There my second incest couple unless they are not related at all.
Other than that it is Haru x Sora from Yosuga no sora
I ship them a lot she is pretty but she could stop saying onisama?! Gosh ( it is annoying)
We'll probably get a plot twist: Iam sure it would be Erika who'd Tatsuya ending up~
Here is why:>
1.)Tatsuya cant love anyone other than his sister; which he doesnt see as a romantic partner;~
2.) Tatsuya only considers Leo, Miki, Mizuki and Erika as his friends. meaning they are Tatasuya's closest love/like relationship~:
3.) Basically Erika is already Tatsuya's "Girl" "Friend" lol =)
4.) Tatsuya X Erika has already shown special concern about each other; only difference is their feelings are what they are afraid/clinging to.
Erika doesnt want romantic relationship because it might destroy the "best time of her life". She feels satisfied just being with Tatsuya.
Tatsuya cant have romantic relationship with anyone because he lacks the "emotion". He feels satisfied just having sisterly love~
What they need to be an OTP is that they need to go out of their comfort zone and learn a thing about love ;P
orig55 said: We'll probably get a plot twist: Iam sure it would be Erika who'd Tatsuya ending up~
Here is why:>
1.)Tatsuya cant love anyone other than his sister; which he doesnt see as a romantic partner;~
2.) Tatsuya only considers Leo, Miki, Mizuki and Erika as his friends. meaning they are Tatasuya's closest love/like relationship~:
3.) Basically Erika is already Tatsuya's "Girl" "Friend" lol =)
4.) Tatsuya X Erika has already shown special concern about each other; only difference is their feelings are what they are afraid/clinging to.
Erika doesnt want romantic relationship because it might destroy the "best time of her life". She feels satisfied just being with Tatsuya.
Tatsuya cant have romantic relationship with anyone because he lacks the "emotion". He feels satisfied just having sisterly love~
What they need to be an OTP is that they need to go out of their comfort zone and learn a thing about love ;P
A "K" "I" "S" "S" would do the trick;~
PS: ERIKA RAVU <3
Rather not.
1) True.
2) Leo, Miki, Mizuki and Erica consider Tatsuya as friend, but he just categorize them as non-hostile to him or Miyuki.
3) Vide 2)
4) Maybe it's something wrong with me, but I didn't notice it.
If I had to guess, Tatsuya will end up as old virgin.
orig55 said: We'll probably get a plot twist: Iam sure it would be Erika who'd Tatsuya ending up~
Here is why:>
1.)Tatsuya cant love anyone other than his sister; which he doesnt see as a romantic partner;~
2.) Tatsuya only considers Leo, Miki, Mizuki and Erika as his friends. meaning they are Tatasuya's closest love/like relationship~:
3.) Basically Erika is already Tatsuya's "Girl" "Friend" lol =)
4.) Tatsuya X Erika has already shown special concern about each other; only difference is their feelings are what they are afraid/clinging to.
Erika doesnt want romantic relationship because it might destroy the "best time of her life". She feels satisfied just being with Tatsuya.
Tatsuya cant have romantic relationship with anyone because he lacks the "emotion". He feels satisfied just having sisterly love~
What they need to be an OTP is that they need to go out of their comfort zone and learn a thing about love ;P
A "K" "I" "S" "S" would do the trick;~
PS: ERIKA RAVU <3
Erika will end up with LeO, It's as clear as day =))
RosyXkid said: There my second incest couple unless they are not related at all.
Other than that it is Haru x Sora from Yosuga no sora
I ship them a lot she is pretty but she could stop saying onisama?! Gosh ( it is annoying)
Yeah, that onii-sama pisses me too, Ayase's onii-san sounded better (the same voice actress). Haru x Sora and Kyousuke x Kirino my fav and Tatsuya x Miyuki will be next.
Believe me you'll be sorry. That's okay with me, this is the only way they can be together forever and get married anyway (or if they're at least cousins). It would be rather a bad news for anti-incest part of Mahouka fanbase. If Miyuki and Tatsuya are step-siblings they may even have sex on-screen and anti-incest ppl will be still grossed out, watch Kiss x Sis and enjoy. In any case, if author decides to make Tatsuya x Miyuki ending and won't make them not-blood related it'll be only OreImo-alike ending possible, if they won't make Mahouka R-18.
I actually think they might not be blood related siblings. Rewinding back to the first episode Tatsuya tells Erika and Mizuki that they were born on different months yet they are in the same year. 0.0 Maybe this was just a cover up in order to hide their identities but I'm going with that they aren't blood related.
I have not read the LN or manga so don't hate and murder me while painfully wait for the next season.
asdfghjkl99 said: I actually think they might not be blood related siblings. Rewinding back to the first episode Tatsuya tells Erika and Mizuki that they were born on different months yet they are in the same year. 0.0
I haven't read the LN too, but you can open baka-tsuki and read episode you want to clarify. In the LN he said "I have often been asked that but we are not twins. I was born in April while she was born in March. If I were born one month earlier or she were born one month later, then we wouldn't be in the same school year" and there is translators note to that "School Years: Tatsuya is essentially eleven months older than Miyuki. With the exception of universities, all public school years in Japan are trimester-based and start in April and end in March the following year."
orig55 said: We'll probably get a plot twist: Iam sure it would be Erika who'd Tatsuya ending up~
Here is why:>
1.)Tatsuya cant love anyone other than his sister; which he doesnt see as a romantic partner;~
2.) Tatsuya only considers Leo, Miki, Mizuki and Erika as his friends. meaning they are Tatasuya's closest love/like relationship~:
3.) Basically Erika is already Tatsuya's "Girl" "Friend" lol =)
4.) Tatsuya X Erika has already shown special concern about each other; only difference is their feelings are what they are afraid/clinging to.
Erika doesnt want romantic relationship because it might destroy the "best time of her life". She feels satisfied just being with Tatsuya.
Tatsuya cant have romantic relationship with anyone because he lacks the "emotion". He feels satisfied just having sisterly love~
What they need to be an OTP is that they need to go out of their comfort zone and learn a thing about love ;P
A "K" "I" "S" "S" would do the trick;~
PS: ERIKA RAVU <3
Erika will end up with LeO, It's as clear as day =))
I would rage-quit if Erika doesn't end up with Leo, so please no.
As for Tatsuya, I like him with Shizuku the most. Then Honoka.
Do the people who ship Tatsuya and Mayumi not realize that they are cousin? I mean that is just as incestuous as Tatsuya and Miyuki relationship. Then when they see this they would say that miyuki idolizes Tatsuya too much and it's annoying. Though I would idolizes my older brother too if he was badass. I mean the only reason why Miyuki idolizes Tatsuya was because everyone doubt his potential. She is happy to see him getting the attention and praises she knows he deserve. They both lost their memories of each other when they were young. And once they meet again its basically like meeting a stranger. I never judge Miyuki for acting that way because everyone is naturally conscious of someone who they barely know. She thought Tatsuya hated her that is why she acted harshly to him before. But when she realizes the truth she idolizes him to make up for all of the times she was cruel to him. Miyuki truly believes Tatsuya can be someone important. That is why she tries to do her best to become someone worthy in order to bring him into the light with her.
Cindy_Nguyen said: Do the people who ship Tatsuya and Mayumi not realize that they are cousin? I mean that is just as incestuous as Tatsuya and Miyuki relationship. Then when they see this they would say that miyuki idolizes Tatsuya too much and it's annoying. Though I would idolizes my older brother too if ss. I mean the only reason why Miyuki idolizes Tatsuya was because everyone doubt his potential. She is happy to see him getting the attention and praises she knows he deserve. They both lost their memories of each other when they were young. And once they meet again its basically like meeting a stranger. I never judge Miyuki for acting that way because everyone is naturally conscious of someone who they barely know. She thought Tatsuya hated her that is why she acted harshly to him before. But when she realizes the truth she idolizes him to make up for all of the times she was cruel to him. Miyuki truly believes Tatsuya can be someone important. That is why she tries to do her best to become someone worthy in order to bring him into the light with her.
one of the best comments supporting tatsuyaXmiyuki I've read. Tho does have a bit of a spoiler for those who haven't read the light novel yet xp. Good stuff tho.
Interesting to see the almost even split in the polls too between otp and nope. Personally I'm for otp only if they're not directly blood related siblings like some people are speculating. Since Japan doesn't have sanctions against cousins marrying like others have pointed out, i feel the author may likely use this to ship Tatsuya and Miyuki if it comes down to it. Or maybe they're distant relatives or not related at all. I didn't read the light novel yet but i think this seems to be a plausible direction for the series. It would be a copout to the incest-supporting fanbase, but personally I really appreciate the interactions and overall relationship between Tatsuya and Miyuki and honestly prefer such a resolution over them being directly blood-related siblings.
It would be criminal to break apart Tatsuya and Miyuki after all of what the series has set up, and the events of Volume 16 of the Light Novel.
As of Light Novel 16, Tatsuya and Miyuki are now getting married because of the current head of their family, their aunt Maya.
Plot-Twist: They are infact only half-siblings, as Maya is actually Tatsuya's biological mother. While Miya, her twin, is Miyuki's mother.
It also turns out Miyuki has been excessively modified genetically and engineered from birth so that she can be married to Tatsuya without any problems. So excessively modified that, genetically, they are even less blood related than cousins. Of which marrying your cousin is still legal in most parts of the world anyways.
They even go so far as to officially change their social status to engaged cousins. The author is working hard so that the series long "Will they or won't they" of Tatsuya and Miyuki can be realized in a successful "Yes they will".
Miyuki was built up into extreme anxiety prior to the announcement with suggestive hints. She then burst into tears of joy upon hearing that she would be married to her brother, since it saved her the anguish of having someone other than him be close to her. Since she hates every male BUT him who could even vaguely try and get close to her.
Miyuki, trying to confirm that they were getting married, breaks down into tears suspecting Tatsuya hates and is disgusting with her. Tatsuya says that he would never hate her, and she is not disgusting for her brother-complex. He's a sister-complex after all, but he drowns himself in logic and reasoning to cover this up. And proclaims that at the moment he only loves her sibling-wise, but will do his best to try and love her as a woman(not very hard considering he already finds her to be sexually appealing in a non-sibling way). Then confirms they will get married.
The only people who have a problem with this is the fathers of Misaka(?) and Mayumi:
-The problem being that it's only Misaka's father's wishes to to break up Tatsuya/Miyuki after forcing Misaka to confess that he has at least some feelings for Miyuki. Misaka however has no real intention to break them apart. That and Miyuki is disgusted by him and despises any and all males other than her brother, so it's... impossible on this side.
-Mayumi, as stated previously, is also being forced by her father to try and break up Tatsuya/Miyuki so that she can be married off to Tatsuya. The problem with this being that Mayumi actually has quite literally ZERO intentions to break them apart, and it's her father trying to force them together for his own beliefs. The other issue is that her feelings for Tatsuya are minimal at best and her father forced her to confess even the most minor feelings so that he could use his daughter to break up the marriage. As well as Tatsuya being incapable of feeling emotions for anyone other than Miyuki, so it's quite literally impossible here as well.
There is effectively no way for them to be broken apart with everything that's been set up:
-Intense mutual love, with Tatsuya promising to transist over to proper love instead of sibling-based love. While Miyuki has an unbreakable brother-complex.
-The only people they really care for is eachother. Miyuki is offended by the mere notion of anyone but Tatsuya being remotely close to her, while Tatsuya cant even feel emotion towards/about anyone other than Miyuki.
-Genetically compatible as of Volume16 because of plot-twists and genetic engineering.
-They were destined for it since Miyuki's conceptualization.
-Virtually every single person in the series sees them as close lovers.
-They are engaged. *Puts on Deal with it Glasses*
-Officially sanctioned and supported by most everyone, including the government and official orginizations.
-The only minor problem is the fathers of two rebellious/spiteful families wanting to marry their own children off to the ones already getting married, for their own gains and personal reasons at that. While using their own childrens minor and undeveloped feelings for the engaged couple as an excuse to try and break them apart.
Upcoming(at this time) Volume:
The next Volume seems to be about valentines day approaching and Misaka and Mayumi are being forced by their fathers into trying to break apart Tatsuya/Miyuki. It heavily jokes this topic in the preview.
I suspect the next volume is probably going to be their parents forcing Misaka and Mayumi into awkward situations on valentines day to try and break up Tatsuya/Miyuki, but instead Misaka and Mayumi will end up starting "feelings" towards eachother.
With all that's happened, it's probably just going to start tying-up loose ends with alternate suggested love interests so that the author can fully realize Miyuki X Tatsuya without "shippers" calling him out for leaving their personal choice in the "red".
It would be offensive to break up Tatsuya and Miyuki after setting it up for the entire series, finding ways for it to work out like the author did, and having both of them legitimately happy about it. Especially since it would only be because the father of a minor character was potentially spiteful towards Tatsuya, and the father of a different character was forcing his daughter onto Tatsuya for his own personal ideals.
I despise series that start with an idea(more than sibling love in this case), work with it throughout the entirety of the series to make it happen, then suddenly drop it at the apex when the resolution has been found and everything is going to work. The only series I think could get away with this is "Guilty Crown", because it was an "ultimate sacrifice" bitter ending. In this case it's going to just be people falling dramatically out of their established character, which is offensive in any form of media.
I digress, but it's mostly in Spoilers... So I suppose it's fine.
Cindy_Nguyen said: Do the people who ship Tatsuya and Mayumi not realize that they are cousin? I mean that is just as incestuous as Tatsuya and Miyuki relationship. Then when they see this they would say that miyuki idolizes Tatsuya too much and it's annoying. Though I would idolizes my older brother too if ss. I mean the only reason why Miyuki idolizes Tatsuya was because everyone doubt his potential. She is happy to see him getting the attention and praises she knows he deserve. They both lost their memories of each other when they were young. And once they meet again its basically like meeting a stranger. I never judge Miyuki for acting that way because everyone is naturally conscious of someone who they barely know. She thought Tatsuya hated her that is why she acted harshly to him before. But when she realizes the truth she idolizes him to make up for all of the times she was cruel to him. Miyuki truly believes Tatsuya can be someone important. That is why she tries to do her best to become someone worthy in order to bring him into the light with her.
one of the best comments supporting tatsuyaXmiyuki I've read. Tho does have a bit of a spoiler for those who haven't read the light novel yet xp. Good stuff tho.
Interesting to see the almost even split in the polls too between otp and nope. Personally I'm for otp only if they're not directly blood related siblings like some people are speculating. Since Japan doesn't have sanctions against cousins marrying like others have pointed out, i feel the author may likely use this to ship Tatsuya and Miyuki if it comes down to it. Or maybe they're distant relatives or not related at all. I didn't read the light novel yet but i think this seems to be a plausible direction for the series. It would be a copout to the incest-supporting fanbase, but personally I really appreciate the interactions and overall relationship between Tatsuya and Miyuki and honestly prefer such a resolution over them being directly blood-related siblings.
Their mothers are bioligically different, but their father is the same technically. They are somewhere between half-siblings and cousins officially. We still have no confirmation if Miyuki was made using the "egg" of a completely different female than her "mother" at that, since Maya's "egg" was used for Tatsuya.
Through intense genetic engineering, Miyuki is also at the closest a cousin to Tatsuya genetically and has been proclaimed as capable of having flawless children with him. All of this greatly excites Miyuki, as she hates the mere idea of males other than Tatsuya being remotely close to her. She also hates any females being near Tatsuya, which he always shuts them down as it is.
I am someone who starts watching a series and immediately picks up on the general background theme. If the series rolls with a background theme it starts with, than it better deliver at the end. As soon as incestuous relationship was suggested, escalating and establishing it's seriousness throughout, and then now it's arrived at its destination... It has a duty to deliver. And it's doing it reasonably well while tying-up loose ends and making it viable.
Most reviews about this anime don't even insult the incest anyways, they just say it's bad because the MC's are overpowered, despite that being the entire point of the series. Derp. Don't watch it then.
Tatsuya and Miyuki have same father and mother ( Tasurou's sperm, Miya's womb and egg) However Miyuki's body has been genetically altered , to ensure she would not give birth any disfigured or one eyed baby as result of inbred (sounds funny). Technically they are still siblings. Incest is perceived as morally wrong and is frowned upon in Mahoukaverse, Which is why Maya had to cover up the truth, by lying to 10 MCs that Tatsuya is her son.
So far, Miyuki is the one who has sexual feelings for her bro while Tasuya only has sibling love for her, it is different with romantic love, he has not progressed towards it since her love confession. The engagement is Maya scheme to bound Tatsuya to Yotsuba clan , those scums feared Tatsuya would betray them after they treated him like trash for many years, Miyuki became the tool of Maya to control him, since it's his sister's wish so he is reluctantly going along with it .
It's implied that Mayum has strong romantic feelings for Tatsuya as Mari pointed out in vol 14 and vol 17, only because she is currently in denial mode. Her father quite being forced her with Tatsuya, but he knows Mayumi has feelings for Tatsuya after he saw her blush when he suggested the idea of marrying her with Tatsuya, so it's not like she is totally disagreeing with that, Tatsuya also admits he finds Mayumi sexually attractive .
Mayumi is the first girl whom he meets in the beginning if you dont count Miyuki. She's also the one who shares most romantic teasing scenes with him compare to all other girls. She is the only known character besides Sakurai to ever treat him so well on first contact without even knowing or caring if he had any magical skill at all. Her interest is far more pure and genuine than even Miyuki's. Miyuki had a change of heart but it does not change the fact that for the first several years she treated him as badly and heartlessly, i dont blame her because she was taught that way by her mom and aunt.
One thing, Mayumi is still not confess her love for him, while Miyuki was confessed already. I know this proved nothing, but in typical romance works ( lol of course this series is not that genre) the girl who last confessed is usually the winner.
In vol 17 he said with Fujibayashi it's impossible for him to sees Miyuki more than a sister, and Fujibayashi feels bad for him. He didn't disagree with Mari that his engagement is forced by Maya, the guy stated himself several times in LN he doesn't like being controlled by other people. With all things i have pointed out, one might suspect the engagement a.k.a Maya's scheme will not end well. Remember Koichi and Maya are also engaged with each other in the past, we all know how it turned out.
darkreaperix said: a bit of a major spoiler from ln
Tatsuya doesn't feel love except for his sisterly love for Miyuki,how the hell would there be an end girl aside from Miyuki??He already rejected Honoka for this reason
LOL
You said it yourself it's brotherly love. Not love for a woman.
The logical answer would be to say that he will stay single. Miyuki will never get what she wants.
latest LN spoiler
Tatsuya and Miyuki got engaged
Tatsuya is Miyuki's cousin (still not 100% confirmed, cause there's a possibility that's a lie)
for now Tatsuya loves Miyuki as sister but he promises to try to love her as woman
Tatsuya and Miyuki got engaged
Tatsuya is Miyuki's cousin (still not 100% confirmed, cause there's a possibility that's a lie)
for now Tatsuya loves Miyuki as sister but he promises to try to love her as woman
Tatsuya and Miyuki got engaged
Tatsuya is Miyuki's cousin (still not 100% confirmed, cause there's a possibility that's a lie)
for now Tatsuya loves Miyuki as sister but he promises to try to love her as woman
Is that the ending?
not yet, still on going.
cause there are so many objections for that arrangement, many think Yotsuba Clan only want to make their breed exclusive to themselves (to keep their 'super power' magic for themselves)
-Mahesvara said: The only way Tatsuya can end up with anyone is if his strong emotions comeback, otherwise its impossible for him to romantically love someone.
And that would suck because he would no longer be a pleb rekting god .
KaiserNazrin said: As long as Miyuki is his sister, its not gonna happen. Maybe if Miyuki died and reincarnated as another person that is not blood related to Tatsuya. o3o
I like Tatsuya X Mayumi hundreds times more.
Umm. They aren't related though. Also, the author has, for some reason, wanted Mayumi to be with the other senior guy who is really big and musclely and has a great personality too. I think she will end up with him even though she denies having any interest in him, just like she denies being interested in Tatsuya.
darkreaperix said: a bit of a major spoiler from ln
Tatsuya doesn't feel love except for his sisterly love for Miyuki,how the hell would there be an end girl aside from Miyuki??He already rejected Honoka for this reason
LOL
You said it yourself it's brotherly love. Not love for a woman.
The logical answer would be to say that he will stay single. Miyuki will never get what she wants.
He has promised Miyuki that he will learn to love her in the way that will make her happy. Also, I guess all other girls and guys in this manga will only help Tatsuya realize his love for Miyuki in the end. After all I think it's pretty unfair for Miyuki if Tatsuya ends up with some other girl because she was literally genetically engineered for him. What meaning will her life have after that? She'll be a wreck and we all know what Tatsuya will do if he sees Miyuki hurt.
RosyXkid said: There my second incest couple unless they are not related at all.
Other than that it is Haru x Sora from Yosuga no sora
I ship them a lot she is pretty but she could stop saying onisama?! Gosh ( it is annoying)
Haha. IKR? The entire manga, if summarized in one word, would be "Oni-sama" .
Umm. They aren't related though. Also, the author has, for some reason, wanted Mayumi to be with the other senior guy who is really big and musclely and has a great personality too. I think she will end up with him even though she denies having any interest in him, just like she denies being interested in Tatsuya.
They are genetically different only because the Yotsuba messed up with her gene. It simply did not change the fact that Tatsuya and Miyuki have the same mother and father, so they are still biological siblings. I guess the muscular guy you talked about was Jumonjii ? The author never said anything about that he wanted Mayumi to be with anyone. But there are "flags" between her and Tatsuya in recent volumes, meanwhile there is zero moment between Mayumi and the guy you mentioned. Jumonjii might even ship Mayumi with Tatsuya, especially when he suggested Tatsuya to escort her back to Saegusa house. Miyuki gets jealous when she learned about that.
Well, honestly i ship mayumixtatsuya for very many fucking reasons and i also dont like the miyukixtatsuya as miyuki haves her bitch mode activated when other girls get near him and also if you want INCEST GO WATCH SOME HENTAIS :) (or yosuga no sora or aki sora) as most of the incest can be found on hentais
masaki x miyuki is impossible because miyuki already broke masaki heart by telling that he have no every interest on him. and tatsuya x mayami is impossible as you can see its always been said in the anime and manga and LN that he can only love his sister and no one else and read the ln that miyuki created for tatsuya and miyuki herself devoted herself to tatsuya, as you can see its already said that only miyuki can make tatsuya rage by dying therefore tatsuya and miyuki cant be replace miyukixmasaki and mayumixtatsuya its impossible 100% its already said that its starting to have feelings I think when he feel sad when miyuki confess to him and when miyuki give him a chocolate at valentines I think he feel strange and that is love that he never feel before just a guess he can only develop love interest to miyuki only miyuki the only one he care and love. I think it will be romeo and Juliet lol.
tatsuya will die, using improve regrowth to revive dead but exchange for his life. miyuki will die and tatsuya will revive her exchanging his life using improve regrowth. so tatsuyaxmayumu tatsuyaxhonoka tatsuyaxeric is </3 hahahaha. goodbye thankyou