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| For those who want to see some images: http://www.mangamint.com/world-trigger-143 Also, thank you for opening the discussion and @Matchmaker_ for the pics. --------- Looks like that these two surpassed our expectations...Yuma healed his wounds and Osamu got a double kill! By the image, Yuma likely used the whip scorpion to seal his wounds (it seems that the scorpion "bandage" is making [like] circles, to close his abdomen, like a extended one..if I'm wrong, he can summon too many scorpions? I didn't get it at all). I like the way that Osamu got his double kill. He uses his tricks (wires and strategies) to fulfill his weakness (delayed asteroid) brilliantly. So, in his way, seems that he is not just a support anymore but now he can get his own kills (Even though it takes some time, patience, strategy and, obviously, your life). Achievement complete, nice Godsamu! I guess that this (not finished yet, we need to ensure that he evolved and that he is ready for big threats like the B-high ones) gives one point to Osamu regarding our discussions about how could he develop to get some kills, to be useful and not a burden (or something like that, I'm bad at expression). My fear is that by showing his new tricks, and, considering that he's still learning and improving he couldn't make against B-High, at all, for being "osoi, osoi" (Too slow). ------------ Just for fun:  Osamu's A-rank customization! Hahaha! (Saw that on 4chan) |
KenboyMay 12, 2016 3:35 AM
| "[...]I have to admit I'm not a big anime fan. Most anime that makes it over here seems to be either about schoolgirls with supernatural powers who battle evil, or adolescent boys who - for some convoluted reason - wind up having to pilot big giant robots...although, today, you just need to put some boobs or harem and fantasy and it'll be 10/10." |
-jdj88- said: Kenboy said: I think he zigzag the whip scorpion but keeping the edge much rounder and making the edges duller to avoid getting cut by his own weapon...so I think it's just one scorpion.By the image, Yuma likely used the whip scorpion to seal his wounds (it seems that the scorpion "bandage" is making [like] circles, to close his abdomen, like a extended one..if I'm wrong, he can summon too many scorpions? I didn't get it at all). If we are right, Jin is more than a genius. It's like they said: ">Scorpion really is op. It was basically designed to Jin's specifications. Would you expect anything less than something op out of the Elite Talented Agent?" Also, Yuma is a genius too for being too creative. |
| "[...]I have to admit I'm not a big anime fan. Most anime that makes it over here seems to be either about schoolgirls with supernatural powers who battle evil, or adolescent boys who - for some convoluted reason - wind up having to pilot big giant robots...although, today, you just need to put some boobs or harem and fantasy and it'll be 10/10." |
| Despite the skeptics, Tamakoma still has a window to sweep points and I like how they're all getting a highlight chapter. Next week feels like Chika's turn but it's also leaning towards more Katori time. I don't think Osamu and Yuma will help Chika, not because they can't beat Katori but Chika's story deserves some solo action too. Reiji has provided so much training for her, I wouldn't doubt she has some close quarters tips from him. Even if she fails, it'd be nice to see her in action. But IF she catches Teruya, Chika seems most likely to either pin her with lead bullet or (even less likely) take a real shot. Or if she pins her with lead bullet will she then take a kill shot? Because if the author answers that question now Tamakoma will look undoubtedly ready for the upper B-rank teams next round. I'm not counting on it because it still seems too soon. Chika's so close though, she tried to fire at people last round and can tag people in sniper training, she's very self aware that this is a battle simulator. Unless she becomes sharp enough to destroy gun triggers her only other option is to step by step cross the boundaries of fear to shooting outside of battle simulators. Oh, and of course...CONGRATS ON THOSE COOL MOVES OSAMU! WOOT! |
| "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." - Liebert |
Chung2 said: MisterBonBons said: Despite the skeptics, Tamakoma still has a window to sweep points and I like how they're all getting a highlight chapter. Next week feels like Chika's turn but it's also leaning towards more Katori time. I don't think Osamu and Yuma will help Chika, not because they can't beat Katori but Chika's story deserves some solo action too. Reiji has provided so much training for her, I wouldn't doubt she has some close quarters tips from him. Even if she fails, it'd be nice to see her in action. But IF she catches Teruya, Chika seems most likely to either pin her with lead bullet or (even less likely) take a real shot. Or if she pins her with lead bullet will she then take a kill shot? Because if the author answers that question now Tamakoma will look undoubtedly ready for the upper B-rank teams next round. I'm not counting on it because it still seems too soon. Chika's so close though, she tried to fire at people last round and can tag people in sniper training, she's very self aware that this is a battle simulator. Unless she becomes sharp enough to destroy gun triggers her only other option is to step by step cross the boundaries of fear to shooting outside of battle simulators. Oh, and of course...CONGRATS ON THOSE COOL MOVES OSAMU! WOOT! Since Teruya is moving from the top of a structure to another, Chika with an Ibis can just destroy the structure with Teruya on top of it, trapping her within. So I have no idea why she is still insistent on shooting with the black lightning. Yeah I'm stumped on that. I'm thinking about what you said and I thought either: - She's definitely not ready to shoot people, because maybe she thinks Ibis would bury Teruya. - This battle pace is going so fast, she hasn't had confirmation of Osamu and Yuma fighting therefore she doesn't want to use Ibis to destroy their wire zone. - She has her own plan and persists on practicing with Black Lightning. |
| "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." - Liebert |
Chung2 said: What is that custom Osamu trigger gonna do? LOL Is it some kind of projectile shooter or what? There's no whip scorpion. During the fight against Kageura, Yuma just shaped his regular scorpion to resemble a whip by extending it. Kageura does the same. B-rank agents aren't given custom triggers. Yuma has two scorpions equipped overall (one in main slot, one in sub slot, carrying more would be useless as you cannot activate more than 2 triggers at a time), if he is now attacking with one scorpion, then yeah he used one to bind his wound, although this will greatly make the scorpion brittle and susceptible to breakage even from a very minor attack. Also extending his scorpion like that expends extra trion. Anyway did Katori really say that about Osamu's aim for away team? It's hard to believe. So I'm hesitant to believe this post. There are so many inconsistences in your post, but, anyway... a) Lol man, you don't know about Spider-Man? '-' Yes, that is some kind of projectile shooter, specifically, a web shooter. Roughly saying, Spider-man uses this to shoot his webs with precision and to give more range. b) Yes, we know that there isn't a whip scorpion but is like @-jdj88- said, it's just a term to describe this "style" from past discussions. c)"Anyway did Katori really say that about Osamu's aim for away team? It's hard to believe. So I'm hesitant to believe this post." - Why are you saying that? Lol, it's no news that T-2 wants that. Also, Katori might be trying to lure Osamu by talking, like Kakizaki did to Yuma (it's what we think). |
| "[...]I have to admit I'm not a big anime fan. Most anime that makes it over here seems to be either about schoolgirls with supernatural powers who battle evil, or adolescent boys who - for some convoluted reason - wind up having to pilot big giant robots...although, today, you just need to put some boobs or harem and fantasy and it'll be 10/10." |
dat_le_tat said: A newbie of the year versus Soon be god next week. I hope that's the Chapter Title lol And man do I like your theory, red wires catch the attention, then hidden wires go off a few seconds after before the enemies notice. Osamu would need to have a crazy strong grasp of how to maneuver his enemies, which he is also capable. Yes! |
MisterBonBonsMay 12, 2016 4:40 AM
| "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." - Liebert |
I already have pointed out the inconsistencies with a), b) and c) (it was within your posts, it's like a disagreement), but no problem mate. e.e You don't need to be a Spider-Man fan to know about him. He is like a cultural reference around the world but, whatever. Hmm...about this part (regarding Rinji), you have a POV but look: She doesn't said (specifically) Rinji or "a brother, a family-related". She just said "someone important" it could be "widespreaded" among the news and, also, maybe this is a common wish by those who want to take a trip to another world. Also, could be Replica. Replica was a hero of the Afto's invasion. He was concealed from the civilians but maybe not among the Border's employees (or a foul-mouthed one). |
KenboyMay 12, 2016 4:43 AM
| "[...]I have to admit I'm not a big anime fan. Most anime that makes it over here seems to be either about schoolgirls with supernatural powers who battle evil, or adolescent boys who - for some convoluted reason - wind up having to pilot big giant robots...although, today, you just need to put some boobs or harem and fantasy and it'll be 10/10." |
Thanks for understand mate. Maybe Ashihara don't want to make everything easy for T-2 (or even Katori Unit, without no points hahaha) and then Chika will not have some tricks or escape and then, Teruya kills her. Or, maybe, after this chaps hype, she does have a plan, a trick or whatever..we can expect anything XD I don't mind if Chika can get a point by doing something extraordinary. |
| "[...]I have to admit I'm not a big anime fan. Most anime that makes it over here seems to be either about schoolgirls with supernatural powers who battle evil, or adolescent boys who - for some convoluted reason - wind up having to pilot big giant robots...although, today, you just need to put some boobs or harem and fantasy and it'll be 10/10." |
| I had the idea that scorpion could plug the wound, but I thought that might make it too versatile. Oh well, It's nice to see Osamu get his points. |
| Last chapter I was bashing Ashihara for making Yuma look bad, but this chapter made Yuma a badass. I wouldn't have possible if Yuma didn't take that damage. Sorry Ashihara for doubting you. So why does Katori and Wakamura trip after seeing Red Wire? It could be due to the Red Wire creates a color blind effect to other wires at the close proximity. So when an opponent sees the Red Wire, it creates color blind effect corresponding to that wire which is set up for tripping the opponent. The wire becomes invisible to the enemies due to the optical illusion made by the Red Wire. |
Blackstaff said: The chapter looks great. Can't wait for the raw... I've seen that usually, during the blurb before the rank wars, there are hints to what will happened : suwa saying that Hisato should block Kuga and be shot whith him or the preparation to the 4th round and all the bad omen around Osamu. And here, we have this sentence from Sakurako about T-2 : "Their weakness is that basically apart from their ace agent Kuga, they can't score a point. Being able to overcome this weakness will be a keypart of their success in returning to the upper ranks !". Now that Osamu has scored two points and him not being worried at all for Chika, I'm quite tempted to think that she's going to pin down Teruya with its hound lead bullet (also foreshadowed before) and scores her first point afterward. Though that would mean that Kakizaki team will leave this fight with 0 points... Nah, I think Kakizaki will get a point because Katori will miss going for the kill blow on Yuma and only cause enough damage to give Kakizaki the point. |
| Well... I'm not a big fan of Osamu but can't deny his transformation and great skill in this chapter. I'm a fan of Yuma but that scorpion bandage is ridiculusly OP. Not in a good way. In a cheap, unbelievable way. I don't care how imaginative he is, scorpion has been around Border for YEARS and you are telling me that such an incredible technique was unknown or a well kept secret... -__- Never mind that, if you can stop trion leaking this way, why hasn't trion bandages been invented. It seems they would by a million times easier to create the scorpion and most agents have plenty of free slots to have another trigger. |
| Concerning Chika, I don't see why she would be more willing to shoot someone now more than 5 minutes ago. The ultimate shield theory makes sense... if you assume she can have her shield out indefinitely! I don't think so. I think Border's shield work a little bit like in Super Smash Bros, they have a maximum amount of time they can be deployed. We already know that Chika's surplus trion makes it stronger so we can assume it doesn't make it last longer. We don't have any proof of that theory one way or an other but that's something she could have used so many times before... Like why bail out in the last match? Also, I would assume that it is part why they created Raygust, to have something more permanent. However it is suspicious that they would leave Chika alone. Maybe they are just willing to loose their sniper since they could reduce the number of fighters and thus the need for her. Maybe they have a contingency plan and when Teruya is too close, Chika will jump in the wire zone and outrun Teruya there. |
LuzNight said: Well... I'm not a big fan of Osamu but can't deny his transformation and great skill in this chapter. I'm a fan of Yuma but that scorpion bandage is ridiculusly OP. Not in a good way. In a cheap, unbelievable way. I don't care how imaginative he is, scorpion has been around Border for YEARS and you are telling me that such an incredible technique was unknown or a well kept secret... -__- Never mind that, if you can stop trion leaking this way, why hasn't trion bandages been invented. It seems they would by a million times easier to create the scorpion and most agents have plenty of free slots to have another trigger. Well it seemed like Izumi was the only one who didn't know about it. Tokieda seemed to know about it which makes sense considering he uses scorpion. |
Chung2 said: Yuma has been training in combat for 9 years prior. Except for the people from Older Border (Rindo, Shinoda, Konami, maybe Jin too, etc... ) everyone else has at most 4 years of experience. Trion and Triggers are new concepts to them in general compared to a Neighbor like Yuma.I'm totally with LuzNight on that point. Scorpion has been in Border forever, and no one has thought of using it that way? Even knowing the fact that it can be shaped into anything? Also I wouldn't go as far as saying Yuma has more exp than anyone in boirder combined, how do we know he does? He might've been traveling around neighbour world for a long time doesn't mean his father had voluntarily thrown him at enemies from such a young age. Maybe Chika has a gunner trigger with lead bullet which she'll use for mid-close combat actions. Kitora used a preset mode of scorpion - leg blade. There are two extra modes for scorpion. It's not creativity, anyone can use it. That aside who said no one thought of this before? As far as we know no one has ever been put in a similar situation yet. > Have Scorpion > Lose a chunk of your torso in a 1 v 1 duel in a team battle > Have to rush to your team because they're noobs That's too specific. The only Scorpion users we've seen lose limbs are Yuma, Kitora, and Kazama squad members prior to this round. Kitora did use Scorpion to seal a wound. Kazama squad couldn't because they need Chameleon. Bandage Trigger sounds interesting though but I'm not sure how useful it would be on the whole; so far it seems most agents can handle Trion leakage from missing limbs and wounds like Yuma's could be rare occurrences. |
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Sedgewic said: LuzNight said: Well... I'm not a big fan of Osamu but can't deny his transformation and great skill in this chapter. I'm a fan of Yuma but that scorpion bandage is ridiculusly OP. Not in a good way. In a cheap, unbelievable way. I don't care how imaginative he is, scorpion has been around Border for YEARS and you are telling me that such an incredible technique was unknown or a well kept secret... -__- Never mind that, if you can stop trion leaking this way, why hasn't trion bandages been invented. It seems they would by a million times easier to create the scorpion and most agents have plenty of free slots to have another trigger. Maybe he thought about it based on his black trigger that is containing his real body, a thing that one would not think normally. Or maybe border people are just smart and skillful people, but not the most creative. That's my problem exactly. Creativity doesn't have much to do with experience and if it does it has to do with life experience not combat experience and Yuma is still younger than most agents. Yes, apparently other people like Tokieda knew it was possible but if that's the case how come it isn't more widespread. And at the end of the day, it still makes scorpion ridiculously over-powered. If you have a choice between such a powerful and versatile weapon why would you choose kogetsu? More durable? Bitch, please! Yuma has traded blows with many kogetsu user and the most we ever saw were little cracks after they had been sparing for a while. It's not a real downside when you compare it to all the advantages... |
Blackstaff said: Some new pages translated of the chapter : http://i.4cdn.org/a/1463076674331.png http://i.4cdn.org/a/1463076738367.png http://i.4cdn.org/a/1463076805146.png Thanks dude! Glad to see those panels of Osamu scoring, he blew Miura away! As for the previous links that show Yuma patching up his body with Scorpion, I don't know how I feel about him actually wrapping Scorpion around the wound several times. The bandaging makes it seem like there's that much Scorpion to spare. It seems like a bit much, at this point I'd be itching to see Jin wield Scorpion against him. Eh, it's Tamakoma 2's ace fighter so I guess it is what it is. Scorpion bandaging art thou set in stone. |
| "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." - Liebert |
LuzNight said: Again Scorpion is new and people might be hesitant to change their styles. Talented people like Jin or Katori or Kitora might be fine because they learn and adapt quickly, but what about someone like Wakamura or Osamu who needs 2 years? He can't just throw 2 years worth of hard work and start from scratch.Sedgewic said: Maybe he thought about it based on his black trigger that is containing his real body, a thing that one would not think normally. Or maybe border people are just smart and skillful people, but not the most creative. That's my problem exactly. Creativity doesn't have much to do with experience and if it does it has to do with life experience not combat experience and Yuma is still younger than most agents. Yes, apparently other people like Tokieda knew it was possible but if that's the case how come it isn't more widespread. And at the end of the day, it still makes scorpion ridiculously over-powered. If you have a choice between such a powerful and versatile weapon why would you choose kogetsu? More durable? Bitch, please! Yuma has traded blows with many kogetsu user and the most we ever saw were little cracks after they had been sparing for a while. It's not a real downside when you compare it to all the advantages... Also remember that Yuma is using up one of his Trigger slots like this. Previously he could do two things and juggle between attack/defense/mobility, now his abilities have been at least cut in half not to mention he already lost a lot of Trion. It may let you stay in the fight longer but you'd still be somewhat crippled. |
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LuzNight said: Sedgewic said: Maybe he thought about it based on his black trigger that is containing his real body, a thing that one would not think normally. Or maybe border people are just smart and skillful people, but not the most creative. That's my problem exactly. Creativity doesn't have much to do with experience and if it does it has to do with life experience not combat experience and Yuma is still younger than most agents. Yes, apparently other people like Tokieda knew it was possible but if that's the case how come it isn't more widespread. And at the end of the day, it still makes scorpion ridiculously over-powered. If you have a choice between such a powerful and versatile weapon why would you choose kogetsu? More durable? Bitch, please! Yuma has traded blows with many kogetsu user and the most we ever saw were little cracks after they had been sparing for a while. It's not a real downside when you compare it to all the advantages... I agree with Botato. Scorpion needs three things: Trion, Skill and Creativity (although Creativity maybe can count as skill), and yes, idr cases of damaged abdomen in WT too but whatever. Well, think with me, we came all this way following WT, seeing fights and chars development but even we couldn't imagine that this could be possible (even when we saw how Hyuse "stabbed" Yotaro). Ok, we don't have the same experience and info about the weapons like the chars ('cause we're not a one) but, think the chars as someone like us (specially, the most, whose don't have too many dexterity with Scorpion like Low-B and C-rankers). Honestly, this is relative (yes, I'm saying this again). Even if Scorpion is some kind of OP weapon, I guess that you need more trion and skill than Kogetsu (who is more durable and stronger) to master it. Also, let's say that because of the "brute force" from Kogetsu and range, people tend to think that this weapon is better to choose. If we look, most of the Border's agents are in their 13~14s, so they're childs, they also can take into account things like aesthetics "woooow Kogetsu is so 'sugoi', I'll be a Samurai!!". Me, for example, if I were a Border Agent, I would choose the same set as Tachikawa (I like how Kogetsu resembles a Katana, although I prefer sniper/My father is a Vet, so..). May I have said something that seems silly but is my POV to show how things can be relative so we cannot judge or be upset by mere things like that. |
KenboyMay 12, 2016 12:15 PM
| "[...]I have to admit I'm not a big anime fan. Most anime that makes it over here seems to be either about schoolgirls with supernatural powers who battle evil, or adolescent boys who - for some convoluted reason - wind up having to pilot big giant robots...although, today, you just need to put some boobs or harem and fantasy and it'll be 10/10." |
| At the end of the day, Kogetsu hits the hardest especially if you are using Senku. Tachikawa killed Rabits way faster than Kazama could. |
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