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Jun 27, 2016 10:09 PM
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While I know that game don't have romance in it..


Do you think the anime probably contain it??
Jun 28, 2016 3:36 AM
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Personally, I believe so. Although the only reason for me saying this is the promotional picture in which Sorey, Alisha and Rose are in the spotlight, I have a feeling they'll go for a romantic triangle with those three. If they follow that generic route, however, I hope it won't be a focus of the anime, since they should focus on adventure.

I also believe this anime will try to fix the main problems the game had, like "that" Alisha thing that revolted many people (me included), so hopefully it'll make good use of the great characters the game has. I know this game gets a lot of hate, but I truly think it's worth it for the characters. It's just a shame that the game seems to disrespect some characters sometimes. Hopefully that won't happen in the anime.
Jun 28, 2016 6:12 AM
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I expect Edna and Sorey too fall deeply in love of course!!
Minori Kushieda Forever <3

Jun 28, 2016 7:46 PM
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Baba pretty much implied sorey and mikleo were gay for eachother but its also baba being a terrible producer so who the fuck knows.

my hope is the anime throws away the script for the original script that was apparently cut for a rewrite 8 months before the games release that is very likley for the games messy plot

also it better not spoil anything for berseria

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jun 29, 2016 10:43 AM
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Well even if it's an original script Sorey, the MC is not that romance guy.
And if the storie follow the game, it's better to not have any romance in it.
Jul 3, 2016 3:36 PM
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Limechan said:
Personally, I believe so. Although the only reason for me saying this is the promotional picture in which Sorey, Alisha and Rose are in the spotlight, I have a feeling they'll go for a romantic triangle with those three. If they follow that generic route, however, I hope it won't be a focus of the anime, since they should focus on adventure.

I also believe this anime will try to fix the main problems the game had, like "that" Alisha thing that revolted many people (me included), so hopefully it'll make good use of the great characters the game has. I know this game gets a lot of hate, but I truly think it's worth it for the characters. It's just a shame that the game seems to disrespect some characters sometimes. Hopefully that won't happen in the anime.


Winterluffy said:
I expect Edna and Sorey too fall deeply in love of course!!


The producers already stated that "a relationship between Sorey and a woman wouldn't work" along with innuendos aiming at Sorey and Mikleo being more than friends, which makes sense after watching the ending of the game.
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Winterluffy said:
Mel96 said:




The producers already stated that "a relationship between Sorey and a woman wouldn't work" along with innuendos aiming at Sorey and Mikleo being more than friends, which makes sense after watching the ending of the game.


What I wouldn't do to see Sorey x Edna happen ;-;


^^; my condolences?
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Winterluffy said:
Mel96 said:




The producers already stated that "a relationship between Sorey and a woman wouldn't work" along with innuendos aiming at Sorey and Mikleo being more than friends, which makes sense after watching the ending of the game.


What I wouldn't do to see Sorey x Edna happen ;-;
why? you might of chose the 2 characters that interacted the least in the game

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jul 3, 2016 10:27 PM
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I'd personally say that there isn't much in the way of actual romance, as much as there are various connections that people decide to make on their own. My main reasoning being, Sorey feels a bit too... Innocent? To desire any romance.

Though, again. That won't stop anyone. Especially not on the Sorey and Mikleo Ship. It's sailed too far to have any chance of docking again. Though personally, it's not in a romantic way in the slightest, but I do say that they are closest to acting like brothers than actual brothers I've seen in some cases.



JizzyHitler said:
Winterluffy said:


What I wouldn't do to see Sorey x Edna happen ;-;
why? you might of chose the 2 characters that interacted the least in the game


Well. To be fair, I'd probably hand the least interacted with connection to be along the lines of Dezel and Edna, or Dezel and Lailah. Possibly Rose and Mikleo?

And though that is an honest view... I can't deny that I may have felt an urge to bring it up due to my own fondness for the pairing.


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Ah, and apologies if I messed up the reply here. I'm not used to doing quotes, and I can't remember if I deleted anything from it... Actually, after all the fixing I just had to do, I know I made a proper mess of it.
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shadowbrazier said:
Though personally, it's not in a romantic way in the slightest, but I do say that they are closest to acting like brothers than actual brothers I've seen in some cases

I've heard that, in Japan, same sex couples literally adopt each other as a way of getting married, since it's still not legal there.
So yeah, brothers, one and only, so sad no one else can see how beautiful you are bro, bro you are such a babe. Makes sense.
Jul 4, 2016 3:32 PM
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NipunSinha99 said:
While I know that game don't have romance in it..


Do you think the anime probably contain it??

No. The lead character is a chaste hero. No chance of romance in this.
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Personally, I believe so. Although the only reason for me saying this is the promotional picture in which Sorey, Alisha and Rose are in the spotlight, I have a feeling they'll go for a romantic triangle with those three. If they follow that generic route, however, I hope it won't be a focus of the anime, since they should focus on adventure.

I also believe this anime will try to fix the main problems the game had, like "that" Alisha thing that revolted many people (me included), so hopefully it'll make good use of the great characters the game has. I know this game gets a lot of hate, but I truly think it's worth it for the characters. It's just a shame that the game seems to disrespect some characters sometimes. Hopefully that won't happen in the anime.


That is quite unlikely

Tales of Zestiria features a male lead, Sorey, and his male best friend, Mikleo, who are strongly implied to be in love with each other. In the game's skit-style dialogue, the player can see that Sorey finds Mikleo attractive (the word in question being a "babe"). A later skit also finds Sorey and Mikleo confirming that "things like [love] come up" for them; however, there are no female characters that could potentially be love interests for either of them—the game very clearly shows that. In an interview with the scriptwriter, it is said that an "m/f romance wouldn't work for Sorey." Multiple in-game titles show that Sorey and Mikleo are of the utmost importance to each other; Mikleo has the character title "Soulmate" in Japanese (translated to "Peas in a Pod") and Hideo Baba, the brand manager and producer of the series, calls Mikleo Sorey's "one and only," another title in-game. Explicit confirmation is lacking, as Bandai Namco feels they cannot outright state it, but these implications are virtual confirmation.

Plus, neither Rose nor Alisha are or were the "heroines" ^^

How many times will the producers have to keep repeating the same? Smh
All the drama the fandom created against the game and people are still looking for straight romance or even a heroine for Sorey
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stone616 said:
NipunSinha99 said:
While I know that game don't have romance in it..


Do you think the anime probably contain it??

No. The lead character is a chaste hero. No chance of romance in this.


Right bro!!.. But since fantasy alone can't fascinate people so may they incorporate romance??
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NipunSinha99 said:
stone616 said:

No. The lead character is a chaste hero. No chance of romance in this.


Right bro!!.. But since fantasy alone can't fascinate people so may they incorporate romance??

I'm telling you the lead character has zero interest in romance. It would be completely out of character. There's only one guy in the main cast even remotely interested in women and none of them are interested in him. He doesn't even join up until almost the end.

There isn't going to be any romance in this anime. The Tails series isn't a romance heavy series in the first place. Even when it has romance in it its usually at best indirectly addressed.
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stone616 said:
NipunSinha99 said:


Right bro!!.. But since fantasy alone can't fascinate people so may they incorporate romance??

I'm telling you the lead character has zero interest in romance. It would be completely out of character. There's only one guy in the main cast even remotely interested in women and none of them are interested in him. He doesn't even join up until almost the end.

There isn't going to be any romance in this anime. The Tails series isn't a romance heavy series in the first place. Even when it has romance in it its usually at best indirectly addressed.







Quite correct bro!! But I hope the change the script to some at least romantic moments..
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stone616 said:
NipunSinha99 said:


Right bro!!.. But since fantasy alone can't fascinate people so may they incorporate romance??

I'm telling you the lead character has zero interest in romance. It would be completely out of character. There's only one guy in the main cast even remotely interested in women and none of them are interested in him. He doesn't even join up until almost the end.

There isn't going to be any romance in this anime. The Tails series isn't a romance heavy series in the first place. Even when it has romance in it its usually at best indirectly addressed.


Symphonia Dawn of the New World had a lot of romance. That's about it so you are correct.
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Mel96 said:
The producers already stated that "a relationship between Sorey and a woman wouldn't work" along with innuendos aiming at Sorey and Mikleo being more than friends, which makes sense after watching the ending of the game.

I think you're referring to this:
http://kiraleshoot.tumblr.com/post/132078427863/interview-just-a-part-of-it-translation

Q : There’s not much romance this time, is there?

A : While romance is a very fun element in terms of character drama, this time we chose to water it down, or shall we say, put it on the low priority list. We want Sorey to be a character who grew up pure, chasing his dreams about history and ruins. If we put a prurient man-woman relationship in there, it might just upset the direction we want to go with him. Still, ‘Boy Meets Girl’ is still a powerful introduction to a story in the end, so he meets Alisha, and in meeting her learns about the world. However, Alisha is a normal human, and she has to face the reality that she cannot measure up to Sorey. The girl he meets after that, Rose, is less of a 'heroine’ than Sorey’s 'foil’. Mikleo, Lailah and the others would tend to think about their problems the same way as Sorey does, so Rose is the character who views things differently, assisting Sorey who has just learned about his limits from his parting with Alisha. We made her into a character that, at the end of the story, you can see her accepting what Sorey leaves her with, and know that she will certainly continue it and keep it alive.


While the scriptwriter only directly shot down man-women relationship, it sounds like Sorey isn't supposed to be interested in any form of romantic relationship.
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Mel96 said:
The producers already stated that "a relationship between Sorey and a woman wouldn't work" along with innuendos aiming at Sorey and Mikleo being more than friends, which makes sense after watching the ending of the game.

I think you're referring to this:
http://kiraleshoot.tumblr.com/post/132078427863/interview-just-a-part-of-it-translation

Q : There’s not much romance this time, is there?

A : While romance is a very fun element in terms of character drama, this time we chose to water it down, or shall we say, put it on the low priority list. We want Sorey to be a character who grew up pure, chasing his dreams about history and ruins. If we put a prurient man-woman relationship in there, it might just upset the direction we want to go with him. Still, ‘Boy Meets Girl’ is still a powerful introduction to a story in the end, so he meets Alisha, and in meeting her learns about the world. However, Alisha is a normal human, and she has to face the reality that she cannot measure up to Sorey. The girl he meets after that, Rose, is less of a 'heroine’ than Sorey’s 'foil’. Mikleo, Lailah and the others would tend to think about their problems the same way as Sorey does, so Rose is the character who views things differently, assisting Sorey who has just learned about his limits from his parting with Alisha. We made her into a character that, at the end of the story, you can see her accepting what Sorey leaves her with, and know that she will certainly continue it and keep it alive.


While the scriptwriter only directly shot down man-women relationship, it sounds like Sorey isn't supposed to be interested in any form of romantic relationship.


Yeah, I originally thought so too, but the author of No. 6 said something pretty similar about Nezumi and Shion, yet they literally shared kisses, and it was obviously a romantic attraction happened between them.

The one who translated that speaks Japanese, which means they know how the rest of the interview went, and that person said this afterwards:

It’s basically shooting both Alisha and Rose down as heroines and, instead of saying that 'there’s no romance in the game’ they’re basically saying 'there’s romance but it’s not an in-your-face plot point’ ('it’s there but it’s watered down/low priority’) and yet Alisha isn’t the heroine, and Rose isn’t the heroine, and a man-woman relationship is too prurient for Sorey…. It’s not difficult to see who he’s saying, without saying, is the object of Sorey’s romantic (though not JUST romantic) affection.[...]

[...]They get the same treatment, IF NOT MORE ACTUALLY, than other Tales canon pairings, because that’s how it works in the Tales series.
One more thing, think about how in Japan, homosexuality is still viewed as a taboo by MANY PEOPLE. Yet Bamco decided to take that route, and while they couldn’t scream directly “yeah they’re together/gay”, they managed to find their own way of confirming it.


Also, that is not the only translator I've read from, and most of them understood the line that way.

Not to mention the titles Mikleo has, like "One and Only" and the fact that it's been shown that Sorey thinks of Mikleo as someone attractive (rather beautiful)


And, there's this skit which implies "love" may come up, so if the producer was really shooting down any form of romantic love, Sorey wouldn't have said that.

In the end, you can see them as just friends, but since this is a romance thread...
It's already been stated no romance happened between Sorey and any female, so yeah.

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Not to mention the titles Mikleo has, like "One and Only" and the fact that it's been shown that Sorey thinks of Mikleo as someone attractive (rather beautiful)


And, there's this skit which implies "love" may come up, so if the producer was really shooting down any form of romantic love, Sorey wouldn't have said that.

In the end, you can see them as just friends, but since this is a romance thread...
It's already been stated no romance happened between Sorey and any female, so yeah.



I agree. Also, since you mentioned Mikleo's titles...



This is one of Mikleo's titles and this one is describing his relationship with Sorey. I don't know if this title is the English localization of the "One and Only" title but either way I think the way their relationship is described in there is very beautiful :) I mean whether you view their relationship as really close friends or something more is up to you, but I think it is undeniable that they are soulmates.

Also I think it's worthy to remark that all these skits and these titles may go unnoticed by a lot of players of the game so it's understandable if a lot of people only think of them as "bros" after playing the game x)
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Wasn't there a skit in the actual game that basically stated outright Mikleo and Sorey were gay though? I remember that, it was in a spa/hotel I think.
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Why does everything need romance? ths isnt that sort of story >.>
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Well if this ia gonna have some romance, they better go with AlishaxSorey, else I'm gonna riot.
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Wasn't there a skit in the actual game that basically stated outright Mikleo and Sorey were gay though? I remember that, it was in a spa/hotel I think.


This?



arwen7stars said:

I agree. Also, since you mentioned Mikleo's titles...



This is one of Mikleo's titles and this one is describing his relationship with Sorey. I don't know if this title is the English localization of the "One and Only" title but either way I think the way their relationship is described in there is very beautiful :) I mean whether you view their relationship as really close friends or something more is up to you, but I think it is undeniable that they are soulmates.

Also I think it's worthy to remark that all these skits and these titles may go unnoticed by a lot of players of the game so it's understandable if a lot of people only think of them as "bros" after playing the game x)


Yeah!
It's 唯一無二の (yuuitsumunino) which means "one and only".

I understand many people could have missed it ^-^ because it's really subtle (and so are the rest of Tales of couples).
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Mel96 said:
The one who translated that speaks Japanese, which means they know how the rest of the interview went, and that person said this afterwards:

If I'm not mistaken the rest of the interview had nothing to do with romance, so that's his conclusion just from that paragraph (which is kind of obvious due to the context). Kiraleshoot was already biased in favor of SoreyxMikelo on gamefaqs so his confirmation bias with that interview really didn't come off as a surprise to me.

As for the rest of your evidences, I am familiarized with them but I really don't think they're conclusive enough, if you view Sorey as pure and innocent you will likely interpret them differently.
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If I'm not mistaken the rest of the interview had nothing to do with romance, so that's his conclusion just from that paragraph (which is kind of obvious due to the context). Kiraleshoot was already biased in favor of SoreyxMikelo on gamefaqs so his confirmation bias with that interview really didn't come off as a surprise to me.

As for the rest of your evidences, I am familiarized with them but I really don't think they're conclusive enough, if you view Sorey as pure and innocent you will likely interpret them differently.

Well, to be fair, you could be biased as well.
I am biased.
Who isn't?
But people don't simply say sormik is partially canon for nothing.
It's more common for people to deny gay couples than the other way around.
And also, Sorey didn't sound like he didn't know what he was saying in that skit.
About this skit.

The one thing about Japanese language is that it has different words for many things. One of them is “love”, you might know that there are two words that mean love in Japanese: 愛 and 恋. Both of them indeed mean “love”, however, they have a slightly different nuance in Japanese.

Basically, in the context I use in my argument right now, 愛 is love in general; it can mean brotherly love, motherly love, love between couple, etc. It is a broader concept. Meanwhile, 恋, the one used in the skit, is more specific, it can only mean love between lovers, passionate love, romantic love.

And there's Mikleo's titles, which most people ignore, because of the localization.

Like Water and Fish (水魚の交わり): It’s only natural for him to be by his side. There’s no questioning their existence to each other. It is that kind of relationship.

One Heart in Different Bodies/Perfect Harmony (異体同心): Despite being different races, they’ve embraced and grown up with the same feelings. A title which shows the possibilities of humans and Seraphims.

One and Only (唯一無二の): Mutual partners who don’t want to lose to anyone else. That is why they have been able to grow, until now and from now on.
Baba has been on record saying that “Mikleo is 唯一無二の存在 to Sorey” as well



It's obvious the producers won't bluntly state it, but hey, everyone can interpret it different ways.
It's not like I should expect otherwise.
It happened to korrasami too, and even though the authors did 100% confirm it.
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Well, to be fair, you could be biased as well.
I am biased.
Who isn't?
But people don't simply say sormik is partially canon for nothing.
It's more common for people to deny gay couples than the other way around.

You apparently didn't realize the confirmation bias on Kirales conclusion, so I pointed it out.

As for the rest of your post, this was discussed ad nauseam in gamefaqs back in early 2015 and then again once it was released in English, along with that I'm also very indifferent towards Sorey sexual orientation, so I'm unwilling to get into long discussions over this again. Even at the first time this was being discussed in gamefaqs I was already going a bit



due to RitaxEstelle and AsbelxRichard.
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Sorey and Mikleo are gay af ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Windfall said:

As for the rest of your post, this was discussed ad nauseam in gamefaqs back in early 2015 and then again once it was released in English, along with that I'm also very indifferent towards Sorey sexual orientation, so I'm unwilling to get into long discussions over this again. Even at the first time this was being discussed in gamefaqs I was already going a bit


I already read those, and some of the excuses were ridiculous *laughs*

It's okay, though, if you don't want to pry on it.
Everyone can interpret it however they want, in the end.

My point still stands: romance in Tales of? Nope, only subtle.
In this case, already shot down for the most part.
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NipunSinha99 said:
While I know that game don't have romance in it..




But there is.
Sorry x Milkeo gay romance.
Its so gr8 that it can only by matched by boku no pico romance routes.

Lol
harem and ecchi are a cancer to whole planet
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Haven't seen the first episode yet but honestly if they keep Sorey the same as he was in the game personality wise, there's little chance of romance in this adaptation. He's legit just a pure guy, he grew up not knowing anything about romance. He's mostly just interested in ruins n shit, pretty much the generic protagonist type. There was pretty much no romance in the game, introducing romance into this story and to Sorey would be a little hard and would take time, especially since the plot itself needs to move.

There's no characters with romantic compatibility in the case but considering Velvet appears in the op for this maybe they're changing the story drastically.
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Sidholun said:
NipunSinha99 said:
While I know that game don't have romance in it..




But there is.
Sorry x Milkeo gay romance.
Its so gr8 that it can only by matched by boku no pico romance routes.

Lol



Common man gay romance.. Noo..

I hope they change the story to atleast fill our appetite..
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Atmosphere did not look like it is suited for more than a bit "hinted" romance. Probably "adventure"-style anime with them travelling mainly and fighting or discovering stuff.
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lol I always thought that Sorey was too pure for any kind of relationship and the whole "Sorey isn't interested in M/F relationships" confirmed that to me after I finished my first playthrough, but Mikleo however is 100000% gay for Sorey and is very TsunTsun about it which is the only reason I ship SorMik. Sorey x Rose is my OTP for the game though even if they are just bros in canon that ain't going to stop me. I ship Rose is half the PCs anyways regardless of their canon relationship status.

What I can appreciate about SorMik is that they didn't just randomly throw Sorey into a canon relationship out of the blue with Alisha like Graces did with Asbel and Cheria when clearly Richard and Asbel had more chemistry and mutual feelings for each other.


What I do hate is the tumblr fujoshits causally throwing around the words "Homophobia" and "gay erasure" when it comes to Sorey's character I would understand 1000% if they were talking about Mikleo, but Sorey isn't interested in romance in general so what if some people ship him with Rose and Alisha does it really fucking matter? I mean as long as they are not shoving their opinions down anyones throat this shouldn't be a big issue. Then again this is tumblr where shipping wank and bullshit are the norm and anyone who has different ships or slightly different opinions get brutally attacked by these rabid fujoshits.


As for the anime itself they already threw in fanservice for the fans, but thats all thats probably going to happen and there will be no actual romance cause the game didn't have any yes there were implications and hints thrown in, but no actual romance was present in the game.
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What I do hate is the tumblr fujoshits causally throwing around the words "Homophobia" and "gay erasure" when it comes to Sorey's character I would understand 1000% if they were talking about Mikleo, but Sorey isn't interested in romance in general so what if some people ship him with Rose and Alisha does it really fucking matter? I mean as long as they are not shoving their opinions down anyones throat this shouldn't be a big issue. Then again this is tumblr where shipping wank and bullshit are the norm and anyone who has different ships or slightly different opinions get brutally attacked by these rabid fujoshits.

While I do agree that throwing the word homophobia everywhere is wrong, you're being pretty hypocrite here.
You're calling them fujoshis and, usually and my own experience with tumblr, these people are not fujoshi. They're usually lgtb people who really do care about representation and this topic is something that would annoy anyone.
Just like calling anyone homophobic, calling anyone fujoshi is wrong too.
Fujoshis ship gays just because "it's hot" and are generally straight.
Lgbt people ship gays when they give the possibility of representation.
Shipping gay ships =/= fujoshi. There is nothing wrong with not always shipping straight ships and one shouldn't be insulted because of it.
Not shipping gay ships =/= homophobic. There is nothing wrong with always shipping straight ships and one shouldn't be insulted because of it.
Don't do to others what you don't like it being done to you.
What tumblr has is not a lot of fujoshis but a lot of lgbt people and the topic of representation is pretty delicate, especially with how actual homophobic people deny representation from us.
Like, I get you wouldn't understand how that feels, and being insulted is not okay but umm then don't throw the word "fujoshi" everywhere, because that too is offensive and completely erase the actual reason tumblr people are angry, making it look it's just "because of a gay fetish".
Posts like this one portray more clearly what I'm talking about.
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I hope not, I am feeling that I am not going to like the MC guy...
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basically, do you want them to be gay? Then yes they are gay, if you dont want them to be gay and just want them to be bros? Then they are heterosexual soul mates. The games producer fujobaited the 2 but nothing ever went past that in the game and there are still moments where people ship tease sorey and alicia but thats promptly dropped after the third of the game. Its really just up to how you want to see their relationship but the anime could make it far more conclusive but id probably bet if they did it'd go more for shipping alicia with him especially if she actually sticks through the story this time like the ed is implying.


The big thing people arguing either for or against his potential homosexuality is that this is never a real plotpoint for his character nor does he even remotely pursue romance of any kind in the game, sorey has alot more important shit on his mind and when he does get time to relax hes thinking about exploring ruins. Just to counter what baba(producer) said about the 2 as a fujo statement the games actual director more or less implied sorey is too pure to think about romance of any kind cause he was raised in an envirement without a tie to it and when he finally starts exploring the world thats not one of the things that needs his attention


bittersweetlove said:
I hope not, I am feeling that I am not going to like the MC guy...
sorey is kind of a little too happy go lucky but his character arc in the final act is actually the better part of the game, im hoping they speed that part up to be an overbearing theme of the show, ill still spoiler it but in case youd rather go in blind his character arc is

it actually had a pretty decent pay off but then the game sort of just ends immediately afterwords.
JizzyHitlerJul 13, 2016 2:37 PM

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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What I do hate is the tumblr fujoshits causally throwing around the words "Homophobia" and "gay erasure" when it comes to Sorey's character I would understand 1000% if they were talking about Mikleo, but Sorey isn't interested in romance in general so what if some people ship him with Rose and Alisha does it really fucking matter? I mean as long as they are not shoving their opinions down anyones throat this shouldn't be a big issue. Then again this is tumblr where shipping wank and bullshit are the norm and anyone who has different ships or slightly different opinions get brutally attacked by these rabid fujoshits.

While I do agree that throwing the word homophobia everywhere is wrong, you're being pretty hypocrite here.
You're calling them fujoshis and, usually and my own experience with tumblr, these people are not fujoshi. They're usually lgtb people who really do care about representation and this topic is something that would annoy anyone.
Just like calling anyone homophobic, calling anyone fujoshi is wrong too.
Fujoshis ship gays just because "it's hot" and are generally straight.
Lgbt people ship gays when they give the possibility of representation.
Shipping gay ships =/= fujoshi. There is nothing wrong with not always shipping straight ships and one shouldn't be insulted because of it.
Not shipping gay ships =/= homophobic. There is nothing wrong with always shipping straight ships and one shouldn't be insulted because of it.
Don't do to others what you don't like it being done to you.
What tumblr has is not a lot of fujoshis but a lot of lgbt people and the topic of representation is pretty delicate, especially with how actual homophobic people deny representation from us.
Like, I get you wouldn't understand how that feels, and being insulted is not okay but umm then don't throw the word "fujoshi" everywhere, because that too is offensive and completely erase the actual reason tumblr people are angry, making it look it's just "because of a gay fetish".
Posts like this one portray more clearly what I'm talking about.


lol yeah maybe your right about that, but I've been knee deep in shipping wank before and a lot of the time it was these pre teens fetishizing gay relationships and still I bet there are quite a few fujoshi on tumblr and ToZ fandom. So yeah I did go a little bit overboard with the fujoshi remark so I apologize about that its just that this fandom is quite toxic when it comes to the whole SorMik issue and going around stating that Sorey is canonically gay and shipping him with a woman is a sin and a "hetrosexual urge" when he is in fact too innocent for ANY type of romantic relationship sorry fandom, but he isn't interested in Mikleo that way he might respect him and they share mutual feelings, but its not canon Mikleo is the only one with any romantic feelings and the side material proves that.

My two friends are gay and life partners and they hate yaoi pairings cause of how authors (Yaoi Mangaka) and the fandom treat gay relationships which is more fetish material than actual representation.
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If you want romance go play Tales of Xillia or better yet Tales of Symphonia
'Cuz you won't get any of that in Zestiria.
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I was on the fence about Sorey x Mikleo.

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Games (JRPG) these times really lack romance and proper ending. (Xillia, vesperia, abyss is barely safe).
Hoping there will be an hetero romance (so between Sorey and a girl). Fu BL...
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Games (JRPG) these times really lack romance and proper ending. (Xillia, vesperia, abyss is barely safe).
Hoping there will be an hetero romance (so between Sorey and a girl). Fu BL...



Just tell me what the hell is now going on in the anime... Where is sorry???
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NipunSinha99 said:
Seiya0890 said:
Games (JRPG) these times really lack romance and proper ending. (Xillia, vesperia, abyss is barely safe).
Hoping there will be an hetero romance (so between Sorey and a girl). Fu BL...



Just tell me what the hell is now going on in the anime... Where is sorry???


What the hell are you talking about ? nothing is going on... And sorry about what ?
You meant Sorey i guess ? He will be back for the next episode.
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If you want romance go play Tales of Xillia or better yet Tales of Symphonia
'Cuz you won't get any of that in Zestiria.
xillia is pretty light on the romance field compared to other entries and cause xillia is probably one of the most cynical of the tales things arent particularly happy with the conclusion of it. The last tales with an actual romance focus was probably graces and even then that had to wait till a after story to follow through, hearts had romance throughout but it was pretty shittily written, and as much as i definitely enjoy the romance in vesperia it is admittedly just a headcannon amongst the fanbase.

Reim_Seranth said:
I was on the fence about Sorey x Mikleo.

their interactions let alone ship teases are way more overhyped than you think it'll be, unless they add in stuff(and so far the anime has actually outright removed multiple fujo teases that were some of the only in the game) to the anime they more or less wont really interact much past giving eachother shit every now and then till the stories abrupt finale.

As much as shippers want to push it, zestiria might be the most devoid of romance entry in the series (bar xillia 2 but not the manga which did have romance) with the only actual romantic implications coming in the way of 2 of the other party members. I warn this to anyone wanting a hetero or homo romance even in just hints, lower your expectations there really isnt much here. For all the hype people give mikleo for stealing the heroine spotlight the game really just moves all its focus onto rose after shes introduced to the point of nearly ntring sorey of the main character status, shes the one who actually steals the heroine spot and is ultimately the most responsible for sending the games plot into a spiral down to mediocrity
JizzyHitlerAug 20, 2016 8:00 AM

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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If you want romance in Jrpg you need to go back like 10 years. Play Final fantasy X and games like Trails in the sky (fucking good game)
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If you want romance in Jrpg you need to go back like 10 years. Play Final fantasy X and games like Trails in the sky (fucking good game)
romance is a staple of the tales series and is in virtually every game, zestiria was the first one the writers outright said they were not gonna do any, xillia 2 kind of removed its romantic subplot too but it was supposed to be between ludger and alt milla which apparently in supplementary material they keep in.

honestly every modenr jrpg ive played save for atalier games still have romance so im not sure why you think youd need to go back 10 years at all.

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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Sweanime said:
If you want romance in Jrpg you need to go back like 10 years. Play Final fantasy X and games like Trails in the sky (fucking good game)

It's not that uncommon in JRPGs.

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