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Aug 2, 2009 12:53 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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It goes on surprisingly rapidly, Saki is striking back! But the preview lets guess next episode is again some relationship and past stories to make some time.

Kan, Kan, Kan... does anyone know the probability for such hands? Feels like 10^-23 or even lower.
Poor Kana, lost her 9 Dora to a crap hand and her nearly Kokusi to another crappy one.
Aug 2, 2009 1:54 PM
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damn, it's like the dragonball Z of mahjong! good for her at the end but damn WHY MUST IT TAKE SO LONG? it even had yelling lol.
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Aug 2, 2009 2:34 PM
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o god.... 3 kongs in a row eh?
dam next episode there be more info on Koromo i bet
Aug 2, 2009 5:50 PM
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The episode ended too fast me wants moaar D:
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Aug 2, 2009 6:14 PM
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kong
kong
kong
tsumo after kong
and some how that turns to be a baiman = 24,000 pts when they were oly 2000
for what i could understand
..so the secret for wining was to take her shoes off o.O SAKI SUGOI XD
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Aug 2, 2009 6:15 PM
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bubbleboy352 said:
damn, it's like the dragonball Z of mahjong! good for her at the end but damn WHY MUST IT TAKE SO LONG? it even had yelling lol.


LoL!

Over 9000 points!
Aug 2, 2009 6:18 PM
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sukari said:
bubbleboy352 said:
damn, it's like the dragonball Z of mahjong! good for her at the end but damn WHY MUST IT TAKE SO LONG? it even had yelling lol.


LoL!

Over 9000 points!

But instead of yellow auras and crap they have lightnings and some sort of steam :)


Edit: didnt get to see the preview till now. I'm kinda feeling that those previews they showed there got some massive spoilers
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Aug 2, 2009 7:36 PM
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i couldnt tell/remember who was 1st-4th in the game, but when they show the scoreboard, there was 1 person with +/- 0 (2nd place). was that saki or was she 3rd and not 2nd?
Aug 2, 2009 7:37 PM
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Zero_r2 said:
kong
kong
kong
tsumo after kong
and some how that turns to be a baiman = 24,000 pts when they were oly 2000
for what i could understand
..so the secret for wining was to take her shoes off o.O SAKI SUGOI XD


Well, if she had taken the tsumo after 2 kans, she'd get only 2 yaku from rinshan kaihou and tanyao. At 2 fan on a east tsumo, the highest point total she could have gotten was 2300 all with a 70 base point hand.

By declaring a third kong, in addition to the above tanyao and rinshan kaihou, she adds on toi toi, san ankou, and san kantsu, all of which are worth 2 yaku. So from the original 2 yaku, she adds on another 6 yaku, for a total of 8 yaku. Baiman is automatically 8000 from everyone.

Edit: Hrm. They might be referring to the tenpai she had when she discarded the 3 manzi.
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The match is good but it is so painful watching flashbacks when there is a match going on.
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God I loved Saki's big hand in the manga and I loved it here too. At the end of the episode, we are at chapter 49 out of 51 that are out now. It's hard to tell from the preview whether we'll finish the match or stall for a bit with background and such. I guess this is a good opportunity for Koromo to develop I guess.
Aug 2, 2009 9:44 PM

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all right saki! kicking ass and taking names!!! come back very soon, and then victory!
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Aug 2, 2009 10:11 PM

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paskyx said:
sukari said:
bubbleboy352 said:
damn, it's like the dragonball Z of mahjong! good for her at the end but damn WHY MUST IT TAKE SO LONG? it even had yelling lol.


LoL!

Over 9000 points!

But instead of yellow auras and crap they have lightnings and some sort of steam :)


Edit: didnt get to see the preview till now. I'm kinda feeling that those previews they showed there got some massive spoilers

No they still have auras and stuff. But they also have shiny lights coming out of tiles, especially when they're paired together.

Anyways Saki just told her motive for participation so easily, I think this violates a TV Trope of some sort. And also we're going to get another exposition episode about Koromo this time. But as long as They end the tournament soon then I'll be fine.
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Aug 2, 2009 11:09 PM

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For some reason I think Yuuki is Kugimiya rie's best role recently. I love the way she taunts the dude about her being in a swimsuit as if it's something to see. And then saying she's taking Nodoka's breasts.

Oh and i wish i understood mahjong more but if it were boxing, saki laid out a nice combo of jabs and a power punch at the end. Still has the knockout left next episode.
Aug 3, 2009 3:07 AM

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godly xD hahas~ so extreme


Aug 3, 2009 3:15 AM

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Yey, finally Saki is back ! :------------D
I really enjoyed this episode, looking for to the next one !


Aug 3, 2009 3:45 AM

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Way to go Saki!
Loved this episode so much!

Looks like a beach episode will really happen as I've predicted from the 2nd ED and from what Yuuki said in this episode.

Uhm... Lights out? (from the preview) I wonder what will happen.

I am highly anticipating what will happen in the next episode.

So I'm guessing again that there isn't enough time for the nationals. It just won't fit at all. And the nationals is about big bang mahjong battles so they can't just make it short compared to the prefecture tournaments. Hello second season indeed! XDDD
Aug 3, 2009 4:00 AM
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So I'm guessing again that there isn't enough time for the nationals. It just won't fit at all. And the nationals is about big bang mahjong battles so they can't just make it short compared to the prefecture tournaments. Hello second season indeed! XDDD

There won't be nationals, definitely, since the manga is only slightly ahead of the Anime. So we need to wait a year or two for a possible second season.

But the nationals need to be even more extreme than the prefecturals, this will be difficult.
Aug 3, 2009 5:30 AM

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dam that stinks, KANNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Oh the horror of monsters

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Aug 3, 2009 9:49 AM

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I wanna go to karaoke.
Aug 3, 2009 11:03 AM

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why the lame flashbacks? it really is like DBZ. hahaha.
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That is what they called "Ultimate Kan Work"


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Aug 4, 2009 2:18 AM
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Warning, spoilers.

i haf a maths calculation over here. right b4 the match where saki's rinshan kaiho (tan yao, doi doi, san-an-ko, san-kan-tsu), at abt 18:06, the screen shows:

kiyosumi: 87800
ryumonbuchi: 163900

after the match, kiyosumi adds 24000 pts, & ryumonbuchi minus 8000 pts. so the new points should be:

kiyosumi: 87800+24000 = 111800
ryumonbuchi: 163900-8000 = 155900
difference: 155900-111800 = 44100

however, at abt 21:26, mako said the difference between kiyosumi & ryumonbuchi has become 45100. so did she count wrongly?

Aug 4, 2009 6:23 AM
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Saki's socks were holding back her power.
Aug 4, 2009 10:59 AM

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tehnominator said:
Saki's socks were holding back her power.


Those dreaded socks. How evil. I've loved these past episodes and they have boosted my score for Saki a lot.
Aug 4, 2009 7:02 PM

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I love the metaphor in the show and how much it is epic.

A seed is something trivial until it blossom as a beautifull flower, making her hand 'blossom' is Saki's styleplay.

Saki really did say something unnecessary, now Koromo will be mad and give Saki a hard time. I don't know if Saki will win, I hope so but since this game is not even over in the manga we can't know for sure.

I want moar saki now, it's been age since I wanted an episode that badly, overall saki is not that great but I enjoy it so much.
Aug 4, 2009 11:54 PM

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Ah Koromo just wake up and finish them off xD
Aug 5, 2009 9:08 AM

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32000!!! oh my god thats a heavy score. yeah yuri save the world xD


Aug 5, 2009 9:42 AM
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however, at abt 21:26, mako said the difference between kiyosumi & ryumonbuchi has become 45100. so did she count wrongly?

I looked it up in the manga, your scores are correct.. Mako actually never said that in the Manga (very rare anime original part lol)
Aug 5, 2009 4:10 PM

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Well yeah there is some parts they have been added in the anime, well I looking forward for the next episode.
I'm sure you right about the national, but I'm sure the Saki will take the comeback and win the match. xD

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Aug 5, 2009 6:25 PM

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Who knows, they may lose there but get a chance to go to the national nonetheless

Anyway I wish that at the end Koromo score = Saki score so that they have a last hand, it would be epic X).

Unlimited kan works ftw.
Aug 5, 2009 7:02 PM
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I've not really been too "into" this series because of the overly dramatic Mahjong... but I have to give it to them for being able to make a series this long and not feel like it has dragged on anywhere in the process.

Anyway, damn those socks holding Saki back.
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HoaRy said:
I looked it up in the manga, your scores are correct.. Mako actually never said that in the Manga (very rare anime original part lol)


this series is great but quite a number of human errors spotted. previous in ep 16 too. these mistakes could be prevented if they haf did a more thorough QC.

Aug 6, 2009 10:32 AM

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Holy shit those rinshan kaihou. I played like 200 mahjong matches, attempted a few and couldn't even get one...

Overall decent episode. Next one seems to be slowing down again. I wonder if they have enough time for the nationals. I think the nationals will show up on season 2.
Aug 6, 2009 10:35 AM

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Holy shit those rinshan kaihou. I played like 200 mahjong matches, attempted a few and couldn't even get one...

Overall decent episode. Next one seems to be slowing down again. I wonder if they have enough time for the nationals. I think the nationals will show up on season 2.


Yeah I expect a second season with the national but it either won't be before a while (since they already covered the manga material or almost done doing it) or it will be original material, which I wouldn't mind if it is good.
Aug 6, 2009 12:27 PM

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Really hated this episode since they used the shitty ED. ° 3 °
Aug 6, 2009 12:51 PM

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Really hated this episode since they used the shitty ED. ° 3 °


What, this is the best ED saki have imo xD.
Aug 6, 2009 1:41 PM

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Man the luck of all these girls is just ridiculous.
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Wasabi said:
Man the luck of all these girls is just ridiculous.


I tough it was clear right from the first episode XD.
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maxime1007 said:
De-JaY said:
Really hated this episode since they used the shitty ED. ° 3 °


What, this is the best ED saki have imo xD.


I love this ED too.

Also, I have a foot fetish. hehehehe
Aug 6, 2009 3:12 PM
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BTW, clarification on the 2,000 -> 24,000 point shtick.

First, refer to this: http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b174/imreallysobored/Untitled-1.jpg (didn't make this but it's awesome)

Second, here's the explanation:

As for the 2000, at the point where Saki calls a pon on the 6 pin, if she had discarded an 8 pin, she would have been in tenpai, with a hand that has pon of 6 pin, pon of 3 sou, 234 sou, pon of 8 pin, 3 manzi, waiting on another 3 manzi to finish the pair. Hence, Hajime is shocked when Saki discards the 3 manzi because she had been assuming that Saki was just trying to win a hand asap so as to get into a bonus round where maybe she'll get a "better" hand.

At that point in time, she'd only have 1 han from tanyao and base point of 40. Assuming she won on a discard, she'd only get 2000 points.

Even after she discards the 3 manzi, Saki's hand is in iishanten (2 away from a win, 1 away from tenpai) and is essentially in the same position as before she discarded the 3 manzi, just her pair that she's waiting for will be whatever she would have gotten from the dead wall after she calls a kong of 8 pin. She still only has tanyao and thus, a 2000 point hand.

In contrast, when she finishes, she adds to the tanyao above (1 yaku) with rinshan kaihou (1 yaku), toi toi (2 yaku), san ankou (2 yaku), and san kantsu (2 yaku) for a total of 8 fan and 24,000 points.

Thus, the announcer is amazed that she changed her 2000 point hand into a 24,000 point hand.
Aug 6, 2009 3:22 PM
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Didn't write this explanation so not going to copy paste it.

Here's a link to 4tran's explanation of how Kana changed her hand from 1,100 to 32,000 points.

Link: http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=2562247#post2562247
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waah. i was intrigued when amae said: 'family'

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Awesome ep; Saki strikes back.
Electric tiles are cool. ;D
Aug 7, 2009 10:38 PM

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I personally found that (action-wise) this was probably my favorite episode, considering that Saki and Kana-chan are my two favorite characters, I loved the fact that they got a lot of points considering in episode 17 they got destroyed by The Koromo :)
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maxime1007 said:
De-JaY said:
Really hated this episode since they used the shitty ED. ° 3 °


What, this is the best ED saki have imo xD.

Best ed is wai wai ed :D

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This episode is more awesome that previous episode because that match is too breathtaking for me to watch it. Saki’s socks were holding back her power as that’s why she is not serious before taking her socks off. So yeah, Saki is back!
Aug 22, 2009 3:12 AM

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Pretty crazy episode, didn't think that the thing Saki was missing was the fact that she had to play without shoes or socks @_@ Although she's going all out now.
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Go Saki you can do it! Really great episode :3
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Moar ~ Yuri desu ~ !! She leveled up !! .. evolution nyaa ~ !!
Flashbacks really helps you a lot if you're in a pinch of losing .. play with full strength !!
Unnatural or out-of-the-world style of playing is certainly a magnificent scenario for me !!
Kiyosumi bears it's fangs !! A ground-breaking, series of tiles exhibition for a stunning upturn !!
Pretty GREAT Episode !!! That was so remarkable .
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