Moniisek said: granted their is a better selection for men there is also shoujo and josei, also their are characters like hisoka and generally a topless man in anime isn't to hard to find, im watchin jojo right now and its pretty revealing at times lolhakuyu said: The plot for Free! was the strongest point of the show other than it's eye candy. Grouping all yaoi together is like saying every romance anime is shit. And Binan Koukou's third episode was the strongest so far out of all of them. Then again, it's mostly comedy and not really fanservice at all. I feel like it toned the fanservice down so it would have male viewers too. I said usually, not always. well, never mind, looks like we have different tastes anyway |
hakuyu said: No, my point is that you can't judge that kind of genre because that's like grouping all romance anime in one genre when there's a lot of different kinds like Clannad to Maison Ikkoku to Toradora to SAO to Honey and Clover to Nodame Cantabile to Nana. why are you talking about romance? you said "grouping all yaoi together is like..." to which I replied that I said usually not always... meaning I wasn't grouping ALL yaoi together. I never talked about romance, romance is not fanservice, at least for me. |
Moniisek said: hakuyu said: No, my point is that you can't judge that kind of genre because that's like grouping all romance anime in one genre when there's a lot of different kinds like Clannad to Maison Ikkoku to Toradora to SAO to Honey and Clover to Nodame Cantabile to Nana. why are you talking about romance? you said "grouping all yaoi together is like..." to which I replied that I said usually not always... meaning I wasn't grouping ALL yaoi together. I never talked about romance, romance is not fanservice, at least for me. Like I said, yaoi/yuri isn't all fanservice and smut. And romance anime do have some that I would count as fanservice. It's the same thing. Killaclown said: granted their is a better selection for men there is also shoujo and josei, also their are characters like hisoka and generally a topless man in anime isn't to hard to find, im watchin jojo right now and its pretty revealing at times lol[/quote]well, never mind, looks like we have different tastes anyway Not sure if females would find that appealing, though. My sister who also watches anime likes those shows but not for the guys. :/ |
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| I simply don't watch ecchi series. they don't interest me, if I was going to complain id rather complain about the number of anime that feel the need to be ecchi - and more so than that, the people who want nothing but ecchi. Ecchi normally doesn't even come with a plot, so whats the point of even watching it. Maybe people find it funny, I can accept that, but if its just for the boobs, just go watch porn - its way more efficient. |
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hakuyu said: Like I said, yaoi/yuri isn't all fanservice and smut. Yes, that's what I've originally said too. |
Moniisek said: or other sports anime especially the box onesI like ecchi but it could use more of a gender equality. I mean, pretty boobies are to be found in every genre but if I want to see some topless men my choices are usually limited to a) free or b) yaoi and I don't like either. |
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Moniisek said: hakuyu said: Like I said, yaoi/yuri isn't all fanservice and smut. Yes, that's what I've originally said too. You didn't. If you're not gonna try the genre out, you might as well not say anything about it because it comes off as heavy generalizing at this point. romagia said: Moniisek said: or other sports anime especially the box onesI like ecchi but it could use more of a gender equality. I mean, pretty boobies are to be found in every genre but if I want to see some topless men my choices are usually limited to a) free or b) yaoi and I don't like either. Sports anime have barely any manservice for female fans, though. And Hajime no Ippo's art style is not that appealing to them either. |
| [right] "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." |
hakuyu said: just an example (literally last anime I watched) rule of anime once you lose the shirt you become stronger ;pNot sure if females would find that appealing, though. My sister who also watches anime likes those shows but not for the guys. :/ also guys getting down to their underwear or taking baths is common az hell, just before joj I was watching ace of diamond, was a bath scene in there edit: right after your sports comment great timing lol |
ninjastarforcex said: can you recomend me good yuri anime? Aoi Hana, Utena, Sasameki Koto You should ask Silversongwriter, not me. He watches all of them. Let's not derail, guys. |
| [right] "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." |
hakuyu said: okninjastarforcex said: can you recomend me good yuri anime? Aoi Hana, Utena, Sasameki Koto You should ask Silversongwriter, not me. He watches all of them. but i definitely wont watch overrated shit ikuhara anime |
ninjastarforcex said: hakuyu said: okAoi Hana, Utena, Sasameki Koto You should ask Silversongwriter, not me. He watches all of them. but i definitely wont watch overrated shit ikuhara anime Up to you. :) Did you make a mistake and watch Lesbian Bears without any prior knowledge to Ikuhara or something? |
| [right] "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." |
| I'm watching Lesbian Bears and I've already watched Mawaru/Utena as well as some other Ikuhara shows. Lesbian Bears is the worst one and can't be compared to his older works. So don't let that show make you hate Ikuhara. lol |
| [right] "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." |
| the real ecchi question is how censored is Prison school going to be, im afraid it will get the black balls of death treatment, though if the humor is still in ppl may still see and appreciate its brilliance |
Killaclown said: prison school's greatness is not for animethe real ecchi question is how censored is Prison school going to be, im afraid it will get the black balls of death treatment, though if the humor is still in ppl may still see and appreciate its brilliance |
ninjastarforcex said: I fear you might be correct, but anime is the best place to spread its glory.... if only it could be done properly (but hell even the speech bubbles are a part of the humor)Killaclown said: prison school's greatness is not for animethe real ecchi question is how censored is Prison school going to be, im afraid it will get the black balls of death treatment, though if the humor is still in ppl may still see and appreciate its brilliance |
| because that's not why I watch ecchi, if I wanted that id do the same. a lil "appeal" can be seen as a bonus when done right however |
Aeonic said: One, ecchi is made for adults.sourteeth said: I just watch porn instead, because ecchi only gives you panties shots and cleavage. I'm not a pubescent teenager. I don't understand why people just don't want porn to get off, instead of ecchi. It's a normal sensual pleasuring activity to stroke the bloke.....but wouldn't you rather see all of the parts of the feminine body rather than only a few sneak peaks.Why do people watch Ecchi anime's and complain that they are Ecchi? I've read so many reviews on MAL where people give so low scores and complain about why ecchi anime's contain boobs and such, it's like looking for slice of life in Action fantasies, or action in romance dramas, or sci-fi in historical anime. Two, they watch ecchi instead of porn because they don't want to get off. Three, this thread isn't about discussing if ecchi is good or not or if it should exist. It's about people watching it while complaining about it. Like watching porn and saying porn is disgusting. There's also that quote about leaving things to the imagination being better. And by porn do you mean real porn or hentai? |
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Aeonic said: for one you can see that as well (manga more often), but like i said if i was looking for just that i would do the same as you. the "hotness" of ecchi is just a bonus for shows that i would love without it, there are plenty of hilarious ecchi shows.... go read prison school and be enlightened my sonKillaclown said: So you prefer crevices over valleys? I like actually seeing the nipples and not merely a side boob.because that's not why I watch ecchi, if I wanted that id do the same. a lil "appeal" can be seen as a bonus when done right however or if anime only is your thing i would suggest Desert punk or air gear but i hear Highschool DxD is good to |
IntroverTurtle said: all good pointsAeonic said: One, ecchi is made for adults.I just watch porn instead, because ecchi only gives you panties shots and cleavage. I'm not a pubescent teenager. I don't understand why people just don't want porn to get off, instead of ecchi. It's a normal sensual pleasuring activity to stroke the bloke.....but wouldn't you rather see all of the parts of the feminine body rather than only a few sneak peaks. Two, they watch ecchi instead of porn because they don't want to get off. Three, this thread isn't about discussing if ecchi is good or not or if it should exist. It's about people watching it while complaining about it. Like watching porn and saying porn is disgusting. There's also that quote about leaving things to the imagination being better. And by porn do you mean real porn or hentai? |
| characters yes, plot eh somewhat occasionaly, and definitely my main reason is humor |
| I have no idea. I agree that it doesn't make sense. I'm a girl and I watch Ecchi sometimes. I like HS DxD. |
PoeticJustice said: nigga i am black, do you think my ass would fit in? "Oh look it is negro kun." Hell no. |
Aeonic said: I wouldn't say a lot. Most are late night shows marketed towards otaku. Ecchi is not necessarily made for adults, a lot of ecchi shows are made for the shounen demographic. Two, what else is there to watch ecchi except for the fanservice......because people are watching ecchi shows for the plot and characters...sure. Porn isn't disgusting neither it's ecchi, it's simple a form of sexual expression. The only one believe that ecchi and porn are prudish social conservatives who think they're holier than thou. Both hentai and real porn. The art, the story, the characters, the comedy, etc. Just because you may not like them does not mean others can't watch it for them. People watch it for the combination of some ecchi and a story and comedy, etc. Porn focuses almost only on sex and who can watch that casually? Softcore stuff will always be popular. Way to miss my point. I said this thread is not about the ecchi genre and whether it's good or bad. It's about people watching it while complaining about it. Watching an action show while saying you hate action and the anime sucks because it's action, you can literally use it for any genre. Well hentai has lower quality animation and art, less story than an average ecchi, no comedy, it has long explicit sex scenes, etc. Regular porn doesn't have anime art style, doesn't have a story, comedy, characters, it has long explicit sex scenes. Bam. Reasons right there why someone may want to watch ecchi and not porn. People who watch ecchi are not looking to get off and masturbate, they simply want some sexy females while watching something light. Why do they put hot women in beer ads why not just porn where they're pouring beer on the girls? Little sex appeal works and has worked for a long time. |
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Aeonic said: well i like the characters i didnt say they were all that deep, point is im not watching it for T&A, just checked MALgrapgh and it is my lowest weighted score so yeah there are a lot of bad ones that use the ecchi tag as an excuse to suck and just shoe T&A but there are also some amazing ones that are among my favs easily (the 3 i always mention lol).Killaclown said: So there's character depth, catharsis, and development in a pure ecchi series? I would agree with the humour component, but lets face it you're not watching an ecchi series for anything substantive and there's nothing wrong with that.characters yes, plot eh somewhat occasionaly, and definitely my main reason is humor But yes i watch it for the comedy mostly and the enjoyable characters Edit: there is also fun action in Desert punk, tenjou tenge, needless and air gear |
KillaclownFeb 12, 2015 12:25 PM
| its always funny when you are arguing about ecchi they always decide why you are watching it no matter how many times you tell them otherwise |
| I have never watched a full on ecchi so so yeah, fuck that argument. |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| Lots of reviewers make the mistake of watching and reviewing content in a genre they don't like. |
TheRealNico said: yhunata said: So basically, they're sadists? Quite the opposite, they're masochists who use the sadist facade to act cool. Also wanna add that they have to use an obligatory LOGH avatar to "fit in" as well. Leave LOGH out of it, what has it ever done to you? That kind of prejudiced attitude is about as much about 'acting cool' as the people you described, just targeting a different audience. The anti-LOGH or anti-LOGH-fanbase circlejerk is really getting old these days. People use LOGH avatars because they liked the show or the character it depicts, just like any other user who uses any other anime avatar. But that brings me to another reason why people watch stuff they don't like: So they can circlejerk with similar-minded people about how bad it was. Circlejerks are a big motivation to have and preserve an opinion/attitude. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| They simply don't understand the beautiful concept of #plot |
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Lancehot said: more like I shouldn't go watch a yaoi and review it... probably should add some shoujo as it simply is not for me and would be biased az hell, even as far as opinions go.SolidusSmoke said: Lots of reviewers make the mistake of watching and reviewing content in a genre they don't like. Are you implying that you shouldn't share thoughts/opinions on something if you don't like it? |
TheRealNico said: Wow, take a joke. It's not like 9/10 times this kind of statement isn't meant seriously, so don't blame me. Everybody has an opinion on LOGH, but nobody has seen it, that gets on your nerves after a while. Alternatively just take it as: The joke is getting old, it was already lame in 2012, by now everybody just repeats the same phrases. Try to 'jokingly' stereotype another fanbase for a change, please. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Lancehot said: if your up front sure.... but ppl usually aren't, sometimes it actually works out better if you still liked it regardless of your bias against it, like this review about School prison from a person who hates ecchi (which explains y its a 9 instead of perfect 10 lol) Killaclown said: more like I shouldn't go watch a yaoi and review it... probably should add some shoujo as it simply is not for me and would be biased az hell, even as far as opinions go. As long as you were to be up front about those pre-existant biases, gaps in your knowledge etc, I see no harm in it. If the purpose of reviewing something is to inform others, it doesn't hurt to have the opinions of those who didn't like something shared alongside those who did. What matters is the person's reasoning (why they hold their opinion), not simply their opinion, surely? |
| I agree to a point. I find most ranting I read is about series that are trying to be something else, and just have the ecchi included as a "safe bet" of sorts. Pandering I guess is what I mean. |
Rich_Homie said: Well personally I watch Anime for the plot.  this /thread |
| MAL: A community that thinks every anime is bad, but rates everything a 7/10. |
| Ecchi does not bother me at all. What bothers me is when they use ecchi scenes in a serious situation like a fight or something like that it takes away the momentum |
| I don't even know why people hate ecchi so much. Sure, there're some bad ecchi shows out there but ignorant usually say "every" ecchi is terrible. It's like saying Mars of Destruction is bad so every sci-fi is bad. |
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| Just dont listen to peoples opinions. |
| I don't mind ecchi, but I don't search it either. That's why it sometimes bothers me, when it kind of disrupts some scene. About all animes have many genres listed and if you start avoiding all with the word ecchi in them, a field would subside a lot. That's why ecchi sometimes takes me a surprise, when I havent noticed it in the genre listing. But I'm not complaining. |
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Rich_Homie said: niceWell personally I watch Anime for the plot. |
Extreme3708 said: what? you don't like to see boobs jiggle in the mist of battle?Ecchi does not bother me at all. What bothers me is when they use ecchi scenes in a serious situation like a fight or something like that it takes away the momentum |
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