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Mar 13, 2016 4:06 AM

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The music in the PV was seriously good and the art style gave me a seirei no moribito vibe, which looks great. So yeah, I'm sold.
5 main aspects I base my ratings on:
1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it?
2. Is it better than Breaking Bad?
3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it?
4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL?
5. Is it actually good?

Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant...
Mar 13, 2016 4:17 AM

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So this is the key visual for the anime.



Uwoooh this is bad. Serously, madhouse fanboys, I want to hear you justify this one. If you can, that is.

Furthermore, from the pv, I'd say that they're going to rush it completely. That item he's having in his hand... That symbol... IS not something you see in the first 3 volumes (seen for the first time at the beginning of volume 4) and only get really seen in the end of the 5th volume.
One of the sentence he said too... Isn't that from the 6th volume? May be forgetting something but... Seriously? Isn't that supposed to be a PV?
Either that or the flow of the story will be quite heavily altered.

Great, another novel butchering by a Studio that has become in those past few years real specialists on the subject, Madhouse.
How lucky RnY was to avoid that kind of studio and get respected properly in this day and age, seriously.


and you're already condemning the adaptation on a 1 min pv, how is that any different?

This could be a 2cour thing adapting 6-7 vols which is the norm for dangeki bunko titles (index, mahouka)

What I dont understand is the artstyle change, not even following the original LN art. very unusual & odd for today's "moe" standard (those lips).

Obviously madhouse and staff got approved by the author & committee, makes it even more unusual.

Looks like the anime is going to be it's own thing more than an adaptation imo.

I like the look overall, artstyle will require getting used to.
Imagine a berserk anime by Yoshiaki kawajiri at Madhouse.

Now take a look at Berserk (2016).

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Mar 13, 2016 4:23 AM

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@eromangasensei Yes, here is what I wrote on animesuki to complement what I said here.
"Well,Maybe I'm forgetting something.
Several thing to consider. This would NOT kill the plot for the characters to have that thing around rather than having it from volume 4 onward. That item would not change a single thing in the whole arc 1-2-3-4 after all. SHowing it in the PV don't spoil anything, either.
However, there is no reason to have the character having that item now (and focus that much on it on the PV already, too) if they don't intend to go far enough to use it in the plot. Meaning, end of volume 5 is the soonest they can stop for this to make sense.
This makes already a very rushed adaptation if this is one cour for 5 volumes. Of course, there's always the 2 cours solution but... I don't think Alderamin's sales warrant such thing from dengeki bunko. Why not. That's the only way it wouldn't be rushed considering the PV content. "



This still doesn't look good. Because it's, like you said, a ONE MINUTE PV. And the first one to make it worse. And in there they already show stuff important from volume 5 onward? If they were to do a two cours, then this means that the PV is showing content from the end of the 2nd cour.
That's not unheard off. But this is highly worrisome.
Mar 13, 2016 5:00 AM

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Zefyris said:
@eromangasensei Yes, here is what I wrote on animesuki to complement what I said here.
"Well,Maybe I'm forgetting something.
Several thing to consider. This would NOT kill the plot for the characters to have that thing around rather than having it from volume 4 onward. That item would not change a single thing in the whole arc 1-2-3-4 after all. SHowing it in the PV don't spoil anything, either.
However, there is no reason to have the character having that item now (and focus that much on it on the PV already, too) if they don't intend to go far enough to use it in the plot. Meaning, end of volume 5 is the soonest they can stop for this to make sense.
This makes already a very rushed adaptation if this is one cour for 5 volumes. Of course, there's always the 2 cours solution but... I don't think Alderamin's sales warrant such thing from dengeki bunko. Why not. That's the only way it wouldn't be rushed considering the PV content. "



This still doesn't look good. Because it's, like you said, a ONE MINUTE PV. And the first one to make it worse. And in there they already show stuff important from volume 5 onward? If they were to do a two cours, then this means that the PV is showing content from the end of the 2nd cour.
That's not unheard off. But this is highly worrisome.


yeah, it is kinda worrisome. Tho i dont expect much from LN anime in first place.

This could be 2cour. I think warner bros released this pv, so warner + kadokawa group + others might cut the budget.
Imagine a berserk anime by Yoshiaki kawajiri at Madhouse.

Now take a look at Berserk (2016).

YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION TO CRY.
Mar 13, 2016 5:11 AM

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I don't want to judge the series while it isn't even out but that sameface artstyle though. Lmao
Mar 13, 2016 7:04 AM
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Z4k said:
I don't want to judge the series while it isn't even out but that sameface artstyle though. Lmao
Same here and considering that the people that promotes series like SAO and Accel World, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of this being 2 cour either
Mar 13, 2016 7:27 AM

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Wait a second... It looks like CGI!

THOSE FUCKERS!!!
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Mar 13, 2016 9:19 PM
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Zefyris said:
@eromangasensei Yes, here is what I wrote on animesuki to complement what I said here.
"Well,Maybe I'm forgetting something.
Several thing to consider. This would NOT kill the plot for the characters to have that thing around rather than having it from volume 4 onward. That item would not change a single thing in the whole arc 1-2-3-4 after all. SHowing it in the PV don't spoil anything, either.
However, there is no reason to have the character having that item now (and focus that much on it on the PV already, too) if they don't intend to go far enough to use it in the plot. Meaning, end of volume 5 is the soonest they can stop for this to make sense.
This makes already a very rushed adaptation if this is one cour for 5 volumes. Of course, there's always the 2 cours solution but... I don't think Alderamin's sales warrant such thing from dengeki bunko. Why not. That's the only way it wouldn't be rushed considering the PV content. "



This still doesn't look good. Because it's, like you said, a ONE MINUTE PV. And the first one to make it worse. And in there they already show stuff important from volume 5 onward? If they were to do a two cours, then this means that the PV is showing content from the end of the 2nd cour.
That's not unheard off. But this is highly worrisome.

Once again you become time traveler , remember you said Rokka will doing volume 2 and/or later volume? i still waiting.
And really, if a PV can show that scene from this late, it's likely means good thing because the staff do read the LN and they possibly(i use "possibly" since i'm not a time traveler so i can't 100% sure anything unlike you) already done a lot episodes and that can avoid production disaster.
But also it's possibly means nothing because there were shows PV had a scene/dialogue that never show up in actual episodes.
Of course it can also means they just rush it like you said, but hey, i don't know which route will happen, can you turn on your time machine and go travel one more time to tell us?
D-JoeMar 13, 2016 9:38 PM
Mar 14, 2016 2:08 AM

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D-Joe said:
Zefyris said:
@eromangasensei Yes, here is what I wrote on animesuki to complement what I said here.
"Well,Maybe I'm forgetting something.
Several thing to consider. This would NOT kill the plot for the characters to have that thing around rather than having it from volume 4 onward. That item would not change a single thing in the whole arc 1-2-3-4 after all. SHowing it in the PV don't spoil anything, either.
However, there is no reason to have the character having that item now (and focus that much on it on the PV already, too) if they don't intend to go far enough to use it in the plot. Meaning, end of volume 5 is the soonest they can stop for this to make sense.
This makes already a very rushed adaptation if this is one cour for 5 volumes. Of course, there's always the 2 cours solution but... I don't think Alderamin's sales warrant such thing from dengeki bunko. Why not. That's the only way it wouldn't be rushed considering the PV content. "



This still doesn't look good. Because it's, like you said, a ONE MINUTE PV. And the first one to make it worse. And in there they already show stuff important from volume 5 onward? If they were to do a two cours, then this means that the PV is showing content from the end of the 2nd cour.
That's not unheard off. But this is highly worrisome.

Once again you become time traveler , remember you said Rokka will doing volume 2 and/or later volume? i still waiting.
And really, if a PV can show that scene from this late, it's likely means good thing because the staff do read the LN and they possibly(i use "possibly" since i'm not a time traveler so i can't 100% sure anything unlike you) already done a lot episodes and that can avoid production disaster.
But also it's possibly means nothing because there were shows PV had a scene/dialogue that never show up in actual episodes.
Of course it can also means they just rush it like you said, but hey, i don't know which route will happen, can you turn on your time machine and go travel one more time to tell us?


AFAIK, showing in a PV a scene from a volume that ends up ot being adapted is quite rare (can only think of one case actually) and this only happens when a studio think he will reach that volume in early production but ends up having the anime finishing one volume earlier after further adjustment.

So event taking that rare case in account, there is still only four different cases.

1) they went 1 volume too far in the pv and it will be one cour -> that's 6 volume in one cour. Still a complete butchery .
2) They went 1 volume too far in the pv and it will be two cours ->6 volumes for 2 cours is a better deal by far. That's still rushed, and this is, mind you,the best scenario we can get right now.
3) they will go to volume 7 and it will be one cour -> worse case scenario
4)they will go to volume 7 and it will be 2 cours -> still very rushed.

You know that there is ALWAYS some staff members who read the original right? In case like KyouHora, AFAIK all or almost all the internal member of the production staff read the volumes, even though it's a tough read and it's freaking long. Of course there's some peoples who read the volumes... And no this doesn't mean the production is already well advanced.
Mar 14, 2016 2:57 AM
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Zefyris said:
D-Joe said:

Once again you become time traveler , remember you said Rokka will doing volume 2 and/or later volume? i still waiting.
And really, if a PV can show that scene from this late, it's likely means good thing because the staff do read the LN and they possibly(i use "possibly" since i'm not a time traveler so i can't 100% sure anything unlike you) already done a lot episodes and that can avoid production disaster.
But also it's possibly means nothing because there were shows PV had a scene/dialogue that never show up in actual episodes.
Of course it can also means they just rush it like you said, but hey, i don't know which route will happen, can you turn on your time machine and go travel one more time to tell us?


AFAIK, showing in a PV a scene from a volume that ends up ot being adapted is quite rare (can only think of one case actually) and this only happens when a studio think he will reach that volume in early production but ends up having the anime finishing one volume earlier after further adjustment.

So event taking that rare case in account, there is still only four different cases.

1) they went 1 volume too far in the pv and it will be one cour -> that's 6 volume in one cour. Still a complete butchery .
2) They went 1 volume too far in the pv and it will be two cours ->6 volumes for 2 cours is a better deal by far. That's still rushed, and this is, mind you,the best scenario we can get right now.
3) they will go to volume 7 and it will be one cour -> worse case scenario
4)they will go to volume 7 and it will be 2 cours -> still very rushed.

You know that there is ALWAYS some staff members who read the original right? In case like KyouHora, AFAIK all or almost all the internal member of the production staff read the volumes, even though it's a tough read and it's freaking long. Of course there's some peoples who read the volumes... And no this doesn't mean the production is already well advanced.

Sorry but some staff read it means nothing, if that staff member isn't one of/all of main staffs, like none of any Utawarerumono: The False Faces main staff played the game and see what happens to that show now.

Also please go time travel again, we need to know what kind of route they go since you 100% know it.
Mar 15, 2016 12:00 AM
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Synopsis only mentions guy mc in strange English like a Chinese google translation. Sounds like Gate, but doesn't say anything different from the LN crowd. Pv seems like mc is the red hair girl. Very nice backgrounds. Designs are unusual, lipstick, freckles etc.
Strange I've seen 9 shows with Yasukawa & didn't know his name, mostly watchable/lighthearted shows like Neptunia to Souma, even Cavalry. Only dropped Argevollen. The other staff I dunno.
Mar 15, 2016 3:11 AM

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D-Joe said:
Zefyris said:


AFAIK, showing in a PV a scene from a volume that ends up ot being adapted is quite rare (can only think of one case actually) and this only happens when a studio think he will reach that volume in early production but ends up having the anime finishing one volume earlier after further adjustment.

So event taking that rare case in account, there is still only four different cases.

1) they went 1 volume too far in the pv and it will be one cour -> that's 6 volume in one cour. Still a complete butchery .
2) They went 1 volume too far in the pv and it will be two cours ->6 volumes for 2 cours is a better deal by far. That's still rushed, and this is, mind you,the best scenario we can get right now.
3) they will go to volume 7 and it will be one cour -> worse case scenario
4)they will go to volume 7 and it will be 2 cours -> still very rushed.

You know that there is ALWAYS some staff members who read the original right? In case like KyouHora, AFAIK all or almost all the internal member of the production staff read the volumes, even though it's a tough read and it's freaking long. Of course there's some peoples who read the volumes... And no this doesn't mean the production is already well advanced.

Sorry but some staff read it means nothing, if that staff member isn't one of/all of main staffs, like none of any Utawarerumono: The False Faces main staff played the game and see what happens to that show now.

Also please go time travel again, we need to know what kind of route they go since you 100% know it.


The main staff reading the novel they adapt is logical and usually happening. There's nothing surprising about that. Games adaptation/Eroge are a different problem and I wasn't talking about that.
Alderamin is a novel, and I've never heard of a novel adaptation with the main staff not reading them.

Rather than knowing about an anime, you should be more interested in knowing if someday in the future you'll finally grow up.
Mar 15, 2016 4:30 AM
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Zefyris said:
D-Joe said:

Sorry but some staff read it means nothing, if that staff member isn't one of/all of main staffs, like none of any Utawarerumono: The False Faces main staff played the game and see what happens to that show now.

Also please go time travel again, we need to know what kind of route they go since you 100% know it.


The main staff reading the novel they adapt is logical and usually happening. There's nothing surprising about that. Games adaptation/Eroge are a different problem and I wasn't talking about that.
Alderamin is a novel, and I've never heard of a novel adaptation with the main staff not reading them.

Rather than knowing about an anime, you should be more interested in knowing if someday in the future you'll finally grow up.

Oh great, just because someone not being negative to a show that won't air til 4 months later so you starting personal attack?

How about you stop your forcing "only x different cases can happen even i only watched a 1 minute teaser and they showed something in later volume, and i'm 100% sure it will be rushed and it will be bad adaption even i know nothing other than the trailer".

Logical huh, i tell you what is logical: IF anime end up being bad adaption, i will trash talk on it, and don't worry not just me, many people(even only watched anime) also will do the same, that is logical. And what you doing right now is nothing more than just spreading FUD.
D-JoeMar 15, 2016 4:39 AM
Mar 27, 2016 9:26 AM

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Not really feeling the character design tbh...I mean look at those lips lol.
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