Nintendo started to take down TAS and Rom Hacking videos of their games in youtube

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i agree with them here im ati emulation

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DateYutaka said:
i agree with them here im ati emulation

then you are not PURE liberal like what you claim on other threads

money first before consumers are the thinking of republicans

Sep 12, 2015 6:20 PM

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Why does it matter to them what you're doing with a system they don't even produce anymore?

Sep 12, 2015 6:21 PM

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im a nintendo fan an this doesnt affect me in any way

Sep 12, 2015 6:27 PM

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DateYutaka said:
i agree with them here im ati emulation

then you are not PURE liberal like what you claim on other threads

money first before consumers are the thinking of republicans

Shhhhh
If it's Japan it's ok

Sep 12, 2015 6:31 PM

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DateYutaka said:
i agree with them here im ati emulation

then you are not PURE liberal like what you claim on other threads

money first before consumers are the thinking of republicans

im a social Democrat simple put and iv always been anti illgial emulation

play the fucking game legally or not at all iv plats played my game legally why can others not

i never said i was Liberal in the us sense of the word ie pseudo left

hoe much of there so called left winger in the states have marched in union march non 0 zip most liberals in the us are psudo left wing centrist cowing to the right todey shitehawks

Obama clinton and that whole lot included stealing is wrong nintendo is not an unjust comapy this is not stealing from the unjust like the big banks the right bailed out or ge who the right bailed out or GM who the right bailed out

nintendo are not shell or alike who damge the wotrld to make a profit and beg the goverment ofr corporate welfare

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Sep 12, 2015 6:31 PM

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Nintendo is making me sad again
please stop

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I get the Emulation videos...but why speed runs?

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i have palpable amounts of salt for FO4.
It's like a clown put on my dead dad's clothes and is running around my house going "LOOK I'M YOUR DAD, ISN'T THIS FUN?!?!"

Sep 12, 2015 6:33 PM

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CommanderCaim said:

j0x said:

then you are not PURE liberal like what you claim on other threads

money first before consumers are the thinking of republicans

Shhhhh
If it's Japan it's ok

nope nevr said that id agest the KLP bing in power here as much as i would be if a zelot like a fw of the Gop'ers are in the us it you who show bias and your pro war stance sicken me too

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Sep 12, 2015 6:34 PM

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I get the Emulation videos...but why speed runs?

because you have to write a program on your computer and most likely are using ROMs to achieve these speed runs with your "Tools"

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Syrup- said:

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I get the Emulation videos...but why speed runs?

because you have to write a program on your computer and most likely are using ROMs to achieve these speed runs with your "Tools"

Yeah, missed the assisted tool part in the OP.

I guess if Nintendo can't prove that you legally paid for your ROM they want to be better safe than sorry.

I don't think it should matter to them though if they aren't promoting illegally downloading their games. Nintendo as a company isn't doing too well so I can see it's over reaction to this type of thing.

the40ftbadger said:
i have palpable amounts of salt for FO4.
It's like a clown put on my dead dad's clothes and is running around my house going "LOOK I'M YOUR DAD, ISN'T THIS FUN?!?!"

Sep 12, 2015 6:41 PM

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I love the ability to just download SMB whenever I want off the internet for no charge.

But it is piracy. I can't refute that, and I think they are totally in the right.

Sep 12, 2015 6:41 PM

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I am so pro emulation.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.

Sep 12, 2015 6:43 PM

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DateYutaka said:

j0x said:

then you are not PURE liberal like what you claim on other threads

money first before consumers are the thinking of republicans

Obama clinton and that whole lot included stealing is wrong nintendo is not an unjust comapy this is not stealing from the unjust like the big banks the right bailed out or ge who the right bailed out or GM who the right bailed out

nintendo are not shell or alike who damge the wotrld to make a profit and beg the goverment ofr corporate welfare

Emulation isn't stealing though. It's copyright infringement, but not stealing.

Also emulation offers a service that Nintendo and many other publishers haven't been doing well which is letting us play some damn games.

Sep 12, 2015 6:48 PM

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Nintendo is out of touch with gamers, Youtube is paramount for everything related to gaming these days even if it's just trailers, if it's not on YT in some way, shape, or form unhindered or mostly unhindered, it won't sell, taking content related to your IPs off Youtube will lead to their eventual industry suicide because even the hardcore Nintendo fans will have enough and stop buying their products.

Sep 12, 2015 6:53 PM

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DateYutaka said:

Obama clinton and that whole lot included stealing is wrong nintendo is not an unjust comapy this is not stealing from the unjust like the big banks the right bailed out or ge who the right bailed out or GM who the right bailed out

nintendo are not shell or alike who damge the wotrld to make a profit and beg the goverment ofr corporate welfare

Emulation isn't stealing though. It's copyright infringement, but not stealing.

Also emulation offers a service that Nintendo and many other publishers haven't been doing well which is letting us play some damn games.

I don't disagree with that so many old games are virtually unplayable just as a matter of them being unnatainable. While I think piracy is wrong in general, I don't think it's wrong of us to resort to piracy to play these games.

However SMB has been available for a long while now, ever since the Wii, and on multiple systems.

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DateYutaka said:

Obama clinton and that whole lot included stealing is wrong nintendo is not an unjust comapy this is not stealing from the unjust like the big banks the right bailed out or ge who the right bailed out or GM who the right bailed out

nintendo are not shell or alike who damge the wotrld to make a profit and beg the goverment ofr corporate welfare

Emulation isn't stealing though. It's copyright infringement, but not stealing.

Also emulation offers a service that Nintendo and many other publishers haven't been doing well which is letting us play some damn games.

caim flip this around when china are cought steeling Us IP rights you get piss of as do alot of people in the us even tougth copy wight lawas are diffrent in china to the the have first to file not first to use

but the anger is t stil there there is psme time im pro piracy like when a liancsor make more money of the produnt than the perosn who made the prodcut to begin with i say better both make no money than the parasite make more than the creator

making money off stuff you have no right ot od so is wrong im an oirgnak hard were purist also but over all
if you monetize a copy right infringeed video that copywight infringement becomes Copy wight theft

uless is under full fare terms od the DMCA ir criticism commentate or parody thats is like TB ofr exmaple as muc as i diss agree with iim on alot of things him get a video taken down whren it was in fair use was wrong but stuff that is not under fair use should be taken down

if these were not under fair use then yes they should be taken down

thats is the letter of the law

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Sep 12, 2015 6:59 PM

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CommanderCaim said:

Emulation isn't stealing though. It's copyright infringement, but not stealing.

Also emulation offers a service that Nintendo and many other publishers haven't been doing well which is letting us play some damn games.

I don't disagree with that so many old games are virtually unplayable just as a matter of them being unnatainable. While I think piracy is wrong in general, I don't think it's wrong of us to resort to piracy to play these games.

However SMB has been available for a long while now, ever since the Wii, and on multiple systems.

there no unattainable i can og ot bookoff or hardoff and get retrogme[ nad yes i think there are one or both of them chains in the us [ in some cities]

hell even age stop are doing retro games in the us now there is no excure for emulation now

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Sep 12, 2015 7:25 PM

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I don't disagree with that so many old games are virtually unplayable just as a matter of them being unnatainable. While I think piracy is wrong in general, I don't think it's wrong of us to resort to piracy to play these games.

However SMB has been available for a long while now, ever since the Wii, and on multiple systems.

Sure, when an updated and current service allows us to obtain old games, then emulation loses a bit of justification. But so far, Nintendo still isn't really offering an adequate selection of its classics yet. Sony used to be adequate with its classics as well (Being able to access a numerous amount of the PS2 library on PS3) but not anymore after the switch to PS4.

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hell even age stop are doing retro games in the us now there is no excure for emulation now

That's a lie. It is virtually impossible for me to legally play Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War in the US because it has never been localized. I would have to learn Japanese and import a famicon along with the game itself. But at that point, emulation simply offers a better service. Why should I do all of the former when I can download a SNES online and play an english translated rom of Genealogy of the Holy War instead?

To paraphrase Gabe Newell: “The easiest way to stop piracy is by giving those people a service that’s better than what they’re receiving from the pirates.”

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Thrashinuva said:
I don't disagree with that so many old games are virtually unplayable just as a matter of them being unnatainable. While I think piracy is wrong in general, I don't think it's wrong of us to resort to piracy to play these games.

However SMB has been available for a long while now, ever since the Wii, and on multiple systems.

Sure, when an updated and current service allows us to obtain old games, then emulation loses a bit of justification. But so far, Nintendo still isn't really offering an adequate selection of its classics yet. Sony used to be adequate with its classics as well (Being able to access a numerous amount of the PS2 library on PS3) but not anymore after the switch to PS4.

I wouldn't support Nintendo if they started to take down things like FE6 translated videos and basically anything that currently isn't available.

I also recognize that for a lot of people it would mean going from something they got for free to something they have to pay for, which doesn't make sense from a consumer standpoint.

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Thrashinuva said:
I don't disagree with that so many old games are virtually unplayable just as a matter of them being unnatainable. While I think piracy is wrong in general, I don't think it's wrong of us to resort to piracy to play these games.

However SMB has been available for a long while now, ever since the Wii, and on multiple systems.

Sure, when an updated and current service allows us to obtain old games, then emulation loses a bit of justification. But so far, Nintendo still isn't really offering an adequate selection of its classics yet. Sony used to be adequate with its classics as well (Being able to access a numerous amount of the PS2 library on PS3) but not anymore after the switch to PS4.

DateYutaka said:
hell even age stop are doing retro games in the us now there is no excure for emulation now

That's a lie. It is virtually impossible for me to legally play Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War in the US because it has never been localized. I would have to learn Japanese and import a famicon along with the game itself. But at that point, emulation simply offers a better service. Why should I do all of the former when I can download a SNES online and play an english translated rom of Genealogy of the Holy War instead?

To paraphrase Gabe Newell: “The easiest way to stop piracy is by giving those people a service that’s better than what they’re receiving from the pirates.”

is on t the wii VC here only fo them many reason in copre ot the other two consoole i sat the wii had the better onlie store

last time i wnet to hard off there was a famicom for 1500 yen that under 15 usd by crrunet exocahe rate shippng [ is you have a hardoff/bookoff in yiur city would impoat for you would be under 10 usd so 20usd or less it ot much for you

legal emulation is available as well for that game and the frist three games and gaiden too

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Sep 12, 2015 8:02 PM

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Nintendo is still stuck in the 90's.

Sep 12, 2015 8:23 PM

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The TAS and ROM hacking videos help expose people to the games. It's not like it's harming anybody.

But hey, I mean if that's what they wanna do, go ahead.

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The TAS and ROM hacking videos help expose people to the games. It's not like it's harming anybody.

But hey, I mean if that's what they wanna do, go ahead.

TAS and Rom hacking introduces people to Roms. TAS is the question "but how did they do this?" and Rom is just... self explanatory.

IMO they should include SMB 1-3 and SM world in Super Mario Maker, and release new versions of Maker periodically with updated content.

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zetsubousei_hero said:
Nintendo is still stuck in the 90's.

that's the only time they mattered

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Valaskjalf said:

zetsubousei_hero said:
Nintendo is still stuck in the 90's.

that's the only time they mattered

Tru

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Thrashinuva said:

CommanderCaim said:

Sure, when an updated and current service allows us to obtain old games, then emulation loses a bit of justification. But so far, Nintendo still isn't really offering an adequate selection of its classics yet. Sony used to be adequate with its classics as well (Being able to access a numerous amount of the PS2 library on PS3) but not anymore after the switch to PS4.

I wouldn't support Nintendo if they started to take down things like FE6 translated videos and basically anything that currently isn't available.

I also recognize that for a lot of people it would mean going from something they got for free to something they have to pay for, which doesn't make sense from a consumer standpoint.

Well it kinda does make sense from a consumer standpoint. Support the products you love and you're going to get more from the maker. Despite being an emulation favorite for an entire decade, Earthbound had an incredible sales response when it released on NA virtual console. So much so that Iwata supported the idea of finally localizing Mother 1 and 3 in English.

Listen to the fans -> Provide a service better than piracy and competitors -> Both sides benefit.

It's exactly the reason why Steam and Sony are getting more and more of their target audience.

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Nintendo. Sigh.

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because you have to write a program on your computer and most likely are using ROMs to achieve these speed runs with your "Tools"

Yeah, missed the assisted tool part in the OP.

I guess if Nintendo can't prove that you legally paid for your ROM they want to be better safe than sorry.

I don't think it should matter to them though if they aren't promoting illegally downloading their games. Nintendo as a company isn't doing too well so I can see it's over reaction to this type of thing.

That kind of stuff doesn't make sense to me. "We wont release it on Virtual Console, and we wont see the money for it if you buy it used, BUT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO EMULATE OUR GAMES EITHER". When did gaming ever stop being about gaming, and start being completely about money? Makes me sad.

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When did gaming ever stop being about gaming, and start being completely about money? Makes me sad.

They made Tennis for two, which was made to prove a point, and was basically the first computer game and a rudimentary version of pong. Basically everything after that was for money.

CommanderCaim said:

Thrashinuva said:

I wouldn't support Nintendo if they started to take down things like FE6 translated videos and basically anything that currently isn't available.

I also recognize that for a lot of people it would mean going from something they got for free to something they have to pay for, which doesn't make sense from a consumer standpoint.

Well it kinda does make sense from a consumer standpoint. Support the products you love and you're going to get more from the maker. Despite being an emulation favorite for an entire decade, Earthbound had an incredible sales response when it released on NA virtual console. So much so that Iwata supported the idea of finally localizing Mother 1 and 3 in English.

Listen to the fans -> Provide a service better than piracy and competitors -> Both sides benefit.

It's exactly the reason why Steam and Sony are getting more and more of their target audience.

Yeah I wasn't quite in that line of thinking. I've spent thousands on Steam (not bragging). I've bought games I never would have even pirated. It's an extremely easy service to use, that is easier to do than pirate games.

These days you can even buy PSN games straight from your PC. X-Box is headed in that direction as well, probably. Nintendo might not be far behind though, as you can access Miiverse through its website.

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This really isn't much of a big deal at all, but I do think Nintendo *really* needs to listen to its fans better. The release of Mario Maker is a step in the right direction at least.

Hopefully they'll give us an actual Metroid and F-Zero title, localize the Earthbound and Fire Emblem titles they haven't already, and be open to more third-party support. *points to signature* ;-)

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Nintendo are faggots

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Love how they are basically cutting down on their own publicity.

It's not like Nintendo is already sitting upon stacks and stacks of money anyways.

They did the same with Project Melee... they are retarded lol

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Love how they are basically cutting down on their own publicity.

It's not like Nintendo is already sitting upon stacks and stacks of money anyways.

They did the same with Project Melee... they are retarded lol

well they did made 200 million profit some months ago

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Valaskjalf said:

that's the only time they mattered

Tru

Amen.

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Amen.

sales say different add sale og DS and Wii they bury the sales of anything lats gen by at lest 3 to one

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sales say different add sale og DS and Wii they bury the sales of anything lats gen by at lest 3 to one

Not in their sales but their mind, it's like they're still scared of the internet...

Sep 13, 2015 4:30 PM

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sales say different add sale og DS and Wii they bury the sales of anything lats gen by at lest 3 to one

gaming during the 90s wasn't as even close to as big as it is now. Sales don't matter here.

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DateYutaka said:
sales say different add sale og DS and Wii they bury the sales of anything lats gen by at lest 3 to one

gaming during the 90s wasn't as even close to as big as it is now. Sales don't matter here.

right ho does how judge the uscsess of a system why are people calling the wii i a falure cuae of low sales sales do matter here

"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong

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DateYutaka said:

Syrup- said:

gaming during the 90s wasn't as even close to as big as it is now. Sales don't matter here.

right ho does how judge the uscsess of a system why are people calling the wii i a falure cuae of low sales sales do matter here

Sales /=/ quality

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right ho does how judge the uscsess of a system why are people calling the wii i a falure cuae of low sales sales do matter here

Sales /=/ quality

sales=success not quilty

"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
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Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong

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DateYutaka said:

CommanderCaim said:

Sales /=/ quality

sales=success not quilty

Financial success, yes, but as a platform for gaming? No. Failure it is.

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