leader" (even if he fails at it hard) it's pitiful. Anime/Game logic. Monokuma isn't always fair, couldn't the traitor decide his own forbidden bracelet rule? And how will anyone know he did not? Then watching it it useless because it can be absolutely anything, not just what you are saying. On a meta-level DR games tend to be fair in order to be solvable. Most of DR1 had hints toward the end at the very beginning and the catastrophe aside was solvable by chapter 4/5. It usually isn't an unfair mystery even if some things usually forbidden come out of nowhere (Junko's twin, etc). If you go this way you can also go "it's a VR game since DR1 and in fact nobody is dead they are all alive" "it was all a dream" because it's just as impossible to prove wrong. By the way, where's Hagakure? I haven't seen or noticed him in a while. Nodoby knows. Maybe justoutside of the building maybe in danger if a lot of time assed when they fainted, etc, the fact that the building changed brings confusion over this. If they didn't he probably would be outside or, at best, trying to go into the building, but since there is a "location bug" regarding when it happens/where they are, here Hagakure is is one of the show's big mysteries without lmany hints for now. |
willardhwrightJul 20, 2016 8:35 AM
willardhwright said: Kuroneko said: yeah but my reason makes more sense Touko's not a full member of the future foundation and Togami isnt a branch head 1st-12th Branch heads 13th branch heads proxy Asahina 14th Branch head Kirigiri Naegi is there cause it was his punishment Hagakure didnt attend the meeting because he isnt a head I would really be surprised if Aoi was a "head by proxy" but not Togami. They apparently care about management skills (Kiri i Naegi's boss, not the other way around, despite the fact that Naegii is "THE hero";) so Togami, even if hhe was a jerk during the beginning of the first game; would probably be one of the most "logical" character FF could have as an boss well its allready confirmed that Naegi, Kirigiri, Togami and Hagakure are in branch 14 and Asahina was in branch 13 |
Gigi_Makoi said: Kirigiri's forbidden action is confusing if she wasn't allowed to inspect the bodies then why reveal Bandai's death was caused by his Forbidden action she even lift his arm and shown everyone his forbidden action just the action alone is still inspecting the body and showing everyone just how serious the forbidden action consequences have Investigating would be more accurate. and in any case if it's this it's just investigating TOWARD THE CULPRIT because she investigates the walls quite well. But she doesn't investigate anything related to the "murder of the day". Since Banndai wasn't killed by the traitor it wouldn't fall into this. (Although I wouldn't call what you describe "investigating" but whatever). That fact that she stands away from Naegi is also really suspicious though. Her not going with Aoi and Makoto is quite "...uh?" |
theUniverse said: MightyM16 said: It's mentioned in the first game that the FF helped the survivors recover their lost memories Also the Future arc killing game is a different kind of game, unlike the one we saw in DR1 and DR2, different actions are to be expected, especially considering most people behind the FF aren't exactly friends to begin with That has nothing to do with it, during the game they didn't have those memories and they acted more logically. Only a couple of them tbh, murder still happened and the rules were different, there were far less brutal than the rules of the current killing game I know that different actions and reactions are to be expected, but unlike real people they barely even tried to use logic and reason. 'Let's continue killing people and eventually we'll get the culprit.' Sounds like what the antagonist in an arc in Alice in Borderland did, rather than what a higher up in an organisation on the side of hope would do. What they should've done was what teenagers have been doing for the past few games, look for clues and try to figure it out together. That was what they were going to do until Whatshisface rushed it. Neither Munakata or Sakakura (the boxer guy) like Makoto to begin with, for them he is obviously the traitor considering he helped the Remnants of despair and the culprit behind Chisa's death, Sakakura hated Makoto even before he helped the Remnants as evidenced by a recent DR spin off so them wanting to get rid of him is only natural Perhaps the action wasn't the most logical but it's the type of action that suits those extremist characters the most, for them, despair is something that must be killed and eliminated no matter the sacrifice and Makoto is someone who helped despair in their minds so he has a high probability of being the killed and must be dealt it Also you make it seem like the entire FF is after Naegi when only Sakakura and Munakata are actively pursuing him while he received help from other FF members |
theUniverse said: MightyM16 said: Only a couple of them tbh, murder still happened and the rules were different, there were far less brutal than the rules of the current killing game Neither Munakata or Sakakura (the boxer guy) like Makoto to begin with, for them he is obviously the traitor considering he helped the Remnants of despair and the culprit behind Chisa's death, Sakakura hated Makoto even before he helped the Remnants as evidenced by a recent DR spin off so them wanting to get rid of him is only natural Perhaps the action wasn't the most logical but it's the type of action that suits those extremist characters the most, for them, despair is something that must be killed and eliminated no matter the sacrifice and Makoto is someone who helped despair in their minds so he has a high probability of being the killed and must be dealt it Also you make it seem like the entire FF is after Naegi when only Sakakura and Munakata are actively pursuing him while he received help from other FF members Doesn't mean they (And I of course don't mean FF, there are some cool people there, but the most dangerous ones are assholes) aren't being incredibly dumb and that I won't yell at the screen. I wouldn't say that they're being dumb just brash and with extremism, they're acting based on how they think it's best and how they are used to act in this apocalyptic world In their minds, Makoto is almost surely the traitor |
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